Aegean Airlines Miles&Bonus - Aegean Airlines Miles & Bonus

I just signed up because I read that you can get star alliance silver with 3000and gold with 16000!
Does that make sense?

I just signed up because I read that you can get star alliance silver with 3000and gold with 16000!
Does that make sense?

For passengers it definitely makes sense - the lowest qualification criteria EVER!

I am not sure if it makes sense for *A as soon my grandma, her neighbor and their postman and milkman will soon all be *A Golds:D

I've requested milage credit for C Class on SWISS, on my Aegean account but was so far ignored.
What should i do?

It is still unclear for me if the minimal earnings (Ie 500 miles for flying Swiss) are per segment (So minimum of 4 * 500 miles for a AMS-ZRH-ATh-ZRH-AMS itinerary)...or if they are per roundtrip.

Especially when doing many short flights within europe, this might or might not make the program valuable at ~40 segments...

Can somebody enlighten me?

Minimal earnings are "theoretical". A list of booking fares that earn zero miles/points is always to be found at the bottom of each partner airline. As for the non-theoretical question, my experience so far says that miles are per segment, thus, in your example you would get a minimum of 2000 miles.

Thanks KLous!

I am seriously starting to consider switching from Skyteam to *A and fly with LH and A3 to Athens. Maybe you have noticed (Do you fly KL?) that KLM has updated the flight times for the AMS-ATH route starting 27/3/11. The morning flight now leaves at noon from AMS; which is too late if you wanna travel down to the south of Greece that same day.

Thanks KLous!

I am seriously starting to consider switching from Skyteam to *A and fly with LH and A3 to Athens. Maybe you have noticed (Do you fly KL?) that KLM has updated the flight times for the AMS-ATH route starting 27/3/11. The morning flight now leaves at noon from AMS; which is too late if you wanna travel down to the south of Greece that same day.Well, I quit Skyteam (FB) having been PE for 7 years when they changed their rules, and went into heavy *A usage due to A3 joining them; I now only burn my FB miles as a SE! I do have a better (larger) choice now, though, and *A-gold (with A3) is really smart: I was told at the lounges in both SFO and HNL last month that they had never seen the A3 card: they were amazed that there was no validity date on it!

Well, I quit Skyteam (FB) having been PE for 7 years when they changed their rules, and went into heavy *A usage due to A3 joining them; I now only burn my FB miles as a SE! I do have a better (larger) choice now, though, and *A-gold (with A3) is really smart: I was told at the lounges in both SFO and HNL last month that they had never seen the A3 card: they were amazed that there was no validity date on it!

KLouis, how long did it take for you to get the card once you have reached Gold?

Do you get any tags for your bags as you get on TG Gold for example?
I just got *G on A3 after a CPH-FRA-BOM-MUC-CPH with LH in C... and a CPH-BKK-HKT-BKK-CPH in Y.

KLouis, how long did it take for you to get the card once you have reached Gold?I don't remember exactly, but it certainly was several weeks.
Do you get any tags for your bags as you get on TG Gold for example?
I just got *G on A3 after a CPH-FRA-BOM-MUC-CPH with LH in C... and a CPH-BKK-HKT-BKK-CPH in Y.Didn't get any back then but got one (1) after A3 joined *A and a new card was issued.

Are there really no minimum miles on Miles&Bonus flying on USAirways (would give 91 miles from LGA-PHL)?


Btw: Where can I check the booking class of a blue1 flight (that I have not booked yet)?

Are there really no minimum miles on Miles&Bonus flying on USAirways (would give 91 miles from LGA-PHL)?


Btw: Where can I check the booking class of a blue1 flight (that I have not booked yet)?

Indeed, there are no minimum miles for US Airways regardless of booking class.

Dumb question. If I flew msp-ord in F on United would I get just 1500 miles or would I get 4500 miles (1500 x 300%)?

Also do United miles post right away?

Thanks,
Delta747

Dumb question. If I flew msp-ord in F on United would I get just 1500 miles or would I get 4500 miles (1500 x 300%)?

Also do United miles post right away?

Thanks,
Delta747

Considering MSP-ORD is less than 500 miles, you would just get the minimum 1500 miles. Based on experience (LH, LX, US) it takes approx 72 hours for miles to post to A3.

I guess the easy qualification *G status with their FFP costed them quite a bit, with lounge access entries costing ~US$50 per pax. ;)

I guess the easy qualification *G status with their FFP costed them quite a bit, with lounge access entries costing ~US$50 per pax. ;)

I'm not completely sure about that; consider that lounge entry fee is different for partner/member airlines and there are discounts applied to smaller members or newcomers. 50USD seems really too high.

Hi, new member here. I got a question regarding earning miles on the Star Alliance partners. On the Aegean site, it's mentioned that for non-european flights with Brussels Airlines, you get for Y 150% on the flat miles. Does anybody say what those flat miles are based on?

Hi, new member here. I got a question regarding earning miles on the Star Alliance partners. On the Aegean site, it's mentioned that for non-european flights with Brussels Airlines, you get for Y 150% on the flat miles. Does anybody say what those flat miles are based on?

I think it's just the header of the column which is wrong. Instead of Flat Miles it should read Accrual Factor. Like LH (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#LUFTHANSA) earnings.

By the way, welcome!

GBM

I think it's just the header of the column which is wrong. Instead of Flat Miles it should read Accrual Factor. Like LH (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#LUFTHANSA) earnings.

By the way, welcome!

GBM

Thanks! I've been trying to contact them on this, but was not successful thus far. If I do get a reply, I'll post it here as well.

looking at award flights from UA/CO that involve A3 flight from CDG-ATH/HER in biz/first

anyone have experience sitting up from on A3? should i be trying to spend my miles on a different award?

one way awards, have been implemented lately , so you can just book a OW award for half the miles with some special bonus such as 22000 for RT to Milan , Munich or Brussels . (All ex ATH)

ive got a basic quesiton here

ill be flying back to HKG form SIN in two days with UA booked in T which would give me roundabout 800miles - I will consider upgrading to C at the airport though. Will I be able to redeem the miles for C then? (that would be about 3000 miles which would instantly give me A3 Blue right?)

Also, on the outbound leg of this R/T HKG-SIN, I already credited the miles to my M&M account (where I also upgraded to C but m&m only seem to give me the T class amount).

So my two questions are:
1: If I go to the checkin counter at the airport and give them my new A3 M&B number, will I get miles for this leg?
2: If I upgrade to C at the checking counter >PAID C< not a milesupgrade, will I be able to ask A3 for the 3000 miles?

any thoughts?

The answer should be YES in both counts. But be prepared for some retroactive miles credit application, such transactions very often get screwed.

Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question, but according to the Aegean website, intra-European SWISS Business Saver (J class) tickets yield 200% mileage accrual with at least 1000 miles (per segment I assume).

Does anyone know what that would amount to for a trip on LX AMS-ZRH-NUE-ZRH-AMS?

Cheers!

Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question, but according to the Aegean website, intra-European SWISS Business Saver (J class) tickets yield 200% mileage accrual with at least 1000 miles (per segment I assume).

Does anyone know what that would amount to for a trip on LX AMS-ZRH-NUE-ZRH-AMS?

Cheers!


In your case assuming your profile is correct, I would put those miles on your M&M account. that would earn you 2000 instead of 1000 for each segment - so 8000 miles instead of 4000

In your case assuming your profile is correct, I would put those miles on your M&M account. that would earn you 2000 instead of 1000 for each segment - so 8000 miles instead of 400010,000 miles: don't forget the 25% bonus for FTLs, which is not given by A3.

True, I know that. But assuming your FTL status is running out (which mine isn't), then a single trip with LX in J with 4 segments will be sufficient to achieve *S for 3 years, which is a pretty good deal in my book.

True, I know that. But assuming your FTL status is running out (which mine isn't), then a single trip with LX in J with 4 segments will be sufficient to achieve *S for 3 years, which is a pretty good deal in my book.

you mean sufficient to get *S on aegan? Problem is that *S on A3 wont give you any beneftis imo.

A3 is really only then worth it if you need lounge access on all *A carriers and you are not able to get *G on other airlines.
If you have FTL on LH and frequently fly LH then I would say it is better to keep accumulating miles for M&M.

The answer should be YES in both counts. But be prepared for some retroactive miles credit application, such transactions very often get screwed.

how quickly should I apply for such a retroactive application? The UA flight was 2 days ago, usually on M&M this would already have been credited by today. On A3 its not on yet. On M&M also they tell you to wait at least 6 days before asking for a retroactive miles credit.
Also, should I send in my ticket? (As this was a paid Upgrade from Y to C)

I have the A3 silver card, received it about one month after I achieved the status. Valid until Dec/2013. Now I've just qualified to gold, so I'm looking forward to receiving the new card and baggage tag.

So apparently no baggage tag for A3*S .

maaaan what a bummer
I booked 3 MRs just to get this *A Gold but then today I see that they have changed G class on CO earns only 50%... damn!!!!!

Can anyone confirm, is the table on top the correct one or the one on the bottom?

It looks like I have to credit all my trips to Asiana if that is the case, because I would hate to fly 19 000 miles and only get 8000 in the process.

Anyone?

Am also very interested as have 10 international European segments booked on LX/LH in the next few weeks and have lost my M&M FTL/SEN status. Looking for a quick route back to *S/*G.

Worth noting for ex-M&M's is that Aegean is the ONLY FFL program in *A that ISN'T listed if you want to change your FFP on your M&M profile for mileage credit online.

I've sent an email through the M&M site today. What I'm trying to do obviously is change my profile from M&M mileage credit to M&P before flying. Economy routes will be as follows:

LX GVA-LHR (E), LHR-GVA (P) on BMI metal
LH ZRH-FRA-DUB (E), DUB-FRA-ZRH (S) on LH metal
LH ZRH-FRA-DUB (E), DUB-FRA-ZRH (L) on LH metal

Classes in brackets, no executive status any longer. (Shoulda taken the cash offer to keep my SEN status at the time :rolleyes: )

Am also very interested as have 10 international European segments booked on LX/LH in the next few weeks and have lost my M&M FTL/SEN status. Looking for a quick route back to *S/*G.

Worth noting for ex-M&M's is that Aegean is the ONLY FFL program in *A that ISN'T listed if you want to change your FFP on your M&M profile for mileage credit online.

I've sent an email through the M&M site today. What I'm trying to do obviously is change my profile from M&M mileage credit to M&P before flying. Economy routes will be as follows:

LX GVA-LHR (E), LHR-GVA (P) on BMI metal
LH ZRH-FRA-DUB (E), DUB-FRA-ZRH (S) on LH metal
LH ZRH-FRA-DUB (E), DUB-FRA-ZRH (L) on LH metal

Classes in brackets, no executive status any longer. (Shoulda taken the cash offer to keep my SEN status at the time :rolleyes: )

dont you get a soft landing to FTL when losing SEN?!?! afaik you do, so you should be FTL now, which would help you alot more than A3*S on LH/LX routes

Also on those routes you wouldnt earn any miles on A3: http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#LUFTHANSA
E & L doesnt earn any miles at all on A3

I've started to collect on A3 with my first flight put into their program just today as I'll never make SEN on M&M and won't have to requalify for FTL this year. *G here I come :)

Good thing is, even the ultra-cheapo fares that only give 125miles on LX give 500 miles on A3 :)

I enrolled in February, do I have time till December to collect 19k (with 1k "free") to make *G or how does it count?

Worth noting for ex-M&M's is that Aegean is the ONLY FFL program in *A that ISN'T listed if you want to change your FFP on your M&M profile for mileage credit online.

I've sent an email through the M&M site today. What I'm trying to do obviously is change my profile from M&M mileage credit to M&P before flying. Economy routes will be as follows:


Hey Mick,

have you received any answer? I was up to do the exact same thing as you, changing from my Miles&More number the Miles&Points number for an existing Economy Class booking, however.
M&P did not show up in the list of program....

Edit: I now also wrote an E-Mail to M&M asking, what I need to do, to get the miles credited towards Aegean.

just call them or change at check in, thats what I did with LH just beware alot of excluded non earning fare categories


Hey Mick,

have you received any answer? I was up to do the exact same thing as you, changing from my Miles&More number the Miles&Points number for an existing Economy Class booking, however.
M&P did not show up in the list of program....

Edit: I now also wrote an E-Mail to M&M asking, what I need to do, to get the miles credited towards Aegean.

Thanks! I've been trying to contact them on this, but was not successful thus far. If I do get a reply, I'll post it here as well.

Well, it took them only a month to reply :)

Apparently it was a mistake on their site and you do get the actual miles for intercontinental flights. This looks promising...

just call them or change at check in, thats what I did with LH just beware alot of excluded non earning fare categories
I have US Air flights that are not posting. Has anyone else had this experience and beside putting info in on the site, did you have to do anything else and how long did it take?

I did some SQ flights and these posted within 48 hours, however a BMI flight has not posted 5 days later - so have claimed for this online.

Regarding the cards - they do take a while to arrive - 1.5-2 months. Maybe they only do a print run every month or so.

I have US Air flights that are not posting. Has anyone else had this experience and beside putting info in on the site, did you have to do anything else and how long did it take?


I flew on 3/10 on USAir, used the online claim around 3/18. Miles posted today.

my claim of a LX flight did posted fine :) Took only around 1 week to post..

I flew from VIE via ZHR to ORD for Christmas on LX. I wanted to credit both ways to my Aegean Miles and Bonus account since I am close to Gold with them. The return trip was credited no problem, but the way there has not. I finally got through to someone at Aegean, and after more waiting, he told me that Swiss says they were credited already.
Now I do have a lot of Star Alliance cards (United and Continental because of all the CCard miles bonuses, Miles and More because I am now based in Vienna, and Miles and Bonus because I want Gold fast).
However, the miles do not show up on any of my Star Alliance accounts. There seems to have been a mistake somewhere.
Swiss or M&M have been unable to tell me whether these miles have been credited. THey tell me to try to claim them online. I have not tried to claim them with another airline than Aegean, because I really want them on that account only - I am really close to Gold.

How do I find out where these miles have been credited since they don't show up anywhere?

I have tried calling repeatedly, but no one from Swiss or Miles and More or Aegean Miles and Bonus has been able to answer this. They all point me to call the people I just talked to.

Thanks for any ideas!

Is there any RDM bonus for Blue or Gold levels on A3?

I'm contemplating putting 20k miles into A3 for up to three (!) years of *G lounge access. Assuming I don't get any RDM bonus at any point, I'd be giving up about 20k RDMs (worth roughly $200 to me).

An RCC membership is $400/yr for a 1P and I'd need roughly 2-ish years worth of membership, so I'd still be saving about $600.

Is there any RDM bonus for Blue or Gold levels on A3?

Based on their website, there doesn't seem to be.

Based on their website, there doesn't seem to be.

Hm, ok. It seems like the best use for A3 is long haul premium fares, no?

Hm, ok. It seems like the best use for A3 is long haul premium fares, no?
Well the best use for A3 is getting *G easily. Everything else is secondary.

i am 3250 miles away for A3 *G.

anyone has any experience of redeem A3 miles?

so far AC flight posted no probelm, LH flights no problems, but big problems with Blue1 flights, I had two flights that were upgraded with optiontown and they just wont post no one will tell me why as the booking class is earnable and cannot get a straight awnser fro agean, really sucks as this short 2400 mile trip is enough to boost my level!!!!!!! february 22 flight and now its 2 months later!

hi,
ill probly be flying aegean sometime soon to athens, what exactly are my benefits with the "blue status"?

also, when i reach *G with A3 and I have a LH flight, am I able to use the SEN lounge aswell or only business lounges?
When I checkin a flight of LH and use my A3 *S, I assume I wont be able to use the business checkin counter, what about with the A3 *G card?

regards.

hi,
ill probly be flying aegean sometime soon to athens, what exactly are my benefits with the "blue status"?
Extra 5kg checked baggage allowance. And that's pretty much it. http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/blue-card-privileges/
also, when i reach *G with A3 and I have a LH flight, am I able to use the SEN lounge aswell or only business lounges?
As A3*G, you may use Senator and business lounges. http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/uk/info_and_services/at_the_airport/lounges/ (You may also use all A3 lounges irrespective of which airline you are flying on any given day. Since there are only three, you may not find yourself using this very often.)
When I checkin a flight of LH and use my A3 *S, I assume I wont be able to use the business checkin counter, what about with the A3 *G card?
You can use First Class or Business Class check-in with any *G card. http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/gold-card-privileges/

Miles from BD flights credited without a hitch as well. Took about 5 days iirc.

Reading what Aegean answered, my feeling is that the problem lies with Blue1 (and Spanair) and not A3.

All alliances have fare classes that earn zero miles, bad business or not! Having recently switched alliances (I was Platinum Elite with Flying Blue until one year ago), I can only say that you'll have to look in detail into what each one offers, or to be more precise, what the airline you mostly use does. In my case, until a couple of years ago Skyteam and AF were much better than *A and LH or LX (considering both perks, prices and schedule). Then, Flying Blue changed its rules, and *A with LX as the main carrier used (and certainly not LH) became better for me. This advantage was then "topped" after A3 joined the alliance.

I now mostly fly A3 within Europe and any *A carrier for long haul depending on price and schedule (e.g. TK to ORD; about 1000 Euro cheaper than other airlines in business). But AF still remains in my heart, and I do fly them when I can.

+1

So i just flew a quick flight from yvr-psp, booked the ticket on AC.com and the booking class was L which earns 100 percent. The flights were united codeshares and i only recieved 50% miles, should i get 100 or 50 because it showed L class when i booked the ticket?

So i just flew a quick flight from yvr-psp, booked the ticket on AC.com and the booking class was L which earns 100 percent. The flights were united codeshares and i only recieved 50% miles, should i get 100 or 50 because it showed L class when i booked the ticket?

You get miles based on the class which the OPERATING carrier assigned.

In this case, it looks like UA assigned a class which earns 50% miles, while AC (the marketing carrier) assigned a 100% miles class.

This happens relatively often in *A, so in the future, I suggest booking directly with the operating carrier or through a site like Orbitz which shows the operating class for all flights.

If you try to contest this, A3 will send you to UA, which will show you the operating fare class. If you go to AC, they'll send you to A3, who will send you back to UA, so you can't really fix this.

You get miles based on the class which the OPERATING carrier assigned.

In this case, it looks like UA assigned a class which earns 50% miles, while AC (the marketing carrier) assigned a 100% miles class.

This happens relatively often in *A, so in the future, I suggest booking directly with the operating carrier or through a site like Orbitz which shows the operating class for all flights.

If you try to contest this, A3 will send you to UA, which will show you the operating fare class. If you go to AC, they'll send you to A3, who will send you back to UA, so you can't really fix this.

Thanks, its not a huge deal as i rarely fly united, but none the less annoying. Fortunately, after arguing with a rep for A3 and sending in print screens of my AC booking they said they would credit the miles this one time.

Thanks, its not a huge deal as i rarely fly united, but none the less annoying. Fortunately, after arguing with a rep for A3 and sending in print screens of my AC booking they said they would credit the miles this one time.

Yes, the call center is very professional and helpful, I'm glad it worked out for ya.

If I was on LH942 FRA-MAN, operated by BD metal and crew, but LH flight number, should miles be credited on the basis of LH or BD?

Lufthansa.

If I was on LH942 FRA-MAN, operated by BD metal and crew, but LH flight number, should miles be credited on the basis of LH or BD?


unfortunately in star alliance you get credit based on METAL flown not marketing carrier :(

unfortunately in star alliance you get credit based on METAL flown not marketing carrier :(

Metal flown is BD. But mileage posted is LH-style, as confirmed by other posters.

I was expecting it to be BD-style initially, have no idea why it turned out like that.

when flying AC flight ope by LH I was credit ZERO as per LH rules NOT AC whom I bought from

Just a quick update from my side.

Everything has been posted for my flights so far:
MUC-BJS (Lufthansa)
PDG-KWL (Air China)
HKG-MUC (Lufhtansa)
MUC - CHT (Lufthansa)
CHT-PHX (US Airways)

Right now I am awaiting a PHX-ORD (United) and a ORD-MUC (Lufthansa).

Had to enter the A3 Frequent Flyer Number through the phone as, there was no way at the Lufthansa online site to set the A3 Card. Air China miles were claimed afterwards through the Aegean Homepage.

As two of those flights were in Business, this should be enough for *G. But let´s see.

Quick update from my side. LX from IST-ZRH, two things:

1) The check-in agent actually did know about A3, no need to tell her the "code". Probably because IST is close to Greece I would assume.

2) She told me "You won't have lounge access when using your A3 card" to which I replied "I'm sorry you're wrong, but as long as I'm FTL I do have". She doublechecked with her superior by phone, then handed me the lounge invitation card. I assume I was correct then? (Never had an outstation before where I actually needed an invitation, so far all I had was FTL card+boarding pass just like in ZRH)

Y...Orbitz which shows the operating class for all flights...

I just looked at Orbitz.com for the first time and it seems like an excellent site.

I can see the fare basis and booking rules if I start to book a flight and click on "Airfare taxes and fees" - but how can I get to see the actual operating class, please?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer...

Quick update from my side. LX from IST-ZRH, two things:

1) The check-in agent actually did know about A3, no need to tell her the "code". Probably because IST is close to Greece I would assume.

2) She told me "You won't have lounge access when using your A3 card" to which I replied "I'm sorry you're wrong, but as long as I'm FTL I do have". She doublechecked with her superior by phone, then handed me the lounge invitation card. I assume I was correct then? (Never had an outstation before where I actually needed an invitation, so far all I had was FTL card+boarding pass just like in ZRH)

Were you not *G with A3, or was it because of the CIP lounge renovation?

I can see the fare basis and booking rules if I start to book a flight and click on "Airfare taxes and fees" - but how can I get to see the actual operating class, please?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer...

The first letter of the fare basis is the booking class. If you need to know how to translate that into economy/business/first, there are charts available (try Google) which will translate one into the other; it differs by airline (with the exception of F, C, J, and Y which seem to be pretty standard).

Were you not *G with A3, or was it because of the CIP lounge renovation?

I'm running towards *G qualification with them, not yet reached. I'm still putting most European short flights into LX when it's a 750 milage class, but for IST having the full milage (1094) instead of 750+25% was actually better.

However the check on the Business line was funny. There were around 30 people (FTL and SEN) and around 60 or so in Y, and they kept asking every single pax in the C line if they're flying business and if not going to the Eco line.

On which every pax answered they got Status and kept standing there. (Everyone was actually in Y) Was pretty funny, and get to be more or less a joke in the line after the 4th or 5th pax.

Flying LX, even as *G from A3 you would get the lounge invitation for the Millenium Lounge I assume. It's only for those poor folks having to use the *G longe as they're flying Turkish..

The airport was still a zoo, of course boarding a flight to KUL and a A321 to ZRH at a double gate at the very same time isn't the best idea. Well, apparently it is, for Turkish Airport..

LX service, by the way, was absolutely good, and after the "issue" at the checkin I didn't even bothered to ask for exit row, usually I'm getting aisle anyway as there are tons of SEN on the flight. I was slightly dissappointed when I've checked my BP and it said 25B, only to realise a few minutes later this was an A321 so it was lucky day time :D (I wonder why they assigned the seat to me, given that I've used my A3 card all SEN and FTL should have been in front of me getting an exit row seat. But maybe the checkin agent was sorry for being wrong about lounge access and thought to make it up with me by giving exit row. Task achieved ;) )

I'm running towards *G qualification with them, not yet reached. I'm still putting most European short flights into LX when it's a 750 milage class, but for IST having the full milage (1094) instead of 750+25% was actually better.

However the check on the Business line was funny. There were around 30 people (FTL and SEN) and around 60 or so in Y, and they kept asking every single pax in the C line if they're flying business and if not going to the Eco line.

On which every pax answered they got Status and kept standing there. (Everyone was actually in Y) Was pretty funny, and get to be more or less a joke in the line after the 4th or 5th pax.

Flying LX, even as *G from A3 you would get the lounge invitation for the Millenium Lounge I assume. It's only for those poor folks having to use the *G longe as they're flying Turkish..

The airport was still a zoo, of course boarding a flight to KUL and a A321 to ZRH at a double gate at the very same time isn't the best idea. Well, apparently it is, for Turkish Airport..

LX service, by the way, was absolutely good, and after the "issue" at the checkin I didn't even bothered to ask for exit row, usually I'm getting aisle anyway as there are tons of SEN on the flight. I was slightly dissappointed when I've checked my BP and it said 25B, only to realise a few minutes later this was an A321 so it was lucky day time :D (I wonder why they assigned the seat to me, given that I've used my A3 card all SEN and FTL should have been in front of me getting an exit row seat. But maybe the checkin agent was sorry for being wrong about lounge access and thought to make it up with me by giving exit row. Task achieved ;) )

Thanks for the great details!. Flying LX ex-IST in late June and I'm glad I chose LX over TK since the latter doesn't provide *G in Y any lounge access while the former does! ^

Was there seat blocking for status pax on your flight?

Thanks for the great details!. Flying LX ex-IST in late June and I'm glad I chose LX over TK since the latter doesn't provide *G in Y any lounge access while the former does! ^

Was there seat blocking for status pax on your flight?

The flight was full or close to full (I think 1 empty seat in Y, 0 in C)

Thus no seat blocking, the only empty one was last row middle seat

I hope for you that by late June the freezing weather in IST will have stopped :D

Quick update from my side. LX from IST-ZRH, two things:

1) The check-in agent actually did know about A3, no need to tell her the "code". Probably because IST is close to Greece I would assume.

2) She told me "You won't have lounge access when using your A3 card" to which I replied "I'm sorry you're wrong, but as long as I'm FTL I do have". She doublechecked with her superior by phone, then handed me the lounge invitation card. I assume I was correct then? (Never had an outstation before where I actually needed an invitation, so far all I had was FTL card+boarding pass just like in ZRH)
M&M FTL only gives you lounge access in LX, LH and OS lounges, but certainly not in Istanbul. You can check on the M&M website, they have a lounge finder (you have to login).

M&M FTL only gives you lounge access in LX, LH and OS lounges, but certainly not in Istanbul. You can check on the M&M website, they have a lounge finder (you have to login).

So you think that all the times I've been to Istanbul with my collegues (mostly FTL as well) and they've granted us access into the Millenium lounge by invitation card was wrong? Sorry but the Swiss page does not agree with your comment ;)

My question was if you're FTL but using a different *A card which doesn't have access to the lounge you still get access to the lounge or not. I got access, so I guess (but still not confirmed) that I was correct. It always does work in those lounges you don't need an invitation (FTL card + valid BP of LX flight) but in this case that you actually need an invitation, I wasn't completely sure (still not, but apparently they still give you out the invitation)

Ah well, will soon have another check on this, VLC lounge needs invitation as well :D

I'm not sure if you're officially allowed to accrue miles to one program while using the status of the other, but most places seem to allow it.

AFAIK, to enjoy published *G benefits (baggage allowance, lounge access), you don't need to have the *G status reflected on the BP. Showing it (and letting the agent swipe it) is sufficient IME. Unpublished benefits such as op-ups and better service onboard (if any) will not be given as the pax manifest will not reflect the *G status.

AFAIK, to enjoy published *G benefits (baggage allowance, lounge access), you don't need to have the *G status reflected on the BP. Showing it (and letting the agent swipe it) is sufficient IME. Unpublished benefits such as op-ups and better service onboard (if any) will not be given as the pax manifest will not reflect the *G status.

While most agents will do what you said, officially they can't. On CO last week, the station manager stopped at the gate and made an announcement that "star gold status must be printed on your boarding pass for any benifits"

CO is the only airline I've ever flown to have *G printed on your boarding pass, and they pay attention.

So you think that all the times I've been to Istanbul with my collegues (mostly FTL as well) and they've granted us access into the Millenium lounge by invitation card was wrong? Sorry but the Swiss page does not agree with your comment ;)

My question was if you're FTL but using a different *A card which doesn't have access to the lounge you still get access to the lounge or not. I got access, so I guess (but still not confirmed) that I was correct. It always does work in those lounges you don't need an invitation (FTL card + valid BP of LX flight) but in this case that you actually need an invitation, I wasn't completely sure (still not, but apparently they still give you out the invitation)

Ah well, will soon have another check on this, VLC lounge needs invitation as well :D
Well I guess if they let you in all the time you are right. When I search for an FTL lounge in IST on the M&M website it tells me there isn't any though, so I guess the M&M website isn't accurate in that respect then.

On your question, yes I do that too, collect miles on A3 and use my FTL card to go in Business lounge in ZRH - but have no experience with invitation lounges.

CO is the only airline I've ever flown to have *G printed on your boarding pass, and they pay attention.

I am Star Silver right now (a few hundreds miles short of Gold) and my US and CA BPs have reflected "Star Silver" (conspicuously) or "*S", respectively.

booked my LX C flight last week which will make me A3 Gold in december...
hopefully they wont change anything until then ;)

You got to *G faster than one can say "star alliance", and this status goes along with a validity of more than three and a half years. And you call pathetic the fact that you got no upgrade certificates! Check to see how many programmes do give some, and then start complaining.

+1

Having the opportunity to become *G with just 20k miles is already the bonus package... if you want vouchers go to M&M but keep in mind those 100k you will need for *G.

what I am currently doing is getting *G with A3 with that one flight and I will put the rest of the flights on my M&M account.
Just gotta decide whether using M&M or M&B for A3 flights.

I'm quite new here (and also feel like a bit of an idiot for asking this), but has anyone got a suggestion for a *S mileage run that isn't too expensive (preferably below €500) and ex-BRU? I checked SN's site, but they don't display booking classes when booking (neither does SK for that matter), so when I book an flight SN somewhere, I have no idea what class I am in.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.

I'm quite new here (and also feel like a bit of an idiot for asking this), but has anyone got a suggestion for a *S mileage run that isn't too expensive (preferably below €500) and ex-BRU? I checked SN's site, but they don't display booking classes when booking (neither does SK for that matter), so when I book an flight SN somewhere, I have no idea what class I am in.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
With SN, you can see the booking class when you reach the "Review" page (Review your shopping cart). There, you have for out- and inbound flights a "View full fare conditions" link, in which you will have a menu item that shows you the booking class.

thanks a lot for that, I'm still looking for a route that allows me to score *S in one go though. I tried a route using the LH site and it gave me for a total of 5 flights (3 of which were within Germany) a price of 3945 euros. Which is way above what I can afford. So yeah, any suggestions are welcome.

Try with LX.

On random dates, BRU-ZRH-IST in L class R/T (100% miles on A3)

1094 miles for ZRH-IST 2 times, 500 miles each for BRU-ZRH

Makes a bit more than 3000 miles - tada!

278 Euros all incl.

I'm pretty sure it goes even cheaper, or for more miles... just a random search to IST, as the distance there is over 1000 miles from ZRH, so together with the minimum 500 miles for BRU it will easy go.

Okay, thanks a lot. I hadn't tried LX yet, because I once tried them for a random BRU-ZRH booking and ended up with a 900 euro fare in discounted Y.

Okay, thanks a lot. I hadn't tried LX yet, because I once tried them for a random BRU-ZRH booking and ended up with a 900 euro fare in discounted Y.

yes, BRU-ZRH R/T is around 600-800 Euro, while BRU-ZRH-IST (or most other destinations) is less than 300 Euro R/T. That's revenue management at it's best. Donating LX flights into A3 works pretty well, as even the cheapest Eco fares have 500 miles guaranteed, and with L which isn't really much more than el-cheapo fares, you can already get the full 100% (which only makes a difference over 500 miles, so you want a trip as far as possible from ZRH which still counts as "Europe" as otherwise the far goes up a lot.

Looking at booking a flight FCO-ATH on Aegean in Economy. It says excess baggage for international flights is 1.5% of the IATA published fare. The fare I will book is a special fare 38 Euro/pp. I think I come up with $167 using ITA. So it will be 1.5% of $167 for every kg over 20 is that right?

Looking at booking a flight FCO-ATH on Aegean in Economy. It says excess baggage for international flights is 1.5% of the IATA published fare. The fare I will book is a special fare 38 Euro/pp. I think I come up with $167 using ITA. So it will be 1.5% of $167 for every kg over 20 is that right?

no, 1.5% of full Y. Which is probably a small 4-digit number..

no, 1.5% of full Y. Which is probably a small 4-digit number..

Flex on the website is 178 , Business is 252. So you really think it would be 4 digits?

Does anyone know how long it will take for the card package to arrive in the US? it took me about 3months to recieve the blue card!! and i was upgraded to gold on Apr.8 and still did not recieve my gold card here in NY?!!

Flex on the website is 178 , Business is 252. So you really think it would be 4 digits?

In that case, most probably not. I didn't expected their full Y/C to be that low, but thats from route to route. LX on their route to ATH is charging much higher, but it seems logical as ATH is probably sought much more often from ZRH than from FCO, just from touristic value I guess.

Flex on the website is 178 , Business is 252. So you really think it would be 4 digits?

Looking up Expert Flyer for FCO-ATH on airline YY (YY = IATA published fare) gives you EUR 843. So, 1.5% would come up to EUR 12.65 per kg, if that's how A3 really calculates it.

Thanks for looking it up on EF, I think we will plan on that amount and try not to go over, but that will be hard for a two week trip. With both business and pleasure makes it hard to pack light.

I did try to call aegean, was on hold for 10 minutes twice and got cut off both times. Not exactly confidence inspiring.

Does anyone know how long it will take for the card package to arrive in the US? it took me about 3months to recieve the blue card!! and i was upgraded to gold on Apr.8 and still did not recieve my gold card here in NY?!!

I would say if it has gone past three months you should get in touch. I never received my gold package but I did receive two replacement cards by mail - about two and three months after gold was applied to my account.

They do respond to mails on their website, and should be able to order you a replacement card.

I personally do NOT understand WHY it is so difficult for the aegean "customer" service to awnser simple questions... When asking other frequent flyer programs ie how many miles I would earn with a specific flight from point A to point B and class they will reply XXX miles with aegean they simply say look on the web site or look here they take the time to reply with JUNK why cant they just say... I am regretting ever joining their crappy program... okay VENT over :)

Hello!
I'm hoping that anyone could please help me to find a very economical way to reach gold status with Aegean ( I need 18k points). I've looked for a R/T OSL-ZRH-BOS-ZRH-OSL with Swiss to around 15k NOK, approx 1900€. What do you think of this? I could also take several trips if you have a cheaper alternative.

As you've might understand by now: I'm located at OSL.

Hope to get some constructive suggestions.

Have a nice day.

-- fluxie

you might try flying a few TATL segments on the likes of AC, all booking classes on AC earn at least 100% miles. (there is Tango which doesn't, but I've never been able to select that as a fare class)

Hello!
I'm hoping that anyone could please help me to find a very economical way to reach gold status with Aegean ( I need 18k points). I've looked for a R/T OSL-ZRH-BOS-ZRH-OSL with Swiss to around 15k NOK, approx 1900€. What do you think of this? I could also take several trips if you have a cheaper alternative.

As you've might understand by now: I'm located at OSL.

Hope to get some constructive suggestions.

Have a nice day.

-- fluxie

I am also located at OSL and recently booked a R/T trip for me and my fiance to Los Angeles with Swiss (OSL-ZRH-LAX-ZRH-OSL) for about 5600 NOK each (about 710€). You might have to travel in late october/november or december. This will make us *A Gold because we already have had some trips in Europe and will have some european trips in near future.

I personally do NOT understand WHY it is so difficult for the aegean "customer" service to awnser simple questions... When asking other frequent flyer programs ie how many miles I would earn with a specific flight from point A to point B and class they will reply XXX miles with aegean they simply say look on the web site or look here they take the time to reply with JUNK why cant they just say... I am regretting ever joining their crappy program... okay VENT over :)
Well, I think you never asked FB or M&M, you'd see what kind of answers you get from them... But, besides that, why don't you look in their web pages as suggested?

Well, I think you never asked FB or M&M, you'd see what kind of answers you get from them... But, besides that, why don't you look in their web pages as suggested?


The reason being is I NEED a EXACT amount of miles to requalify for status and I am trying to find out if that route gives it to me... if it gives me ONE mile less then there is NO POINT in taking it, hence why I want to know and I cannot find the EXACT miles on their web site!

They really should start to make things easier over all in star alliance ie that miles would be awarded based on the ticket sold not who flies a code share etc etc its a really sticky jungle out there making it crap for customers!

as for FB ive never had a bad response from them, they reply to questions as asked, no experience on M & M

Does anyone know how long it typically takes A3 to post miles to CO OnePass? I've taken five flight with them over the past week but no miles have posted.

yes but even if they are not "lost" if it takes you over a year to get your status because of that then it is super bad for the alliance... even with all this I am thinking of switching allainces completely due to the lack of consistency the star alliance seems to hold throughout...

they really need to work on this , I have never had a problem crediting miles that took this long... EVEN MORE SO I think it is deplorable that a alliance has ZERO miles earning classes... ALL PAID tickets should earn something even if its a measely 150 miles there should never be a ZERO class

bad business in my view

The reason being is I NEED a EXACT amount of miles to requalify for status and I am trying to find out if that route gives it to me... if it gives me ONE mile less then there is NO POINT in taking it, hence why I want to know and I cannot find the EXACT miles on their web site!

Why don't you make us the pleasure and choose another air alliance now?

Sorry, you're just complaining and complaining... You blame A3 for everything, even if it's not their fault (credit of KF flight)...

If you're so short of miles to not even getting status @ A3, then I really doubt if you deserve the A3 *A status...
Go and find another alliance, where all your wishes were fully satisfied!

And be happy with what you can achieve!

pls canx!

Why don't you make us the pleasure and choose another air alliance now?

Sorry, you're just complaining and complaining... You blame A3 for everything, even if it's not their fault (credit of KF flight)...

If you're so short of miles to not even getting status @ A3, then I really doubt if you deserve the A3 *A status...
Go and find another alliance, where all your wishes were fully satisfied!

And be happy with what you can achieve!


hmmm to each their own :) of course im SHORT of miles when flights ARE NOT POSTED correctly...

as for the amounts that was the whole point, im sure you are MR perfect but I am have no intrest to donate miles to wasted causes... I just WANT to make sure I get what I padi for evidently that irks you... too bad

Does anyone have experience with buying a biz ticket (in this case on LH) and then using miles to upgrade the flight (long-haul). Will Aegean credit based upon the Biz fare (in spite of the segment showing O class)?

Does anyone have experience with buying a biz ticket (in this case on LH) and then using miles to upgrade the flight (long-haul). Will Aegean credit based upon the Biz fare (in spite of the segment showing O class)?
I can't offer a direct answer from experience with A3's programme (I've never upgraded to F from business!!!), but I did upgrade, often, from full fare coach to business on KL and AF using miles; I always got the miles for what I had paid for and never for the "free" upgrade. Obviously, only an educated guess, but I think that this should be true for all programmes.

The reason being is I NEED a EXACT amount of miles to requalify for status and I am trying to find out if that route gives it to me... if it gives me ONE mile less then there is NO POINT in taking it, hence why I want to know and I cannot find the EXACT miles on their web site!

They really should start to make things easier over all in star alliance ie that miles would be awarded based on the ticket sold not who flies a code share etc etc its a really sticky jungle out there making it crap for customers!

as for FB ive never had a bad response from them, they reply to questions as asked, no experience on M & M

Well imo it'll be very hard for you to play the miles game if you cannot check a couple websites to find out fares and total mileage accrual.

All you gotta do is enter the route in any mileage calculator on the web. Then check your fare with the *A airline you'll be flying and then then go to Aegean's site to see what % you'll be getting in that fare.

I personally have no complains about Aegean. I've even called their CS in Greece a couple of times and they were extremely helpful (and no, I did not ask about how many miles I was going to get :))

Well imo it'll be very hard for you to play the miles game if you cannot check a couple websites to find out fares and total mileage accrual.

All you gotta do is enter the route in any mileage calculator on the web. Then check your fare with the *A airline you'll be flying and then then go to Aegean's site to see what % you'll be getting in that fare.

I personally have no complains about Aegean. I've even called their CS in Greece a couple of times and they were extremely helpful (and no, I did not ask about how many miles I was going to get :))

I will have to look at the web to see if I can find a generic calculator as the one like SAS only shows their routes...

as for customer serivice ive only had issues with miles crediting which is a major issue with the status as status will NOT change till they actually credit the miles... not so sure why they are having prblems but they really do need to fix those...

thanks for your input will see about it now :)

I will have to look at the web to see if I can find a generic calculator as the one like SAS only shows their routes...

as for customer serivice ive only had issues with miles crediting which is a major issue with the status as status will NOT change till they actually credit the miles... not so sure why they are having prblems but they really do need to fix those...

thanks for your input will see about it now :)

Here are many to choose from...
http://www.google.com/search?q=airline+mileage+calculator&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

as for customer serivice ive only had issues with miles crediting which is a major issue with the status as status will NOT change till they actually credit the miles... not so sure why they are having prblems but they really do need to fix those...

If miles don't credit, it is an issue with the operating carrier, not the crediting one.

Well finally on MAY 23rd I was credited for my flights in february :) now im a happy camper :) better late then never :D

Has anyone flown with BMI and used their A3 membership card for miles accumulation? Have the documented problems with BMI miles not posting been fixed or is it still a risk putting down the A3 number when taking BMI flights?

Has anyone flown with BMI and used their A3 membership card for miles accumulation? Have the documented problems with BMI miles not posting been fixed or is it still a risk putting down the A3 number when taking BMI flights?

I did back in Mar - A3 status showed on BP, seat block worked, miles did not post after 5 days so I did a retro claim on A3 website and then miles posted.

Has anyone flown with BMI and used their A3 membership card for miles accumulation? Have the documented problems with BMI miles not posting been fixed or is it still a risk putting down the A3 number when taking BMI flights?

It's been working fine for Mrs. stifle, with the exception of first time out when her flight was cancelled and she was transferred to the next one. A retro-claim sorted it out.

Does anyone know if it is possible to bring a companion with you in the lounge with the A3 *G card?

Does anyone know if it is possible to bring a companion with you in the lounge with the A3 *G card?

Yes, *A benefit of *G is 1 guest allowance into *G lounge. Enjoy

I haven't been able to enter it at the LX online checkin (most recently tried mid-February), but it was successfully entered from the printed out card twice by the agents at the baggage drop desk at ZRH.

Booked on LH ex-ZRH today, I couldn't enter my A3 number at the checkin machine and the lady at the baggage drop counter was not able to either (quoting "refused by carrier" or something similar). Due to delays in FRA I was later rebooked on LX and this time A3 was successfully entered at baggage drop. Could this be due to LH-LX system differences? Or just the agent at the counter?

I'm hoping there aren't any issues on the return trip in a few days, since these flights should be enough for me to qualify for *G!

Right, so today I booked my flights on LX (BRU-ZRH-IST-ZRH-BRU) and got my confirmation email, however I noticed that one of the flights (the IST-ZRH one, flight number LX1805) is missing a checkin barcode on the printed e-ticket. Is this normal? (ie: does the barcode from the ZRH-IST flight also contain data for the return flight?) I just checked the PDF and it has the same problem. Any suggestions?

Edit: I have contacted LX about it, but so far have not yet received a reply

Edit no.2: Received a reply from LX this moring stating that it is not an issue

Why did you post this in a thread on Aegean, rather than Swiss?

Judging from his profile, I can only assume it's because it was an A3 miles booking. Even then, it's tenuous.

Has anyone had any experience getting into a *A lounge without the card - but with *G on the boarding pass. I made *G by 45 miles with 3 flights - my 4th will be in about a week - wondering if it's likely I can use this approach until the card comes.

Fine on SQ - I emailed A3 to ask for a letter/fax confirming status but they would not send one and advised taking a screenprint of my account page showing gold status. This was fine for SQ lounges in LHR and SIN and for checkin, priority boarding etc.

No, they only count towards awards.

Thanks, oh well. Still strange that they don't specify it anywhere...

Well, status miles are, logically, only accrued when you actually fly and not when you use credit cards, spend money, rent a car or anything else...
The welcome miles might sometimes count as status miles because it's more like an incentive for you to join.

Mrs. stifle reports that her BD flights take anything up to three weeks to post to A3.

Well I'm supposed to call SQ later today to change my reservation, switching to KF to M&B. Let's see how it goes. We all know how "picky" SQ is when it comes to third party stuff :)

I'm with United right now and trying to build miles. I just discovered A3's super low *G qualifications and realized that I might Make *G and will definitely get *S in 2012. Does it make sense to sign up and start posting my miles to A3 Is there anyway to move my UA miles to A3? I have about 35k, enough for a cheap award but I was saving them and I want to continue building. I think it's called pooling.

Also, what is the consensus on other*A carriers recognizing A3 Gold. Do they usually give priority check in, security, lounge access, and boarding?

Most years, I fly a few thousand miles with UA/CO. UA/CO gives it's Silvers and Golds free Economy Plus, and unlimited domestic upgrades when available. Could A3 silver or gold get me that?
My home base is ORD so *G could go pretty far there...

Thanks in advance for your help!

I'm with United right now and trying to build miles. I just discovered A3's super low *G qualifications and realized that I might Make *G and will definitely get *S in 2012. Does it make sense to sign up and start posting my miles to A3 Is there anyway to move my UA miles to A3? I have about 35k, enough for a cheap award but I was saving them and I want to continue building. I think it's called pooling.

Also, what is the consensus on other*A carriers recognizing A3 Gold. Do they usually give priority check in, security, lounge access, and boarding?

Most years, I fly a few thousand miles with UA/CO. UA/CO gives it's Silvers and Golds free Economy Plus, and unlimited domestic upgrades when available. Could A3 silver or gold get me that?
My home base is ORD so *G could go pretty far there...

Thanks in advance for your help!

I believe you have all the links on the first message of this topic but here are the links for *S and *G statuses with A3.

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/blue-card-privileges/

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/gold-card-privileges/

Both statuses offer you benefits that will be recognized by all *A companies, you will therefore have access to (*G as an example) lounges, have priority check-in using First or Business lanes, etc... etc...

Not sure about the free upgrades to "premium" Eco classes though.

What I'm doing is building my A3 account up to 20k then accrue the rest on KF (I'll be based in Singapore in 2 weeks).
Just make sure to always put enough miles on your A3 account to avoid your status expiring (3 years for *G).

Some might think that it's a "waste" of 20k miles but if what you want is a quick *S and *G status, then it's up to you to decide whether it's worth it or not.

Thanks for advice. I think I will do that. But am I able to just move all my UA miles to A3? I also have 2,000 with BD and no plans to build with BD, so they are basically useless. I want to move those to A3 as well. Is it at all possible to pool my UA and BD miles into a new A3 account?

Thanks for advice. I think I will do that. But am I able to just move all my UA miles to A3? I also have 2,000 with BD and no plans to build with BD, so they are basically useless. I want to move those to A3 as well. Is it at all possible to pool my UA and BD miles into a new A3 account?

Very few FF programs allow you to move your points around from one program to another... There are a couple (AA, BA, CO, CX, UA) that allow it, if you through www.points.com

I just transferred my 350 miles on CO to CX since I rarely fly CO, no point in keeping them there. Conversion rates are always a bit.... tough but still better than losing those precious points ;) I managed to get 208 miles at CX (Asia Miles). Better than nothing. That was free of charge but there are a few transfers that require a service fee...

https://www.points.com/pdccontent/supportedprograms.html

Check that out but I think UA only allows a few possibilities...

I believe you have all the links on the first message of this topic but here are the links for *S and *G statuses with A3.

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/blue-card-privileges/

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/gold-card-privileges/

Both statuses offer you benefits that will be recognized by all *A companies, you will therefore have access to (*G as an example) lounges, have priority check-in using First or Business lanes, etc... etc...

Not sure about the free upgrades to "premium" Eco classes though.

What I'm doing is building my A3 account up to 20k then accrue the rest on KF (I'll be based in Singapore in 2 weeks).
Just make sure to always put enough miles on your A3 account to avoid your status expiring (3 years for *G).

Some might think that it's a "waste" of 20k miles but if what you want is a quick *S and *G status, then it's up to you to decide whether it's worth it or not.
It is exactly what I have been doing as I do not fly enough to make M&M senator (although I would have been close this year). But how do you actually keep your *G status with A3? Their terms & conditions are quite vague in this respect. The only two relevant remarks I could find were (under the "GOLD card" section of their terms & conditions):

3. Each Card is personal, non-transferable, non-assignable and bears the name of the Member who holds it. The Card remains property of AEGEAN at all times and AEGEAN reserves the right to withdraw or cancel and/or replace it with a Card of the same or different level.
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5. Member Cards and their Passwords will be cancelled within 36 months if no flight activity is recorded in their Accounts.

Does this mean that you only need to make a flight or two every 36 months to retain gold status? That sounds a bit odd.

But - now that I am *G with A3 - the "My account" section of the online information only shows total number of tier miles and total number of award miles, where it used to show expiration dates for tier miles before I turned gold.

It is exactly what I have been doing as I do not fly enough to make M&M senator (although I would have been close this year). But how do you actually keep your *G status with A3? Their terms & conditions are quite vague in this respect. The only two relevant remarks I could find were (under the "GOLD card" section of their terms & conditions):

3. Each Card is personal, non-transferable, non-assignable and bears the name of the Member who holds it. The Card remains property of AEGEAN at all times and AEGEAN reserves the right to withdraw or cancel and/or replace it with a Card of the same or different level.
[...]
5. Member Cards and their Passwords will be cancelled within 36 months if no flight activity is recorded in their Accounts.

Does this mean that you only need to make a flight or two every 36 months to retain gold status? That sounds a bit odd.

But - now that I am *G with A3 - the "My account" section of the online information only shows total number of tier miles and total number of award miles, where it used to show expiration dates for tier miles before I turned gold.

What you're referring to (the 36 months without any activity) is the cancellation rule. Meaning: Aegean will cancel your M&B membership (and not just your status) if there are no activity during 36 months on your account.

There is no clear statement about requalification requirements... just read the first 5 pages of this thread and you'll read different experiences. Most being that, for 2011, if you get a *G status, you will receive your Gold Card with a 3 year validity period on it... So I would imagine that it's valid for 3 years, no matter how much you fly afterwards? Or can they simply cancel your card after a year of no activity?


On another topic, to follow up on my previous message, I called SQ reservations office this afternoon and had my KF FF number replaced by my A3 number. No problems at all... except that when I said Aegean and spelled it out to the lady, she did not find it. I said "A3" and then she found it....

Does anyone still have problems booking or checking-in on other *A airlines using A3 M&B number?

I see here and there that a lot of airlines or check-in desks that don't even know A3 was part of *A. But since it's been a while now that they joined, I figured all their systems have been updated accordingly?

Any recent stories to share?

Recently, I flew ANA.
At check-in counter in HND, an agent can't register my A3 number when I showed her my A3 card. She told me that Aegean Airlines doesn't show in the system. Then I told her the airline code is "A3." Finally, she can register my A3 number and miles appeared in my A3 account 3-5 days later (I can't remember exactly).

I wonder if anybody has the answer:

If I take Air Malta operated flight with BMI codeshare, would this flight count for A3 statues miles?

Regards

seeing as Air Malta is not in Star Alliance, and mileage earnings on Star Alliance carriers are based on fare codes of the operating carrier (ie: the carrier actually flying the flight) in the case of codeshares, I think you'll earn no miles for the flight

If I take Air Malta operated flight with BMI codeshare, would this flight count for A3 statues miles?
Regards

No.

i think its great to get G in such a short time, it was nerve recking to get the miles credited but when i saw the chg from S to Gold i jumped,, really nothing to complain

has anyone done an upgrade from y to C or to First with A3 miles? according to the mileage table you cannot upgr only full miles ticket

anyone has experience with A3 en US/UA flights?
How long would it take beofre A3 credits them ?

As I will qualify fore gold this month and 2 days later I have a flight to Singapore and I would love to be able to use the lounges etc

anyone has experience with A3 en US/UA flights?
How long would it take beofre A3 credits them ?

As I will qualify fore gold this month and 2 days later I have a flight to Singapore and I would love to be able to use the lounges etc

US flights usually post in 48-72 hours.

A3 send status updates to the other Star Alliance carriers once a week (I believe on Friday or Saturday). Highly unlikely that you get it on your outbound but you should be golden for your return.

US flights usually post in 48-72 hours.

A3 send status updates to the other Star Alliance carriers once a week (I believe on Friday or Saturday). Highly unlikely that you get it on your outbound but you should be golden for your return.

If you take a printout of your account screen on Aegean's website, they sometimes let you into the lounges.

i think its great to get G in such a short time, it was nerve recking to get the miles credited but when i saw the chg from S to Gold i jumped,, really nothing to complain

Please post an update when you get your Gold card regarding the expiry date.

Thanks

Wow, just flew SQ on Friday morning, European time, landed Saturday morning Singapore time and my miles have already been credited to my A3 account ^^^

Do any FT'ers know if United T fares earn a minium of 500 Aegean miles and tier points for a short 180 mi flight or 50% of 500 miles (250miles)?

I think BMI does the whole 50% of 500 thing but not sure what Aegean does.

Do any FT'ers know if United T fares earn a minium of 500 Aegean miles and tier points for a short 180 mi flight or 50% of 500 miles (250miles)?

I think BMI does the whole 50% of 500 thing but not sure what Aegean does.

It's a minimum of 500 miles. Even a short flight gets you 500 miles.

I've flown UA S Class from ORD-IND-CLT and received 500 miles for each of the sectors (ORD - IND and IND - CLT).

Sorry if this is a dupe, a search didn't turn anything up that fit.

I'm flying on UA14 in Z (discounted business) class later this year. The flight is operated by CO, but I'm ticketed as a UA flight number.

Z accrues on A3 at 100% for CO flights, and 200% for UA flights.

The A3 website has language that says 'Earn miles when flying with any Star Alliance partners’ operated flights.'

Flight is operated by CO, but I'm on a UA coded ticket.

(My admittedly optimistic hunch is the UA rate prevails because I'm on their flight number...but just a hunch.)

Anyone know which accrual rate I'd get?

Sorry if this is a dupe, a search didn't turn anything up that fit.

I'm flying on UA14 in Z (discounted business) class later this year. The flight is operated by CO, but I'm ticketed as a UA flight number.

Z accrues on A3 at 100% for CO flights, and 200% for UA flights.

The A3 website has language that says 'Earn miles when flying with any Star Alliance partners’ operated flights.'

Flight is operated by CO, but I'm on a UA coded ticket.

(My admittedly optimistic hunch is the UA rate prevails because I'm on their flight number...but just a hunch.)

Anyone know which accrual rate I'd get?

CO - but keep in mind that your CO booking class may be something other than Z...

I'm flying LX (Swiss) in September ORD-ZRH-TLV and if I get full mileage credit for the flight, I would make A3 Blue/Star Silver instantly. But I'm not really sure what the booking code is so I don't know if I will get full mileage accrual. Since I'm unsure, I think it might be safer to credit to my UA MP account.
The ticket is definitely not a Y code, and was booked on vayama.com if it helps.

I'm flying LX (Swiss) in September ORD-ZRH-TLV and if I get full mileage credit for the flight, I would make A3 Blue/Star Silver instantly. But I'm not really sure what the booking code is so I don't know if I will get full mileage accrual. Since I'm unsure, I think it might be safer to credit to my UA MP account.
The ticket is definitely not a Y code, and was booked on vayama.com if it helps.

I think it should be possible to check the flights details (booking class) when using: https://booking.swiss.com/web/pro.htm?WT.ac=mybookingHbox&WT.ad=mybookingHbox&tci=1310476349625

Manage your reservation: First/lastname, and either the Booking or e-ticket number (the last one you definitely got, right?)

Then it should allow you to "re-download" (thats what it says) your ticketed details, in where you should find your booking category. Thats at least how I got to know those details when using a TA who had no clue where I got booked into (yes, such people unfortunately exist, and I've to use them from time to time)

Please post an update when you get your Gold card regarding the expiry date.

Thanks



will do

I'm flying LX (Swiss) in September ORD-ZRH-TLV and if I get full mileage credit for the flight, I would make A3 Blue/Star Silver instantly. But I'm not really sure what the booking code is so I don't know if I will get full mileage accrual. Since I'm unsure, I think it might be safer to credit to my UA MP account.
The ticket is definitely not a Y code, and was booked on vayama.com if it helps.
Simple answer: YOU call your travel agent or call Swiss and ask them for the booking-class of your ticket. Then you open Aegean's Website (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS) to check how many miles you get credited...

Collecting miles with A3 Miles&Bonus on SQ/US/UA/CO was no Problem. The miles have been credited within 1-2 days. Status also changed and was displayed automatically on the bording-passes. A retroactive credit of an AC flight took about 7 days to be credited.

Since there seems to be more and more Golds on A3, can you share your experiences with ie getting into lounges and/or checking-in extra bags around Europe, Asia and Americas. Other questions:

Any issues anyone had so far?
Did anyone score an upgrade due to status with partner airlines?
Any *G privileges that are not always taken into account with operating carrier...

Thanks for the feedback in advance.

Since there seems to be more and more Golds on A3, can you share your experiences with ie getting into lounges and/or checking-in extra bags around Europe, Asia and Americas. Other questions:

Any issues anyone had so far?
Did anyone score an upgrade due to status with partner airlines?
Any *G privileges that are not always taken into account with operating carrier...

Thanks for the feedback in advance.

Haven't had any op-ups (yet) flying AC, US, LX. Although I have definitely been receiving more personalized attention. On a recent ZRH-YUL flight the FA addressed me as Mr. DLinYUL the entire flight. Earlier this week flying YUL-LHR on AC the FA came to tell me that there was an open row of 3 seats and that if I wanted to move I should do so quickly. Both times I thanked them for the special attention and was told they saw on the passenger manifest that I am a *G and therefore took extra good care of me.

No major problems with lounges but some agents in North America have never heard of Aegean and so it is a very good idea to travel with your Gold card.

...No major problems with lounges but some agents in North America have never heard of Aegean and so it is a very good idea to travel with your Gold card.Had a very warm welcome in both SFO and, especially, HNL. At the latter UA lounge, not only they had never heard of A3, I even was the agents' first Greek guest!

Hi,

Having never bothered to learn more about any frequent flyer program, I joined the Swiss M&M membership but with my travelling I will never be able to qualify for the *G status.

1) Does M&B require to fly a number of times with A3 in order to qualify

2) When reaching 4 000 points and *S membership, do we have the same benefits that a normal M&M Silver? (lounge Access, priority tags,…)

3) I am flying from GVA to BKK with LX and according to the miles calculator (on M&M website) I can expect between 10-12’000 miles. As the number of miles required for M&B is considerably lower, will I get the same amount of miles?

4) Would you suggest collecting points on this scheme or only to get the *S or *G status?

5) Are the redemption of miles the same with other programs?

6) Any others comment on this program?

Many Thanks for your help.

I'll try a few.

1. No.

2. Largely, Star Alliance Silver members only get benefits with the airline issuing their card. Therefore with A3 Blue (*S) you will NOT get lounge access when flying LH/LX/BD/TG/TK/SQ/whatever. And I don't think A3 gives lounge access to its own *S customers even when you're flying with it.

4. The only point I am aware of for putting points into A3 is to get A3*G at 20,000 miles :)

3. Per http://www.milecalc.com, GVA-BKK on LX gets you 5,763 base miles each way. You didn't mention your class of travel, but according to http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS lowest booking classes TEKL get 50% miles, while YB get 150%, other economy get 100%, 200% for business, and 300% for first. If you do GVA-BKK return in J, that's A3 gold right away.

Bearing in mind A3 gold takes fewer miles than M&L frequent traveller, I don't think it's too sad that A3 blue doesn't get lounge access :)

Hi,

Having never bothered to learn more about any frequent flyer program, I joined the Swiss M&M membership but with my travelling I will never be able to qualify for the *G status.

1) Does M&B require to fly a number of times with A3 in order to qualify

2) When reaching 4 000 points and *S membership, do we have the same benefits that a normal M&M Silver? (lounge Access, priority tags,…)

3) I am flying from GVA to BKK with LX and according to the miles calculator (on M&M website) I can expect between 10-12’000 miles. As the number of miles required for M&B is considerably lower, will I get the same amount of miles?

4) Would you suggest collecting points on this scheme or only to get the *S or *G status?

5) Are the redemption of miles the same with other programs?

6) Any others comment on this program?

Many Thanks for your help.

1) No

2) No - FTL is one of the hardest *S to get, and thus the LH group does give it more stuff like lounge access. Only *G will have alliance-wide lounge access.

3) Check the booking class you're booked into.

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS

4) It depends.. Aegean has some nice earning ratios, especially low LX classes which are only earning 125 miles on M&M do earn 500 miles on A3. The program isn't too bad regarding redemption either, if you want to use your miles on other carriers like TG.

5) Yes

6) It's all fine, but of course might be adjusted just as M&M keeps being adjusted (mostly made worse)

4) Would you suggest collecting points on this scheme or only to get the *S or *G status?



I'm 19,000 miles into this but am a bit apprehensive about making this my carrier of choice for accumulation.

What concerns me is the flexibility to redeem. Among other things, I believe A3 has rules which require all international awards to be booked 14 days prior and they allow no changes to award tickets once issued. (This is what I've read; if I'm wrong on either, could someone please advise!) Neither of these are attractive features.

What I'm planning to do is get up to 25k with A3 (20k should get me gold though 2014) and then try to redeem for a free economy ticket in the States or Canada for my mother and see how that goes. She's very flexible about travel, and her plans rarely change once tickets are set. So, I will basically do a dry run to see how it goes on a redemption. If it goes well, then I may reconsider.

Otherwise, I will accumulate with either ac or BMI.

2) No - FTL is one of the hardest *S to get, and thus the LH group does give it more stuff like lounge access. Only *G will have alliance-wide lounge access.

What I find odd is that M&L FTL grants lounge access for the cardholder only when flying an M&L integrated airline, whereas BD*S gives cardholder+guest when on BD. (And A3 Blue gives no access at all, although I can't really advise complaining about that.)

I received my gold card and baggage tag today, this time it only took around a month after my qualifying flight until the card arrived (vs. two months for the blue card). ^


today its just over 1 mts since the qualification to gold//how much longer do you think i should wait ?
whats the validity of the card?

Thanks for all your replies.


3) I will be flying in S and Q (no enough money for higher :P ) which according to the Aegean table will give me 100% of the miles flown.

GVA – ZRH – BKK – ZRH – GVA should give me 12 264 miles + the welcome miles. I would only need 7000 miles in 12 month to be gold. Sounds good.


My concern was that the miles were credited at 100% and not less like the JK program which only needs 10 000 points for *G but you don’t get the full amount of miles and only valid for one year.

http://portal.spanair.com/web/upload/14882/guiadeltitular_63%20ENG_170611.pdf Page 5


So I guess this is the most interesting program is only flying 20 – 25k a year ? There seem to be a lot of concerns about receiving the card? What is the worst bit of this FTL?

What I find odd is that M&L FTL grants lounge access for the cardholder only when flying an M&L integrated airline

Sorry stifle, but this is wrong information. M&M (I know you like to call it Less, but let's stick to the real names for now not to disorient others) FTL status let you access the designated M&M lounges in the LH/LX/(and the other airlines under German rule) - for example, flying TG out of MUC, you'll have C lounge access, or flying SQ out of ZRH, you get access to C and Panorama lounges. Or did I understood your posting incorrectly?

Sorry stifle, but this is wrong information. M&M (I know you like to call it Less, but let's stick to the real names for now not to disorient others) FTL status let you access the designated M&M lounges in the LH/LX/(and the other airlines under German rule) - for example, flying TG out of MUC, you'll have C lounge access, or flying SQ out of ZRH, you get access to C and Panorama lounges. Or did I understood your posting incorrectly?

Well my emphasis was on the lack of guest access, but you are correct that FTL gives you access to LH/LX/etc. lounges when you fly with any *A airline, which is a bit better than most *S.

quick question:

priority check-in on an A3 flight with A3 blue ???

since with LH, you get that privilege with FTL

quick question:

priority check-in on an A3 flight with A3 blue ???

since with LH, you get that privilege with FTL

No priority check-in for A3 Blue. All you get is here:

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/benefits/blue-card-privileges/

How does mileage accrual work on A3, do you get the exact amount of miles, or do they round up to an even hundred (i.e you get 1400 if the distance is between 1301 and 1400 miles)?

How does mileage accrual work on A3, do you get the exact amount of miles, or do they round up to an even hundred (i.e you get 1400 if the distance is between 1301 and 1400 miles)?

exact amount

Except on very short journeys, where there's a minimum of 500 miles before applying fare class weighting.

I qualified for Gold following a flight a couple of days ago - miles posted on 28.07 and status was upgraded to Gold today, 31.07. I have a flight coming up in a week on 06.08 flying NZ, and was wondering if my status is likely to be reflected in NZ's system that quickly? I won't have my Gold card obviously, and I'd hate to for example pack an additional bag and be told at the airport I can't check it in because they have no record of my status!

I qualified for Gold following a flight a couple of days ago - miles posted on 28.07 and status was upgraded to Gold today, 31.07. I have a flight coming up in a week on 06.08 flying NZ, and was wondering if my status is likely to be reflected in NZ's system that quickly? I won't have my Gold card obviously, and I'd hate to for example pack an additional bag and be told at the airport I can't check it in because they have no record of my status!

First of all, yes, it should be in the system by that time. To make sure you can profit from lounge access and other advantages of *G, better keep a printout of your status page from Aegean, and the printout from the "temporary card" (I'm not yet *G from A3, so I can only assume that they've a matching "temporary" card as for their non-status customers on your account page.

Hello!
I've booked an Austrian flight OS461 VIE-LHR some weeks ago. It was then operated by Austrain Airlines, today when I check my booking I can see it's now operated by Lauda Air, but still as OS461. As I can see on the Miles&Bonus page Lauda Air doesn't accure miles with Aegean Miles&Bonus. But it's still operated by Austrian, and I orginally bought a flight with Austrian.

Do any of you knowledgable people know if that flight OS461 operated by Lauda Air will accure miles to my Aegean Miles&Bonus account.

In advance thanks!

Hello!
I've booked an Austrian flight OS461 VIE-LHR some weeks ago. It was then operated by Austrain Airlines, today when I check my booking I can see it's now operated by Lauda Air, but still as OS461. As I can see on the Miles&Bonus page Lauda Air doesn't accure miles with Aegean Miles&Bonus. But it's still operated by Austrian, and I orginally bought a flight with Austrian.

Do any of you knowledgable people know if that flight OS461 operated by Lauda Air will accure miles to my Aegean Miles&Bonus account.

In advance thanks!

You booked a regular OS flight, so it will be treated for M&S just as a regular OS flight, just operated by another carrier. No worries. LX does this, for example, for quite some time with the Fokker100's from Helvetic.. if it's an OSXXX (or LXXXX) then it's miles as usual.

Thanks for a fast and (for me) good answer. I think my BP dropped some levels now :)
Have a good day YuropFlyer!

I qualified for Gold following a flight a couple of days ago - miles posted on 28.07 and status was upgraded to Gold today, 31.07. I have a flight coming up in a week on 06.08 flying NZ, and was wondering if my status is likely to be reflected in NZ's system that quickly? I won't have my Gold card obviously, and I'd hate to for example pack an additional bag and be told at the airport I can't check it in because they have no record of my status!

Master AN*G was in a similar situation 3 weeks ago. A3 upgraded to *G, and domestic flight on NZ 2 days later. On check-in NZ BP showed A3*S. Got them to delete the number, re-enter the number, and reprint the BP. Reprinted BP showed A3*G.

A3 is pretty quick in showing mileage accruals from other companies so far... I flew a few times with SQ and the miles always showed up on my A3 account 1 business day later. Good one A3!

Also, I noticed that when I boarded in SIN, my boarding pass would show "A3*S" but from TPE, it only shows "A3". So better take a printout with you if you don't have your card yet.

Still waiting on my *S card, they updated my status on July 3rd I think... Patience patience

Anybody received any cards in the last days?

Mi Status changed on JUL 1st, but no mail so far...

Hello there,

I'm planning to make a run for A3's *G status. However there are a few questions I need answered, so please bear with me:

1. What happens if I book a flight that'll "overqualify" me for *S. I.e I still need 3K for Blue, so if I book a flight that'll bring in 4K what'll happen to those extra 1K tier miles. Will they be added to the next level i.e that I'll only need 15K for gold, or will they vanish?

2. Does the status really last 3 years?

3. Do I get 1K or 2K per sector on SWISS EU J class? Also do LH Italia Flights in J qualify for milage?

Thanks a lot!
1) unclear, but it seems so
2) unclear but it seems so
3) 200% mileage, 1000 mile minimum for Swiss
As for LH Italia, I'd assume so since they are in *A, but they ARE closing in less than 3 months ;)

any miles above that you need to qualify for *S will roll over to qualification for *G

3a. Why don't you check it by yourself on www.aegeanair.com (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS) ?
3b. LH Italy flights are sold under the LH code. Therefore you should get mileage credit as on a regular 'LH' flight..

I have checked on their website, but couldn't really figure out how they meant. I did however do a calculation of webflyer. For instance ARN-ZRH 1K miles + J class bonus 200% equals 2K miles for that sector. At least that's what I got it to. Perhaps I should call the airline.

I have checked on their website, but couldn't really figure out how they meant. I did however do a calculation of webflyer. For instance ARN-ZRH 1K miles + J class bonus 200% equals 2K miles for that sector. At least that's what I got it to. Perhaps I should call the airline.

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/

Direct link for Swiss earnings: http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS

Easy to find online.. definitely no need to call the airline for that!

Business Class ( J, C, D, Z, P )

Accrual Factor 200%

Minimum miles 1000


That means for flights under 500 miles, you get 1000 miles. For flights over 500 miles, you get milage amount*2

Distance is 925 miles, gives you 1950 miles on Aegean, no matter what status you've.

In this case, from pure milage earning, M&M would be better (2000, or 2500 when at least FTL) - but not by that much, if you want to become *G on A3.

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/

Direct link for Swiss earnings: http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS

Easy to find online.. definitely no need to call the airline for that!

Business Class ( J, C, D, Z, P )

Accrual Factor 200%

Minimum miles 1000


That means for flights under 500 miles, you get 1000 miles. For flights over 500 miles, you get milage amount*2

Distance is 925 miles, gives you 1950 miles on Aegean, no matter what status you've.

In this case, from pure milage earning, M&M would be better (2000, or 2500 when at least FTL) - but not by that much, if you want to become *G on A3.

No...
Whenever I fly on US Shuttle in First, I get 750 miles...

I think they take whatever the mileage amount that Swiss normally credits for Y and multiplies by the accrual factor...

No...
Whenever I fly on US Shuttle in First, I get 750 miles...

I think they take whatever the mileage amount that Swiss normally credits for Y and multiplies by the accrual factor...

I'm not sure what you mean with US Shuttle? Do you mean US Airways?

If so, I assume you take a short (under 500 miles) flight, which will be having a 150% minimum earning (What you call "First" is merely by name, intra-american "First" class is more like C in the rest of the world. (from point of service, I mean.. after all, what kind of "First" product it is when you don't get any lounge access with it? And free upgrades into it.. the US-American domestic "first" product is completely different from what first class really is about. That's why A3 is treating US "first" in the exactly same way as US Business, i.e. 150% milage (The free upgrades into first are considered as Y, which is perfectly fine for me - when you get an OP-UP, you also only get the miles from your original class)

Glad it wasn't just me that got impatient waiting for their card.

I gained *G in October 2010 and had to wait till near the end of January to receive my card from Aegean.

In the meantime, I flew from SYD-SIN-HKG with SQ and there proudly displayed on my boarding pass was my *G status. No asking for cards to enter their lounges,and received extra bag weight privilege and priority boarding.

Be glad this is one of the easiest FF *G's to get. If you cant be bothered in doing just a small amount of research before booking your flights to ensure you get miles.....well maybe you shouldnt be thinking of being a FF member with any airline.

Does anyone knows if you get miles credited with A3 for flights with Air Dolomiti (100% owned by Lufthansa), flight number LH 1849, and by Lufthansa Cityline - LH 2318.

Thank you.

Lufthansa Cityline yes. Air Dolomiti, no idea.

Does anyone knows if you get miles credited with A3 for flights with Air Dolomiti (100% owned by Lufthansa), flight number LH 1849, and by Lufthansa Cityline - LH 2318.

Thank you.

They both operate flights for Lufthansa under LH code, so yes for both

Alright dear Flyertalkers!

I, like many of you on this thread, am thinking of switching to A3 Miles and Bonus. My reasons are and obvious (and have been previously articulated in this thread): I have been a loyal Miles and More member for the last eight years and have never got anywhere close to *G. I have enjoyed the benefits of Silver status for the last three, but will not make it to 100k miles anywhere in the near future.

Miles and Bonus makes sense to me as the two most important aspects of *A status for me are increased luggage allowance and lounge access. Upgrades and awards are secondary as I usually like to wait and accumulate miles to spend on the absolute perfect/most exciting trip (putting the hard earned miles to best use).

I have read through the A3 Miles and Bonus Terms and Conditions, along with a lot of the information on this thread and am here to ask you guys: where is the catch?! In some respects, this program seems too good to be true. Here is what I have understood so far:

The Good

Incredibly low milage requirements to acheive *A status
Full *G privileges on 20k miles (I know, a repeat…I am just fascinated!)
Award milage levels (for spending) that are similar or even more favorable that Miles&More
Milage accural period is dependent on a start date and not the calendar year
Three year status validity (although people still seem unlcear about this)



The Bad

No upgrade awards (just full ticket awards)
Long processing periods for milage crediting from some carriers
Long delays in receiving membership card
Seemingly flaky customer service
Relatively restrictive booking class restrictions for earning milage*


*The last point is only really an issue if you are collecting miles to spend on award etc and not as much if you are acquiring status for lounge access and luggage allowance.

What do you guys think? Have I left anything obvious out? Are those of you who have achieved Gold status on Miles and Bonus happy with your experience so far?

Any guidance would be much appreciated. I have already signed up and have received my 1000 bonus miles. I have two itineraries coming up in the next three months which would easily get me to 20k+ (and, therefore, *G status), however, I am currently evaluating whether to leave Miles&More. I am also considering joining Asiana Club as an alternative, however, this would obviously take me longer to achieve *G.

Many thanks to all!

I just called the Aegean hotline and was given the following information about status validity:

As long as you keep your account active within the period of three years, you will keep your status. In other words, your status does not expire unless you have not used your account for more than three years.

This really cannot be true. It's like I am getting free money. Does anyone else have more information?

I just called the Aegean hotline and was given the following information about status validity:

As long as you keep your account active within the period of three years, you will keep your status. In other words, your status does not expire unless you have not used your account for more than three years.

This really cannot be true. It's like I am getting free money. Does anyone else have more information?

I'd suggest to not raise any attention to that topic. Read the T&C and be happy that the current practice seems to be more generous - but please don't spoil it by making them aware of it.

Unless, by flaky customer service, you refer to the delay in receiving the membership card and the long processing for miles earned with other partners, already listed under The Bad, I'd have to disagree: I've been flying A3 since they started, about 10 years ago if I remember correctly, and I've never experienced bad service, in any sense. This is definitely not the case with either the Skyteam airlines that I was flying before and expecially not with some of the *A partners, including the biiiiiig one. Of course, they're a small airline, so the statistics help them, but still...

I just called the Aegean hotline and was given the following information about status validity:

As long as you keep your account active within the period of three years, you will keep your status. In other words, your status does not expire unless you have not used your account for more than three years.

This really cannot be true. It's like I am getting free money. Does anyone else have more information?

I imagine your status will last until A3 goes out of business from paying lounge access fees from its growing array of *Gs using SEN lounges :rolleyes:

I imagine your status will last until A3 goes out of business from paying lounge access fees from its growing array of *Gs using SEN lounges :rolleyes:
This is actually something I never quite understood - I have always been told that the operating carrier pays for the lounge access, not the airline whose gold card you happen to have.
I would expect airlines like LH to start complaining to A3 to enforce higher qualification standards as soon as their passengers are flooding lounges with A3 *G cards.

Not disbelieving you, but that wouldn't seem to make a whole lot of commercial sense. Then again, it would seem to suggest that A3 has nothing to lose by giving *G for half the miles of LH*S...

Not disbelieving you, but that wouldn't seem to make a whole lot of commercial sense. Then again, it would seem to suggest that A3 has nothing to lose by giving *G for half the miles of LH*S...
Why don't we keep some of our thoughts to ourselves. We will definitely kick ourselves the day all this fun will end.....

With the rumors about possible upcoming MP program changes Mrs. EX and I signed up for this program yesterday. Looking forward to a wonderful and hopefully long lasting relationship. Will even fly them from FCO to Santorini^

I flew TK twice over the last 10 months (ATH-IST-ORD and back) and the miles posted after 3-4 days each time.

Thanks, I will give it a try.

Hello again wise people.
I was wondering if anyone of you have experinces with crediting flights from Austrian to Miles&Bonus? How long time will it take? I've had a lot of flight last weekend, and all of my LH and SK legs have posted, but not the Austrian legs. All flights were in Z-class, so they will give miles when credited to Miles&Bonus.

Have a fantastic weekend

I'm one flight short of reaching *G status, which I'm actually flying this Wednesday :) but one question popped in my mind...

I reach *G, fine. But how about all my future flights for which I will be using my KrisFlyer FF card (meaning, crediting SQ instead of A3)?
Can I just check-in at the Business class counter with a ticket which is booked under SQ but show my A3 card (or print out of my account until I get the physical card)? Will I get the luggage allowances as well?

Or does the flight NEED to be booked with A3 number in order to benefit all the advantages of *G?... which means I kinda wasted 20,000 miles to get *G.

I'm one flight short of reaching *G status, which I'm actually flying this Wednesday :) but one question popped in my mind...

I reach *G, fine. But how about all my future flights for which I will be using my KrisFlyer FF card (meaning, crediting SQ instead of A3)?
Can I just check-in at the Business class counter with a ticket which is booked under SQ but show my A3 card (or print out of my account until I get the physical card)? Will I get the luggage allowances as well?

Or does the flight NEED to be booked with A3 number in order to benefit all the advantages of *G?... which means I kinda wasted 20,000 miles to get *G.

Pardon me, but I think flying only 20k miles to obtain *G is never a waste. Once you reach the threshold with A3 all *A carriers will honor your *G status, regardless where you will credit your future flight miles. I am not sure if *A entitles you to check in at the SQ Business class counter unless you fly Business class with them and you did not let us know which class you are flying. You are entitled to *G benefits and if there are additional check in luggage weight benefits they of course would apply as well.
Enjoy your status!

I'm one flight short of reaching *G status, which I'm actually flying this Wednesday :) but one question popped in my mind...

I reach *G, fine. But how about all my future flights for which I will be using my KrisFlyer FF card (meaning, crediting SQ instead of A3)?
Can I just check-in at the Business class counter with a ticket which is booked under SQ but show my A3 card (or print out of my account until I get the physical card)? Will I get the luggage allowances as well?

Or does the flight NEED to be booked with A3 number in order to benefit all the advantages of *G?... which means I kinda wasted 20,000 miles to get *G.

I would suggest booking with the A3 number, then get the lounge dragons to put in the SQ number instead.

OK thanks. So I'm getting *G after this flight tonight from SIN to GVA.
Returning GVA to SIN on September 4th on SQ. I don't really care about priority check-in. What I care about is to get the extra 20kg allowance and access to the lounge in ZRH since I will have 3hrs to kill.

Regarding the extra 20kg allowance, it seems like I don't get to check an extra bag in, is this correct? The extra bag concept is "primarily applied on routes to and from North America only"? :( I'm moving my stuff from Switzerland to Singapore and being able to check 2x20kg would help a lot...

So the suggestion is: print out the summary page showing my *G status, change my returning SQ reservation to A3 and check-in with A3 so that my status will hopefully show on my boarding pass. Then have the staff at the lounge (or at boarding gate) to change my FF number back to SQ so that my miles get credited to KF?

OK thanks. So I'm getting *G after this flight tonight from SIN to GVA.
Returning GVA to SIN on September 4th on SQ. I don't really care about priority check-in. What I care about is to get the extra 20kg allowance and access to the lounge in ZRH since I will have 3hrs to kill.

Regarding the extra 20kg allowance, it seems like I don't get to check an extra bag in, is this correct? The extra bag concept is "primarily applied on routes to and from North America only"? :( I'm moving my stuff from Switzerland to Singapore and being able to check 2x20kg would help a lot...

So the suggestion is: print out the summary page showing my *G status, change my returning SQ reservation to A3 and check-in with A3 so that my status will hopefully show on my boarding pass. Then have the staff at the lounge (or at boarding gate) to change my FF number back to SQ so that my miles get credited to KF?
Regarding the extra 20kg allowance, this is under the weight concept on SQ flights between ZRH and SIN. This means that you can check in as many bags as you like as long as the total weight does not go over 40kg, so you can also have 2x10kg and 1x20kg if you like.

By the way, in my experience SQ is very flexible with their allowances, I have checked in up to 7kg too much with them and they never ever said a word about it.

Regarding the extra 20kg allowance, this is under the weight concept on SQ flights between ZRH and SIN. This means that you can check in as many bags as you like as long as the total weight does not go over 40kg, so you can also have 2x10kg and 1x20kg if you like.

By the way, in my experience SQ is very flexible with their allowances, I have checked in up to 7kg too much with them and they never ever said a word about it.

Thanks for the details. Not sure why I thought it was a piece concept and that i was only allowed 1 piece up to 20kg+20kg.

I know that they are not that regarding but the checkin agent in ZRH last time, pointed out that I was 3kg over (23kg) and that it's not allowed but that it's ok for this time :)

So I should maybe change that ZRH-SIN flight by editing my FF number from SQ to A3, it's safer this way? Or can I just show up at check-in with a print out of my status and request for my *G privileges? :)

Aegean should clean up their website a little bit now. The page of earing miles is just too much.There are too much old information there they should clean up. (e.g. the earning structure information under individual airlines. Some are before 2010.)

Aegean should clean up their website a little bit now. The page of earing miles is just too much.There are too much old information there they should clean up. (e.g. the earning structure information under individual airlines. Some are before 2010.)
Maybe you should first fly once to Greece and experience the way of life there... Then you would understand the 'disorder' of the A3 website... ;)

It really does not bother me, I find that almost all details needed were on their site! Much confortable to find your information as on many other airline site!

So I should maybe change that ZRH-SIN flight by editing my FF number from SQ to A3, it's safer this way? Or can I just show up at check-in with a print out of my status and request for my *G privileges? :)
If you want to be on the safe side for sure, then change your FQTV to A3. The *G code will then be in the SQ booking. After check-in you can still change your FQTV to SQ, if you want.

Aegean should clean up their website a little bit now. The page of earing miles is just too much.There are too much old information there they should clean up. (e.g. the earning structure information under individual airlines. Some are before 2010.)

How could the information be from prior to 2010? A3 joined *A only in the summer of 2010. I do agree that Greeks may be sort of "different" (see Air Rarotonga's reply), but I do think that you're exaggerating.

How could the information be from prior to 2010? A3 joined *A only in the summer of 2010. I do agree that Greeks may be sort of "different" (see Air Rarotonga's reply), but I do think that you're exaggerating.

Sorry I mean FROM 2010. My mistake.

Hi,
sorry for the simplistic post, but I'm flying CGK-SIN-FRA-BRU-EDI and return EDI-LHR-FRA-SIN-CGK in C class on LH soon. I've just made SQ G, but will possibly only just retain in - does it make sense to switch to A3 - is this flight enough to reach G status on A3? Thank you! I love flying SQ, but I just don't get the miserly point accrual...

Hi,
sorry for the simplistic post, but I'm flying CGK-SIN-FRA-BRU-EDI and return EDI-LHR-FRA-SIN-CGK in C class on LH soon. I've just made SQ G, but will possibly only just retain in - does it make sense to switch to A3 - is this flight enough to reach G status on A3? Thank you! I love flying SQ, but I just don't get the miserly point accrual...

Yes Yes Yes!!

SQ is giving 125% even for C!

You're absolutely right, SQ's KrisFlyer is one of the worst program for milage accrual in premium classes. They've their PPS program for it, which requires lots and lots of flying premium

If you're flying quite seldom (so won't make SEN or any other *G status on a top *A program which gives more benefits) then making A3 Gold is a very good idea. At least they give 200% on C for LH flights, just as M&M themselves. (Well, you get 25% more exec. bonus once you hold FTL status there, but that's it)

Aegean award chart is certainly not as generous as say BMI's but its still semi-decent in some areas- most notably 90K business from North America to Europe and North Africa. Their award availability is the same as all *A carriers in Starnet.

I didn't actually notice the intra-far east offer. It's pretty good ^. Thanks for pointing it out :)

I would suggest booking with the A3 number, then get the lounge dragons to put in the SQ number instead.

Interesting suggestion! This allows us to reap the benefits of Miles and Bonus Gold while still crediting miles to a program where you might already have a larger collection.

I am curious to see whether this would work!

Just as a data point. I signed up for Miles&Bonus account about a week prior to my planned TK C RT this weekend and neither at my departing airport (CGK) nor at IST for the return to SIN was TK staff able to get my A3 M+B number to be recognized. The system would reject it as invalid. And yes they put A3 in front of it as I have a print out from the TK system showing the A3 number properly entered into the FQTV field.

Not sure what the issue is as I can access the account online without much issues, so maybe the data hadn't yet replicated to the 'other' (*A) system? No idea, but it was a bit of a pain. Now I hope the retro claim will at least work well.

Just as a data point. I signed up for Miles&Bonus account about a week prior to my planned TK C RT this weekend and neither at my departing airport (CGK) nor at IST for the return to SIN was TK staff able to get my A3 M+B number to be recognized. The system would reject it as invalid. And yes they put A3 in front of it as I have a print out from the TK system showing the A3 number properly entered into the FQTV field.

Not sure what the issue is as I can access the account online without much issues, so maybe the data hadn't yet replicated to the 'other' (*A) system? No idea, but it was a bit of a pain. Now I hope the retro claim will at least work well.In 8 out of 8 TK flights I had no problems getting credit within a few days. I checked-in in ATH and ORD...

Yes Yes Yes!!

SQ is giving 125% even for C!

You're absolutely right, SQ's KrisFlyer is one of the worst program for milage accrual in premium classes. They've their PPS program for it, which requires lots and lots of flying premium

If you're flying quite seldom (so won't make SEN or any other *G status on a top *A program which gives more benefits) then making A3 Gold is a very good idea. At least they give 200% on C for LH flights, just as M&M themselves. (Well, you get 25% more exec. bonus once you hold FTL status there, but that's it)

I didn't actually notice the intra-far east offer. It's pretty good ^. Thanks for pointing it out :)

Yep. This is now a better deal than UA MP/CO OP! Does anyone have any experience with YQ surcharges on A3 MB redemptions?

Interesting suggestion! This allows us to reap the benefits of Miles and Bonus Gold while still crediting miles to a program where you might already have a larger collection.

I am curious to see whether this would work!

I don't like it when people do this - If you are gonna make A3 pay for your lounge acess, at least be considerate enough to credit the flight to them (for the good of the company and the good of your fellow passengers who like the insanely low qualification levels)

If people start to abuse this, they'll make it harder to become an elite...

I think it's only a matter of time before A3 starts being landed with huge lounge bills and does a hatchet job on M&B. Enjoy while it lasts.

I don't like it when people do this - If you are gonna make A3 pay for your lounge acess, at least be considerate enough to credit the flight to them (for the good of the company and the good of your fellow passengers who like the insanely low qualification levels)

If people start to abuse this, they'll make it harder to become an elite...

That might just even itself out, people change programs constantly so they will do the suggested last-minute swap all the time. For example I check in with LH SEN right now and change to A3 at the gate, hence the reverse as the OP. Btw: works flawlessly except for the risk of a very busy annoyed gate agent - you might prefer to do it when leaving the lounge. If you do it last minute at the gate it helps a lot to have the proper card where you want to credit the miles to, somehow this seems to be less confusing for the agents than a paper note with the number.

First of all, nobody knows how lounge access is charged or credited within *A.
It makes sense to assume that a carrier like A3 with only a few lounges has a different agreement compared to like LH with tons of lounges. To assume that A3 will be close to insolvency due to lounge access at other *A carriers just makes no sense. How many lounges does Spanair have, or come to think of it even AC? SK, BMI, who else? If it is a problem with lounges, I would assume that UA would have kept their FRA lounge. Just saying....

I check in with LH SEN right now and change to A3 at the gate...

I'm glad to hear this works. I have a trip next year, LAX-SFO-HKG on UA and HKG-IST-LAX on TK. Right now my UA MP# is on the two itineraries. I plan to change both itineraries to credit A3 before traveling, and as the SFO-HKG segment would only accrue 50% on A3, I can switch to my MP# just before that seg.

I am crediting four TG flights this fall to A3 and on the trip I mention above I will have a nested RT IST-ATH on A3. The trip will put me over 20K on A3.

Speaking of swapping numbers after check-in: I also had a op-up during check-in at the airport recently (LH SEN number on the booking) - swapping the FQTV to A3 at the lounge was no problem at all.

Sorry but what's the intra-far east offer here? I don't see their intra-far east redemption rate particularly good.

Long time lurker here, with a problem about my SQ flight which did not credit to my A3 account after I flew.

Therefore, I have been trying to claim my 22 Aug SIN-IAH trip using the online form, but to little avail: they just won't accept Singapore - Changi (from the dropdown options) as a valid Departure point. I used Seletar/Paya Lebar airports instead, but their airport codes are vastly different. I have not heard from Aegean yet after filling out the electronic form with the other codes, what do you think I should do?

Cross my fingers still?

Question.
What happens when you complete a year?
How many tier points go to waste?
Do you start all over again?

My year is ending on September 6th. I got around 4000 miles on that day last year. "Award Wallet" shows me, that only 488 tier miles are expiring!? Does that make sense?

RDMs don't expire for elites.
EQMs start over every year.

Don't get it.
Does that mean that if I'm four hundred miles away from twenty thousand that I start from 0 again?

Question.
What happens when you complete a year?
How many tier points go to waste?
Do you start all over again?

My year is ending on September 6th. I got around 4000 miles on that day last year. "Award Wallet" shows me, that only 488 tier miles are expiring!? Does that make sense?

To gain status you need to earn 4000 or 20000 status qualifying miles in a one year period. Thus as "tier points" miles a 1 year lifespan - if you haven't used them, you lose them 1 year after you received them. Of course, you don't lose those same miles for award booking.

When you go up a elite status level, the points required are "used" and so can not expire. I'm guessing either you earned 3488 miles 1 year ago - then 3000 miles plus the 1000 bonus miles were "used" to give you *A silver status, leaving 488 unused miles to expire (as far as elite qualification) after one year. Or that trip took you to 20488 EQM and so 20000 were used to for *A Gold.

None of this affects your actual mileage balance and it appears that you just have to credit some miles every year to maintain elite status.

Thanks!

Long time lurker here, with a problem about my SQ flight which did not credit to my A3 account after I flew.

Therefore, I have been trying to claim my 22 Aug SIN-IAH trip using the online form, but to little avail: they just won't accept Singapore - Changi (from the dropdown options) as a valid Departure point. I used Seletar/Paya Lebar airports instead, but their airport codes are vastly different. I have not heard from Aegean yet after filling out the electronic form with the other codes, what do you think I should do?

Cross my fingers still?

Well, if you have indicated in your on-line form non-existing flights (i.e. between an airport whose code happened to "work" and another city, with flight numbers corresponding to what you really flew) most probably they will do absolutely nothing. In other words, whether you cross your fingers while waiting or not you have more chances to see Godot arriving to you than your miles being credited. What I would suggest is that you either email them or fax them, including in both cases copies of your boarding cards. I don't suggest calling them, not because it wouldn't help, but because it might be expensive.

Which earning table is the correct one for flights on TK ?
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#TURKISH

in particular what does bc=A earn ?

I don't like it when people do this - If you are gonna make A3 pay for your lounge acess, at least be considerate enough to credit the flight to them (for the good of the company and the good of your fellow passengers who like the insanely low qualification levels)

If people start to abuse this, they'll make it harder to become an elite...

I think it's only a matter of time before A3 starts being landed with huge lounge bills and does a hatchet job on M&B. Enjoy while it lasts.

Part of the reason Aegean's thing works so well is that Star Gold's on Aegean statistically:

1. Do not fly very often
2. Never (or rarely) fly Aegean metal

Because they very rarely fly, their lounge bills aren't going to be great. And whatever lounge bills that they do rack up are offset by the payments Aegean gets from LH/UA/US/CO/whatever to pay for the miles being credited. It's a delicate balance there, and probably counter-intuitive, but the economics are in Aegean's favour.

Part of the reason Aegean's thing works so well is that Star Gold's on Aegean statistically:

1. Do not fly very often
2. Never (or rarely) fly Aegean metal

Because they very rarely fly, their lounge bills aren't going to be great. And whatever lounge bills that they do rack up are offset by the payments Aegean gets from LH/UA/US/CO/whatever to pay for the miles being credited. It's a delicate balance there, and probably counter-intuitive, but the economics are in Aegean's favour.

I agree completely, but that's precisely why I have such an issue with people using lounge with Aegean but not crediting - the balance cannot be achieved if A3 has to spend on lounge but they don't get their revenue..

What I seem to gather from this is that once you make *G, you just have to fly once every 3 years to retain *G? That there is no annual mileage requirement?

Does one every have to fly on Aegean metal?

What I seem to gather from this is that once you make *G, you just have to fly once every 3 years to retain *G? That there is no annual mileage requirement?

Does one every have to fly on Aegean metal?

No requirement to fly A3 metal.

As fpr annual mileage requirement, there is no specific detail posted. The terms and conditions vaguely refer to the fact that your account must be "active"

What "active" means is anyones guess. It could mean that you need at least 1 flight a week, or it could mean you have to fly at least once every 3 years. I would guess that it's somewhere in the middle...

Hello,

Is there anyone with experience to report on flights with South African Airways posting to your A3 account ~ ie., do miles post automatically and if so roughly how long do they take to post?

Thanks in advance.

tb

No requirement to fly A3 metal.

As fpr annual mileage requirement, there is no specific detail posted. The terms and conditions vaguely refer to the fact that your account must be "active"

What "active" means is anyones guess. It could mean that you need at least 1 flight a week, or it could mean you have to fly at least once every 3 years. I would guess that it's somewhere in the middle...

Thanks

I agree completely, but that's precisely why I have such an issue with people using lounge with Aegean but not crediting - the balance cannot be achieved if A3 has to spend on lounge but they don't get their revenue..

Totally second that, with more and more people choosing Aegean to get the Gold Status and then not crediting their further miles to them i guess soon Aegean would find things going the tough way for them forcing them to re-think their FFP and change things around :(

Speaking of swapping numbers after check-in: I also had a op-up during check-in at the airport recently (LH SEN number on the booking) - swapping the FQTV to A3 at the lounge was no problem at all.

Just a little update on these FFT number changing at the gate.

It did not work for me. I made the booking and checked-in using my A3 *G status and asked the agent at the gate to change it to SQ. Which she did and said it was all good.

But the miles still got credited to my A3 account. No harm done but that's still 6000+ miles in the "wrong" account

For info, it was a ZRH-SIN flight on SQ.

to the people who succesfully enrolled with Aegean Airlines Bonusprogramm: How? I fill the two pages of forms, click submit and land on a empty page. I tried Firefox, Epiphany and Internet Explorer on different operating systems - no luck. Can someone confirm problems?

Here's the odd solution I found to the problem earlier this year: I switched the website's language to French and it worked just fine.

Even after registering and the lower threshold for *G, I've been associating all my flights with my Aeroplan membership... Maybe next year I'll do the switch.

Part of the reason Aegean's thing works so well is that Star Gold's on Aegean statistically:

1. Do not fly very often
2. Never (or rarely) fly Aegean metal

Because they very rarely fly, their lounge bills aren't going to be great. And whatever lounge bills that they do rack up are offset by the payments Aegean gets from LH/UA/US/CO/whatever to pay for the miles being credited. It's a delicate balance there, and probably counter-intuitive, but the economics are in Aegean's favour.
What about people using their A3 miles on other metal? A3 will have to pay for that. Of course, initially there will be much more collecting of miles than spending, but at some point a balance will be reached here.

Just a little update on these FFT number changing at the gate.

It did not work for me. I made the booking and checked-in using my A3 *G status and asked the agent at the gate to change it to SQ. Which she did and said it was all good.

But the miles still got credited to my A3 account. No harm done but that's still 6000+ miles in the "wrong" account

For info, it was a ZRH-SIN flight on SQ.
I have one of those coming up (ZRH-MNL via SIN with SQ) of which I credited the outbound flight already to my A3. Is it theoretically possible to credit the return to a different programme (M&M)?

Just a little update on these FFT number changing at the gate.

It did not work for me. I made the booking and checked-in using my A3 *G status and asked the agent at the gate to change it to SQ. Which she did and said it was all good.

But the miles still got credited to my A3 account. No harm done but that's still 6000+ miles in the "wrong" account

For info, it was a ZRH-SIN flight on SQ.

If your boarding pass contains your SQ FFP no. you can request A3 to delete the mileage from your account explaining the situation and once that is done you can get a retroactive claim to your SQ account.

I have one of those coming up (ZRH-MNL via SIN with SQ) of which I credited the outbound flight already to my A3. Is it theoretically possible to credit the return to a different programme (M&M)?

Yep very much possible use the FFP no you want the miles to be credited to at the time of your check-in.

Yep very much possible use the FFP no you want the miles to be credited to at the time of your check-in.
Thanks. In line with this another question. I recently took a ZDH-ZRH-DEL trip with LX, crediting miles to A3 M&B. However, I did not get the miles for the ZDH-ZRH leg of the trip.

ZDH is Basel Railway station, and that part of the trip is actually by train, but it has an LX flight number, and one does get miles for it with M&M. So my questions are:

1) Does anyone know if it should qualify for M&B miles as well? I could not enter it as a retro-claim with them as ZDH is not in their list of origins/destinations.

2) If not, can I retro-claim just these legs with M&M, although the ZRH-DEL vice versa miles have been credited with M&B?

Not exactly sure if that will count as miles for M&B, best thing is to call them or email and ask them to file a retroactive claim. If that's not possible then claim that leg of your journey on a program that allows you to do so. No mile should go waste :)

Thanks. In line with this another question. I recently took a ZDH-ZRH-DEL trip with LX, crediting miles to A3 M&B. However, I did not get the miles for the ZDH-ZRH leg of the trip.

ZDH is Basel Railway station, and that part of the trip is actually by train, but it has an LX flight number, and one does get miles for it with M&M. So my questions are:

1) Does anyone know if it should qualify for M&B miles as well? I could not enter it as a retro-claim with them as ZDH is not in their list of origins/destinations.

2) If not, can I retro-claim just these legs with M&M, although the ZRH-DEL vice versa miles have been credited with M&B?

The operator of the "flight" must be an airline partner in *A. Unless the trail system you used is an A3 partner, no miles for it.

The reason that you would get M&M miles is because LX (and therefore all of M&M) are partners with the train company - codeshares count as partnerships.

Even in M&M, it's only RDMs though, not EQMs.

I recently signed up for Aegean Airlines Miles and Bonus and i'm well on my way to getting Gold status in record time! Just after a return flight from SFO to Philadelphia and then a return to Portland, i'm just under halfway to 16k. ;)

Hoping to reach Gold before I book a trip to Sydney later in the year. Which brings me to another question...

It seems that I don't have many Star Alliance options traveling from SFO to SYD. I really don't want to travel on UA 747, which from what i've read has terrible entertainment and service in economy. From what I can see all other Star Alliance partners use UA for their flights. (Really would like to try Air New Zealand again).

Would anyone have any suggestions on better choices?

Thanks,
Patrick.

I recently signed up for Aegean Airlines Miles and Bonus and i'm well on my way to getting Gold status in record time! Just after a return flight from SFO to Philadelphia and then a return to Portland, i'm just under halfway to 16k. ;)

Hoping to reach Gold before I book a trip to Sydney later in the year. Which brings me to another question...

It seems that I don't have many Star Alliance options traveling from SFO to SYD. I really don't want to travel on UA 747, which from what i've read has terrible entertainment and service in economy. From what I can see all other Star Alliance partners use UA for their flights. (Really would like to try Air New Zealand again).

Would anyone have any suggestions on better choices?

Thanks,
Patrick.

You can try Asian carriers, but that will add some time to the itinerary.

So TG, SQ, NZ, and UA are your realistic options.

CO if you want to fly through HNL/GUM/Cairns

It seems that I don't have many Star Alliance options traveling from SFO to SYD. I really don't want to travel on UA 747, which from what i've read has terrible entertainment and service in economy. From what I can see all other Star Alliance partners use UA for their flights. (Really would like to try Air New Zealand again).

Would anyone have any suggestions on better choices?

Thanks,
Patrick.

How about Air Canada routing SFO-YVR-SYD?

For SFO-SYD i guess NZ would be the best suited. you can have a look at the UA product if you want to but it doesn't matches any of the product offered by either OZ or SQ on this route (but usually they are the cheapest)

If your boarding pass contains your SQ FFP no. you can request A3 to delete the mileage from your account explaining the situation and once that is done you can get a retroactive claim to your SQ account.

Well all my boarding passes show the SQ number, preceded by "A3*G".

I'll still give it a try and contact A3 to delete the mileage and then claim them on SQ... I guess I don't have much to lose (except the mileage getting lost in limbo after being deleted from A3 and never being credited to SQ haha).

If your pass shows the SQ FFP no then I don't think there should be any problem, you just need keep pushing from your end a bit :)

No, A3 operates on a mileage year basis, not a calendar year basis. No harm in letting it slip into 2012

Ahh okay, as I thought. Thanks for confirming.

ask gold agent he has an answer,
take AC/UA codeshare to YVR from SFO and nonstop on AC to SYD hope this helps

or NZ nonstop to AKL and on to SYD