Starwood Preferred Guest - Boston: Which hotel? pre 2007 discussion [Master Thread]

I have a bunch(6nights) of the free weekend nights to burn through before march 31st, and airfare to boston is relatively cheap from YYZ. So decided to take a weekend trip to boston.
Which of the SPG hotel will be a good choice? I will be renting a car, so parking is a concern. From the hotel's website, it looks like parking is not available or not encouraged at the Westin Copey?

thanks.

The Westin & the Sheraton are basically next door to each other. You can walk from one to the other via skywalk without ever having to go outside. Usually one is cheaper than the other which is the one I would take. I would imagine that parking is about the same at both hotels.

The Westin Copely Place is far and away the better hotel. I stayed in both of these hotels several times in January and February and had great rooms with river views at the Westin. The Westin also feels much newer and the bar is fun.

In contrast, the Sheraton is old and many of the rooms smell musty.

I believe there is valet parking at the Westin although I have never driven there.

The Westin Copely Place is far and away the better hotel.

^

If you want to be in Copley Square, indeed the Westin is the better property. But at either hotel parking is expensive (as it is everywhere else in Boston, when you can find it at all) nor is a car necessary if seeing Boston is your plan. It's one of the most compact and walkable cities in North America. The flip side is that it's perhaps the least car-friendly city in North America. Unsurprisingly, as it was pretty much finished before the Model T came along. And what wasn't finished has been under construction ever since...not to mention that snow-plowing is by now considered optional in some parts of town.

If you want to see Lexington and Concord; Salem, Rockport, Beverly and Gloucester - collectively known as the North Shore; or Plymouth Rock and/or old (and presently snow-covered) Cape Cod; sure, get a rental but otherwise they cost more than they're worth: cabs and the subway are a helluva lot cheaper and easier if your plans keep you in Boston proper; walking cheaper still. FYI: the price of admission is $3.50 for either of the tunnels from the airport: think of it as the cover charge. We want to be paid before you get in.

If you want to see Cambridge the T (subway) is $1.25, I think, and Harvard Square is 10 minutes or less from downtown Boston. You might also consider the Commander, a Sheraton in Harvard Square, except this weekend, as it's sold out: we booked it all for a conference. It is NOT on the level of the Westin and its age makes it very different from the Sheraton Boston: in fact, there aren't many Sheraton's like it left. But it has a kind of dowdy charm that works with it's clientele, mostly Harvard-related.

Other than these three hotels there isn't much of interest, SW-wise, in or around Boston: a bit strange when you consider that Boston was the birthplace of more than American liberty: the Sheraton hotel chain was founded here in the 30's with what is now the Fairmont Copley Plaza. Which sorta completes some kind of circle as it's across the street from the Westin in Copley Place.

there are extensive threads on these hotels. it's a shame search is down. there is a wealth of info.

having said that, i used to prefer the sheraton but it really took a nose dive the last couple times i was there. lines at the front desk snaked out the front door. rooms were called junior suites when, in fact, they were smaller than most normal rooms. it was a shame. the only positive was the gym, which was great as it was run by an outside company and was an actual real gym.

the westin copley is one of those hotels that i always have bad luck at. i think it's a decent property but somehow i always get the room that has the alarm clock set to 3:45 AM that the room cleaner didn't make sure was off. i think it has an average gym.

I am hoping to use the nights and flights promotion for a Boston trip with my husband this fall for our 20 year wedding anniversary :D . Which property would you all recommend for a 5 night stay? We plan on sightseeing and eating a lot of seafood and are looking for a convenient location. A spa would be a plus...

Any suggestions?

Thank you! Babs

This was just discussed here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407934

while i realize search is down, for big cities like boston, new york, LA, etc. can i request that people at least go back a few days to see if the subject has been discussed. for the large cities, it probably has been discussed in the past four or five days.

thanks for finding that thread. ;)

Boston is a probably a city to venture outside of SPG, but you might want to consider the Sheraton over the Westin, if you can make sure you get a newly refurbished Towers room. As you know, the hotels are very close to each other and actually connected by covered walkways. Both are in a great location for walking around. But at the Sheraton, you will get free club breakfasts in the lounge, which adds up over 5 days, and may get a better upgrade/room. It;s also that much closer to Fenway Park. :)

One of the keys at the Westin is to make sure that you get a high floor as the views can be very cool from up there in virtually any direction.

Plus, I find the Westin Bed a whole lot nicer. OTOH, I have found that at times the Westin is way more expensive.

M

I agree with the previous poster. Overall, the Westin is probably a bit nicer....but the Sheraton is nicer (all around) to plats. There is a much better chance you'll be upgraded (and to a nice suite), and they have the club lounge. The hotel employees really do treat plats well too...so if you have a prob. they've always helped me out. I'd go for the Sheraton. And if I were you, I'd call them a few days ahead of time, and just explain that this is for a big anniv. I bet they'd go the extra mile to securing you a killer suite with a view!

Since downtown Boston is very walkable - are there other parking options near the hotel (over the weekend)? Most cities have municiple parking which are usualy reasonable. Any help will be welcome.

This was just discussed here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407934

While this thread speaks highly of the sheraton, the one referenced above was not as enthusiastic. :confused: Looks like is a coin toss.

Since downtown Boston is very walkable - are there other parking options near the hotel (over the weekend)? Most cities have municiple parking which are usualy reasonable. Any help will be welcome.

I'm only guessing but given the overall cost of parking in downtown Boston, the hotel's rate would likely compare favorably with that which you'd pay as a non-guest in any parking garage. More so assuming you get in-and-out privileges.

One reason - apart from the large number of people who actually live downtown, is that Boston is under DoT/DoE smog rules not to (substantially) increase the number of parking spaces in the metro area. In a sort of "if you build it, they will come" vein, the decision was not to build 'em, leaving more of us to fight over fewer of them.

As for nearby; not much: the Motormart Garage is a good 10 minute walk from the Westin; public parking at the Prudential Center (the Sheraton) and/or Copley Place (the Westin) is sky-high; the garage at the John Hancock Tower likewise. Going the other way, there's a garage behind the YMCA waaaay down Huntington Avenue but here again your competition is Fenway Park in the summer months, Northeastern University events anytime, Symphony Hall (the BSO and Boston Pops as well as concert artists) events, the Huntington (BU) Theatre events, etc.

There is not, to my knowledge, any city-owned parking in downtown Boston apart from the tow lot next to the Expressway (Interstate 93) in the South End. You don't want to park or more properly - BE - parked there as one's car enters dangling from a hook. The Westin will look pretty cheap by comparison.

Meters are not quite at NYC levels (.25 for 15 minutes) and have both two-hour daytime limits and late starts (many Back Bay commercial street meters are not legal until 11 am Monday thru Saturday to allow for deliveries); all the alphabet streets (cross streets running A-H from the Public Garden to Mass. Ave in the Back Bay: Arlington, Berkeley, Clarendon, Dartmouth, etc.) are off-limits during morning and evening rush hours and designated for resident-only (stickered) parking in the evenings.

If you have a handicapped placard you will be surprised by both the number of spaces so marked and by the relative respect these spots are accorded; meaning the un-placard-ed or plate-ed vehicles (and their drivers) know better than to try to use one. Crippled grannies ice pick-ing tires? Old men on canes keying your Porsche? It's been known to happen...

And the meter-maids are brutally efficient, so much so that - wrongly, to be sure - they have been physically attacked on a regular basis. Though not, to my knowledge, by the less-than-abled: usually it's some Bozo with a Hummer double parked on (busy; two lanes on a good day) Newbury Street. The last one I read about threw hot coffee on a meter maid. He claims to have slipped on the ice. The courts will decide.

Parking, like driving, is not for the faint of heart here.

Bostom,

Thank you for your detail information which i will take with us on our trip this month. I called the hotel and parking is $36/day. Is just odd that my hertz rental is $25/day and leaving the car sitting over night in a garage is almost 40% more than the car rental cost :( .

Part of visiting BOS for work or pleasure just simply requires some expense on the part of the visitor. I live less than 2 hours from BOS and make it in to the city with some frequency --- and, no, I don't enjoy paying $36 a night to park, but it's part of the deal there.

It would never occur to me to try to look elsewhere, since I think the drop dead lowest one could find might be $22-$25 per 24 hours and that would be in an incovenient place. For the extra $12, I love valet service at the Westin or Sheraton. Plus, the car's handy when it's time to go. A few $$$s for tips and you're on your way.

IMHO, if you're nervous about the $36 parking at night, you may not be ready to visit BOS at all. Everything's pricey. Bring your wallet!


[FWIW, similar threads on the Ft Lauderdale properties floor me. I can't imagine staying at the St R Atlantic and then shlepping 3 blocks to get your car in order to save $7 a night. Good heavens. I'm not passing judgment, mind you, just incredulous.]

Bostom,

Thank you for your detail information which i will take with us on our trip this month. I called the hotel and parking is $36/day. Is just odd that my hertz rental is $25/day and leaving the car sitting over night in a garage is almost 40% more than the car rental cost :( .

Are you certain you NEED a car? As has been stated already, unless you're planning to make trips well outside the city boundaries (Salem, Cape Cod, Plymouth, etc) -- you may find that having a car is a major hindrance and expense. Much like NYC in that regard.

I stayed in both hotels in over the July 4th week in 2003. I really liked my room at the Sheraton, as it was quite large and comfortable. The SPG desk checked me right in and took good care of me.

The Westin Copley Plaza, seemed newer, but had sort of a strange configuration with the entrance. My room had an excellent view of the river for the fireworks, but otherwise it was pretty average.

For me, it was a toss up. My Sheraton room was great, but the view from the river side of the Westin was spectacular.

Parking was expensive at the Sheraton and I don't rememer what I paid at the copley Plaza. There was a huge parking lot connected to the mall/hotel.

FDuvall

I think as with most folks, over paying for anything is not something we look forward to doing. As I cannot speak for others, when I stay at a hotel, I rather go down the street and eat at an off site establishment instead of dining at the overpriced hotel restaurant. I also take advantage of club lounge access for a quick breakfast if the hotel offers this convenience instead of dining downstairs at the restaurant (and I suspect most people with this access do the same – because I see them every morning when I am there ;) ). Call me cheap but I just call it sensible. Some people like to pay for valet but not I. Call me cheap but I just call it sensible.

When I stay at the Westin TS or the Grand Hyatt in NYC (a big city) over the weekend, there is no need to use the hotel garage because there are usually free off street parking within three blocks during a Saturday night stay. Why pay $50 when you can park free off street. Call me cheap but I just call it sensible. I rather spend the $50 on my wife and kids then on the hotel. Call me cheap but I just call it sensible.

From the responses here, it appears Boston downtown may be one of the few cities where there are no such things as affordable parking and we will just have to shell out the going rate. Thanks all for your input.

Call me cheap but I just call it sensible.

;)

you wouldn't be related to george costanza, would you? :D

Hertz had a counter at the Westin. If it's still there, you may want to check out it's rates; possibly just rent for the days you are going out of the city and returning it at the end of the day, each day.

^ ;)

you wouldn't be related to george costanza, would you? :D

you got it!!! That me ^ ^ :D

I have worked in Boston for the past 3 years and was able to stay in the Westin Copley and Sheraton hotels on several occasions. They are both located close to each other, one on each end of the Copley Square mall. As far as the rooms go, the Westin hotel is far better, with newer furniture, cleaner rooms, and a brighter atmosphere. I've been able to be upgraded as a Platinum almost each time I stayed there. Several times I've noticed that the Sheraton has a musty feeling and smell. The Sheraton does have a very large indoor/outdoor pool.

As far as location, they are both within walking distance to the subway stops that can take you anywhere within the city. They are also very close to Newberry where all the neat shops and restaurants are. The parking should be the same at both places.

When I stay at the Westin TS or the Grand Hyatt in NYC (a big city) over the weekend, there is no need to use the hotel garage because there are usually free off street parking within three blocks during a Saturday night stay. Why pay $50 when you can park free off street. Call me cheap but I just call it sensible. I rather spend the $50 on my wife and kids then on the hotel. Call me cheap but I just call it sensible.

From the responses here, it appears Boston downtown may be one of the few cities where there are no such things as affordable parking and we will just have to shell out the going rate. Thanks all for your input.

I'd like to second everything Bostom said, and add - as someone who lives a 15 minute walk from both the Westin and the Sheraton - I can't park on the street near either because I have a South End parking sticker, and both those hotels are located in the Back Bay, which has it's own sticker.

NYC doesn't have resident stickers, which makes it easier for everyone but residents to park there. Not so in Boston, unless you want to feed the meter or garage it.

And people wonder why Boston has the most aggressive drivers in the country :D

We're planning to visit Boston (where I used to live in the early 80's) this June so that my son can visit his prospective universities.

I was going to ask about hotel recommendations, but looks like the Westin Copley Place wins hands down (except for the sky high parking price) if we want to be in the Back Bay.

What have been the upgrade experience for Plat at the Westin Copley Place? Do they have suites? Do they give them to Plats?

What about the other Starwood hotels/resorts? We are specifically considering the Sheraton Colonial Hotel & Golf Club Boston North in Wakefield and the Sheraton Ferncroft Resort in Danvers? Are they "luxury properties" as they billed themselves on the SPG web site (both are only Category 2)? We love to play golf, so these 2 properties are better suited than downtown Boston, and we intend to go to Rockport, Newburyport & Cape Ann, so they will work out well.

Any input on these 2 properties would be greatly appreciated, especially suite availability and upgrade experience for Plats.

BTW, I go to Boston for work a lot, and have stayed at the Sheraton Newton(atop the Mass Pike) and the Westin Waltham a lot, so know both of those properties well - neither excite me. Finally, looks like the Sheraton Commander Cambridge is too old to even be considered, correct?

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What have been the upgrade experience for Plat at the Westin Copley Place? Do they have suites? Do they give them to Plats?

The standard upgrade at the Westin is to a Jr suite -- still just one room, but it's bigger because of the odd room shape at the corners of each floor. (each corner has 2 Jr Suites, mirror images of each other). AFAIK, the only larger suites are really a Jr. Suite + adjoining standard room, which are at one of the 3 corners on each traingular floor.

ALthough the Westin beats the Sheraton hands down for overall style, and for comfort of its standard rooms, When I was Platinum I found myself at the Sheraton a lot, because the suite upgrades + lounge access at the Sheraton were such a good deal -- the Sheraton made an obvious effort to take care of SPG plats, and they had more vareiety in their room inventory for interesting upgrades.

Which SPG hotel is the better choice for an early A.M departure from Logan? Also, I'd rather it not be a dump...

thx

Hmmm, an spg property in Boston that is close to Logan and not a dump? Sorry - doesn't exist. The nicest properties would be the Westin at Copley Place and then the Sheraton Boston. You can read a host of threads about them, although I do not find either one particularly appealing. As a platinum you do stand a chance of a decent upgrade, and Copley does have heavenly beds and baths. If you are heading to the airport before 7am, both are a 15-20 minute cab ride. After 7am through rush hour that can be pushed up to 30 minutes or so, and if there is bad weather or traffic problems it can be longer.

There is a Hyatt and Hilton at the airport (Hilton connected to most terminals by moving walkway). The Seaport Hotel in South Boston is very nice and just outside the tunnel to the airport so it is a 5 minute cab ride. And there are a host of waterfront/financial district hotels that would be a 10-15 minute cab ride. But nothing that is an spg property.

And .... I will hasten to add that should you decide to throw caution to the winds and book at the Four Points in Revere, MA that claims to be the Four Points Logan Airport Hotel ---- you will be sorely disappointed. This hotel is not really close at all to the airport. Having stayed there once, I was dismayed to learn that from the mintute I left my hotel room to the minute I walked into the terminal with my bags nearly 30 minutes had passed.

If you need to be in the Revere area (sorry if you do), then I guess stay here. But don't be fooled into thinking this is really a convenient spot neart Logan. It quite simply is not. Shame on Starwood for allowing them to bill themselves as such.

That said, if after reading all of this, you STILL want to try it -- I'd say it is your standard average 4Pts experience. Not lousy, not great.

If you want an actual 'airport' hotel, the Hilton Logan Airport is the best choice--you can walk to the terminals, and its a new property.

The second best choice is the Hyatt Harborside--a nice hotel, but you need to take a shuttle. Unlike every other hotel besides the Hilton, though, it is located on Massport property and is only a short distance to the terminals. Nice views.

Previous posters are right about the 4 Points. If you aren't going to stay at the Hilton or the Hyatt, you might as well go for the Westin Copley, because its the nicest Starwood in Boston.

What? No St. Regis? I want my butler!!! Now!!

Seriously, thank you for your suggestions. I will look at which one is close to where I need to be the night before, and go with that. I trust they all have hot running water... at some Sheratons you never know.

I'd stay at the Westin in Waltham... good hotel, friendly people... close to the airport.

Waltham isn't close to the airport
Best chance is Copley Westin, the nicest of the *wood hotels in boston.
Hop on the T, its the best way to get to the airport in rush hour.

Waltham isn't close to the airport
Best chance is Copley Westin, the nicest of the *wood hotels in boston.
Hop on the T, its the best way to get to the airport in rush hour.

Yes, Waltham is not close to the airport. But a T ride from Copley in rush hour involves a walk to the T station, 20 minute ride on the (packed) green line to Govt. center, changing to the blue line for the 10 minute ride to the airport stationm and then a 10 minute bus ride at the airport. If you are lucky you might do this from Copley in 30 minutes, but it is more likely 45.

The T is great if you are in the financial district and can just hop on the blue line. If it involves a green line transfer it can be draining.

If you're expecting a W or Westin, there is nothing close. Having stayed at a few Four Points in the past, I must say the one in revere is not that bad. I don't know why it took some people 30 minutes to get to BOS, because when I stayed there, the shuttle left every 20 mins and dropped u off really fast. It is not a luxury hotel but the people are nice and even as a Gold they give me an amenity of 500 points every time I've stayed there.
Rever is not a great part of Boston but the hotel is OK for a night and not far from the airport in my opinion.

Waltham isn't close to the airport
Best chance is Copley Westin, the nicest of the *wood hotels in boston.
Hop on the T, its the best way to get to the airport in rush hour.

The Westin or the Sheraton Boston are your best choices. While they are not particularly "close" to the airport, the airport in Boston is closer to the city than virtually any city in the country. In fact, it may be closer from the airport to these hotels than from some airports to some "airport" hotels in other cities (this might be a stretch of a statement, but you get the point).

The Sherton Boston is a good choice if you want a hotel with a lounge; otherwise, the Westin is a tad nicer, and both are "attached" via elevated walkways connecting Copley Place to the Prudential Center.

Now if you want to wait to travel until 2006, *Wood will be opening the Westin Seaport (about 5 minute cab ride from the airport)... ;)

1 night midweek stay, checked in at midnight, and found I'd been upgraded to a small suite on a high floor. Truth is, I didn't need it with the late checkin and early checkout, but I certainly appreciated the gesture. So much that even though the free water (my favorite Gold upgrade bennie) was missing, I didn't ask for 'Perfect Stay' points like the fellow next to me who was asking for 500 points because his room key stopped working...

1 night midweek stay, checked in at midnight, and found I'd been upgraded to a small suite on a high floor.

Nice :)

I also recently spent a single night there (checked in last Thursday...right before midnight), but was 'only' upgraded to a room on a Club floor.

However, I have to admit that having access to the lounge was a nice benefit.

I then moved over to a Jr suite (booked.....not upgraded) at the Westin for the next two nights.

All in all, I liked both hotels and wouldn't hesitate to stay at either one during my next visit to Boston...........that is, if the price is right. ;)

A.J.

We are going to the Boston area for the first time and we are not staying at the Westin Copley or Downtown Sheraton. We are also using *Points for our stay, which Starwood property is better? We have no clue about Boston or its *wood hotels...!? We are choosing between; Sheraton Colonial & Golf, 4 Points Woburn, 4 Points Airport, Sheraton Danvers, Sheraton Braintree, Sheraton Lexington Inn and the Sheraton Nashua.

We are going to the Boston area for the first time and we are not staying at the Westin Copley or Downtown Sheraton. We are also using *Points for our stay, which Starwood property is better? We have no clue about Boston or its *wood hotels...!? We are choosing between; Sheraton Colonial & Golf, 4 Points Woburn, 4 Points Airport, Sheraton Danvers, Sheraton Braintree, Sheraton Lexington Inn and the Sheraton Nashua.

I have stayed only at the 4 points Woburn. The staff was nice and very accommodating. The hotel is just off the freeway, but set back in the woods. There is a c-store near the hotel, as well as a McDonalds. I ate in the restaurant. As far as I can remember, it wasn't memorable;) The rooms were newly re-done and had more upscale decor than other 4 points. It is also close to the transportation center, and they have a shuttle that they will fire up if you want to take the commuter rail into Boston. Overall, it was a quiet and nice stay. Overall, this was a prety nice 4 points stay.

One other option that you didn't mention is the Sheraton Commander in Cambridge. If you're avoiding the downtown Boston hotels because you want to save points it's probably not a good choice (it's a cat 4), but if you're willing to spend the points and just don't want to be downtown it's worth thinking about. I've stayed there a few times and have found it to be a decent property - very good service. The location also can't be beat - it's a few blocks away from Harvard Square, far enough so you're out of the way of the mayhem but close enough that you can walk to the Sqaure if you want to spend time there or walk to the T.

Full disclosure: I'm much more partial to Cambridge than to Boston proper, so that may be a good chunk of why I like this hotel so much.

The 4 Points Airport is actually in Revere, about a 15-20 minute drive from Logan airport. Good Japanese restaurant on site, and a small lounge. They have a shuttle to/from Logan. Couple of good restaurants closeby. It's not bad for a 4 Points property. The Lexington Sheraton is ok, not the best *wood property around, but easy on/off access to the highways. Boston offers lots to do and see, you probably won't be in the hotel much, suggest staying at the 4 Points in Revere.

We are going to the Boston area for the first time and we are not staying at the Westin Copley or Downtown Sheraton. We are also using *Points for our stay, which Starwood property is better? We have no clue about Boston or its *wood hotels...!? We are choosing between; Sheraton Colonial & Golf, 4 Points Woburn, 4 Points Airport, Sheraton Danvers, Sheraton Braintree, Sheraton Lexington Inn and the Sheraton Nashua.

What do you want? An Urban Hotel or a Resort Hotel?

If you want an Urban Hotel, I would suggest checking out the Braintree or the Commander in Cambridge as another poster suggested. I've stayed at Braintree. It has a club level. It has a shuttle to the T. If you will have a car, it has free parking. It is about average as Sheraton's go. I've never stayed at the Commander. If you will have a car, you will get $#@!ed for parking at the Commander.

If you want a Resort / Golf hotel, The Sheraton Ferncroft Danvers and the Sheraton Colonial are both good choices. Free parking. Golf. Pools. Club Floor at least at the Fercroft.

The Sheraton Lexington is probably somewhat like Braintree, but not as convenient to the T (you could drive to Alewife and park and take the T) but more convenient to tourist stuff in Lexington and West of Boston.

Nashua is probably similiar to Daners / Colonial but much further from Boston. I would probably avoid it unless there is some reason you want to be in NH.

I would stay away from the 4points unless you really can't afford the extra Starpoints. They are pretty marginal with not much positive to offer.

Hope this helps.

I also forgot to mention that we do not want to stay at the Commander in Cambridge, it's too many points for a night "there" and it's also too ritzy-stuffy and that is not what we are looking for on this trip. We don't want a snobby old people's folks property.

I live in Boston and therefore have not stayed at any of these properties, but I can speak to location. The one in Braintree is surrounded by a decent mall/commerical area so you at least have options for food, and like stc said, near public transportation. None of your other options have either.

You didn't state the purpose of your trip, but if you are looking to make a jaunt north to NH or Maine, Danvers is close enough to Boston to be accessible, and is in that direction.

If you are willing to stay as far out as Nashua, why not consider the Sheraton Tara Hotel in Framingham? Its built to resemble a castle. I can't speak to the rooms but the decor and 'theme' are nice. Its right off the MassPike, relatively easy straight shot into Boston.

Yes, we are coming in from Maine as we are from Canada and we are going to Boston thru Maine... so I guess Danvers might be a good choice. But honestly, the other posts are saying that Nashua and Danvers are not the closest to Boston, so we don't know yet. Hopefully more post & information will be up soon! Thanks for you imput everyone. I hope *Woods won't ruin our first trip to Boston by checkin in a bad property. Last year, we were not impress with the Sheraton Center Toronto which is supposed to be nice... Anyhow, no one in the previous post told me about a bad *woods property to watch out for in Boston, so most Boston *woods should be good, right?

Haven't stayed at the Sheraton Tara in years, but there's nothing on the inside to match the castle theme on the outside. Also highly recommend avoiding the Sheraton Newton: no charm, no style, and it's built over the Mass Pike (so noisy). How 'bout the Westin Waltham? Very nice property, about 15 minutes from Cambridge via Fresh Pond Parkway, or ~20 minutes from downtown via 128/Mass Pike/Storrow Drive. It isn't in an attractive neighborhood (fairly commercial area), but the hotel is modern, clean and attractive.

Have a nice trip!

Haven't stayed at the Sheraton Tara in years, but there's nothing on the inside to match the castle theme on the outside. Also highly recommend avoiding the Sheraton Newton: no charm, no style, and it's built over the Mass Pike (so noisy). How 'bout the Westin Waltham? Very nice property, about 15 minutes from Cambridge via Fresh Pond Parkway, or ~20 minutes from downtown via 128/Mass Pike/Storrow Drive. It isn't in an attractive neighborhood (fairly commercial area), but the hotel is modern, clean and attractive.

Have a nice trip!

If you are looking for easy on and off of I-95, you might also want to consider the Sheraton Needham. It's in a good spot on top of a hill and seems pretty easy to get into Brookline and other areas of Boston without being on the highway.

I have been to Braintree, Ferncroft and Colonial in the past 2 months, and for location to the T Braintree or Needham is easiest (both have shuttles that run during the week). Braintree is in need of some renovations, although the guest rooms are much nicer than the lobby and function space. Needham is a bit isolated. Colonial and Ferncroft were both designed to be isolated and have beautiful grounds and good golf courses.

Hope this helps!

dctravel

Haven't stayed at the Sheraton Tara in years, but there's nothing on the inside to match the castle theme on the outside. Also highly recommend avoiding the Sheraton Newton: no charm, no style, and it's built over the Mass Pike (so noisy). How 'bout the Westin Waltham? Very nice property, about 15 minutes from Cambridge via Fresh Pond Parkway, or ~20 minutes from downtown via 128/Mass Pike/Storrow Drive. It isn't in an attractive neighborhood (fairly commercial area), but the hotel is modern, clean and attractive.


Here's another vote for the Westin Waltham. The Commander is actually in a strangely noisy location, at least my room was in the times I've stayed there, and the Newton Sheraton is a dump. I stayed at the Tara once many years ago and refuse to go back.

Here's another vote for the Westin Waltham. The Commander is actually in a strangely noisy location, at least my room was in the times I've stayed there, and the Newton Sheraton is a dump. I stayed at the Tara once many years ago and refuse to go back.

Westin Waltham would also be my vote. It's a relatively modern hotel compared to the Sheraton's up there.

Framingham, Braintree and Nashua are all Tara castle hotels; tired and in need of renovation IMO. Four Points Logan is in a questionable (and rather depressing) area. If you stay in Newton, you'll likely end up throwing yourself out of the room window and onto the Mass Pike before your stay is over.

Needham is OK, but the room decor always made me think of a doctor's office waiting room.

Westin Waltham would also be my vote. It's a relatively modern hotel compared to the Sheraton's up there.

Framingham, Braintree and Nashua are all Tara castle hotels; tired and in need of renovation IMO. Four Points Logan is in a questionable (and rather depressing) area. If you stay in Newton, you'll likely end up throwing yourself out of the room window and onto the Mass Pike before your stay is over.

Needham is OK, but the room decor always made me think of a doctor's office waiting room.

Needham is cheaper than the Westin and there is a lot more food around Needham (walking down to Highland Ave / Needham St.).

Needham is cheaper than the Westin and there is a lot more food around Needham (walking down to Highland Ave / Needham St.).

The OP is using points...both are Cat 3 hotels.

The OP is using points...both are Cat 3 hotels.

But things like Breakfast and possibly also Internet are going to be cheaper at the Needham Sheraton than the Waltham Westin and besides, people are likely to use this chain in the future for reference. So, even if the OP is using points the relative costs of the two hotels is relavent for future reference.

But things like Breakfast and possibly also Internet are going to be cheaper at the Needham Sheraton than the Waltham Westin and besides, people are likely to use this chain in the future for reference. So, even if the OP is using points the relative costs of the two hotels is relavent for future reference.

If you insist...although I didn't see anything in any of the OP's posts about the need for cheap breakfast. Internet will be either $9.95 or $10.95 at either hotel.

Personally, I would pay a slight premium for the Westin. The cash rates for the Westin on weekdays will be in the low $200's, but on weekends the rates are as low as $119/night. You can probably get Needham on a weekend for about $90/night.

If you insist...although I didn't see anything in any of the OP's posts about the need for cheap breakfast. Internet will be either $9.95 or $10.95 at either hotel.

Personally, I would pay a slight premium for the Westin. The cash rates for the Westin on weekdays will be in the low $200's, but on weekends the rates are as low as $119/night. You can probably get Needham on a weekend for about $90/night.

I just checked in for an extended stay and was told they have no Executive Lounge and won't comp breakfast as a Plat. Anyone have better luck at this hotel?

--DD

I just checked in for an extended stay and was told they have no Executive Lounge and won't comp breakfast as a Plat. Anyone have better luck at this hotel?

--DD

No. In fact I suggested the Sheraton Needham.

Hi gang!

I've read the reviews on the Boston area, but it wasn't exactly on point for me. If my choice is between the Boston Park Plaza and the Boston Sheraton, given the following, which would you choose:

1) I'm a Platinum
2) Two of the four nights in Boston is associated with a meeting AT the Park Plaza
3) I'd love the points but I love the freedom associated with staying at the hotel
4) What counts most for me is getting a suite upgrade
5) I haven't been staying at Starwoods enough to even requalify for Gold if I don't stay at the Sheraton (the prices in NYC have been just too high for my company). But it seems like I can get Gold for $10 via Ameniti (I actually got an offer for Free 30 day Ameniti).

The traditional advice is to get a room at the Copley. But because of high rates there, the availability of SPG50 at the sheraton but not the westin, and the $189 convention rate, I'd have to pay about $200/day out of pocket.

In fact, for the same price (actually $30 less), I can get a room at the Fairmont and I have a suite upgrade cert there, which I've heard is by far better.

Given it just before my 50th birthday and I will be celebrating with friends, a suite upgrade is key.

Thanks in advance for your help and collective wisdom!!
Cheers
Barry

Barry --

If you're SPG Plat now, your chances of a suite UG are quite good (statistically speaking) at the Sheraton BOS. And, as you likely know already, the Park Plaza and the Sheraton are within a quick walking distance of each other.

The Park Plaza is an older hotel with some real quirks. You know that this hotel does not participate in any way in the SPG program.

So, really you can't go wrong with either one given your outline of needs. The Park Plaza is a little weird, but the site of your meeting, so it's ultra handy and still in a great location. OTOH, the Sheraton is a hop down the street and your odds of UG are high -- also, don't forget that the Sheraton maintains a solid Club Lounge program 7 nights a week with a fully acceptable breakfast in the lounge, as well. You'll not get that at the PP.

Lastly, if you're not planning to make any status with SPG for 2006 and don't really care about that, the Fairmont Copley is an excellent choice! They have just undergone an extensive rooms renovation program and the guaranteed suite UG coupons are fantabulous. That would be an excellent choice and practically across the street from the PP.

That's my input.

Thanks! Great advice so far.

My only concern is that the reports on the suites at the Sheraton Boston sound like they are pretty tired. Anyone have any recent upgrade experience there? Specific suite numbers would be very handy

Yes, the suites are tired at the Sheraton with dated furniture. Having said that, the location is pretty good although not great. I use the Sheraton on business trips and would rather stay at the Westin on a personal one.

Just a thought...if your concern is that the Sheraton is a bit 'tired,' I don't think the Park Plaza is going to be answer to that particular problem...

Yes, the suites are tired at the Sheraton with dated furniture. Having said that, the location is pretty good although not great. I use the Sheraton on business trips and would rather stay at the Westin on a personal one.

We stayed there in February and got a suite upgrade on the club floor. I would not call the suite tired at all. In fact, the view alone blew us away.

I think if you stay at the Park Plaza unless you pay for a suite or towers lievel you WILL be disapponted. I'd go with the Sheraton.

Glad to here about the suite with the killer view at the Sheraton. Do you know the room number? Was it a full suite (with a door seperating the bedroom from the living room).

Thanks! Seems like the Park Plaza isn't the way to go, here's one time where an SPG50 helped out.

Sheraton is a much nicer hotel than the Park Plaza. Typically with conventions, the u/gs are decided between the sales mgr of the hotel responsible for the convention and the convention organizer- so unless your name is on that list- or you pay upfront- no way.
If you have a suite ug Fairmont is pretty good about taking care of you.
All said, I would go with the Sheraton- phone hotel direct after rez, advise of your b/day request...and hope for the best.

Glad to here about the suite with the killer view at the Sheraton. Do you know the room number? Was it a full suite (with a door seperating the bedroom from the living room).

Thanks! Seems like the Park Plaza isn't the way to go, here's one time where an SPG50 helped out.

Yes, it was a full suite with a door between the two rooms and 1 & 1/2 bath. Unfortunately, I do not remember the number. But it was on the top floor, on the other side from the club lounge, 2-3 doors down from the elevator, and facing the river.

I've downloaded some (5) pictures to:
http://www.mit.edu/~rk/sheraton/
Unforutnately, we didn't take any picutres of the bedroom but it was about 1/2 size of the sitting room.

Your right, the view is great!

Thanks. The pictures are very helpful.

I stayed at the Sheraton this last weekend. I was upgraded to a huge suite - room number was 2807. The pictures look like it was from this suite. There are executive floors on 27-29th floors with the lounge on the 29th floor. I believe that there are two large suites per floor on both ends of the floor. Lounge serves snaks and drinks in the evening (free soda) and a good continental breakfast in the morning. I'd higly recommend the Sheraton.

Wow! I have been a SPG PLatinum since the Westin joined Starwood, around 1995. I have stayed at the Boston Sheraton numerous times and never had even close to this nice of a suite. Hope that you have better luck than me! :(

Never mind -- I misread something. :eek:

Yes, the suites are tired at the Sheraton with dated furniture. Having said that, the location is pretty good although not great. I use the Sheraton on business trips and would rather stay at the Westin on a personal one.

The hotel is not tired. Not sure when was your last stay but this is much better than the Hilton across the street or the Westin which is are both dated. Here is a set of photos from the suite - some of the pic on the site are old - look for the pictures with the red leather chairs - this was taken in June. This is an excellent hotel and has free Wi-Fi on the lounge. And I rec update 50% of time as Plat.

And I rec update 50% of time as Plat.
You mean you receive a suite upgrade?

You mean you receive a suite upgrade?

(Also note that the OP has no status with Starwood.)
The OP says in his post that he is a Platinum.

The OP says in his post that he is a Platinum.
OK, sorry, I misread it! :eek:

The last time I stayed at the Park Plaza I was very disapointed, the Sheraton is definetly the better choice.

Another vote for the Sheraton. I stay at this property weekly and have to agree that the only thing "tired" about it is the decor in the hallways and the tiny bathrooms. Otherwise it's a very nice hotel. There are a number of different "suites" available that I have stayed at:

Club Floor "Jr. Suite" -- extra-large room with a big open space in the middle

1-BR Suite Club Floor -- a true living room and bedroom combination with a full bath in the bedroom and a half bath in the living room. Sometimes the living room will have a dinner table. Depending on the room you may have either a regular door between the BR and LR or a set of double glass doors. I have stayed in several of these in the Club floors.

1-BR Suite Regular Floor -- this was at the end of the hallway and took up the entire width of the hotel building. A large living room with a "wet bar area" (no bottles, just a granite countertop, sink and large mirror) was on one side, and a bedroom was on the other side. There is only one full bath here, a little bit more spacious than other rooms but with a several lack of counter space, and no door between the LR and BR.

You mean you receive a suite upgrade?
Sorry - here is the link....

http://www.hotelscoop.com/hotelDetail1a.php?Hotelid=6330&HotelName=Optional&Decor=ALL&Service=ALL&Value=ALL&Location=ALL&City=boston&Brand=Sheraton&State=MA&Class=ALL&Country=ALL&Results=10

Thanks, again, for those photos. Indeed, those of us who have stayed at this Sheraton for many years are correct in saying this hotel had gotten truly tired. The dark hallways and ultra-blah room decor had almost made me swear off this place.

These photos prove that hotel management has addressed the rooms issue in what looks like a significant way. ^

Now, if they can only fix those dark, dank hallways.......

I have been upgraded to a suite on a regular floor. the View is great but the room was more tired than than a frequent flier (Circa early 80's). Even though it costs me more now I stay at the Westin Copley never had a bad room there, miss the free bottled water though.

Well, some of it is just which tower you stay in. The tower nearest the river (with the better views) seems to have smaller, yet tastefully decorated rooms, the other one larger but dated rooms.

Thanks! You folks are the greatest.

Clearly I will choose Sheraton over Park. I am encouraged by the photos, but the decor doesn't wow me, but the picture showing the view is the capper. I'm a sucker for killer views, and who cares about the furniture (ok I do, but not that much).

I will try an finagle a confirmed upgrade as it's immediately before my 50th birthday (heading to Vegas right after) and me East Coast homies are meeting me in Boston for a party.

Now while my 50th might warrant the Fairmont, I find the Sheraton sufficient and I rather be broke leaving Vegas than arriving :cool:

Anyone know whether 2807 has the killer view?

Ok, I stayed at the Westin Copley this weekend. Overall, we had a pleasant stay. Our room was on the (top) 36th floor, which was designated as a "Starwood Preferred Guest Floor." Oddly, though, it did NOT have a heavenly bed. The bed was comfortable, so I'm not really complaining, but it was just rather odd since it is advertised. You'd think that those rooms at least would have Heavenly Beds.

The room itself was very nice and quite large...maybe not quite as large as the 'old' Sheraton rooms but much larger than the newer ones. It certainly was not 'tired,' everything was in good shape. There was a nice flat screen TV, carpet looked good, etc.

I was not all that impressed with the lobby area--its really quite small and dominated by the 'Bar 10' bistro which fancies itself as quite the spot at night with the booming music, etc. Not really my scene. The staff, however, was quite friendly. I'm sure they were rather mortified by all the Red Sox fans hanging around the lobby, but they didn't show it too badly.

Overally, the property is nicer than the Sheraton, however I'm not sure that I really preferred the 'feel' of the hotel. In my case, both properities where the same price, but I wouldn't pay a large premium for the Westin.

Actually, the Westin Copley does indeed have Heavenly Beds in all their rooms. What might've thrown you was the absence of the standard WHITE duvet cover at this property.

Not sure why or how, but this hotel received an exemption (perhaps it was a test??? :confused: ) from the chainwide standard WHITE duvet cover and has always had the striped olive/brown duvet covers that you saw there. Personally, I like them more than the white, but what do I know?!?!?

I have heard numerous folks over the years pondering why the Westin Copley doesn't have the Heavenly Bed when, indeed, it has for more than 5 years......albeit with a different color on top. Amazing what that one difference does for perception.

Well, it was not a Heavenly Bed because it was lacking in layers. It was just a few sheets and a thin grey comforter--not big and fluffy like the real Heavenly Bed. I can assure you, it was more than the color.

Thanks all

Wow, the Sheraton is really doing well by me. They have confirmed a club floor suite with the bedroom overlooking the Charles and the parlor overlooking Fenway. They called it the "mini - presidential suite".

It supposed to be larger than the club room suite that has both rooms overlooking the Charles. My sense is I would be better off with the regular suite with the Charles view. I'd be giving up a wet bar and foyer, but my thought was that the view was the thing.

Anyone been in the Fenway view suite as well as the other, and have some comments to share?

Thanks!!

I need a little help!

I am planning a trip to Boston in the fall and I am trying to decide between Boston Copley and Sheraton Boston. How are those those places? I heard so many good things about the Westin Copley. Can anyone tell me more about the place or direct me to a link of a previously posted thread (I could not find it via the search function as always) Are they both near the subway station? (I won't be getting a rental so public transit is very important) How likely is it to get upgraded to the junior suite (134 of them?) at Westin and Club at Sheraton as a Platinum?

Here are the rates:
$199 at Westin. Just the room
$159 at Sheraton - Breakfast for 2 delievered to room + a bottle of wine and cheese
*Do platinums get breakfast vouchers at either places?

Which one would you pick?

bliss --

this is one of those posts that comes up at least monthly. There is a wealth of info out there on this very topic. When I can't get the FT search function to work as well as I want it to, I use google.com and do the following:


use this link: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en


and then enter Boston Sheraton in the top field and then


skip down about 5 lines to "Domain" and enter: www.flyertalk.com

(then repeat for Boston Westin or Westin Copley)


That should help you some.


All that behind us, I'll make a quick comment on your OP. The Westin is a newer, fresher hotel with rooms that feel very contemporary. Plats do NOT get any additional amenities here (such as vouchers or bkfst or anything else). Upgrades will ONLY be to a jr suite and they are stingy with them in the exteme at times. So, don't count on it. Regardless, this is a fashionable hotel in a great, nay IDEAL, location in BOS.

The Sheraton is a much older hotel that has been generally well maintained. It lacks the freshness of the Westin, but is a solid hotel nonetheless. This hotel has scads of suites of all makes and models (like over 100) and your odds are certainly better here than at the Westin. It is connected, like the Westin, to a snazzy shopping complex full of restaurants and stores and is also mere steps from Boylston and Newbury Sts! The Sheraton maintains a respectable club lounge (recently renovated) for Club floor guests and Plat members and they do a consistently good job of running this lounge.

All things considered, I'd likely pocket the $40 (heaven knows you'll need it in BOS) and stay at the Sheraton. With room service breakfast and access to the lounge, it would be hard to justify staying at the Westin with none of those bennies.

I used to avoid the Sheraton since the rooms had been allowed to go far far far too long without renovation. To the point of ridiculous, really. I understand that nearly all, if not all, of the rooms have now been completely redone and are much nicer -- and, of course, the Sheraton has all new beds as of last year.
Whatever decision you make, you'll enjoy either hotel.

bliss --

this is one of those posts that comes up at least monthly. There is a wealth of info out there on this very topic. ...

Yes there is!


All that behind us, I'll make a quick comment on your OP. The Westin is a newer, fresher hotel with rooms that feel very contemporary. Plats do NOT get any additional amenities here ...
The Sheraton is a much older hotel that has been generally well maintained. It lacks the freshness of the Westin, but is a solid hotel nonetheless....
All things considered, I'd likely pocket the $40 (heaven knows you'll need it in BOS) and stay at the Sheraton. ...

What SBTINME said...right on the money on all counts.

Searched "Sheraton Copley Boston" and came up with 54 hits, including

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465004&highlight=sheraton+boston+copley

which pretty much says it all, but there are numerous others with great detail too.

ALL the rooms have not been renovated at the Sheraton, believe me! But the ones in the better Tower---the one overlooking the river---have.

I too would pocket the money and go with the Sheraton. I stayed at both this summer. The Westin is certainly very nice, but didn't blow me away. I'm young but it felt a little cold to me--and there is virtually no lobby.

The Sheraton is a big mixed bag, but it just felt more comfortable to me. I like the location better--I prefer to be connected to the Prudential Mall, steps from Dunkin Donuts and a small indoor Catholic chapel, than to the Copley Place Mall, which is less homey. Of course they are a quick walk from each other.

Both are great for public transportation--and the location is good too. You really can't go wrong with either one, and there is no doubt that the Westin is more posh (though the beds are disappointing, not the true Heavenly Beds you find at other properites) and a bit more luxorious, but I'd go with the Sheraton, push for a great room, and enjoy breakfast in bed.

If I were to stay on points I would pick the Westin since thay are both cat 5. For the rate you quoted I would go with the Sheraton especialy with the other items thrown in.

For the prices you quote, I too would select the Sheraton. Do be aware that while the hotels are near one another, the Westin is a much better location. The Hines convention center makes walking to the Sheraton a bit more difficult that its location would suggest. Whereas the Westin is right on Copley Square.

Well you can still walk from the Sheraton to the Westin in 10 minutes, tops--and stay indoors. Or go outside and do it in 5.

If I were to stay on points I would pick the Westin since thay are both cat 5.

Actually, cat 4s.

I have stayed at both many times and I take Westin over Sheraton. Even though Sheraton has finally been renovated, the rooms and the atmosphere at the Westin is much better.

I have stayed at both many times and I take Westin over Sheraton. Even though Sheraton has finally been renovated, the rooms and the atmosphere at the Westin is much better.

Agreed. Whenever I go to Boston, I try to stay at the Westin Copley. Don't go for the Sheraton stretched over the turnpike, NO MATTER what.

Agreed. Don't go for the Sheraton stretched over the turnpike, NO MATTER what.

This would be the infamous Sheraton Newton. And, I dare say that EVERYONE agrees with the above sentiment. Sadly, just a marginal hotel in a tough location. Simply NO reason to stay here. It needs to morph into something other than a Sheraton. It is precisely this sort of property that continued to dilute the Sheraton brand.

Is Sheraton really that BAD? Bad enough to the point that you rather pay $80+ tax extra and give up your daily full American breakfast delievered to your room and a bottle of wine and cheese plate to stay at the Westin?

I guess if I was going to pick Sheraton NY Tower or Westin Times Square, I would pick Westin Times Square hands down and pay extra. Sheraton NY is not a bad hotel, but Westin's new rooms are far more comfortable than Sheraton and Westin's view is way better than Sheraton. So, if Westin Copley vs Sheraton Boston is anything comparable to Westin Times Square and Sheraton NY Towers then I guess I should go with Westin. Is it?

if you are a religious person.. pick Sheraton.. it is next to a big church and a huge reflection pool for people to daydream and think about the world.. :rolleyes:

I can only offer up experiences at one of the two, but here goes. I've stayed at the Sheraton twice. After the first time, I said never again. The second time, I used hotwire and thought I was going to get the Westin, but got the Sheraton. Woops. Second stay was not nearly as bad. Got upgraded to a corner room, sweet sleeper bed had been added...BUT, the room was still dated and the bathroom was subpar. I can't speak to the Westin, but will tell you I don't plan on staying at the Sheraton when I return to Boston.

Is Sheraton really that BAD? Bad enough to the point that you rather pay $80+ tax extra and give up your daily full American breakfast delievered to your room and a bottle of wine and cheese plate to stay at the Westin?
...So, if Westin Copley vs Sheraton Boston is anything comparable to Westin Times Square and Sheraton NY Towers then I guess I should go with Westin. Is it?

Bliss, the people who are knocking the Sheraton a couple of messages back (sbtinme, for example) are NOT talking about the Sheraton Boston - they're talking about the thoroughly awful Sheraton Newton, about 10 miles west on the Mass Turnpike. It's a terrible hotel; as most others have said, the Sheraton Boston is decent, not amazing, takes pretty good care of golds and plats.

I realize the topic switch was unexpected, that happens quite a bit here - pays to pay attention ;)

Bliss, the people who are knocking the Sheraton a couple of messages back (sbtinme, for example) are NOT talking about the Sheraton Boston - they're talking about the thoroughly awful Sheraton Newton, about 10 miles west on the Mass Turnpike.

To be fair to the other posters, the Sheraton Boston IS technically on top of the Mass Pike to a certain extent. However, it is far less obtrusive than the Sheraton Newton.

My personal take on all this is that the cost savings, especially with the free breakfast, means staying at the Sheraton rather than the Westin. Having lived essentially between the two, it is the same neighborhood- though the Sheraton is in a far less desirable location.

Bliss --

Don't make this harder than it needs to be. The Sheraton BOS is a perfectly okay hotel (a I, and others, have written above). It has some quirks -- as any hotel 40 years old will. Regardless, they do a solid job there and virtually all of the rooms have now been remodeled. Your chances of a nice stay there are good.

Do not confuse the Sheraton BOS with the Sheraton Newton (the one built straddling the Mass Turnpike). The Sheraton Newton is often available at a $99 rate and would appear to be a steal; however, avoid at all costs.

Back to the original question: do whatever you want .... toss a coin, if need be. You'll be happy with a stay at either the Sheraton BOS or the WESTIN Copley.

Having stayed a number of times at both hotels-- especially last year-- I'm amused about the talk of location.

Both hotels are connected by overhead climate controlled walkways that connect to Copley Place (shopping center) and to the Prudential Center (another shopping center).

The Westin is closer to Back Bay Station (Amtrak, T Orange Line) and the Sheraton is closer to Prudential Station (T Green Line), but again the skywalks connect and it is possible to alight at Back Bay Station and walk to the Sheraton without a single raindrop/snowflake hitting you.

The Sheraton prior to the renovation used to be a poor sister (IMO) to the fresher Westin, but no longer. Unlike the Westin, the Sheraton has a top floor Club Lounge decorated in a tacky red wall color with nice view facing the Chuck River. The free PCs and Internet access in the Club Lounge is nice for those who hate toting laptops.

The Westin has no lounge.

Upgrade wise, I've had some very nice upgrades at the Sheraton including some suites that are located at the end of the hall with views in 3 directions.

One thing to beware of at the Sheraton are the noise and vibrations from the roof mounted equipment which I've found to be loud, and the noisy elevators whoosing past rooms that are adjacent.

At the Westin, the best upgrade I had was to a corner suite (mentioned by others) which seemed to have the interconnecting door unlocked to form a huge suite (the other corner suite had a formal dining table).

Since you're using public transit, you may wish to consider purchasing a T visitor's pass. They can be purchased at Back Bay Station (at the commuter rail ticket window).

Both hotels are nice, but I'd go for the package deal at the Sheraton in this case.

the Westin and Sheraton are pretty close to each other. I will throw my vote toward the Sheraton because of the rate and extra amenities. How much time do you plan to spend in your room? I agree with others, you will want the extra money to spend in Boston.

bliss --
The Westin is a newer, fresher hotel with rooms that feel very contemporary. The Sheraton is a much older hotel that has been generally well maintained. It lacks the freshness of the Westin, but is a solid hotel nonetheless.

Not sure why folks still have the above view. I was at both hotels this summer and I have the exact opposite opinion. Loved the Sheraton and thought Westin was dated. I am plat and rec upgardes at the Sheraton on every stay with the river view. Posted pictures on the hotelscoope site. Also, if your room is next to the club lounge, you can get wireless for free. And I question if it was a Heavenly bed at the Westin this summer. It did not feel or look like one in my room. Too firm and not many pillows.

Another option is the Harvard Sq sheraton (Commander) It has some nie renovated rooms.

I'm planning a trip to the Sheraton over the 4th of July 2006. Where do the fireworks take place? Can they be viewed from one of the rooms? Any fireworks info will greatly be appreciated.

I'm planning a trip to the Sheraton over the 4th of July 2006. Where do the fireworks take place? Can they be viewed from one of the rooms? Any fireworks info will greatly be appreciated.

Yes fireworks can be seen from the majority of the rooms at the sheraton, I have stayed there before for the 4th, just try and request a higher floor..

Wow, the Sheraton is really doing well by me. They have confirmed a club floor suite with the bedroom overlooking the Charles and the parlor overlooking Fenway. They called it the "mini - presidential suite".


i'm confused. they upgraded you. so, aren't you doing well by them? how are they doing well by you? do i have it backwards?

if you paid them $500 for a lousy room, they would be doing well by you. if you get upgraded to a prez suite on a normal rate, you would be doing well by them, right?

:confused:

Hello,

I just got a status match from Marriott Plat to SPG Plat. I am ready to make the switch, but unfortunately, the first hotel I picked for my first stay is really not up to snuff...

I spend a lot of time in hotels in the Northern Boston area (close to the I93/I95 junction), and this time I chose the Sheraton Colonial in Wakefield. Unfortunately the hotel is a bit of a fleabag and I'm definitely not going back there again. The Westin a bit further south on 95 looks good, but unfortunately the whole facility is nonsmoking, which is a showstopper for me.

Can anyone recomend a quality hotel in this area? My budget is usually around $200/night. I don't mind if the property is in downtown Boston, by the way.

TIA

The Sheraton Lexington is kind of nice, in a homey sort of way, and it's very convenient to the 93-95 (or, as it's known locally, 93-128) junction. I don't know if they have smoking rooms.

The Sheraton Boston is a nondescript but generally serviceable business hotel in central Boston. It is not very convenient to get to the northern suburbs, though.

The Sheraton in Newton is not very nice and should be avoided, and the same goes for the 4 Pts near the airport.

The Sheraton in Nashua (New Hampshire) is an older place that is usually very welcoming, but it does show its age. I don't think the Nashua property is as nice as the Sheraton Lexington, and Lexington is certainly much more convenient for you.

Thanks!

The Lexington Inn sounds pretty good - I was actually contemplating booking this place but ended up choosing the Wakefield hotel instead, primarily because it was closer to the office.

Since you seem to be very well-versed in Boston Starwood hotels, may I ask if you agree that the Sheraton Colonial is quite sub-par?

While I've only personally experienced the Nashua Sheraton in the area you're targeting, I can say that what I've read on the SPG forum here gives me the impression that your target area is one of the world's most likely areas to give an unfairly poor impression of Starwood in general. I hope you'll be able to use your platinum status outside of this area before you form a lasting impression of Sheratons in particular.

We stayed at the Sheraton Nashua last summer for a week and we loved it! There's some bad reviews on other websites... and here, but I don't know why!? The property, the service, the rooms (large & comfy), the VALUE, we would return! ^ Ask for a room on the club level (pick a room on the front of the hotel) those rooms are nicer.

I don't know about the hotel there but Lexington is a lovely, suburban town with lots of well to do people. It is also close to any of the major routes you might need. I live about 5 miles from there.

Okay, maybe I'm dreaming today, but if you folks are talking about the Sheraton Inn Lexington -- then we are all on a totally different page. A small amount of research will prove out that this is one maligned (and most would claim rightfully so) Starwood property. It's worth noting that it is the sole Sheraton Inn Property left on the planet (unless that's changed recently). Many will recall decades ago when Sheraton Inns dotted the US's interstates and landscapes.

In any case, I would encourage any and all persons to do a tad more research on the Sheraton Inn Lexigton and I think you'll find in short order that perhaps 97.8% of all reviews have not been good.

FWIW, I will add that the Sheraton Colonial is kind of a crap hotel, albeit with rooms renovated to the full new Sheraton look about 4 years ago. The neighborhood (immediate vicinity) where it's located is not good at all and, although one is central to a lot of things -- seacoast, BOS, NH, etc--- one kind of gets the feeling that one is in the middle of nothingness in Wakefield.

TO THE OP: your best bet, hands down, IMO, is to check out the Westin in Wlatham ( the one you referenced above ). Folks disagree about this hotel, but I have always, always found it to be well run and exceptionally comfortable. As a Plat, I have great success there with Jr Suite upgrades which I like a lot. Skip the hotel's restaurant and you'll have a great stay.

After searching through the threads in this forum, it seems that there are four properties that might make sense for me:

Westin Waltham
Westin Copley
Sheraton Boston
Sheraton Cambridge

The Waltham looks nice (I've had breakfast there a couple of times) but as I wrote earlier they're 100% non-smoking and I have yet to kick the habit...

That leaves the Westin on Copley and the two Sheratons. From what I've read so far, they're all OK. Frankly, getting to the Northern suburbs in the morning and back in the evening is not really an issue for me, since I'd be going against traffic. I've commuted from downtown before, but I can't always justify the room prices at the XV Beacon (ahem), so I need a Starwood where I can become a regular.

Does anyone have experience with these three downtown hotels in terms of suite upgrades? That matters the most to me. I got a "junior suite" at the Colonial - really just a large room, but I'd be happy if it were clean and comfortable. It's neither.

Thanks.

First things first. If smoking is an issue for you, then the Westin Copley is also out since the entire Westin chain has gone "clean air" these days. And, that's a shame, since both BOS area Westins are nice.

That really leaves you then with the Sheraton BOS which, although a little aged around the corners, has a great DT location and has myriad (like 70 or so) suites/jr suites in their inventory and many Plats report good treatment here. My stays have usually, but not always, involved some sort of legitimate upgrade -- sometimes great, sometimes less so. The club lounge here is well run and better than many others out there.

Do a search on the Sheraton Commander and you'll see a wide variety of opinion. My opinion is that unless you need to be in Cambridge proper, stay elsewhere.

Excellent, thanks!

I've had pretty much the same experience as sbtinme: best value in the area is almost always the Westin Waltham, the Lexington is a dump (although not quite as bad as the Sheraton Newton, which would have been improved if the recent fire had totalled it out). The Sheraton Boston does a decent job of recognizing Plats, not quite as good as the Westin Copley ime but there's that non-smoking thing...

And I've had really great experiences at the Sheraton Commander, and some not-so-great ones (e.g the room that smelled like dirty socks). But since the Westin Waltham is only 10 min from Harvard Square, I don't stay there often.

taking my wife there for our anniversary

(once again a lowly basic member due to major decline in business travel)....

using points for a 1 nt stay.

thoughts? thanks so much.....

pmv

Stayed at the Sheraton in February. My wife really disliked the old, outdated decor and furnshings. Although we had a mini-suite and plenty of room, she said she would never stay there again. Also, although the hotels are connected vis a shopping mall, the Westin just seemed to be more lively and attractive.

I haved stayed at both and While my upgrades are better at the Sheraton, the Westin rooms are far better. Nicer more comfy, better decor. Locations are both fine The Westin is a few more $$$ but worth it.

I second the recommendation of the Westin by a mile. Ask for a river view room.

I also like the bar at the Westin for a pre-dinner drink.

I've stayed at both the Westin and Sheraton downtown in Boston. Prefer the Westin quite a bit.

It actually, well, smells better.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Junior Suite vs. "Executive Deluxe" room at the Sheraton (not Club)?

I'm looking at either a standard room at the Westin or the Suite/Exec room at the Sheraton.

Problem with the Westin is that they want $30 more a night for a river view room. My last stay there, they simply wouldn't give me a River view unless I paid more.

I was kind of miffed.

I prefer the Westin. I have stayed there about 10 times and always get upgraded to junior suite, but never the 1BR suite. I believe they have four of them but they don't seem bookable and always seem taken. The Westin is also adjacent to Copley Place and Prudential Mall like the Sheraton. Westin is more modern. They did give me buffet coupons (not every time) whereas the Sheraton has an exec lounge (not particularly exciting). A few months back at the Westin I mentioned my flightwas not leaving until 10pm and they offered me to pay $25 to extend my check-out time from 4pm to 9pm. I was very satisfied with that.

As for the Sheraton I actually like the mini-suite- it is smaller than the exec suite but it has French doors and is more cozy.

I have stayed at both, but I don't have status so I'm not going to get upgraded unless I pay for it.

The price of a junior suite at the Sheraton is the same as a "River View" room at the Westin. I'm wondering if its worth it---a river view is very important to me at either place. I don't think I'm going to get a riverview room at the Westin unless I pay for it, I think my chances are better at the Sheraton.

But, certainly, the feeling of "luxury" is there for the Westin and not neccessarily for the Sheraton. I'm just trying to figure out the exact rooms--what is a junior suite at the Sheraton, how nice is it, etc. I'm going to be booking online, but I wonder if its worth calling the Sheraton/Westin and just asking for what I want.

I have also stayed at both and echo the sentiments of others here. The Westin is definitely a nicer hotel but you do stand a better chance of being upgraded at the Sheraton. This should make sense as the "nicer" hotel would obviously be in greater demand and have fewer upgrade opportunities! I also find the Westin more convenient to get into and out of (IMHO). The Bar 10 in the Westin is also quite nice (if a bit too loud and hip on weekend nights). The lounge scene at the Sheraton is moribund! Do ask for a River view room (at either hotel) as the view is great!

I was at the Sheraton last summer and was always given an upgrade to a large or mini suite with river view. I took some pics and posted here:

http://www.hotelscoop.com/hotelDetail1a.php?Hotelid=6330&HotelName=sheraton+copley+place&Decor=ALL&Service=ALL&Value=ALL&Location=ALL&City=boston&Brand=Sheraton&State=ALL&Class=ALL&Country=ALL&Results=10

Some of the pictures are from way back but you can see the ones i took in '05. All rooms have Sweet Sleepers. The hotel have been refurbished. Also, it has a large pool with a retractable roof!!

I stayed at the Westin once and did not like it. In my view, the Westin is dated and boring. The bed was not a heavenly bed (unless it had been worn down so much i did not recognize it). So my vote is for the Sheraton.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Junior Suite vs. "Executive Deluxe" room at the Sheraton (not Club)?

I'm looking at either a standard room at the Westin or the Suite/Exec room at the Sheraton.

Problem with the Westin is that they want $30 more a night for a river view room. My last stay there, they simply wouldn't give me a River view unless I paid more.

I was kind of miffed.


I think the Executive room is better if it's just you (or a couple)....for families, the junior suite is much better (because it's essentially two small rooms)

In terms of Sheraton vs. Westin....I think it depends. If you're a plat, i think the Sheraton is much better, just because you're almost guaranteed a suite...and they have a pretty good club lounge. If not a plat, I'd pick the Westin. That's assuming the rooms cost the same though, and usually the Sheraton is a bit cheaper.

No, I have no status with Starwood whatsoever.

Sheraton and Westin are the same price. Location wise for me, Sheraton is a bit better because the focus of the weekend is Fenway.

What is the layout of an Executive King room? I wonder what the chances of getting one with a riverview is--same for Junior Suite.

The Junior Suite and Executive King at Sheraton is the same price as a regular River View room at the Westin.

Hence, my dilemna.

I'm just now reading your earlier post saying this is a trip with your wife.

It's a tough call. The Sheraton is closer to Fenway Park (by about 5-10 minutes) and the suite would be nice....but the Westin rooms are also very nice (and the hotel is newer). Personally, I'd probably take the Sheraton with an executive room (over the junior suite). It's not really a suite (it has a wet bar) but is just essentially an oversized room. You may want to see if you could get a club room for the same price, and if you can, I'd take that. If not, I'd probably still stick with the Sheraton. It's a little closer to the fun things in Back Bay (Fenway, bars, shopping).

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the responses.

What does the club room add?

So basically, the junior suite is two smallish rooms, apparently with french doors in between them, and the executive king is one larger room with a wet bar?

Meanwhile, over at the Westin, the standard rooms are nice (which I remember) but i may not get a river view unless I pay for it.

Of course, I may not get one at the Sheraton, regardless of the kind of room I book, either.

The club room puts you on the club floors (top 4 of the hotel) with private elevators, and a club lounge (aka free breakfast and snacks around dinner). The floors have also recently been renovated (and look quite classy!)

Depends on the type of mini suite, but it has basically a small entry room with bathroom, bedroom, and tv room. The rooms are smaller, though.

I think you'll be able to get a river view suite (if that's extremely important for you). Just call the hotel the morning of your reservation and kindly ask them to block you in a river view room (for whichever room type you get). Explain it's your anniversary.... They've always been great with requests for me, at least!

Thanks moulder, you've been a huge help.

I called them and the reservations agent strongly recommended the Executive Room over the Junior Suite. Said it was larger & nicer. Agreed to put in a request for a river view room.

Club Room would have been a bit more, and if I am correct the room itself is not any larger than a standard room, so you are paying for the amenities which I'm not sure we'd really use.

So I ended up reserving the Executive Room at the Sheraton, and asking for a River View. Hopefully, it works out. If I'm not really thrilled with it, hopefully they'll let me change the type of room even though I've prepaid for this type.

The Westin ended up not being an option---I waited too long and the price went up. On the plus side, it made the decision easier!

The Westin ended up not being an option---I waited too long and the price went up. On the plus side, it made the decision easier!

No sure about your dates, but I just cancelled some old reservations I had at the Westin since I found some promos that worked really well for me. I am staying on 7/7/06 for two nights.

I booked two rooms, one a junior suite for $209 and the other a regular room for $169.

It seemed that there were a number of promos running over the next few months with some pretty good rates. Right now you can get a room for $199, whereas my previous reservation was for $265.

Ahh...

It appears that they are close to sold out one day over Memorial Day weekend, which is when my stay is.

I ended paying a slightly higher rate ($229) for the executive room at the Sheraton as part of the Buy 2, Get 1 Free Promo.

Yes, rates at the Westin look very, very reasonable over the summer with various promos. Same for the Sheraton. Quite welcome. I'd like to try the Marriott, but its always more. Memorial Day, the Marriott was attractive with a stay for breakfast $189 rate, but with one night free on a 3 night stay, the savings at the Sheraton was too significant for me to ignore.

Werstin - hands down

Westin!

Sheraton Boston is old. Westin is much much nicer.

So I ended up reserving the Executive Room at the Sheraton, and asking for a River View. Hopefully, it works out. If I'm not really thrilled with it, hopefully they'll let me change the type of room even though I've prepaid for this type.


Good choice. Let us know how it turn out. I have always been given rooms that are accessed using the elevator at the end of the hallway (if your back is to the elevtor, you will face the lobby where the reception desks are). Hope you get those room.

If you get a suite on a high floor facing the review, the view is absolutely exceptional in the Sheraton. The decor was adequate.

Given that suite, Sheraton all the way if you are a sucker for views like I am.

Yes, I am. In my one other stay at the Sheraton, the first room I was given was huge, but kind of run down, with a view of the tower next to it. And it was next to an elevator. So I stood there for about a minute, called and asked for another room.

The new room was much smaller, the decor was newer. Maybe it wasn't perfect either, but I really don't remember because the window looked out on an absolutely panoramic view of Boston, the river, Cambridge. It was captivating. I don't remember a thing really about the room, but that's the point. The view was worth it!

So hopefully I can get something like that again, only in a nicer room. I'll report back. Thanks for everyone's help.

Yes, I am. In my one other stay at the Sheraton, the first room I was given was huge, but kind of run down, with a view of the tower next to it. And it was next to an elevator. So I stood there for about a minute, called and asked for another room.

The new room was much smaller, the decor was newer. Maybe it wasn't perfect either, but I really don't remember because the window looked out on an absolutely panoramic view of Boston, the river, Cambridge. It was captivating. I don't remember a thing really about the room, but that's the point. The view was worth it!

So hopefully I can get something like that again, only in a nicer room. I'll report back. Thanks for everyone's help.

Just so you know, the larger original room you had was most likely in the South Tower, which has larger standard rooms. It hasn't been renovated recently...but is bigger.

The good news (since you're getting a exec. room) is that all club rooms/suites/exec. rooms are in the North tower, which is the tower that overlooks the river (and has been renovated).

taking my wife there for our anniversary

(once again a lowly basic member due to major decline in business travel)....

using points for a 1 nt stay.

thoughts? thanks so much.....

pmv


hands down the westin. far far far better in every respect.

Anyone have thoughts on the new Westin Boston Waterfront opening next month? How is the area?

Its really not a "touristy" area. Its a commercial area, down by the conference facilities, offices and commerical warehouses, etc. Very convenient to Logan by car/taxi.

Copley is a much, much better location for visitors.

Need a family suite in Boston. Looks like they have junior suites at the Sheraton, and the Westin Copley is close.. Preferences???? Advice????

Thanks

Welcome to FT!
The two properties are in very close promixity to each other.
I'd take the Westin over the Sheraton any day. It's got a much nicer feel to it, and the rooms are spacious and well, it's a Westin.

You may want to take a look at the New England/Boston forum under Travel&Dining.

Here's a recent thread (from a few days ago) on the same topic:

Recommendation please: Westin or Sheraton Copley in Boston (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=556269)

Plus there are many others.... search on "Boston" in this (Starwood) forum.

You did not mention if you had elite status with SPG. I just checked out of the Sheraton BOS yesterday and on a very low rate, they upgraded me to an Club level exeutive suite.......killer view of the Charles and Backbay, and if you will have family with you, the free breakfest in the lounge is a big plus!

The location is equally good for both.




Need a family suite in Boston. Looks like they have junior suites at the Sheraton, and the Westin Copley is close.. Preferences???? Advice????

Thanks

I've commented many a time here on FT over the years on the BOS properties and will add that the CLUB FLOORS at the Sheraton have all been redone over the past year and are in significantly better shape than they were for a LONG time before now. Additionally, those long corridors on floors 26, 27, 28, and 29 have also all been completely redone with new carpeting, lighting and wall coverings.

Believe me, if you'd seen the old, you'd really appreciate the new!

With the new Sheraton Club rooms in place, if you have PLAT status, you'll be pleased with what you get. Also, this hotel has something nutty like 85 suites, so your odds of a reasonable upgrade are solid.

That said, I still really like the crispness (if that makes any sense) of the Westin. The views from the Westin rooms that overlook Copley Square and the Charles River are just spectacular.

Either hotel does fine -- both well run and well maintained. All a matter of taste.

We just booked an award stay at the Westin with the help of advice on this board. It was hard to part with that many points, but with the rumored potential devaluation and the going rate for a hotel next week/weekend in Boston due to college graduations and reunions ($460+) it didn't seem so awful!

kersie, would like to hear from you after your stay at the Westin.

Ahh...

It appears that they are close to sold out one day over Memorial Day weekend, which is when my stay is.

Heh...

I stayed at the Sheraton Boston over Memorial Day weekend as well.

What did you think of the "activity" that was taking place over the weekend in and around the hotel? ;) :D

A.J.

I work at the Pru and was quite amused by the variety of costumes around the Hynes on Friday. It's not everyday that one sees not one but two women dressed in cat ears and tails in line at Dunkin Donuts, especially since they were not together.

kersie, would like to hear from you after your stay at the Westin.

I will happily do so. I may also be able to provide a review/comparison of the Sheraton Commodore in Cambridge. From all that I've read on this board (and heard from my husband), it's not much of a hotel, but we need to be in that area for most of the weekend anyway. We had been planning on staying with my mother-in-law over the weekend in the Boston suburbs, but she up and decided to go to Mexico. With the 20% off for weekend stays promo, staying there seems more convenient for our plans and better than blowing another 20K worth of points on, although if this devaluation actually happens I may be kicking myself.

Anybody have any thoughts on spending 20K points for the Westin v. $350 for 2 nights at the Commodore?

Anybody have any thoughts on spending 20K points for the Westin v. $350 for 2 nights at the Commodore?

I've stayed at both. The Sheraton Commander has a good location, right off the Square by a half-block or so. The rooms are okay; some a bit on the small side, especially compared to the Westin. But the furnishings are charming faux-period, bed comfortable and the staff responsive. I'd stay there again if I didn't need to be right at Copley Place for most of my stays, though the Sheraton Commander is only a 5-10 minute walk from the T and downtown.

However, I'd rather spend the points at the Westin, given the choice and the price you cite for the Commander, unless you really think you'll be on the T a lot to get to Cambridge.

I've stayed at both. The Sheraton Commodore has a good location, right off the Square by a half-block or so. The rooms are okay; some a bit on the small side, especially compared to the Westin. But the furnishings are charming faux-period, bed comfortable and the staff responsive. I'd stay there again if I didn't need to be right at Copley Place for most of my stays, though the Sheraton Commodore is only a 5-10 minute walk from the T and downtown.

However, I'd rather spend the points at the Westin, given the choice and the price you cite for the Commodore, unless you really think you'll be on the T a lot to get to Cambridge.

It is a good location, but it's a little run down and the elevators take forever.

B/t/w, I believe it's the Sheraton Commander.

It is a good location, but it's a little run down and the elevators take forever.

B/t/w, I believe it's the Sheraton Commander.

You are, of course, correct. I'll go back and fix. Long week. At least I didn't mistype it Sheraton Commode.

taking my wife there for our anniversary

(once again a lowly basic member due to major decline in business travel)....

using points for a 1 nt stay.

thoughts? thanks so much.....

pmv

not even a contest- the westin hands down

Just finished up 5 mos. stint in Boston, during which we stayed at 4 hotels: Commander, Westin Copley, Sheraton Boston and Westin Waltham....

Commander - recently renovated rooms, nicely done. stately atmosphere. unfortunately, its in cambridge. This means taking a taxi everywhere. Moreover, my experience with Boston cabbies has been mixed, and on more than one occassion led a 10 min cab ride to be 35 mins.

Westin Copley - one of the more well known urban Westin properties. Amazing location, clean rooms, however, depending on what you end up paying for it, (prices varied from 200 - 500 / night), you're probably better off passing. As long as you can gaurantee an upgrade, it's not too bad. The staff is more "W" in their attitude, which is very unattractive (arrogant asses that need to remember I'm just as young as they are), but the doorman is stellar.

Sheraton Boston - good location, older mega-hotel. Rooms blow unless you get an upgrade to a suite (try and get into their mega-suites .. not sure I've ever been in such a large room at a Sherton). Staff isn't too friendly, but you dont expect them to be, there are 2000 other guests. Bathrooms = all designed for handicapped access (counter below waist-level) and poorly done (barely ceramic tiles)

Westin Waltham - too bad this hotel is in the suburbs. Newly redone rooms, decor match / beat Westin Copley. Unfortunately bathrooms are done in ceramic (vs. marble). Suites are nice. Staff really sells this place - the front desk folks are extremely helpful and totally personable.

anyway, just my thoughts

I work at the Pru and was quite amused by the variety of costumes around the Hynes on Friday.

The number of which and variety increased a lot on Saturday.........and slowing down on Sunday once the yearly "event" came to a close for this year.


It's not everyday that one sees not one but two women dressed in cat ears and tails in line at Dunkin Donuts, especially since they were not together.

Only 2?

Hmm....it must have been a slow time of day. ;)


On a more "on topic" note, I have stayed at the Sheraton Boston twice and each time......I have to request credit for my stay.

So far, this is the only Starwood hotel that I've stayed at since switching to SPG that I've had to do this.......

Perhaps I don't give them enough time (about a week), but all of the other SPG hotels that I've stayed at post within 1-3 days from the date of departure.

A.J.

Yeah, well I'm not quite so kind about the occupants of the hotel over Memorial Day.

We showed up Friday morning and were flat out shocked to see freak show central going on right at the Sheraton. It was totally out of control and a total disaster for a nice quiet weekend with your wife.

So upon checking in, I basically said that I had NOT signed up for this, and I wasn't happy, and was could they send me over to the Westin or something? Of course, I was on a pre-paid rate, so I knew that probably was not going to happen.

Anyway, the result was that they put me in the nice Executive King I had requested up on the Club Level. This ended up being a good solution because as has been noted, the Club Level has its own private elevators. Nobody with a costume every got on them, lets put it that way.

In speaking with the staff, by the way, they were not too pleased with the occupants of the hotel that weekend. I can't imagine they tipped too well and probably in general were not the easiest to deal with. I felt for them.

Anyway, the room itself was actually very very nice. It was VERY large, clean, in excellent shape with modern decor. The DESIGN left something to be designed, but the room provided stunning views with two banks of large windows. What didn't make much sense was that there was a seperate "dresser' sort of space with a mirror and coffemaker...and no electrical outlets. How do you make coffee or use a hairdryer (my wife, not me!) without electricity? The other thing was that the bathroom was ridiculously small. The room itself was the size of two regular rooms so there was a lot of space. But the tiny bathroom didn't fit.

All that being said, I was still quite pleased simply because of the view and the fact that the room was fresh and well maintained. I could tell that there is a bit of a problem with teh climate control because the far unit seemed to be spitting out a smoky type smell that clearly it was picking up from a room where somebody was smoking. It didn't affect us much because you couldn't smell it by the bed and closing the drapes trapped the smell, but something to note.

We only visited the Club Lounge once and were unimpressed. Again, the views were great. The breakfast offered was about what you'd get at a Microtel, with employees complaining about how hard their jobs were to boot. Not impressive.

The group at the hotel made it hard to really hang out anywhere else...the junior high school style dance in the meeting rooms was especially disturbing. But we didn't let it detract from our weekend and ended up pretty satisfied at the end of the day.

OK, since everyone here is talking around it: What KIND of event was going on at the Sheraton over Boston Memorial Day Weekend?

A science-fiction convention (which can account for costumes)? Or something else?

OK, since everyone here is talking around it: What KIND of event was going on at the Sheraton over Boston Memorial Day Weekend?

A science-fiction convention (which can account for costumes)? Or something else?

It was a Japanese anime/manga convention....one of 4 that were taking place around North America that weekend.

Anime Boston

Over 9,000 attendees (which ranks it as a moderately sized anime con....not even close to the largest) .....with a good deal of them "cosplaying" as characters from various anime series.

It was primarily held at the nearby Hynes Convention Center....with only a small portion (press room, registration, manga library, dance) of it taking place at the Sheraton Boston.

FWIW, the Sheraton was the official convention hotel (IIRC, the Hilton was the overflow hotel).....so, many of the attendees booked rooms there well in advance.

This was the 2nd year in a row that the Hynes/Sheraton combo was used for this annual event......due to it simply "outgrowing" the previous location (IIRC, Boston Park Plaza).

Normally, it's held in April..........but for various reasons, that wasn't possible for 2006.

A.J.

It might have been a small portion of events that actually took place there, but they totally took over the whole place.

Picture pre to overgrown teens dressed up in everything from bunny costumes to scary wannabe sexy goth chick wear to a dude who carried around a huge cross on his back all weekend and you'll get the picture.

As one might expect, you get together that many people, especially in that age group, it was very loud and manners were, shall we say, lacking at times. Not what you would want for a weekend getaway. And, if you are a hotel employee, your worst nightmare.

And, if you are a hotel employee, your worst nightmare.

Not necessarily. Some hotels actually actively court fan conventions such as this due to the revenue they bring in. I admit, when I used to attend and speak at science fiction and fantasy conventions in the past, social graces can be lacking among some attendees. Though sometimes that's what draws the fans together in the first place: a sense of not belonging anywhere else.

Taking this back OT from my digression, I've also been surprised when I've stumbled upon these conventions when on vacation or business travel. I just don't know how a hotel can realistically give other guests an advance heads up about what's going on at a convention hotel; heck, I might find a Harley Davidson conference offensive. That's the luck of the draw at a hotel that tries to get convention business.

Our stay at the Westin was a huge disappointment. On arrival to the lobby at 10 PM, we were greeted with the thumping music from the nearby bar. If I'd wanted to stay at a W-type property, that's what I would have booked. (I'm 26, so if I'm upset with this, I can't imagine other people are happy). I could barely hear the reservation agent over the noise.

Only "upgrade" we could get as golds was to a higher floor but it didn't have our bed preference, so we opted to keep our original room.

The same front desk people had no idea what might possibly be open at that time of night other than the bar. I know there's not a lot open, but there are things open, and I can't imagine we were the only ones to ask this question.

The rooms are fine, but unimpressive at this price level. I was apalled that there were not bathrobes in the rooms. Even the suburban Sheraton by my parents' house has bathrobes. They did bring them up on request, and they were quite fluffy, but I shouldn't have to ask.

The real kicker was the pool area. After my brother-in-law's graduation, my husband and I decided to take a mid-afternoon hot tub. Unfortunately, when we got there, we found clear evidence that there had been illicit activity in the area (it's pretty graphic, so I'd rather not go into it here). It was really pretty awful, and being that it was 3 PM in the afternoon, I'm just not sure when it happened and how they failed to notice earlier. That shows a lack of monitoring, which is a real problem. It was well-handled and the front desk manager called around some other hotels to find us a pool we could use. We wound up at the Marriott's monitored and much nicer pool -- walking through Copley in our bathing suits and coverups. Still, shouldn't have ever happened that we as guests had to discover that. We were promised points but I was still somewhat horrified and that doesn't really appropriately deal with the issue in the first place -- plus I doubt we'll ever see the points. The gym here is pretty nice and a decent size for a hotel gym. (I just checked my account now -- it turns out that we were comped 5,000 points, so we effectively got back a 1/2 night's stay. I actually think that's more than fair, and definitely more than I was expecting.)

Staff at Sheraton Commander was way more receptive, from arrival to departure. We were upgraded to a corner club room floor, which was spacious with a LOT of windows. Not quite high enough to see much but steeples, but still pretty nice. Lounge unfortunately not open on weekends, but we did get breakfast vouchers anyway.

Our sheets were not perfectly clean when we got back from dinner at midnight (they had been cleaned but had stains on them that I didn't want to sleep on). We were brought up new sheets that we had to change ourselves. That was bad. :td: (I don't make beds under the best of circumstances, and these are three flat sheets -- a disaster.)

We got turndown service here, which I was surprised by (didn't get it at the Westin, why would we get it here?)

Location was super-convenient for us as we needed to be in Cambridge all weekend. I liked that we were near but not on top of the square and amidst some of the beautiful Radcliffe landscaping.

The elevators here are a disaster. They are way too small to comfortably hold more than 2 people with luggage and there aren't enough of them to service the rooms. Nor can you just take the stairs -- they are not conveniently located and only one set goes to the lobby.

When we were checking out (at 4 PM -- a great perk to have!), we called down to ask for a cab. We were told there were some outside and that one would be asked to wait for us. When I requested our receipt at the front desk, agent told me cab was waiting outside. Not so much. We were able to flag a cab no problem, but that irked me. In a city where you can call cabs, that shouldn't have happened.

Despite the flaws, I felt that the Sheraton was a much better "value" -- for what we were paying, we got a lot more and the staff was a lot nicer. I can't imagine actually paying what they ask for the Westin despite its location.

I'd also like to point out that contrary to earlier messages in this thread, the downtown Sheraton isn't so far away from the Westin -- about a 5-10 minute walk, so "location" shouldn't be a huge decision-making factor. I did like being able to walk through Copley while my husband was showering, but even the Sheraton is connected through the pathways.

I recently stayed at the Sheraton Boston (on Dalton St.) I wanted to say how amazing the amenities and service were. I definitely rate it 2 thumbs up!!!

The sun deck and retractable roof on the pool deck were excellent features as well as the view of the Charles river from our suite.

The service we were provided at check in and in the club lounge was second to none.

Congrats to this property on making this a perfect stay!!

Just stayed at the The Westin Copley Place and reserved a Junior Suite and as a Platinum that was all I got. Would have appreciated a Deluxe One Bedroom Suite (which theoretically I should get even if reserve a regular room), as I assume that is still considered a standard suite.

The Junior "Suite" is really just a large room. Nothing special at all and the bathroom was tiny.

On the other hand the view was great.

Just stayed at the The Westin Copley Place and reserved a Junior Suite and as a Platinum that was all I got. Would have appreciated a Deluxe One Bedroom Suite .

Scoring those on a Plat upgrade is as rare as hen's teeth (as they say). I got one maybe 5 years ago (longer??) that was really fabulous. The bathroom was monstrous and exceptional -- this was immediately before the Westin Heavenly Bed launch, however, and I do recall there was a polyester bed spread on the bed. ugh

http://hotels.travelzoo.com/lodging-hotels/252037

Looks like a good deal - Westin Waterfront - through 12/30 - $149 a night (including Thanksgiving)!

I recently stayed at the Sheraton Boston (on Dalton St.) I wanted to say how amazing the amenities and service were. I definitely rate it 2 thumbs up!!!


I totally agree - Sheraton hands down over Westin. Better beds, amazing pool and amazing view of the Charles River. And it has a lounge. When I asked the Westin staff about a lounge, they had no clue what it was. :rolleyes:

I've stayed at Westin Copley & Sheraton Back Bay, but recently tried the new Westin Waterfront.

The location can be a drawback for some, but I found it a plus with the Silver Line to Logan 1 block away. The silver line also goes to South Station with T connections. It's an "up & coming" part of Boston and connected to the new Expo center.

Hotel looks like more of a suburban version of a Westin, but inside is great. I really like the lobby with the huge trees and warm stone walls. It's brand new, so everything is in great condition and the rooms have flat screen TV's. Starbucks was not open yet, but will be a welcome addition as there is not a lot close-by.

I checked in at 9AM, and was surprised they had a room. They apologized that it was a "standard" room and that I would/could be upgraded later. I didn't try later in the day for an upgrade as I was very happy to just get in so early and even my "standard" room was fine, had the Panna water, etc. Platinum status acknowledged, amenity offered and thanked for my business.

For tourists doing the typical Boston Back Bay & Downtown visits, I still think the Westin Copley is the best bet, but you will pay $$$$.

Wow....I did a search about Sheraton Boston and brought up this thread...when I was only a newbie :D

So, I ended up staying at the Westin Copley Place in 2005. I absolutely loved it. I was upgraded to part of the Imperial suite with a LARGE bathroom (separate shower/bath, towel warmer, separate vanity, etc) and very nice amenities. Service was also excellent. I had a small issue and the SM took good care of me. Since then, I have put this place on the very top of my Starwood list.

Well, it's time for me to go back to Boston again (wow..it's been an year) I think I may have just made a mistake by booking a nonrefunable stay at the Sheraton :( Why? Why did I abandon my favorite hotel to go to the Sheraton? Temptation! Like last time (where Sheraton was cheaper and offered the extra freebies), Sheraton was offering something that was hard to pass up. The rates at Sheraton and Westin were identical (both very good though I must say), however, because of the new england promotion, my stay at Sheraton will give me 5000 SPG points over 0 at Westin. :eek: :( So, I made an impulsive decision and booked a nonrefundable stay at the Sheraton Boston :eek:. Now I am kind of regretting it.

Please make me feel better :( any new positive experiences at the Sheraton?

Well, at least this stay will be a special stay. Last year in Boston, it was my 2nd stay as Platinum. This year in Boston, it will be my Plat requalifying stay :) AND my UA 1K qualifying trip :)

Bliss --

Don't sweat it. For starters, getting the Imperial Suite at the Westin happens once in a lifetime, so that will never happen there again anyway!

A few things to remember:

- the Sheraton has nearly 100 suites of all sizes and shapes. If you're a PLAT, your chances are quite good for a nice upgrade. By now I believe ALL of the Sheraton's rooms have been redone and you shouldn't encounter any of the dated rooms mentioned earlier in this old thread. (For comparison, the Westin has something like 24 suites -- most of which are those corner rooms that shouldn't be called suites anyway.)

- The Sheraton runs a very nice Club Lounge with a considerable spread twice daily. The staff there is also good.

- The location of BOTH hotels is ideal really.

I still split my stays between the hotels and....all other things being equal.... with a 5K bonus offer, I'd have tipped to the Sheraton this time, too. You won't have any problems -- stop worrying! :cool:

As much as a zoo as Sheraton can be because it's connected to the convention center, it's a good location. And it has (or at least used to) have a huge pool with a retractable roof that they can open when the weather is nice. Although snow falling onto it can be cool too.

Don't forget the new Westin waterfront. It's more of the new generation cookie-cutter layout Westin's, but still nice, new and so easy to get to/from Logan Airport.

I think the advice you were originally given is still solid. I've stayed at both the Sheraton Boston and Westin Copley multiple times this year.

If there's no price differential, I tend to pick the Westin -- realizing I will, at best, get a corner room or a "junior suite," have to request the free bottled water daily (it is never left automatically, in my experience), and have nice, modern rooms.

If there is a price difference, I pick the Sheraton -- realizing I will almost always get upgraded to a suite, get more personal service (including a personal, not canned, pre-arrival email and a welcome amenity in addition to my Plat points), and have slightly dated, but comfortable rooms.

Live a little. Try both.

Also, don't forget the Sheraton Boston has the check-in kiosks. A quick trip to check-in will net you 500 bonus points. Just make sure that if you choose an upgrade not on the Club Level you go up to the counter afterward to get your key encoded.

I personally prefer the Sheraton over Westin - never have I gotten an upgrade at the Westin while I find the service at the Sheraton to be the best of any Starwood anywhere. They are really trying to take care of SPG Gold and Plats.

They are really trying to take care of SPG Gold and Plats.

That sounds cool.
I'm staying at the Sheraton mid Dec. How would they take care of this lowly Gold? More importantly, what would a Preferred Room be? ;)

That sounds cool.
I'm staying at the Sheraton mid Dec. How would they take care of this lowly Gold? More importantly, what would a Preferred Room be? ;)

A month ago during a busy week, this lowly Gold was taken care of as follows:

1) My preferred room was a high floor river view room in whatever tower faces the river (can't remember whether it was north or south, but one tower faces the river and the other tower does not). That room must have just gone non-smoking because it had a strong smell of smoke. So I opted for a room in the other tower and that room was great.

2) I had asked for a club level room but got turned down. However, I did get club level lounge access. The lounge is as described earlier in this thread -- computer terminals with free internet, continental breakfast, appetizers, cringe-inducing decor, etc.

3) Personalized pre-arrival e-mail welcome, etc., as described earlier. Nice touch.

I was really impressed with the service, especially given the zoo this place is with the convention center adjacent and overall, I was very happy with my stay.

How are the club suites? They appear to be junior suites with a small sitting area. Does anyone know the approximate square footage and layout? Are these rooms any different in terms of furnishings, hardware, toiletries, etc. than the regular rooms? Thanks.

...And since I lived a few years in Boston, here's my two cents...

Stay at the Westin, it is nicer, and is that much closer to the shops on Newberry St.

However, if there is any chance you will be going to Cambridge a lot, I would consider the Charles Hotel. It is in Harvard Square, and is my favorite hotel on that side of town.

I need a little help!

I am planning a trip to Boston in the fall and I am trying to decide between Boston Copley and Sheraton Boston. How are those those places? I heard so many good things about the Westin Copley. Can anyone tell me more about the place or direct me to a link of a previously posted thread (I could not find it via the search function as always) Are they both near the subway station? (I won't be getting a rental so public transit is very important) How likely is it to get upgraded to the junior suite (134 of them?) at Westin and Club at Sheraton as a Platinum?

Here are the rates:
$199 at Westin. Just the room
$159 at Sheraton - Breakfast for 2 delievered to room + a bottle of wine and cheese
*Do platinums get breakfast vouchers at either places?

Which one would you pick?

Westin. 'Nuff said.

A month ago during a busy week, this lowly Gold was taken care of as follows:

1) My preferred room was a high floor river view room in whatever tower faces the river (can't remember whether it was north or south, but one tower faces the river and the other tower does not). That room must have just gone non-smoking because it had a strong smell of smoke. So I opted for a room in the other tower and that room was great.

2) I had asked for a club level room but got turned down. However, I did get club level lounge access. The lounge is as described earlier in this thread -- computer terminals with free internet, continental breakfast, appetizers, cringe-inducing decor, etc.

3) Personalized pre-arrival e-mail welcome, etc., as described earlier. Nice touch.

I was really impressed with the service, especially given the zoo this place is with the convention center adjacent and overall, I was very happy with my stay.


Thanks - I'm now looking forward to my stay. :)
They did send me a very nice reply when i asked them for directions from logan airport using public transport.

I stayed at the Westin Copley last January for a week for work. I live in New York now, but grew up in Boston. The Westin Copley is in a great loacation for Boston. Tons of bars, shopping, food, and transportation. And the rooms there were really big. I was only gold at the time too. Maybe I just have good memories of the hotel because I got lucky that week.

Bump.

How are the club suites? They appear to be junior suites with a small sitting area. Does anyone know the approximate square footage and layout? Are these rooms any different in terms of furnishings, hardware, toiletries, etc. than the regular rooms? Thanks.

Am here at the Sheraton Boston until Wednesday. The Sheraton Boston will be my hotel of choice in Boston herein. At check in I was upgraded to club level (booked the lowest possible rate) without asking, even though I'm a mere Gold. A lovely red/blue Ralph Lauren theme seems to run through the hotel decor. Great service all round from all staff. Free internet plentiful - club lounge and lobby (both wifi access and PC terminals). The hotel is conveniently located and around the corner from some excellent pubs. I heartily reccomend this hotel! ^

I really like the Sheraton. The club floor has a spectacular view and the rooms are very nice.

They have a new full-time SPG coordinator who is making an effort to meet SPG members, the front desk staff is being instructed about the program rules, suites are being pre-assigned, and they've been running a series of "refer someone else from your company, get Starpoints" promos that can be quite lucrative if you're in a position to send them any business. I booked 2 rooms for my family there on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving at a $149 rate, and BOTH rooms were upgraded to suites - one a very nice and large Exec suite, the other one of the junior suites with a small sitting room. We also got full breakfast certs in lieu of the lounge, which was closed that week iirc. And they've upgraded the club floor rooms since the last time I stayed there a year or so ago; the overall design is still a bit dated, but the lighting and carpets are cleaner and more contemporary.

All in all, a big ^ for the effort this hotel is making. I like the Copley as well, but SPG results have been a bit hit or miss in my experience. I'll stick to the Sheraton as long as they keep making SPG guests feel particularly welcome.

Westin. 'Nuff said.

I agree. I live five blocks away and put my family up in the Westin. The Sheraton's a bit farther away but not nearly as nice.

I'm of two minds about the Sheraton and Westin. While the Westin is a bit classier, the Sheraton is indeed nicer to Plats. Distance isn't really an issue -- both the Sheraton and Westin are connected through a series of skybridges and are relatively close to each other.

However, prices have been going up so much at both properties (sometimes the Sheraton is more expensive, for some reason -- perhaps conventions), I'm considering my next weeklong stay at the Sheraton Commander, a relatively short T ride away. And nearly $100 less a night than either.

I've stayed frequently at the Westin Copley and have found it to be hit and miss. As a Plat have received upgrades to a junior suite (larger room with a sofa) about 50% of the time. The bathrooms are small, the decor is pretty bland, and I've noticed lately that the rooms are becoming really worn - badly stained carpets, torn upholstery, etc. The Westin was sold out on my last trip to Boston and I stayed across the street at the Fairmont and was treated well there. I may try the Sheraton next time.

I just completed my 3 night stay at the Sheraton Boston. Having stayed at the Westin Copley Place's Imperial Suite previously (and as sbtinme pointed out, an once in a life time opportunity, but I'd like to prove him wrong :D), I had fairly low expectations for the Sheraton.

Check in
I entered the hotel from the Prudential center (from the T) and walked into groups of people attending company holiday gatherings in the ballrooms. It took me a while to figure out that I was actually on the 2nd floor, and not the hotel lobby. I took the escalator to the lobby and found a much quieter atmosphere. At about 6PM, the check in line was empty. I walked up to a cheerful check in agent. She acknowledged my platinum status, offered platinum amenity, and sent me up to the (ahem, sbtinme :D) Presidential Suite (or Fenway). She also wrote down a special extention number and told me to call if I needed anything ^.

Suite
I took the express elevator to the 28th floor and found my room to be at the end of the corridor. That's always a good sign. I entered through a marble foyer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521315/in/set-72157594423896450/) and found the suite to be splitted in half. One side of the suite was the living room (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521457/in/set-72157594423896450/) while the other side was the bedroom (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521042/in/set-72157594423896450/). The livingroom and bedroom resided in the corners of the building thus giving me a total of 6 windows with astounishing day view (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/325719435/in/set-72157594423896450/) and night view. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521579/in/set-72157594423896450/) The living room had a 42 inch plasma tv (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521165/in/set-72157594423896450/) hooked up to a bose surroud theater system completed with subwoofer and a DVD/CD/radio system :eek: ^. (It sure was nice being able to watch the Dexter finale on that thing :D) The living room also had a wet bar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521101/in/set-72157594423896450/) with a refridgerator and sink.

The bedroom had the usual sweet sleeper bed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521269/in/set-72157594423896450/) with a bose wave alarm clock ^. The bed was positioned to fall asleep/wake up with the best view in boston (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/325719825/in/set-72157594423896450/). There was an additional dresser, walk in closet, and a large desk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521611/in/set-72157594423896450/) equppied with a fax machine/printer. There was a full bath and a 0.5 bath in the foyer.

All in all, the suite was about 1000 sq. feet :D

location
After settling in and unpacking, I decided to walk around Boston.

The Sheraton is connected to the Prudential Center with a couple of T stations nearby. There is a T station within the prudential center. However, since only the Green Heath line runs through prudential, it has far less trains coming and leaving than the nearby Hynes Convention center station. Green line Boston College, Riverside, and something Circle all serve the Hynes station. The only bad thing about Hynes is that you have to walk outside in the cold air across Boylston to get to it. Personally, I'd much prefer going to the Hynes station to avoid the crowd in the mall and with higher train frequency. The Sheraton is located near the West end of Newbury st while Westin is located near the East end of Newbury st (closer to the Common). I find that there are more shops and restaurants closer to Westin than the Sheraton. However, they are not that far from each other and I was able to walk from Sheraton to Boston Common without major effort.

Extras
After strolling around town, I returned to the suite and found this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemonbliss/324521191/in/set-72157594423896450/) on the dining table. It was an amazing spread of assorted cheese, fruit, crackers, bread, and a bottle of sparkling wine along with the manager's card. As if the sutie upgrade wasn't already enough, I was amazed by the wonderful platter.

Service
Every employee I encountered was extremely cheerful and helpful. Housekeeping staff was wonderful in keeping the room clean. They certainly paid attention to details. Since the suite was on the club floor, they stocked the suite with bottled water each day. However, the two bottled water just wasn't enough, so we bought some extra water. The next day, housekeeping staff saw that we bought extra water, so they stocked the mini bar with 4 additional bottles :eek: :D ^. That, to me, was very impressive.

Additional service
There was a Yahoo Link center in the lobby which consisted of computer stations with complimentary internet access for hotel guests in 30-45 min intervals. Guests could also choose to print their files for up to 5 pages free ^. I found that to be a nice touch.

I had yet another amazing experience at a Starwood Hotel. I guess there is something about Boston that just makes me want to go back and back and back. I have a give Sheraton Boston a big ^ ^ and thank you SPG for treating your most loyal guests exceptionally well.

Maybe you should change your handle to BlessedWorld ?
You sure do seem to get some nice upgrades-could not happen to a nicer fella :)

I stay at the Commander 8-10 times per year, usually 3 nights at a pop. I don't think the suites are that great if you're by yourself. I've settled into getting the Executive King ending in 33 which is a large corner room with tons of windows, and a long but narrow bathroom which once you get used to it is fine. But I'm not a light sleeper, light sleepers should ask for an Executive King in the back as the 33 rooms are right above the taxi stand.

The food at the Commander, however, is pathetic. The young lady who runs the club room is very nice, but breakfast is a high-carb affair and evening snacks are pedestrian. The restaurant and room service are truly worthless. In the evening I take the subway from our offices back to Harvard Square and get dinner and dessert and stop at the convenience store before walking back. It's about a four block walk from the main Harvard Square T stop entrance to the Commander.

BlissWorld - I just checked out of the Sheraton Boston today too. ;) They treated this Gold very well (as well as a Gold can be treated anyway:p ), per my comments above. ^

Were you at club lounge during the GM reception thingy last night? They let club guests enter the lounge as per usual - but plus an awesome spread of food and free booze. :D ^

BlissWorld - I just checked out of the Sheraton Boston today too. ;) They treated this Gold very well (as well as a Gold can be treated anyway:p ), per my comments above. ^

Were you at club lounge during the GM reception thingy last night? They let club guests enter the lounge as per usual - but plus an awesome spread of food and free booze. :D ^ I went there briefly on Monday night (actually to just use the printer, but they didnt have one) and saw a table with prime rib and rack of lamb :eek: It looked really nice but I wasn't hungry when I went and I really wanted Maggiano's that night :p

Due to January rates and availability at the Sheraton Boston (which I like, as I'm treated well as a Plat) and the Westin Copley (which I also like, but treats me pretty average as a Plat), I'm trying the Sheraton Commander for my monthly week in Boston for the first time in 2+ years. Rate is nearly $100/night less than the other two, and I don't mind the T (or the walk from the T).

Should be an interesting stay. I will miss Osushi, right inside the Westin entrance, though. Any food recommendations in Harvard Square?

I just completed my 3 night stay at the Sheraton Boston.

Suite
I took the express elevator to the 28th floor and found my room to be at the end of the corridor. That's always a good sign. I entered through a marble foyer and found the suite to be splitted in half.

I stayed at in a suite "at the end of the corridor" also on Dec 19. I thought it was on 28, so wondering how we seemed to have had the same great room.:)
I agree - an AWESOME place to stay. Much preferred over the Copley, which has no lounge, and too much attitude from the staff.

Due to January rates and availability at the Sheraton Boston (which I like, as I'm treated well as a Plat) and the Westin Copley (which I also like, but treats me pretty average as a Plat), I'm trying the Sheraton Commander for my monthly week in Boston for the first time in 2+ years. Rate is nearly $100/night less than the other two, and I don't mind the T (or the walk from the T).

Should be an interesting stay. I will miss Osushi, right inside the Westin entrance, though. Any food recommendations in Harvard Square?

If you like Vietnamese food, the former Pho Pasteur, now known as "Le's" (same owner, now he names it after himself) is a pretty good value. There's one at 36 JFK Place, just down the block a ways from the Coop, in an indoor-mini-mall kind of place with a bunch of food shops.

Pho Pasteur is kind of a chain of Vietnamese restaurants in and around Boston. One of my regular stops when I stay at the Commander, and I used to hit up the one in Allston now and then when I lived just off Comm Ave a few years back.

I stayed at the beautiful new Westin Waterfront this past week and was VERY dissapointed about not getting upgraded to a suite. The hotel was 10% Occupied and they failed to upgrade me as a platnium.

As there are many threads regarding this property, I'm going to move this one. Also feel free to contact *wood as indicated by the sticky at the top of this forum.

ldsant
*wood Moderator

Hi,

Just made plat... have been gold for the better part of the year. Looking forward to the new bennies. My first trip as a plat will be a Boston trip around Jan 10th-15th. Which hotel should I target for a nice experience? I'd like to stay downtown... Westin Waterfront?

Hi,

Just made plat... have been gold for the better part of the year. Looking forward to the new bennies. My first trip as a plat will be a Boston trip around Jan 10th-15th. Which hotel should I target for a nice experience? I'd like to stay downtown... Westin Waterfront?
I personally find the best Boston hotel from a Plat's perspective to be the Sheraton Boston. Great SPG co-ordinator, the best upgrades I've received anywhere - consistently, a good lounge (which neither Westin have) and 500 bonus points for checking-in via the kiosk. Doesn't get much better than that!

Westin Waterfront isn't downtown in Boston, though it's accessible easily via the T Silver Line connecting to the Red and then Green Lines. The hotel is in the middle of nowhere, which is slowly becoming a "somewhere" as additional businesses move into the Seaport district. I stayed there once or twice because it's walking distance to my client's office and very convenient to the Silver Line T from the Airport. But I wouldn't want to stay there as a visitor to Boston.

Sheraton Boston is right in the Back Bay.

Sheraton Commander in Cambridge is right at Harvard Square, so there's lots of food, entertainment, interesting sites right there, plus a few stops on the Red Line to downtown.

Westin Copley (the original Westin in Boston) is right at Copley Square in the Back Bay, and is connected to the Prudential Center shopping and office complex, and through the walkway from the Pru over to the Hynes convention center, connected through the Shearaton which is adjacent to the Hynes. Boston's own version (in smaller scale) of the underground or indoor connections in other winter cities like Montreal.

My personal preference in terms of location would be the Westin Copley as first choice, Sheraton Boston 2nd, Sheraton Commander in Cambridge 3rd, and the Westin Waterfront as the last choice for a first visit to Boston.

If you're more interested in the "hotel experience as a plat" rather than location to Boston sights, I'd still recommend against the huge convention-style Westin. I got an ok upgrade to a large corner harborview room there, but not to a suite. There's no SPG Gold/Plat lounge, no breakfast freebies. I've gotten suites or huge rooms at the Sheraton Commander a few times. Years ago as an SPG nobody, I got a really nice large room at the Westin Copley. As an SPG nothing, I didn't particularly like the Sheraton Boston other than location, and the Westin Copley is in a better location, since it's right in Copley Square rather than at the far end of the interesting part of the Back Bay.

There's a master thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=639331) about all the Boston SPG properties, in this forum.

ive gotten upgd to a nice suite twice at the new westin in boston. imho boston's spg properties should be a touch better. the Westin copley is ok but dated as well, location not bad given is back bay address. For us who need downtown, i always end up at the hyatt on lafayette... hence my plat status on hyatt....... New Westin not bad though, only a $5-8 cab ride to downtown...

As we do have a Master Thread on Boston hotels, I'm going to merge this with that thread. If the OP needs this particular thread to be reopened, please PM me.

Thanks to MarkXS for providing the link at the end of his analysis! ^

ldsant
*wood Moderator

Well, I need to be convenient to the Hyatt Regency in Cambridge, but convenient means a cab ride <20min. I'm not too concerned about walking distance, since my girlfriend couldn't walk for any reasonable distance anyway, so we can take a cab to the right areas of town. With these two factors in mind, and niceness of the hotel being a prime concern, are we still looking at the Westin Copley, or does the Westin Waterfront come into play?

The Hyatt is right across the Charles, but not right on any of the subway lines. So you're probably cabbing it anyway. The Hyatt does run a free shuttle from the Kendall Square Red Line T station according to this link (http://cambridge.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/services/transportation/index.jsp). They say they also pick up and drop at the "Boston University" station on the Green Line. However having lived out by the B-train branch of the Green Line for the past 10 years until about a year ago, there is no such thing as the "Boston University" station. There are three separate BU stops in the middle of Commonwealth Ave on the surface part of that trolley line. I rode that daily for years and never saw a Hyatt shuttle at BU East, BU Central, or BU West, nor is there a real "station" where it would be appropriate to pick up.

So in terms of pure transporation ease over to the Hyatt, the Westin Waterfront might actually be easier. Two stops on the Silver Line to South Station, four short stops to Kendall, and a cab or the shuttle to the Hyatt. If cabbing it right from the hotel, it's probably about the same distance from either.

I did enjoy my stay at the Waterfront (other than all the fire false alarms I wrote about, but they handled them well). But to be more in the heart of Boston I'd still recommend the Sheraton Boston or the Westin Copley. And if your GF is already in Cambridge, then the Sheraton Commander might be a good choice. Fun location, short cab ride or 2 stops on the Red Line to Kendall for the Hyatt shuttle.

I personally find the best Boston hotel from a Plat's perspective to be the Sheraton Boston. Great SPG co-ordinator, the best upgrades I've received anywhere - consistently, a good lounge (which neither Westin have) and 500 bonus points for checking-in via the kiosk.

The kiosk-points are great. My one-night stay last week generated almost 2400 points. 390 for stay, 500 PLT, 500 Kiosk and 1000 for New England bonus. I received soo many more points in 2006 from all the bonuses that the points for nightly rate were almost incidental.