Other Middle East and Africa Frequent Flyer Programs - SA booking change - could they make it any more difficult?




Cheetah_SA
Mar 3, 09, 10:28 am
This morning around 10am I called SAA to change the date on an upcoming flight. It's a business class flexible fare with a fixed fee for changes so that should be simple, right?

Took 20 minutes to get through and when I explained what I wanted to do the agent tells me this must go through to fares dept. for pricing. I ask why she doesn't just charge what the fare rules say (which she agrees is ZAR750) but she says the taxes must be recalculated and only fares dept. can do that.

Apart from the fact that the fare rules say nothing about taxes I soon concede that I won't be able to fight it. But we then got into an interesting discussion when I asked if I will be refunded if taxes have gone down. The agent is adamant that I will not because the rules don't say that; but she can't explain why I will have to divvy in if taxes have gone up even though the rules are silent on that too. (I have since checked on a dummy booking - they have gone down.)

But this is the clincher: I have to call back later and if fares dept. have done their magic, reservations will take my cc details and do the change. There is no way they will call me - "we don't make outbound calls" - and although she sympathises with my long hold time "we have a high volume of calls".

I duly call back after 4pm as instructed. This time it takes 39 minutes to get through. And guess what? Fares has not done the pricing! The agent says I will have to call back again but she has no idea when would be a good time. (One piece of info I gleaned was that fares dept. only works from 8 to 4 so nothing will happen before tomorrow.) She regrets the long hold time but "we are experiencing a high volume of calls". :mad: She cannot call me back because the systems will not notify her when the pricing has been done. (Evidently she is not empowered to write down my PNR and phone number on a little slip of paper and check a couple of times a day. :rolleyes:)

I can't believe the pathetic inefficiency of this! :mad: Other airlines manage to allow me to make the change online within minutes. Or, if you do have to call, one agent does it in a matter of minutes. SAA sees fit to train staff so narrowly that a simple booking change gets bounced to 2 departments that communicate with each other by the electronic equivalent of a cleft stick. And the customer gets to spend hours queueing on the phone in the vain hopes that one of said departments will have done their job. When your hopes are frustrated you are told apologetically that there is nothing they can do.

OH, I sooooo wanted to scream at someone! But to make matters worse (perversely) the agents were unfailingly polite and obviously totally hamstrung by their work processes so I couldn't vent on anyone.

But do try to understand this, SAA: you are a financial basket case; you cannot afford to alienate paying customers. Oh, and SAA: you aren't experiencing a "high volume of calls" - you are experiencing a "low number of agents" who are stuck with the most abysmally designed customer interface processes ever inflicted on a paying public. :td:


capetonian
Mar 4, 09, 12:38 pm
Nothing new. There is a reason why in cases like this I always drive out to the airport and go to the international ticketing desk. Much less effort and hassles than phoning them.

Cheetah_SA
Mar 4, 09, 1:31 pm
Nothing new. There is a reason why in cases like this I always drive out to the airport and go to the international ticketing desk. Much less effort and hassles than phoning them.
Good advice! Though I seem to remember you are close to CPT? Not quite so convenient for me.

The sad saga continued today. Called at midday; fares have still not responded. But the agent decides that as this is a business class ticket and they are "not so difficult" she is going to "take control of the situation" and see how far she gets. Wow! This is new. She taps away and changes the booking then ponders whether she should finalise it or wait for fares to price it. I say I don't care either way as long as I don't have to call in and spend hours waiting for calls to be answered. She decides to finalise the booking and I give her updated cc information for the change fee.

Result! Or so I thought... I then call Voyager to change a companion booking linked to this ticket and they inform me that although the booking has been changed the ticket still reflects the original dates. (Is this further confirmation of something on I saw elsewhere that with e-tickets airlines do no longer revalidate for date changes, they re-issue?) I am told I must go back to reservations and tell them to change the ticket.

She "transfers" my call but that just means she saved me the trouble of pressing redial: I get right back to the opening voice dialog. :mad: After a long wait the agent I get has touble with his system which eventually freezes on him and he offers to put me through to another agent. This has precisely the same effect as the last "transfer" and when I heard that stupid voice welcoming me to SAA - AGAIN!! - I just hung up. :mad:

Later in the day when I had calmed down I decided to take the time-honoured FT advice of when you don't get the response you want, hang up and call again. So I called Voyager again. The agent gave a similar response but when I protested that I was out of options since I had done everything to change the primary ticket he put me on hold and then came back to say he would do the change. Which he duly did. (I tracked it on Checkmytrip and everything including the seat changes went through.) But then when I asked if he would charge the change fee (ZAR185) to the same card I paid the taxes with originally he said no, I would have to pay that at the airport. I protested that I would much rather do it now, but he said that isn't possible. Huh???

Ok, so now I'm worried. Ostensibly I have bookings that accurately reflect my travel plans. But one is apparently not synchronised with the ticket and the other has an outstanding fee to be paid.

capetonian, I hear you; I'll schlep to the airport in future!


Cheetah_SA
Mar 12, 09, 4:29 am
My e-mail complaint to SAA produced a nicely worded apology. ^ I honestly had not expected a response.

It did include this interesting information with reference to the strike: "we have been operating our call centres with skeleton staff with the more experienced staff not at work". So expect long waits and lousy service from the call centre at least until the strike is off. Or just follow capetonian's advice and go to the airport.

thijsseh
Mar 12, 09, 9:42 am
My e-mail complaint to SAA produced a nicely worded apology. ^ I honestly had not expected a response.

It did include this interesting information with reference to the strike: "we have been operating our call centres with skeleton staff with the more experienced staff not at work". So expect long waits and lousy service from the call centre at least until the strike is off. Or just follow capetonian's advice and go to the airport.

Go to the airport! I work fairly close to CPT, so for me its a no brainer.

Having said that, I booked a *A award through the call centre last week. Was fully expecting to have to go to the airport as per usual, but decided to give the 'phone a try whilst having a cup of coffee. After 12 minutes a very efficient agent answered and took about 15 minutes to do the whole story (I had processed my awards on line beforehand to get the 5% discount:)) apart from seat reservations (its on LH and OS and the LH call centre did that very efficiently).

So that was a pleasant surprise. I almost fell of my chair when they answered the 'phone after 12 minutes!

Cheetah_SA
Mar 19, 09, 8:00 am
Final episode (I fervently hope!):

Went to CPT and asked them to check my booking explaining that the Voyage call centre claimed the ticket had not been revalidated. Sure enough, the agent told me that although there was a note on reservation to "charge change fee to original cc" this had not been done and so I had booking but it was not associated with the e-ticket. I was told this was happening often nowadays. Told her to go ahead and charge the fee (if it gets duplicated I will challenge it via the cc company) and she processed that. Then I also asked her to charge the Voyager change fee and revalidate that ticket and I was set to go.

Before I left I asked if this poor service from the call centre was going to stop now that the strike is over. I thought her oblique response was illuminating: "Most customers prefer to come to the airport, sir."

Given the several hours of frustrating phone calls I have endured on this espisode, an hour spent going to CPT and back and ten minutes at the desk (no queue during the day) for a sure fire solution, is nothing. OK, even I finally get it: GO TO THE AIRPORT, DUMMY! (I'll have it tattoed on my dialling finger.)

juzzy
Mar 19, 09, 9:04 am
I had the same problem with SAA in December on a flight to london, they mentioned to me that to change a date would cost R750 per change, so i go to there office in town to change the ticket and they tell me for the date change(which was 1day later i might add) it would cost me R3500, i argued and they started pulling out books of rules etc and so i just left it, there service is absolutely pathetic!!!

capetonian
Mar 20, 09, 1:12 pm
Good advice! Though I seem to remember you are close to CPT? Not quite so convenient for me.



20 minutes drive - all in all 1 hour max. still preferrable to dealing with them by phone. There are a couple of really good old-fashioned - if I may say so - staff at the International ticketing side - they'll go out of their way for you and they especially love it if you know what you are talking about.

Sorry, completetly missed the reply



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