I downloaded and installed it on an old machine and it seems pretty slick, however the machine is so old and slow a bunch of the new fancy effects don't work on it. :o
Overall I am much more satisfied with Windows 7 than I was with Vista at the time when I first installed the beta of that.
I am getting a little tired of my switch to the Mac OS I must say and Windows 7 is a welcome improvement to the Windows family that I will keep my eye on.
N830MH
Jan 10, 09, 1:28 am
What is your source all about new Windows 7? Is that PC or Mac? :confused: Can you please give me more information where you were found out brand new windows 7?
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 10, 09, 1:38 am
What is your source all about new Windows 7? Is that PC or Mac? :confused: Can you please give me more information where you were found out brand new windows 7?http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx
ScottC
Jan 10, 09, 7:25 am
Things that don't work well yet:
iTunes had to be installed using Vista compatability mode
Admuncher doesn't work
Sometimes when I right click on an item on the desktop, the machine freezes for about 5 minutes
It seems like Windows tends to forget my desktop settings
Other than that it's not bad, not earth shattering, but not bad.
DYKWIA
Jan 10, 09, 8:24 am
The beta seems to have been removed from the MS site!
Cheers,
Rick
sbm12
Jan 10, 09, 10:07 am
The beta seems to have been removed from the MS site!
Cheers,
Rick
Yup. Due to to "overwhelming demand" they had to pull it while they increase server capacity.
nmenaker
Jan 10, 09, 10:57 am
I've been using this on my IBM x61t tablet for about a month now, it seems to be snappier, some things work better, some don't. I installed on a seperate partition though, with a ghost of my current vista business image. AccessConnections doesn't work too well from thinkvantage, but the W7 wireless connection works even better!
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 10, 09, 12:39 pm
Yup. Due to to "overwhelming demand" they had to pull it while they increase server capacity.Looks like it's back up again.
number_6
Jan 10, 09, 12:48 pm
Windows 7 is basically the real Vista release (remember that MS had to pull a bunch of content out of Vista when it couldn't make the development schedule) and there are almost no architectural changes from Vista -- making compatibility a much smaller issue. MS could have shipped it as a fixpack for Vista, but that doesn't generate the same revenue or press as Win7. It does make for a polished product, even in beta.
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 10, 09, 12:50 pm
Aren't they still working on SP2 for Vista?
PTravel
Jan 10, 09, 2:37 pm
Has anyone tried installing it in Virtual PC?
By the way -- it's back up. I'm downloading it now.
ScottC
Jan 10, 09, 4:12 pm
Has anyone tried installing it in Virtual PC?
By the way -- it's back up. I'm downloading it now.
Yes, but it ran quite slow :(
ScottC
Jan 10, 09, 4:13 pm
Aren't they still working on SP2 for Vista?
That too. Before I switched to Windows 7, I had SP2 on my Vista machine. It can be found online and really did help improve Vista in several areas.
PTravel
Jan 10, 09, 4:46 pm
Yes, but it ran quite slow :(I may try that. I know I shouldn't do it, but I'm tempted to install it on my primary laptop, so at least I can test it a bit.
N830MH
Jan 10, 09, 7:40 pm
I may try that. I know I shouldn't do it, but I'm tempted to install it on my primary laptop, so at least I can test it a bit.
I heard that I saw new IE 8, am I correct? Should I need downloadable new Windows 7? :confused:
ScottC
Jan 10, 09, 8:28 pm
I may try that. I know I shouldn't do it, but I'm tempted to install it on my primary laptop, so at least I can test it a bit.
I've found it stable enough that it's now on my primary machine.
allset2travel
Jan 10, 09, 8:32 pm
....MS could have shipped it as a fixpack for Vista, but that doesn't generate the same revenue or press as Win7. It does make for a polished product, even in beta.
You are absolutely right. MS should ship it as Vista's fixpack. Miscrosoft couldn't care less about how their Vista customers have been screwed.:mad:
JeremyZ
Jan 10, 09, 11:55 pm
I may try that. I know I shouldn't do it, but I'm tempted to install it on my primary laptop, so at least I can test it a bit.I'm running it on my primary laptop right now and it's great. Takes a little getting used to, but it feels quicker and sharper. Took about 45-60 mins to install.
N830MH
Jan 11, 09, 12:04 am
I'm running it on my primary laptop right now and it's great. Takes a little getting used to, but it feels quicker and sharper. Took about 45-60 mins to install.
Great job! I will looking forward to seeing brand new Windows 7. So should I allows to downloadable Windows 7? :confused: I will rather try to do that for me. I will ask my friends' permission to let me downloads tomorrow. I will find out if I will hear anything more new testing will be completely done.
JeremyZ
Jan 11, 09, 1:14 am
I you download the beta, just be prepared to burn a DVD. The instructions on the site are very good, but it is likely that you will need to download a program that will correctly burn an ISO file to DVD.
It's not hard, but just a surprising extra step.
N830MH
Jan 11, 09, 1:36 am
I you download the beta, just be prepared to burn a DVD. The instructions on the site are very good, but it is likely that you will need to download a program that will correctly burn an ISO file to DVD.
It's not hard, but just a surprising extra step.
Can you please explaining to me more information how exactly I can wait for downloadable for more than 45 minutes, am I correct? So I will asks my friends by tomorrow on the phone. I really appreciated it for your efforts but, I will wait to see if my brother to have says something for me. Then I will let you know by tomorrow.
fredl
Jan 11, 09, 3:23 am
MSFT seems to have heard the users and made "7" more like Server 2008 in workstation mode.
I like it, but I still think that it won't be enough to stop people "escaping" to Mac OS X and the different *nix flavors.
ScottC
Jan 11, 09, 9:30 am
I you download the beta, just be prepared to burn a DVD. The instructions on the site are very good, but it is likely that you will need to download a program that will correctly burn an ISO file to DVD.
It's not hard, but just a surprising extra step.
I like that extra step, it's like an IQ test to prevent people from just going ahead and installing it when they don't know what they are doing :D
JeremyZ
Jan 11, 09, 1:37 pm
I like that extra step, it's like an IQ test to prevent people from just going ahead and installing it when they don't know what they are doing :DThen they shouldn't have made the instructions so easy. :)
I've noticed that W7 has bricked my volume, mute and DVD eject buttons on the front of my Vaio TT, and I also haven't fixed the Bluetooth drivers yet, but all else seems to be going swimmingly.
bdesmond
Jan 11, 09, 9:19 pm
I've noticed that W7 has bricked my volume, mute and DVD eject buttons on the front of my Vaio TT, and I also haven't fixed the Bluetooth drivers yet, but all else seems to be going swimmingly.
Presumably you need some Sony drivers to use those buttons. AFAIK those aren't standard interfaces and thus the manufacturer needs to provide a driver.
JeremyZ
Jan 11, 09, 10:25 pm
Presumably you need some Sony drivers to use those buttons. AFAIK those aren't standard interfaces and thus the manufacturer needs to provide a driver.Yeah - I think you're right. I emailed Sony tech support, and they pretty much told me to go to hell.
Shot an email to Cierge, but I assume she'll be equally ineffective. I think Dell has been much more proactive about working with this beta.
All that said, the issues I've encountered so far are deal-able, since the performance is so much better. And I lurve the behavior of the new toolbar on the bottom. Even the simple things, like the very simple wireless icon in the system tray - which is actually useful *and* legible - make me happy.
And I know this is going to call me out as a civilian loser, but I'm running Norton for antivirus, and after a double Norton Removal, it's running great.
bdesmond
Jan 11, 09, 10:27 pm
Yeah - I think you're right. I emailed Sony tech support, and they pretty much told me to go to hell.
Shot an email to Cierge, but I assume she'll be equally ineffective. I think Dell has been much more proactive about working with this beta.
All that said, the issues I've encountered so far are deal-able, since the performance is so much better. And I lurve the behavior of the new toolbar on the bottom. Even the simple things, like the very simple wireless icon in the system tray - which is actually useful *and* legible - make me happy.
And I know this is going to call me out as a civilian loser, but I'm running Norton for antivirus, and after a double Norton Removal, it's running great.
The Vista driver should work - a big part of Win7 is making sure that Vista compatible stuff in most areas doesn't break.
JeremyZ
Jan 11, 09, 10:39 pm
The Vista driver should work - a big part of Win7 is making sure that Vista compatible stuff in most areas doesn't break.Yeah - unfortunately, this is where my limited expertise ends (and I was hoping Sony would help) - I can't find where to access that driver.
Sonys are usually packed full of proprietary and unusual stuff, but everything else (touchpad, webcam, SSD, display, biometric scanner) seems to be working. Strange. I was going to get the Vaio P also, but this experience is going to delay that until Sony gets with W7.
Thanks for the suggestions.
JeremyZ
Jan 13, 09, 8:24 pm
okay - after 80 bajillion crashes last night when I was using Word 2007, I'm thinking maybe it's better to wait for the full release. :)
I'll miss you, neato W7 toolbar!
N830MH
Jan 13, 09, 8:53 pm
okay - after 80 bajillion crashes last night when I was using Word 2007, I'm thinking maybe it's better to wait for the full release. :)
I'll miss you, neato W7 toolbar!
Yeah, I think you will wait for full-release will be completely done. They will tell you when they are releases newest Windows 7. It should be wait for awhile until Beta testing will be consider it done. Then you can purchase new version Windows 7 is coming in the store. So please be patient for awhile when they are in progress.
gj83
Jan 13, 09, 8:56 pm
I found a VMware appliance http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents.php?cat=442 with Windows 7 loaded. I'll have to wait for it to finish downloading to give any impressions, but I prefer to VM.
N830MH
Jan 13, 09, 11:31 pm
I found a VMware appliance http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents.php?cat=442 with Windows 7 loaded. I'll have to wait for it to finish downloading to give any impressions, but I prefer to VM.
How did you figure out more information from Windows 7 Beta? So when the testing will be completely done sometimes in couple months later. I will keep aware to reading more information from MS. I think that I should downloading brand new Windows 7? I was pretty confident where I can see the beta testing is in progress to needs more new program and etc. So otherwise, I can't installed with new AOL Classic into Windows 7 yet? Can you please give me more source for giving me more new information.
N830MH
Jan 13, 09, 11:40 pm
Guys,
I just want let you know that I heard Windows 7 will be releases in 2010 and here the article publish came in and here it is:
Unfortunately, you have wait for full releases will be ready sometimes in the future. So I think you guys can read it whole news media is already came in from last year in 2008. Thanks all.
Regards
nomoreiphone
Jan 14, 09, 3:15 am
Just wondering, do they only have 1 version of the Windoes 7 Beta and it covers all language (ie. there are no Chinese Windows 7?)
Can you upgrade to that with XP?
For the Beta version, how does it work when a full version is released? Is there a set time you are allowed to use and will get forced to upgrade?
sbm12
Jan 14, 09, 7:12 am
For the Beta version, how does it work when a full version is released? Is there a set time you are allowed to use and will get forced to upgrade?
I'm pretty sure they'll time-bomb it so that it is no longer functional at some point in the future. I believe they did the same thing with Vista. No idea about the languages, but I'd guess that it is English-only for now.
bdesmond
Jan 14, 09, 7:20 am
Just wondering, do they only have 1 version of the Windoes 7 Beta and it covers all language (ie. there are no Chinese Windows 7?)
Can you upgrade to that with XP?
For the Beta version, how does it work when a full version is released? Is there a set time you are allowed to use and will get forced to upgrade?
At this stage I would expect only English is available. Later on in the prerelease phase (Release Candidate time), you should see RCs available in the more popular languages (there are a few of these - Japanese and German come to mind if I remember right), and then within some number of months of release (not sure offhand) all of the languages are usually available.
As far as expiry - it's time bombed. This may actually be in the desktop watermark in the lower right, but if I remember right the codepath for this lets you know it's expired in the form of a specific blue screen.
sonofzeus
Jan 14, 09, 8:12 am
I downloaded Win7 Beta and the key. After reading how to dual boot, I decided to pass on this golden opp to provide MS with free R/D.
PM if you want my copy/key.
N830MH
Jan 14, 09, 2:50 pm
Just wondering, do they only have 1 version of the Windoes 7 Beta and it covers all language (ie. there are no Chinese Windows 7?)
Can you upgrade to that with XP?
No. I don't need upgrade from XP because I getting rid of old computer from 2 years ago. Because I had been problesm with my old computer has been gotten viruses then it the computer is crashes. I am already brought new computer at home from summer 2007. It was Windows Vista. I am really like it lot.
No, they doesn't have installed new Chinese languages with windows 7 yet.
ScottC
Jan 14, 09, 2:54 pm
Still going rock solid. I'm finally used to the new taskbar, and I'm liking it a lot.
Of course, still a couple of rogue apps that don't play nicely with it.
gj83
Jan 14, 09, 2:58 pm
Just wondering, do they only have 1 version of the Windoes 7 Beta and it covers all language (ie. there are no Chinese Windows 7?)
The MS site said the 32 bit was available in English, German, Arabic, Hindi, Japanese. 64 bit is the same except no Hindi.
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 14, 09, 8:50 pm
Can you upgrade to that with XP?
For the Beta version, how does it work when a full version is released? Is there a set time you are allowed to use and will get forced to upgrade?According to the FAQ (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-faq.aspx):
Upgrade to Win7 beta from XP = No
Set time allowed to use it = Yes. It expires on August 1, 2009.
What happens then =
To continue using your PC, please be prepared to reinstall a prior version of Windows or a subsequent release of Windows 7 before the expiration date. You won't be able to upgrade from the Beta to the final retail version of Windows 7.
N830MH
Jan 14, 09, 9:35 pm
According to the FAQ (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-faq.aspx):
Upgrade to Win7 beta from XP = No
Set time allowed to use it = Yes. It expires on August 1, 2009.
What happens then =
Are you sure about Windows 7 will be full releases sometimes on August 1, 2009, am I correct? When the beta testing will be completely done? I will wait to see if I can hear any more new information from MS. I will let you know soon as possible. I should to have being patience for awhile. So otherwise, I won't able downloading Windows 7 beta for this time.
rob2507
Jan 15, 09, 12:39 pm
You can extend the trial period from 30 to 120 days...instructions here (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/extend-the-windows-7-trial-from-30-to-120-days/).
sbm12
Jan 15, 09, 2:16 pm
Are you sure about Windows 7 will be full releases sometimes on August 1, 2009, am I correct? When the beta testing will be completely done? I will wait to see if I can hear any more new information from MS. I will let you know soon as possible. I should to have being patience for awhile. So otherwise, I won't able downloading Windows 7 beta for this time.
No, the full version will not be available in August. But this beta will time bomb then and no longer function.
allset2travel
Jan 15, 09, 2:25 pm
Has anyone run LR2, Ps CS3 or PsCS4? What's your impression of performance and its handling of large files?
I plan to wait till full version is released.
vcuengnr
Jan 16, 09, 5:56 am
After experiencing Vista, the beta sounds too risky. I plan to switch to Vista first in 2012.
nkedel
Jan 16, 09, 6:12 pm
Vista to Win7 upgrade = crashing with an uptime under 2 min.
Clean Win7 install = running OK
Detected all of the hardware in my fairly-new Dell laptop except the Video card immediately - the video card (Quadro NVS130M) initially was missed but got picked up on my first actual reboot - I'm not sure if Windows update was involved or not.
Don't like some of the UI changes or the new taskbar/notification area, but otherwise it's not bad. Since I couldn't get the upgrade to go (and lost a bunch of time to a restore from backup), it's on a spare HD and I have not had much time to play with it.
ScottC
Jan 18, 09, 7:34 pm
I've just installed Win7 on my Lenovo S10 - installation could not have been easier. I popped it onto a USB drive and had the full install completed in about 30 minutes.
The Lenovo (1.6GHz/160GB/1.5GB) runs perfectly. I did not have to install a single driver myself, and even Bluetooth works as it should.
I'm still running into too many apps on Win7 that don't work, so MS clearly changed a lot under the hood...
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 18, 09, 7:38 pm
I'm still running into too many apps on Win7 that don't work, so MS clearly changed a lot under the hood...What apps?
They don't work at all, or they won't install?
ScottC
Jan 26, 09, 8:14 pm
I gave up. Too much stuff that simply does not work, and too many things that should work but don't.
Back to Vista for me :D
ScottC
Jan 26, 09, 8:16 pm
What apps?
They don't work at all, or they won't install?
The list is endless. Admuncher, Nero, Epson printer software, photo resize apps etc...
I put up with as much as I could, but in the end when I can't even print stuff it just becomes too much.
ClueByFour
Jan 26, 09, 8:49 pm
I gave up. Too much stuff that simply does not work, and too many things that should work but don't.
Back to Vista for me :D
I apply that same logic to the 2nd degree, and still run XP. :D
OverThereTooMuch
Jan 26, 09, 10:11 pm
And you guys call yourselves nerds. Pffft! :rolleyes: :p
I hope you used the crap out of the "send feedback" button, and sent your complaints to the people that make this software, or this stuff isn't gonna get fixed.