JAL Mileage Bank - JAL 2009 Summer Overview: JAL Express goes Int'l




jiml1126
Jan 21, 09, 2:54 pm
The following are some of the planned changes for JAL 2009 Summer operation on international routes.

All data as of 21JAN09 (http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/01/jal-2009-summer-changes.html) Amadeus timetable display. Full details and additional changes may still occur until the airline reveals FY2009/10 operational plan in 2 - 3 weeks

For the first time, JAL Express (JC) will begin operating international routes on behalf of JAL, namely:


Tokyo Narita - Hangzhou
Tokyo Narita - Nagoya
Osaka Kansai - Shanghai Pu Dong



Tokyo Narita - Bangkok
Overall frequency is 2 Daily. 3rd Daily, JL703/704 cancelled (from 18JAN09)

JL717/718 744
JL707/708 777

Tokyo Narita - Denpasar
Daily 767-300 replace 747-400 from 29MAR09

Tokyo Narita - Hangzhou
Daily 737-800 service to be operated by JAL Express (JC) crew, effective 08MAY09

Tokyo Narita - Paris
3 weekly JL415/416 operated in Summer 08, is not operating in 09 Summer.

1 Daily 777-300ER

Tokyo Narita - Singapore
Aircraft change on JL719/710
744 29MAR09 - 30SEP09
77W 01OCT09 -

Tokyo Narita - Taipei
Aircraft change on JL647/642
744 29MAR09 - 31JUL09
767 01AUG09 -

Osaka Kansai - Shanghai Pu Dong


JL629/620, 737-800 service to be operated by JAL Express (JC) instead of JAL from 08MAY09
JL627/628, 737-800 replace 767-300 from 29MAR09, by JAL
JL793/794 remains 767 operation


Nagoya - Guangzhou
737-800 replace 767-300 from 29MAR09

Nagoya - Tokyo Narita
The NEW JL056/055 737-800 flight, to be operated by JAL Express (JC) crew


UPDATE ON 22JAN09
As per 22JAN09 Amadeus timetable display, JAL is shuffling schedules (http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/01/jal-changes-on-osaka-seoul-for-summer.html) on Osaka - Seoul Gimpo and Osaka - Seoul Incheon route

till 28MAR09
JL8965 KIX1300 - 1455GMP 767 D
JL8966 GMP1600 - 1740KIX 767 D

eff 29MAR09
JL8961 KIX0930 - 1120GMP 767 D
JL8962 GMP1225 - 1410KIX 767 D

With the change, the morning service on Osaka Kansai - Seoul Incheon service will then be cancelled. Afternoon service JL963/964 will be resumed

JL963 KIX1520 - 1715ICN 767 D
JL965 KIX1745 - 1940ICN 767 D

JL966 ICN0830 - 1020KIX 767 D
JL964 ICN1815 - 2005KIX 767 D


TxH2O
Jan 21, 09, 5:23 pm
My only experience flying JC was between KOJ-ITM and CTS-KIX. I am curious about the configurations, being that the domestic J seats are certainly better than Y seats, but I can't imagine they would justify the premium that JAL usually wants for this between Japan and China. I foresee the possibility of one-class planes with free elite seating in J ...

jiml1126
Jan 21, 09, 6:27 pm
My only experience flying JC was between KOJ-ITM and CTS-KIX. I am curious about the configurations, being that the domestic J seats are certainly better than Y seats, but I can't imagine they would justify the premium that JAL usually wants for this between Japan and China. I foresee the possibility of one-class planes with free elite seating in J ...

The configuration should be the same. Only the flight crews and attendants are provided by JAL Express, similar to JAL/JALWays


JALPak
Jan 21, 09, 7:23 pm
The configuration should be the same. Only the flight crews and attendants are provided by JAL Express, similar to JAL/JALWays

I understand that's one of their cost saving measures. But exactly how does that lower their cost? They can save money by just changing the crew :confused:

jiml1126
Jan 22, 09, 9:09 am
I understand that's one of their cost saving measures. But exactly how does that lower their cost? They can save money by just changing the crew :confused:

Assuming JAL Express has lower cost base (less salary for the crews) than JAL, but similar to JALWays.

mosburger
Jan 22, 09, 9:25 am
Just for us simpletons: If I fly JAL Express on the PVG - KIX - PVG route, then the seating, service concept and food and beverages should be the same or similar than for regular JAL flights?

jiml1126
Jan 22, 09, 10:41 am
Just for us simpletons: If I fly JAL Express on the PVG - KIX - PVG route, then the seating, service concept and food and beverages should be the same or similar than for regular JAL flights?

It's exactly the same like current JAL-JALWays relationship.



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