Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - CX F SFO to HKG. Thoughts. Best in the world. IMHO

In HKG at the F Wing in a Cabana. Thoughts on flight and service.

Check-in at SFO. Very inefficient. There was no waiting at the F line but for whatever reason a gentleman from the C counter montioned me over. Have no idea what the F agent was doing. I confirmed seats as asked about Lounge access. At that time the agent printed the lounge passes. Wanted a print-out of the itin so I would not be presenting always big papers. He could not do but said he would asked. Did not proceed.

Screening at SFO. No priority lane and CLEAR was already closed.

Lounge at SFO. CX uses the BA Terraces Lounges. The F Lounge was a set of double doors off the hall. CX does not monitor use so one would think the flight was packed in F. As it was only three F seats were occupied. There was one guy coming in and out from the C Lounge for champagne.

Boarding at SFO. Was somewhat orderly but you have to wonder.

The Flight. This makes you forget everything else. As stated only three passengers including me. I will not go into details because that is available herein within FT. The first thing I noticed was the seating. With only 9 total seats it feels pretty private. The angles of the cabin make it private. Done the EK and SQ private suites and this was much better. I think it is the best mainline F cabin in the skys. I much prefer it over the mentioned EK and SQ along with all the other especially the UA new suite. The FAs introduced themselves and were great the whole flight. Given a changing suit which I selected S for my wife. Also opted for the ladies F amenity kit by Ipa-Nima. The mesh colors of the kit and the interior pouch look great. That is in total contrast to the men kit which has a Victronix label on the outside. The AVOD was excellent with much more content and easy to navigate. The swing out screen made for a real viewing pleasure. The two lavs in F were huge. Among the largest in the air. I can not say many other wonderful things about this plane. Fortunately I will take the exact same plane in a bit. Will return to the US aboard the same type of plane.

The WING. I made it over to the wing which is right by my next gate. The only thing I miss is the frig that was in the Cabana. Could you a bottle of nice cold water. I will have to find one on the way out along with some papers.

In closing. CX has done a great job with their F product given the confines of the 747. It is very comfortable and feels private even without the doors. The service onboard was excellent and I can not wait for my wife to see her new F amenity kit. At this point I much prefer to fly CX like this over SQ into SE Asia. Getting to where I need to be this afternoon is a little work and I would probably not follow this routing again. But for SE Asia it is great. Regards from the Wing.

It's good to see a fresh report on CX F. And it makes me itchy to fly CX again. I'm glad that in the air, the most important part of the flight, the product excelled.

Re the lounge, remember that all top tier OneWorld flyers get to use the F lounge, even if flying coach. That might explain why it was crowded.

Great that you enjoyed your flight.

The check-in in SFO is indeed a little strange. There can be a longer line in F than in J. The F counter may process the J passengers and vice versa. The problem is that there is only one F check-in counter.

For the BA Terrace in SFO, I think those in there were entitled to the F lounge accesses. There are normally one or two DMs and many more EXPs on this flight. They can all get into the F lounge. DMs can bring in two guests and EXP can bring in one. People do get in and out because it is a lot more spacious outside with a few internet stations (compared to one in the F room). In addition, the bathroom is outside.

Posted a trip report over in that forum, but agree that it's a great experience. My wife, I and our 4-month old were the only ones in the F cabin going HKG-SFO last week. Could not have asked for a better experience.

Liked the 74A more than the 77A, for the spacious feel and more private cabin. As others have stated, there is far more traffic from FAs on the 77A due to galley locations. But it's far from an "unbearable" experience, and we enjoyed the JFK-HKG trip a lot as well. The lav is quite nice on the 74A as well, and for us, made changing the baby a bit easier.

We only tried the F section of the Pier, which was fine. Didn't care for the J section of the Wing - crowded, loud and poorly laid out, IMO.

The ladies amenity kit is a lime bright soothing green. Not so green with a outside draw string mesh cover. It has the Ipa-Nima logo on cloth affixed to the outside. The interior holds a clutch with a zipper top. The outside has a leaf pattern with beads on one side. Inside- toothbrush with colgate toothpaste and mouth wash, ear plugs, wood hair brush with plastic brushes (Cathy Pacific on handle), make-up remover pads, Aesop oil free facial hydrating serum, parsley seed anti-oxidant facial toner, resurrection aromatique hand balm, camellia nut facial hydrating cream, booklets from Aesop and Ipa-Nima with the later offering a free gift. Also note the clutch looks to be silk lined with pouches inside. Ipa-Nima logo inside. Probably the nicest kit (aka also fun) ever received.

The service from HKG to NRT was good. Only one extra seat left on this sector in F. Of course no amenity kit. I will enjoy the ride back. Regards from the GHT.

I'm excited to hear that they are distributing the new Aesop amenity kits already... the info here wasn't very clear about when that would happen (it mentioned April for the male kits). I've got YYZ-HKG in F next week... getting very excited!

Nice review/post. But I'm curious: Why do you prefer CX F to the SQ and EK F suites?

I did not want to post this and possibly distribute bad information. But I was told because I made a comment that the men's kit was just not exciting that a new kit was coming branded with the FA thought Bally. But I am not sure and she was not 100% on the brand name. But something new is coming. Does that make sense?

EK F suite. Now I have not done this on the A380 but the A340. The suite is nice and it is private. Much more private than the SQ A380 suite. But the service and food on EK is just nothing compared to CX and SQ let alone NH and JL. EK has hard product but short on style IMHO.

SQ F suite on A380. I flew this sector SIN to NRT and am on record for not being impressed. SQ could have done much more being the launch airline for the A380. In short I thought the cabin lacked style and warmth. On the other hand as stated given the confines of the 747 CX took what they had to work with and made a beautiful cabin with angles, lines and curves which make you feel very comfortable and private. I thought about my comments on the way from HKG to NRT and they are well deserved. CX has always had great service but now they have a great cabin to go along with it. It is just good and I was pleasantly surprised.

The ladies amenity kit is just cool. Looking at it they went beyond tradition and the colors are bold compared to anything out there. As stated it is fun as I look around the room and my wife has her LH F, JL F, UA F and TG C amenity kit pouches she uses to store things. That kit is going to be popular.

More on the return if necessary. Maybe I will see that men's kit. Regards

I did not want to post this and possibly distribute bad information. But I was told because I made a comment that the men's kit was just not exciting that a new kit was coming branded with the FA thought Bally.

I think Bally is what the website says as well.

On the other hand as stated given the confines of the 747 CX took what they had to work with and made a beautiful cabin with angles, lines and curves which make you feel very comfortable and private.

Agree with you here. Really a nicely designed cabin and a very good seat.

I think Bally is what the website says as well.

There's a thread on this forum that introduces the new amenity kits in F and J coming out later this year. You can check it out (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-asia-miles/925360-cx-offers-brand-new-travel-kits.html) for more info! :)

In the bag you will find two pieces of paper. One is from Ipa-Nima. They offer a free gift of a key chain while stock lasts. You must respond via e-mail and provide a scan copy of your F boarding pass. See the offer at www.ipa-nima.com under Cathay Pacific First Class Amenity Bag. They send to you. Enjoy!

There's a thread on this forum that introduces the new amenity kits in F and J coming out later this year. You can check it out (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-asia-miles/925360-cx-offers-brand-new-travel-kits.html) for more info! :)

Thank you!

Ipa-Nima is quick. I received a e-mail back confirming my request and that the item may be shipped out of LA otherwise possibly HK.

Thanks for the report.. I too love the CX F suite, and think it is the best in the air right now!

Checked in for flight and asked about the CX Lounge at NRT. Sounds like a shared Lounge with C. Looking at the info board noted that the JL F Lounge was on the 3rd floor and CX is on 4th. So gave the JL Lounge a shot and was able to use their F Lounge. I do not fly OW that much intl and only have AA lifetime P status so was not sure. Just a FYI.

As stated it had been a couple years since I last flew CX in F. Well make that one day ago in the older seat. Coming from HKG the earlier SFO flight was cxld. Before leaving NRT I confirmed the new suite seat was being used to SFO from HKG. Well when I boarded here I was again back in time. The only other passenger in F had come from Australia via HKG to SFO to try the new seat also. The service was good and the new amenity kit was onboard but of course the comfort level was way down. Regards

The ladies amenity kit is just cool. Looking at it they went beyond tradition and the colors are bold compared to anything out there.

I now have my own CX F ladies amenity kit. It is the girliest yet classiest kit I've gotten from a wide range of airlines in F When emptied, it is a pretty clutch purse. The primary color is burgundy with green accents. Most amenity kits are simply pouches that might or might not find onward use. This one has really been designed to appeal to women and to be put to further use. I can easily toss it in my suitcase so that I've got a change of purses for a night out.

Product inside is excellent, with good size bottles of Aesops.

I now have my own CX F ladies amenity kit. It is the girliest yet classiest kit I've gotten from a wide range of airlines in F When emptied, it is a pretty clutch purse. The primary color is burgundy with green accents. Most amenity kits are simply pouches that might or might not find onward use. This one has really been designed to appeal to women and to be put to further use. I can easily toss it in my suitcase so that I've got a change of purses for a night out.

Product inside is excellent, with good size bottles of Aesops.

Yes, my wife just loves it. The male one is so disappointing: huge brown rectangular pouch that makes it look flat and empty.

Yes, my wife just loves it. The male one is so disappointing: huge brown rectangular pouch that makes it look flat and empty.

I guess CX figures that men won't be using theirs as a clutch purse anyway, so why making bother making it nice? :D

;)
I now have my own CX F ladies amenity kit. It is the girliest yet classiest kit I've gotten from a wide range of airlines in F When emptied, it is a pretty clutch purse. The primary color is burgundy with green accents. Most amenity kits are simply pouches that might or might not find onward use. This one has really been designed to appeal to women and to be put to further use. I can easily toss it in my suitcase so that I've got a change of purses for a night out.

Product inside is excellent, with good size bottles of Aesops.

I also have always been requesting the female F kits instead of the male ones for almost all my ~15-20 flights in the past year...my wife also likes to use it for various purposes at home (she likes the purple/burgundy ones much more than the white ones).

I also have always been requesting the female F kits instead of the male ones for almost all my ~15-20 flights in the past year...my wife also likes to use it for various purposes at home (she likes the purple/burgundy ones much more than the white ones).

So she got a lot of same-style clutch purses.:D

oh you know what...she just educated me yesterday there's actually quite a few materials/colors of the same/similar style...purple/burgundy, white, grey, and the style are somewhat different too...e.g. she really likes one of them and yesterday she asked me to find her another one same color same style to put her new camera in, then I said there should be quite some in the drawer...she then said many are different colors, you know...

If anyone comes across an extra black or burgandy one, can they let me know, I'd put it to good use as a clutch...Sadly, I'm only going in coach so I'll never see one.

Thanks in advance!

I've flown the day flight ex-SFO twice the last two months including one few days ago. Both times the 1st class queue were virtually empty and we were immediately handled without any wait. The biz line on the other hand had some waiting involved through our observations.

As for the F section of the BA lounge, we don't bother with it any longer these days as it feels like being stuffed in box when we're in there. We like the biz section to sit & roam around.

As for Screening at SFO, I am just thankful it is always more efficient and pleasant than going through that devil hole at LAX TBIT. And why is it at SFO the agents can take our luggage directly behind while at LAX, we have to bring it to a special queue and deliver it to the TSA. :rolleyes:

I don't know where the OP boarded, but if boarding from Gate A4, one can board directly from the lounge which is more pleasant than joining the normal crowd at the normal waiting area.

Just wanted to let you know that I received the key chain from Ipa Nima. The item was sent from their Los Angeles office. Compared to the pictures online the item is pretty big. The total weight and surface area is like that of a old US silver dollar. The faux diamonds make the item really stand out. My wife loves it. Of course.

Per their agreement with CX you are allowed one per First roundtrip flight. They have a showroom in Tokyo. Has anyone been to their shop in Vietnam? Thanks.

Is Cathay still distributing the Ipa-Nima ladies amenity pouch? How long does Cathay typically use one still of kit before rotating on to the next? If I fly CX in July, will I likely get the Ipa-Nima bag?

Is Cathay still distributing the Ipa-Nima ladies amenity pouch? How long does Cathay typically use one still of kit before rotating on to the next? If I fly CX in July, will I likely get the Ipa-Nima bag?

The Ipa-Nima kits were still distributed on my flight last week.

I will probably be on CX F next month. On my return a couple months ago was told total conversion should be complete by June 2009. Is it now complete? Thanks.

I will probably be on CX F next month. On my return a couple months ago was told total conversion should be complete by June 2009. Is it now complete? Thanks.
Yes, all 747s have the new seats now.

The old F seats are now only on the five 34Cs.

Thank you.

Yes, all 747s have the new seats now.

The old F seats are now only on the five 34Cs.

And the remaining three-class A330s.

I've moved over most of my travel from CX to SQ in the last year or so, without any second thoughts. I just had 2 flights on CX though (CX888 and CX841) which were really impressive. The inflight service was excellent, particularly on the 841. It was nice being the only passenger in F on both flights, but the crew remained alert and attentive nevertheless. A good CX crew really can make travel most enjoyable.

And the remaining three-class A330s.
Of which there are none, i think. Unless B-HLW has come out of Xiamen, uh, "prematurely"...

Nice review/post. But I'm curious: Why do you prefer CX F to the SQ and EK F suites?

It's interesting that the OP still has not answered your question. I would guess that the reason is that he has actually never flown on the EK or SQ suites, because we all know that they are light years ahead of CX's. I don't even consider the new F product true suites since they don't have doors. Oh, and CX only assigns 2 cabin crew to F while EK and SQ assign 4.

Are you serious? I will let me board reputation and people who know how I like to travel stand on its' own. No concern here. This thread has had 3049reads and you want to call somebody out now. Please. And if you need a clarification on what a answer is. See post number 8 in this thread. I think an apology is due. Of course that is my opinion also.

Are you serious? I will let me board reputation and people who know how I like to travel stand on its' own. No concern here. This thread has had 3049reads and you want to call somebody out now. Please. And if you need a clarification on what a answer is. See post number 8 in this thread. I think an apology is due. Of course that is my opinion also.

In #8, you wrote:

"EK F suite. Now I have not done this on the A380 but the A340. The suite is nice and it is private. Much more private than the SQ A380 suite. But the service and food on EK is just nothing compared to CX and SQ let alone NH and JL. EK has hard product but short on style IMHO.

SQ F suite on A380. I flew this sector SIN to NRT and am on record for not being impressed. SQ could have done much more being the launch airline for the A380. In short I thought the cabin lacked style and warmth. On the other hand as stated given the confines of the 747 CX took what they had to work with and made a beautiful cabin with angles, lines and curves which make you feel very comfortable and private. I thought about my comments on the way from HKG to NRT and they are well deserved. CX has always had great service but now they have a great cabin to go along with it. It is just good and I was pleasantly surprised."

To clarify, the EK A340-500 Suites are the oldest in the fleet, and you have not been on the latest Suites on select EK B777s and all A380s. Yet, you make the bold claim that CX has superior F seats, which don't even have doors, let alone electric ones.

Further, I personally find a hard time believing that you find SQ A380 Suites to be worse than CX F seats. The bottom line is that you flew the SQ A380 on what it is usually a 6-hour flight. Naturally, your experience on CX would seem better since that was a flight twice as long with services/amenities in accordance with that duration.

Well. You seem to have found my post. Asked (post 7) and answered (post 8).

If you do not like the title of my thread we will await your counter reports on your personal experience in SQ F and EK F suites on the A380.

In fact, you have inspired me. I like CX F 747s so much I think I will fly them tonight. That means I will. Done with this.

I would guess that the reason is that he has actually never flown on the EK or SQ suites, because we all know that they are light years ahead of CX's. I don't even consider the new F product true suites since they don't have doors. Oh, and CX only assigns 2 cabin crew to F while EK and SQ assign 4.

What a bizarre and unfounded accusation - as you learned in subsequent posts.

I've flown the EK suites several times. You can find a trip report by me in the Trip Report forum on my first time to do so. I enjoyed the suite tremendously. However, the service and the food were so-so. I'm not keen on the EK F lounge in Dubai. I've just flown CX F and had a great experience. We had fantastic service and the food choices were excellent. I had a sufficient privacy, and yet I could catch the eye of the FA as he or she moved thru the cabin. I've flown SQ F on the 777 but not the 380. I found the seat on the CX flight to be more comfortable in the bed position.

But you know, it would be a very foolish thing to squabble about CX vs SQ vs EK. It's nice to have great choices.

It's interesting that the OP still has not answered your question. I would guess that the reason is that he has actually never flown on the EK or SQ suites, because we all know that they are light years ahead of CX's. I don't even consider the new F product true suites since they don't have doors. Oh, and CX only assigns 2 cabin crew to F while EK and SQ assign 4.Hmm, where to start... :rolleyes:

In #8, you wrote:
EK F suite. Now I have not done this on the A380 but the A340. The suite is nice and it is private. Much more private than the SQ A380 suite. But the service and food on EK is just nothing compared to CX and SQ let alone NH and JL. EK has hard product but short on style IMHO.
To clarify, the EK A340-500 Suites are the oldest in the fleet, and you have not been on the latest Suites on select EK B777s and all A380s. Yet, you make the bold claim that CX has superior F seats, which don't even have doors, let alone electric ones.
If you could kindly list me the differences between the A345 suites and the 77W/A380 suites, other than minor differences in dimensions due to a different cabin width and the shower on the A380, perhaps it would be of immense help to myself and the others in understanding your assertion that his experience on the A345 is not representative of the "latest" EK suites and therefore not valid.

SQ F suite on A380. I flew this sector SIN to NRT and am on record for not being impressed. SQ could have done much more being the launch airline for the A380. In short I thought the cabin lacked style and warmth. On the other hand as stated given the confines of the 747 CX took what they had to work with and made a beautiful cabin with angles, lines and curves which make you feel very comfortable and private. I thought about my comments on the way from HKG to NRT and they are well deserved. CX has always had great service but now they have a great cabin to go along with it. It is just good and I was pleasantly surprised."Further, I personally find a hard time believing that you find SQ A380 Suites to be worse than CX F seats. The bottom line is that you flew the SQ A380 on what it is usually a 6-hour flight. Naturally, your experience on CX would seem better since that was a flight twice as long with services/amenities in accordance with that duration.But you've changed your tune half-way through your post, haven't you?

At the beginning of your post, you accuse him of having "actually enver flown on the EK or SQ suites", yet it turns out that your complaint with his post is in fact that 1. he did actually fly the EK suites, only not on the 77W/A380 even though the suites are pretty much identical, and that 2. he did in fact fly on the SQ A380 Suites, but of a flight length not to your satisfaction.

:confused:

Thank you. We are done with that part of the post. We will stick with the positives now. Just onto the facts.

My check-in experience upon arrival at the counter was much different this time. Motioned over to the C post and the agent was very efficient. Told I would be the only passenger in F this evening. Moved from my usual seat to the most private row 1 when nobody is seated in the other. Looking forward to the flight and a good sleep. This trip will be Hong Kong, Macau and Xian, China to see the terracotta warriors. More later if necessary.

Well. You seem to have found my post. Asked (post 7) and answered (post 8).

If you do not like the title of my thread we will await your counter reports on your personal experience in SQ F and EK F suites on the A380.

In fact, you have inspired me. I like CX F 747s so much I think I will fly them tonight. That means I will. Done with this.

Awwww... you are so sweet, thanks! I hope F is not full so that your two cabin crew are not overly stressed, then again that seems to be the case at CX these days. Later.

Hmm, where to start... :rolleyes:

If you could kindly list me the differences between the A345 suites and the 77W/A380 suites, other than minor differences in dimensions due to a different cabin width and the shower on the A380, perhaps it would be of immense help to myself and the others in understanding your assertion that his experience on the A345 is not representative of the "latest" EK suites and therefore not valid.

But you've changed your tune half-way through your post, haven't you?

At the beginning of your post, you accuse him of having "actually enver flown on the EK or SQ suites", yet it turns out that your complaint with his post is in fact that 1. he did actually fly the EK suites, only not on the 77W/A380 even though the suites are pretty much identical, and that 2. he did in fact fly on the SQ A380 Suites, but of a flight length not to your satisfaction.

:confused:

I changed my mind after I went back to #8 so my apologies for doing the logical thing. Then again, I really have no way of knowing whether the OP has flown any of the EK suites or not. Before you ask, yes I have flown them several times. In fact, my current facebook picture is on an EK A340 in F. :cool:

To say that the EK A340-500 suites are identical to those on select B777 and all A380 shows how little you know. To start, the color of the panels is not even the same! Nice try.

Finally, on a flight not my satisfaction? There is quite a difference between a flight of 6 hours and one of 14 hours. I'm sorry, but that's common sense.

I changed my mind after I went back to #8 so my apologies for doing the logical thing.Since you brought up the subject of logical actions, the logical thing to do here would have been not to make such allegations and then contradict yourself, all in the same post.

Then again, I really have no way of knowing whether the OP has flown any of the EK suites or not. Before you ask, yes I have flown them several times. In fact, my current facebook picture is on an EK A340 in F. :cool:I honestly couldn't care less about how many times you've flown EK F or what your facebook picture is (seriously:rolleyes:). It doesn't give you the right to discount others' experiences, let alone accuse them of never having flown the product.

To say that the EK A340-500 suites are identical to those on select B777 and all A380 shows how little you know. To start, the color of the panels is not even the same! Nice try.Oh no!! Different coloured panels!! How will I sleep at night? :rolleyes: My apologies - I hadn't fully appreciated the minute nature of the differences between the aircraft.

Finally, on a flight not my satisfaction? There is quite a difference between a flight of 6 hours and one of 14 hours. I'm sorry, but that's common sense.Common sense? There's a lot of "logical" and "common sense" thrown about regarding a post that completely contradicted itself...

Most others would have understood that my point was not about whether there is any difference between a flight of 6 hours and 14 hours, but whether you justified your accusation that the OP did not in fact fly the SQ A380 Suites. To reiterate, he did in fact fly the SQ A380 Suites, contrary to your original allegation, and your subsequent contradictory complaint was that his SQ R flight was not "long enough".

His comment regarding SQ R was that "In short I thought the cabin lacked style and warmth." You do not need to go on a 14 hours flight to have a look around the cabin and form that opinion.

Awwww... you are so sweet, thanks! I hope F is not full so that your two cabin crew are not overly stressed, then again that seems to be the case at CX these days. Later.

They can rotate in a 3rd FA on SFO-HKG flight. Of course, there may still be an issue during Y/J meal times.

I changed my mind after I went back to #8 so my apologies for doing the logical thing. Then again, I really have no way of knowing whether the OP has flown any of the EK suites or not. Before you ask, yes I have flown them several times. In fact, my current facebook picture is on an EK A340 in F. :cool:

I am not familiar with the EK suites. SQ R suites are definitely way ahead of CX's, but they are not in the same category. It is more appropriate to compare with SQ F.

We really have no way of knowing whether a person has flown before posting his/her comments. We never require any proof, in the same way we cannot verify whether you flew F in a CX 74A, or how many times you have flown.

Since you brought up the subject of logical actions, the logical thing to do here would have been not to make such allegations and then contradict yourself, all in the same post.

I honestly couldn't care less about how many times you've flown EK F or what your facebook picture is (seriously:rolleyes:). It doesn't give you the right to discount others' experiences, let alone accuse them of never having flown the product.

Oh no!! Different coloured panels!! How will I sleep at night? :rolleyes: My apologies - I hadn't fully appreciated the minute nature of the differences between the aircraft.

Common sense? There's a lot of "logical" and "common sense" thrown about regarding a post that completely contradicted itself...

Most others would have understood that my point was not about whether there is any difference between a flight of 6 hours and 14 hours, but whether you justified your accusation that the OP did not in fact fly the SQ A380 Suites. To reiterate, he did in fact fly the SQ A380 Suites, contrary to your original allegation, and your subsequent contradictory complaint was that his SQ R flight was not "long enough".

His comment regarding SQ R was that "In short I thought the cabin lacked style and warmth." You do not need to go on a 14 hours flight to have a look around the cabin and form that opinion.

Thanks, you make it so easy for me!

My comment about the different colors of the EK suites was meant to make you INFER that if at the surface the suites are different, can't you imagine how they vary inside? Either way, thanks again for bringing up the issue of sleep. I manage to rest a lot better on the EK 77W and 380 suites since they have a lamp on the vanity panel that the 345 don't have, and this helps me to sleep since I don't like sleeping in the darkness.

The OP supposedly spent 6 hours on the SQ suites. I really don't have any way of knowing how much he walked around or slept on that flight. Thus, on a flight of 14 hours on CX, my common sense would tell me that he would have more time to do both, which could lead him to conclude that CX F doesn't lack style and warmth. FACT: The total space of the SQ Suites Class cabin is far greater than that of the latest CX F cabin, both on 744 and 77W. Oh, and side note, most of my colleagues agree that the CX F seats look and feel like huge coffins.

Cheers

I am not familiar with the EK suites. SQ R suites are definitely way ahead of CX's, but they are not in the same category. It is more appropriate to compare with SQ F.

We really have no way of knowing whether a person has flown before posting his/her comments. We never require any proof, in the same way we cannot verify whether you flew F in a CX 74A, or how many times you have flown.

Right, I was just comparing them because even though SQ states that its Suites Class product is "a class beyond first," the truth is that other than the actual seats, everything else is the same and officially, on SQ A380s, there are three classes: Suites, Business, and Economy.

If we were to compare head to head SQ's 77W F and CX's 77W/744 F, I'd definitely say that they are very similar, though I'd still prefer SQ due to the better passenger-crew ratio.

In HKG. I affirm my feelings which are my opinion regarding CX F. I was indeed the only person last evening so enjoyed dining in 1A then having it made into a bed at which time I made 1K a seating area. The two FAs assigned to the cabin were great and fun to talk with. Received the ladies amenity talked talked about prior. I had a great sleep so have no idea if another FA was rotated in for a break.

My only concern was a slight downgrade in my opinion of the food offering out. But the airport I flew out of has NEVER ever been known for any good kitchen.

Let us all please move on. I am cool with everything so please do not make anymore of the comments. Regards from HKG.

In HKG. I affirm my feelings which are my opinion regarding CX F. I was indeed the only person last evening so enjoyed dining in 1A then having it made into a bed at which time I made 1K a seating area. The two FAs assigned to the cabin were great and fun to talk with. Received the ladies amenity talked talked about prior. I had a great sleep so have no idea if another FA was rotated in for a break.

My only concern was a slight downgrade in my opinion of the food offering out. But the airport I flew out of has NEVER ever been known for any good kitchen.

Let us all please move on. I am cool with everything so please do not make anymore of the comments. Regards from HKG.

Funny, something similar happened to me on a LHR-SIN flight. I was the only passenger in Suites and the crew was very apologetic because they only had female amenity kits and extra large sleep suits, which I was swimming in! When I went to use the lavatory, the Inflight Supervisor politely told me: "Sir, your bottoms are falling" and the other 3 cabin crew members were trying very hard not to laugh, so I just told them it was ok, we might as well laugh together. Throughout the flight, they kept asking me if I wanted more ice cream. :rolleyes:

Can you describe the food downgrade? I love CX desserts, more than SQ's ones actually.

The only western main course I can even remember was lamb. And I am not a lamb person. So they brought me the C menu. In the end I had a Chinese dish. I think it was the departure of my flight comparing it with my friends who is also here in HKG. She left about three hours prior and hers was more extensive.

The dessert was a chocolate cake with ice cream topped with strawberry sauce.

In HKG. I affirm my feelings which are my opinion regarding CX F. I was indeed the only person last evening so enjoyed dining in 1A then having it made into a bed at which time I made 1K a seating area. The two FAs assigned to the cabin were great and fun to talk with. Received the ladies amenity talked talked about prior. I had a great sleep so have no idea if another FA was rotated in for a break.

Yea F is great with very few pax. My only complaints about CX F would be a.) sometimes limited food options and b.) Too few staff (and long waits) when the F cabin on 74A is full or nearly full. If you can get a flight where there are just a few of you in F, it's pretty amazing.

I just flew the HKG to ICN sector in C on CX. The main lounge was packed and the Lounge is dated. The chairs were disgusting in terms of being worn. The Lounge needs to be renovated. The plane was a 330 and it was nothing to speak of either. But at least I could sleep. I would have opted for one of the other Lounges but my plane left from gate 2.

If you can get a flight where there are just a few of you in F, it's pretty amazing.

Yes, indeed. I have twice been the only pax in a CX 74x F cabin for long haul (both times HKG-LAX, IIRC, once with the old F (744) and once with the Olympus product (74A)), and it's just like what I imagine a private jet would be, except much larger. Feels not at all like an aircraft, and much more like a private room. Obviously, that can't be duplicated on the 77A.

I was on a flight to SFO yesterday. F was full, but the service was exceptional. Meals were served in a timely manner (I did not time it, but lunch was probably less than an hour from start to finish, and breakfast was done in 25 minutes from when the FA took my order to when I finished eating), and they made the beds also in a very timely manner - just about when I was ready for it.

Krug was not on the menu. The Amour de Deutz, Blanc de blanc 1999 was very good. Perhaps I am not a wine tasting person.