JetBlue TrueBlue - B6 is reintroduces nonstop from JFK/BOS-LAX this Spring 2009




N830MH
Jan 28, 09, 9:24 pm
Hi all,

B6 is reintroduces service from JFK/BOS-LAX in the this spring 2009. Because it was reason why from last spring 2008 due to high cost of the fuel. So it will be operate in the terminal 6 at LAX. Here press releases from B6. It will have announced tomorrow morning. Here it is:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-jetblue29-2009jan29,0,3445743.story

Thanks all.

Regards


UNITED833
Jan 28, 09, 10:06 pm
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Great News! Happy to hear that customers in the Boston and New York Areas will have a new option when flying to LAX. Wondering how AA UA and VA will react. Hopefully it results in better fares and superior service. Good luck JetBlue wish you the best.

N830MH
Jan 28, 09, 10:18 pm
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Great News! Happy to hear that customers in the Boston and New York Areas will have a new option when flying to LAX. Wondering how AA UA and VA will react. Hopefully it results in better fares and superior service. Good luck JetBlue wish you the best.

I think you meant VX but, not even VA is V Australia.


aaron1262
Jan 28, 09, 10:31 pm
hopefully it will actually start this time!

N830MH
Jan 28, 09, 10:52 pm
hopefully it will actually start this time!

Yeah, I agree. I think it will be getting better for those days. I think B6 need to be stepped it up more new cities for this year in 2009. What about BNA & CMH isn't coming back?

MrPresident1776
Jan 28, 09, 11:23 pm
Interesting.. I wonder if they'll add flights from LAX to cities that used to have nonstop service like Raleigh Durham or White Plains. Pittsburgh and New Orleans also have few decent nonstop options.

JAX2BOS
Jan 28, 09, 11:34 pm
Interesting.. I wonder if they'll add flights from LAX to cities that used to have nonstop service like Raleigh Durham or White Plains. Pittsburgh and New Orleans also have few decent nonstop options.

White Plains used to have LAX service?! On who?

JetBlueFA
Jan 29, 09, 12:05 am
An interesting turn of events. I just read somewhere that we weren't planning on starting up LAX. Guess I've just learned not to put too much faith into what I read online.

Good for LAX travelers. I do believe this all stems from VX's plans to launch BOS-SFO and BOS-LAX. We reinstated BOS-SFO what, a day after VX's announcement? Something tells me the folks in Forest Hills aren't to fond of the folks in Burlingame.

N830MH
Jan 29, 09, 12:23 am
White Plains used to have LAX service?! On who?

Nope.

caphis
Jan 29, 09, 9:04 am
Press Release now available online (http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131045&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1249847&highlight=).

New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) New York (JFK)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
9:00 a.m. - 11:53 a.m. 12:50 p.m. - 9:29 p.m.
6:55 p.m. - 10:12 p.m. 11:05 p.m. - 7:23 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --



Boston (BOS) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) Boston (BOS)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
10:45 a.m. - 1:52 p.m. * 2:45 p.m. - 11:16 p.m. *
7:55 p.m. - 11:07 p.m. 11:59 p.m. - 8:25 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --
* Flight does not operate on Saturdays

Seat13c
Jan 29, 09, 9:22 am
I know this is a route that B6 has been looking to do for a while. However, I'm wondering how financially profitable it will be. 3-4 transcons per day isn't exactly a high volume station. Although, its starting out better than other stations (PHX, ONT, SEA) did on the West Coast with just on evening flight with a red eye return.

hobo13
Jan 29, 09, 9:42 am
What mid-continent city will be the designated winter re-fueling stop? :D

caphis
Jan 29, 09, 10:04 am
What mid-continent city will be the designated winter re-fueling stop? :D

If the winds lately have been any predictor... EWR? ;)

sbm12
Jan 29, 09, 10:32 am
I know this is a route that B6 has been looking to do for a while. However, I'm wondering how financially profitable it will be. 3-4 transcons per day isn't exactly a high volume station. Although, its starting out better than other stations (PHX, ONT, SEA) did on the West Coast with just on evening flight with a red eye return.

Agreed, though I do like the timing that they've chosen for the flights. They went with relatively prime times for the flights.

I don't expect too many winter diversions westbound. They haven't had too many overall this year in general for the other transcons, I don't think.

BearX220
Jan 29, 09, 12:41 pm
I just don't understand this. Opening yet another west coast station with a thin schedule makes no sense to me. Especially when the dense competition on JFK and BOS guarantees depressed yield. Double-especially when LAX can't help but cannibalize LGB.

jetBlueNYFL
Jan 29, 09, 1:25 pm
What mid-continent city will be the designated winter re-fueling stop? :D

With 150 seats these days and somewhat lighter loads, transcon tech stops have not been common at all this winter.

jetBlueNYFL
Jan 29, 09, 1:28 pm
I just don't understand this. Opening yet another west coast station with a thin schedule makes no sense to me. Especially when the dense competition on JFK and BOS guarantees depressed yield. Double-especially when LAX can't help but cannibalize LGB.

JetBlue is not looking to be all things to all people in the LAX market. It was simply added to compliment its existing service in other soCal area airports, and as a result of demand fom loyal B6 customers. The capacity is just ideal to not over-saturate a market with a great deal of seats in each direction every day as is. Similar concept as entering ORD and SFO (major hubs/business routes/tons of capacity on other airlines). Additionally, the growing relationships with LH and EI probably added to this decision.

sbm12
Jan 29, 09, 2:46 pm
Additionally, the growing relationships with LH and EI probably added to this decision.

There was no indication in the call today that LH or EI had anything to do with the decision, unless you mean it was at the behest of the two LH execs who sit on the board of directors.

Yeah, it fills a gap, but I'd argue that the market is already saturated and has been for a while. Yields are likely to suck. They will be able to afford to do it because fuel has come down in price, but they are barely hedged at all going in to 2009 and if fuel prices go back up you can expect to see these routes shuttered in a hurry. Again.

Seat13c
Jan 29, 09, 2:48 pm
I just don't understand this. Opening yet another west coast station with a thin schedule makes no sense to me. Especially when the dense competition on JFK and BOS guarantees depressed yield. Double-especially when LAX can't help but cannibalize LGB.

Only thing I can think of is that there has been a lot of feed back from both Company Blue and Leisure passengers requesting LAX. Should be interesting see what effect this has on LGB's and BUR's PAX numbers.

JetBlueFA
Jan 29, 09, 2:54 pm
LAX has been the #1 or #2 most requested destination for the past couple of years

BearX220
Jan 29, 09, 3:18 pm
LAX has been the #1 or #2 most requested destination for the past couple of years Tokyo is my teenage son's #1 or #2 most requested destination for the past couple of years, and upon review of the family balance sheet, he ain't going there. :p

JetBlueFA
Jan 29, 09, 3:47 pm
Tokyo is my teenage son's #1 or #2 most requested destination for the past couple of years, and upon review of the family balance sheet, he ain't going there. :p

:D:D

Seat13c
Jan 29, 09, 4:26 pm
Tokyo is my teenage son's #1 or #2 most requested destination for the past couple of years, and upon review of the family balance sheet, he ain't going there. :p

Though he may not be happy about not going to his top spot, its better than the most requested spot for my boss to send me in Febuary... OMA and MSP on DL in Y. :mad::mad::mad: I feel a very cold, no, artic feeling month coming up...

MrPresident1776
Jan 29, 09, 8:52 pm
White Plains used to have LAX service?! On who?

Oops! I was thinking of Hartford, not White Plains. I used to live right between the two and used them both quite frequently.

N830MH
Jan 29, 09, 11:58 pm
Oops! I was thinking of Hartford, not White Plains. I used to live right between the two and used them both quite frequently.

:D:D

Mimi Imferst
Feb 5, 09, 2:25 pm
Let the fare war begin!!!

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-farewar5-2009feb05,0,4894418.story

$231 r/t all-in during summer peak season?!!? Guess who matched. After seeing their financials recently this may be the last thing VX wanted to see for Q3, 09.

PS. The video report graphics are great. Keep an eye on the Jetblue plane that never changes livery regardless of which airline is being discussed. :eek:

BearX220
Feb 7, 09, 11:27 am
VX isn't going to get any traction I'm afraid. Fly 'em while they last.

darben
Feb 7, 09, 8:28 pm
Lately Jet blues customer service ain't been to good with me specially the jerks at Kennedy airport who wouldn't help me when my flight from Dominican Republic was really late and I had a tight connection (which I missed). They gave me a cart to push my stuff to terminal 5 on. I have a bad hip and could hardly move. No help from any of the people at the international arrivals area and less help at the ticket counter.
Personally I hope they go belly up like so many other airlines that forget customer service.

Yea I am pissed I had to spend the night because of the asses I had to deal with.

jetBlueNYFL
Feb 7, 09, 10:57 pm
Lately Jet blues customer service ain't been to good with me specially the jerks at Kennedy airport who wouldn't help me when my flight from Dominican Republic was really late and I had a tight connection (which I missed). They gave me a cart to push my stuff to terminal 5 on. I have a bad hip and could hardly move. No help from any of the people at the international arrivals area and less help at the ticket counter.
Personally I hope they go belly up like so many other airlines that forget customer service.

Yea I am pissed I had to spend the night because of the asses I had to deal with.

Verry sorry to hear about your experience. But, is wishing that 12,000 additional people people loose their jobs in this economy the nicest thing? Believe it or not, but JetBlue is one of the most customer friendly airlines around these days.

darben
Feb 8, 09, 8:04 pm
Verry sorry to hear about your experience. But, is wishing that 12,000 additional people people loose their jobs in this economy the nicest thing? Believe it or not, but JetBlue is one of the most customer friendly airlines around these days.

I won't shed a tear if all jetblue employess lose their job its fine with me. I was treated like crap by some of the employees at Kennedy so I have no love or warm feelings for Jetblue employees. Those four people who did me a disservice are the ones I will remember they are the face of Jetblue (smiling as they do not help you) and are my impression of JetBlue service. I believe customer service does not exist from Jetblue.
Remember customer service is not a smile it is actually performing a service.

Jerseyguy
Feb 8, 09, 9:06 pm
How bout if I said that because of a few of your co-workers were extremely rude, I wish you and everybody at your company would lose their job. If you don't want to fly Jetblue ever again thats one thing, how ever if you wish that everyone loses their job thats over the line. Some people at Jetblue are working hard like the gate agent last September when I arrived at the gate 15 minutes after departure because of a backup on the Belt Parkway, she opened up the gate door, ran down the Jetway to open up a second door so that I wouldn't miss my flight. Luckily my flight was 20 minutes late but if she was lazy, she could have said "I'm sorry sir, it is after the scheduled departure time and the flight is closed".

Bottom line if you had bad service from a few people that doesn't mean that everybody should lose their jobs. Did you file a complaint with Jetblue customer service? You should let them know so they can keep an eye on people to make sure something like this doesn't happen again.

BearX220
Feb 8, 09, 10:25 pm
How bout if I said that because of a few of your co-workers were Luckily my flight was 20 minutes late but if she was lazy, she could have said "I'm sorry sir, it is after the scheduled departure time and the flight is closed". Which is exactly what would have happened at ATL or EWR. I don't think everyone on the front lines at B6 knows what they're doing, really, but I think the majority are at least trying. It's irrational to wish them all onto a breadline because of the mistakes of a few.

Seat13c
Feb 9, 09, 4:54 pm
Which is exactly what would have happened at ATL or EWR. I don't think everyone on the front lines at B6 knows what they're doing, really, but I think the majority are at least trying. It's irrational to wish them all onto a breadline because of the mistakes of a few.

That's what happened at OMA with me on a DL flight last week. 5 minutes later, I saw the gate agent standing line for her dinner.

Just remember, just because one or two people didn't go above and beyond for you, doesn't mean they're already several tasks deep already. If you have two customer who ask for help on different things, who do you help first (especially on tight schedules)?



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