Trip Reports - OZ Followup LAX-ICN Jan 2009 + A/kit + cabin pic




Carfield
Jan 11, 09, 2:24 am
Follow up trip report on OZ F:

Just want to do a quick follow up on Asiana first class! As usual, here is the photo link for those, who do not want to read a trip report!

January 8, 2009
OZ 201 LAX-ICN Lv1210 Arr1830+1 Boeing 747-400 Combi HL7423

Asiana First Class Cabin on Boeing 747-400:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8QbNHDNy5bqMOQ
Asiana additional meal and enroute view pictures:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8QbNHDNy5bqMRo
Asiana Amenity kit (male), slippers and pajama:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8QbNHDNy5bqMV4

Due to a last minute engagement in Hong Kong, my mom and I have to return to Hong Kong from Los Angeles a week and half ago! With not too many options, I decide to go with American Express international airline program. The once again friendly and helpful AMEX travel agent provided a number of options. Despite China Airlines has the cheapest first class fare, I decided to go with Asiana and the price difference is really small - $200-300. We spent about $5800USD for this one-way trip including tax and all fees for two. It is not the great deal that I usually look for but with limited options and time frame, I decide to go with the AMEX. It at least makes me feel better when I pay the membership fee for the Platinum card this year.

Check-in was a bit slower than normal, as the party in front of me was frantically trying to repack their bags, which seemed to be a common occurrence even for the premium lines. People are still not used to the new 50lbs weight limit. The same Korean lady checked me again and immediately recognized me and wished me a “Happy New Year”! She immediately asked her colleague to check me in and my request for the “First Class” seats on my last segment from ICN to HKG – only two-class operation but since 747 was used, you can request the “first” class seats, but receive of course J service. The whole procedures was simple, and one very important benefit on flying OZ F is that there is a “porter” service and no need to drag my bags to the security checkpoints. The lady offered to escort us to the lounge, but we declined, as I was trying to get some magazines. The elevator to the Star Alliance lounge broke again and we had to climb up two floors (four flights) of stairs, which was not fun and definitely a hassle. LAX just could not get its act together. When I answered survey during the flight, I rated LAX as “poor”. Nothing much to report at the Star Alliance first class lounge, except the food selection remains poor and uninterested. The lady came to the lounge forty-five minutes prior to departure time and escorted us to the lounge.

Boarding began early at 11:44am, and the loading in J and Y looked pretty busy, but F class was very flight. The same lady escorted us all the way to the entrance of the cabin and I thanked her profusely. The first class F/As immediately helped us with our bags, and said, “feel free to sit anywhere in the cabin, as you are the only passengers this afternoon”! I immediately said 1A and 1K, and the whole cabin looked fresh and smart. The only other passenger was the quiet reserve cockpit crew sat at 4K.

The meal was the same as my last trip report, so I don’t need to repeat the menu transcript. However, I have chosen the caviar as my starter choice and the bibimbap as my main course choice. So the pictures shown are mostly items that I have not chosen on the previous trip. So if you want to see the full menu, please refer to my earlier report. The F/As are as great as ever, and with such a light load, they are a bit more flexible, and the lunch felt less rushed.

Just some plane-spotting note at LAX:
Air New Zealand Boeing 747-400 ZK-SUJ resting at LA during the day
Cathay Pacific Boeing 747-400 B-HOS arriving early from HK as CX 882 and returning later as CX 881!
Singapore Airlines Boeing 747-400 9V-SPJ as SQ 11 back to NRT and SIN
Lufthansa Boeing 747-400 D-ABVU
American Boeing 777-200ER N754AN heading to NRT
China Eastern Airbus A340-600 B-6051 heading to Shanghai Pudong

Flight fact:
Gate was 123A this afternoon at LAX, and two doors are used to board the plane. Boarding time was 11:44am, and then door was closed at 12:11pm. We pushed back at 12:13pm, and we took off from R/W25R at 12:31pm. We hit a really rough spot at 1:32pm, and the soup from my lunch spilled all over the tray. We later hit another two spots at 6pm and 7pm. Descent began at 12:28am LAX time/5:28pm Seoul local time. We landed on R/W33R at 6:04pm, and parked at gate 43 at 6:19pm. The plane would continue to Ho Chi Minh City.

Flying time was estimated to be eleven hours and thirty-three minutes, but due to strong headwind and avoidance of some moderate turbulence, our actual flying time was twelve hours and thirty-three minutes. The routing was a bit different from December, as we hugged along the Western coast of the United States, Canada, Alaska, and then into the Siberia, Kurile Islands, and then Dokdo and Uleungdo before turning towards Incheon. We first climbed to 32,000feet as we passed Santa Maria, San Luis Obispo, Monterrey, and then descent towards 30,000feet as we hit a really rough spot. We then climbed back to 34,000feet as we got closer to Alaska – Anchorage and then as we left Nome, we descend towards 31,500feet, and then climbed up to 35,000feet after we crossed the International Date Line and the city of Magadan and Sea of Okhotsk, and then up to 38,000feet as we crossed the Sakhalin Islands, Dokdo, and Uleungdo before turning west towards Seoul.

The flight was very nice, as expected. The only minor problem was that the female version of the amenity kit was not loaded, despite having at least my mom on the manifest long before the plane left Seoul. The F/As apologized and brought her the business class amenity kit as well. Another major problem was the F/A rather poor English verbal skills. Communication was a problem at times. Arrival gifts were the same as December, and my mom and I both selected the Versace cups again.

I don’t really have much to add and hope the pictures can help you comprehend Asiana’s first class product a bit more.

Thanks for reading!

Carfield


eba205
Jan 11, 09, 9:24 am
Thank you for a nice report. Glad that you found the Amex program to be worthwhile. I am dropping my Crown Room membership in favor of a Platinum Amex this year for exactly the service you took advantage of.

useless
Jan 11, 09, 12:08 pm
Wow, thanks again for a very nice trip report. Mrs. useless & myself are booked for March JFK-ICN OZ F. Not a lot of info on OZ F out there. Your report and photos have me looking forward to that very long flight. (YYZ-JFK-ICN-SIN-KUL) :eek:


gleff
Jan 11, 09, 5:07 pm
Thanks for another outstanding report, you always manage to sample and post about some of the best of international F.. at least the F I plan to be flying, which I appreciate, a nice little advnace taste ^

ORDnHKG
Jan 14, 09, 12:32 am
Follow up trip report on OZ F:

The whole procedures was simple, and one very important benefit on flying OZ F is that there is a “porter” service and no need to drag my bags to the security checkpoints. The lady offered to escort us to the lounge, but we declined, as I was trying to get some magazines. The elevator to the Star Alliance lounge broke again and we had to climb up two floors (four flights) of stairs, which was not fun and definitely a hassle. LAX just could not get its act together. When I answered survey during the flight, I rated LAX as “poor”. Nothing much to report at the Star Alliance first class lounge, except the food selection remains poor and uninterested. The lady came to the lounge forty-five minutes prior to departure time and escorted us to the lounge.


Curious about porter service, is this only available in LAX ? Last time I flew OZ F (3 years ago) for ORD-ICN, there was no porter service in ORD, I had to drag my luggages to the screening machine, pain in the butt. Also no one escorted me to the lounge or security either, or from the lounge to the plane. Hope there is some changes since then.

N830MH
Jan 14, 09, 1:36 am
Wow! This is very fabulous trip reports. You realize know same lady who took you there before. I knows you were always upgrade into First Class suite. I think you should considers fly on KE for next time. I think this is wonderful stories where you actual flown on OZ. I didn't realize that you were ate different kind of Korean food. It was very delicious meal where you ate. I really loves the soup and etc.

So are you become Star Alliance frequent flyer, am I correct? Can you tell me which airlines that you already joins the FF programs? Is that UA? You will able take on UA where will fly from LAX-SFO-ICN for next available future trip. Are you keep your confident where you will enjoyable for your entire trip. This is good opinions where you will stay on F class suite not included of Business Class. You will be comfortable for you & your mom, too.

skywalkerLAX
Jan 14, 09, 4:05 am
Impressive pictures ! ^

Thanks for the detailed report. I was already considering to use OZ this year for a trip in F on a RTW.

One question regarding the cabin, it looks a little compressed with 4 seats on the side and the you have so much space with the seat you chose, 1K I think you mentioned. Are the seats in the OZ F cabin different or is that just my wrong impression ?

The food looks excellent. I very much like korean food and the caviar appetizer looks fine as well, even though not my personal preference.

Now I'm looking a bit more forward to it :) Still have to narrow down my options though. SQ via SIN (difficul to come by as award) or NH via NRT are the alternatives. I already eliminated TG & UA especially :D

ORDnHKG
Jan 14, 09, 11:02 pm
I think you should considers fly on KE for next time.


I doubt Carfield would be interested to fly KE, don't you know about the KE 801 accident ?

Carfield
Jan 15, 09, 8:54 am
Well the porter service is very LAX-specific... I think it is because of the pathetic arrangement at LAX, but with the renovation going on, the porter arrangement will no longer be necessary soon. I also want to clarify that the "porter" means that someone will push your check-in luggage from the check-in desk to the security checkpoint. The escort service seems to be a very LAX specific thing, and I was not offered the escort last time. It all depends on how crazy the security line is - sometimes LAX opens its premium line, but it does not sometimes... really random thing...

I am actually flying KE F within the next twenty four hours, but only a short flight from ICN to TPE... KE F is only $55 more than CX J, so I can live without 2000 miles and go with KE F. I don't think I will do a report on a relatively uninterested Airbus A330-300. I flew KE F from ICN to KIX many years ago. It was pretty nice. KE has cleaned up much after the KE accidents at Guam and considered I will fly CI, I don't think I will not fly KE. Because of my AA EXP and BMI GOLD status, I tend to stick with OW and then STar Alliance, before flying outside of the loop. I wish I can fly KE transpacific one day, but not for now... unless there is a mistake fare out there... hehe...

Thanks for the comments!

Carfield

ORDnHKG
Jan 15, 09, 9:30 am
KE has cleaned up much after the KE accidents at Guam and considered I will fly CI, I don't think I will not fly KE. Because of my AA EXP and BMI GOLD status, I tend to stick with OW and then STar Alliance, before flying outside of the loop. I wish I can fly KE transpacific one day, but not for now... unless there is a mistake fare out there... hehe...



I believe CI are KE are nice too, judging from their ads and photos, but flying this carriers I will leave it for other people. CI and KE are two carriers I would avoid at all cost, OZ is a totally different story, and OZ is rather similiar to BR, they both establish around the same time, small fleet, cargo focus airline, more importantly, excellent record. You just never know when and where a mistake would happen for CI and KE, as most of their accidents are all caused by human errors.

SMART51
Jan 16, 09, 6:12 am
Even so the text was a litle on the short side i still enjoyed it very much as usual.As for the pictures they are really very nice.Thank you.^

N830MH
Jan 16, 09, 11:39 pm
I doubt Carfield would be interested to fly KE, don't you know about the KE 801 accident ?

Oh yes, I remember what happening from many years ago. Can you please more source about KE 801 crashes? Is that in GUM? :confused:

ORDnHKG
Jan 17, 09, 12:50 am
Oh yes, I remember what happening from many years ago. Can you please more source about KE 801 crashes? Is that in GUM? :confused:

Not that many years ago, 11 years to be exact. Even after that accident, there were 4 other accidents which cause complete distruction of airframe, and all of them also cause by human errors, although other accidents did not have that many fatilities as KE 801.

Do a search for KE 801 as general as yahoo, it would come up hundreds of different sources.



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