Korean Air Skypass - 09 Summer US operations

Quick note on the planned 2009 Summer operation to the US....The following information was based on the availability display on 18DEC08 (hasn't changed though for 2 weeks now)

Seoul - Seattle 4 weekly 777

Seoul - San Francisco, 2/3 weekly of the Daily service is being retimed

KE023 ICN1645 - 1135SFO x15 772
KE023 ICN1805 - 1220SFO 15 772*

KE024 SFO1320 - 1740+1ICN x15 772
KE024 SFO1410 - 1855+1ICN 15 772*

Day 3 service operates around this schedule from 30MAR09 to 29JUN09 and from 28AUG09, note time varies due to monthly operation

Seoul - Los Angeles Summer seasonal increase on nonstop flight. Starting 30MAR09, service increase from 17 to 20 weekly. The increased flights are the following:

KE015 ICN1900 - 1400LAX 744 135
KE016 LAX2310 - 0355+2ICN 744 135

From 26JUL09 to 28AUG09, service operates 4 weekly (Day x246), also with 747-400.

From 02SEP09, service reduce back to 3 weekly, but operating with Boeing 777-200ER

Seoul - Las Vegas 3 weekly 777

Seoul - Dallas 4 weekly service
Operational Day switch from Day x357 to Day x135 from 29MAR09

Seoul - Atlanta Daily 747-400

Seoul - Chicago Daily 777

Seoul - New York JFK 2 Daily 747

Seoul - Washington Daily service
Day 357 operates with 777
Day x357 operates with 747-400

Seoul - Honolulu Daily 777

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2008/12/korean-air-2009-summer-us-operation.html

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2008/12/korean-air-back-to-21-weekly-to-la-from.html

Thanks for the update. Also LAS operation days are to be changed from 257 to 146 (ICN departure days). KE recently closed seats for MON, FRI, and some of WED operations to SFO, Sunday to SEA and DFW, throughout most of summer season. I guess KE will decide to operate these flights later, depends on how economy situation goes.

Thanks for the info! I'm glad business is good enough for them to only fly the 747 between ICN-JFK selffishly though I'd much rather fly on their 777 it's just more comfortable.

Thanks for the update. Also LAS operation days are to be changed from 257 to 146 (ICN departure days). KE recently closed seats for MON, FRI, and some of WED operations to SFO, Sunday to SEA and DFW, throughout most of summer season. I guess KE will decide to operate these flights later, depends on how economy situation goes.

I have checked again and have updated them
http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/01/additional-korean-air-us-operation.html

Schedule changes - highlights:

Chicago - upgraded to 744
Dallas - reduced to 3x weekly
Honolulu - upgraded to 744
San Francisco - reduced to 5x weekly
Seattle - increased to 4x weekly
Washington, D.C. - 744 frequencies downgraded to 777

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Is the ORD/ICN flight scheduled to be operated with the new configuration or the old configuration (like last year)? I can't seem to pull up a seat map. Thanks.

Chicago - upgraded to 744
Dallas - reduced to 3x weekly
Honolulu - upgraded to 744
San Francisco - reduced to 5x weekly
Seattle - increased to 4x weekly
Washington, D.C. - 744 frequencies downgraded to 777


Thanks for the update. All your lists are bookable. Many interesting changes are there. What you listed are all new configuration include ORD, oh wait, exclude HNL. I found that LAS will see some change because all Thursday (Friday from LAS) flights are zero'd out - there will be day change or frequency reduction. Also DFW flight schedule is once again pulled to earlier, which I hate. By the way, SEA is to 5xw from June.

One more interesting thing is, SFO and SEA will go daily during summer peak months, but that increments will be old configuration. Those will be Mon/Fri SFO and Wed/Sun SEA.

Also I found additional 3/w LAX flights on peak season, between July 19 and August 22, with very experimental schedule:
KE 021 ICN-LAX 0130-2055(-1), Mon/Fri/Sat, 747
KE 022 LAX-ICN 2330-0350(+2), Thu/Fri/Sun, 747

Those are with new configuration, too. Also KE015/016 (3/w LAX flight) will be increased to 4/w during peak season which makes total 24 nonstops ICN-LAX.

So ICN-HNL will be served on a 744? Do you know when this begins?

San Francisco Daily service from 27JUL09 to 30AUG09
Seattle becomes 5 weekly from 01JUN09 and Daily from 21JUL09 to 31AUG09


And changes (http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/02/korean-air-changes-to-la-and-re-route.html) to Los Angeles and Las Vegas service from 29MAR09. Seoul - Las Vegas vv becomes Seoul - Las Vegas - Los Angeles - Seoul triangle route.

KE021/022 operates from 20JUL09 to 22AUG09 only, as mentioned above

KE021 ICN0130 - 2055-1LAX 744 156
KE017 ICN1500 - 1025LAX 744 D
KE011 ICN2000 - 1525LAX 744 D
KE005 ICN2050 - 1600LAS 772 136
KE061 ICN2105 - 1640LAX 772 135

KE012 LAX0010 - 0430+1ICN 744 D
KE062 LAX0050 - 0520+1ICN 772 357
KE018 LAX1230 - 1655+1ICN 744 D
KE006 LAS2000 - 2110LAX2330 - 0425+2ICN 772 136
KE022 LAX2330 - 0350+2ICN 457

Thanks for the update, as always. KE's changes are quite interesting. KE removed all triangle or multi-stop flights like a couple of years ago, but now so so many of them came again.

KE061 ICN2105 - 1640LAX 772 135

KE062 LAX0050 - 0520+1ICN 772 357


KE 061/062 operates ICN-LAX-GRU and GRU-LAX-GRU.

Rgs,

KE 061/062 operates ICN-LAX-GRU and GRU-LAX-GRU.

Rgs,

I know, I just didn't bother to put this on along with ICN - NRT - LAX.

From 01JUN09 Las Vegas service is to be operated by 747-400

San Francisco Daily service from 27JUL09 to 30AUG09
Seattle becomes 5 weekly from 01JUN09 and Daily from 21JUL09 to 31AUG09


And changes (http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/02/korean-air-changes-to-la-and-re-route.html) to Los Angeles and Las Vegas service from 29MAR09. Seoul - Las Vegas vv becomes Seoul - Las Vegas - Los Angeles - Seoul triangle route.

KE021/022 operates from 20JUL09 to 22AUG09 only, as mentioned above

KE021 ICN0130 - 2055-1LAX 744 156
KE017 ICN1500 - 1025LAX 744 D
KE011 ICN2000 - 1525LAX 744 D
KE005 ICN2050 - 1600LAS 772 136
KE061 ICN2105 - 1640LAX 772 135

KE012 LAX0010 - 0430+1ICN 744 D
KE062 LAX0050 - 0520+1ICN 772 357
KE018 LAX1230 - 1655+1ICN 744 D
KE006 LAS2000 - 2110LAX2330 - 0425+2ICN 772 136
KE022 LAX2330 - 0350+2ICN 457



The highlight is new night arrival into LAX. So far, CX has been the only Asian carrier that offers a night arrival, CX880, into LAX which departs from HKG around 23:30 and arrives around 22:00 at LAX. The aircraft would not have to sit at LAX ground for whole afternoon now.

I'm considering booking LAS-ICN-LAS on KE5/6 (I know the outbound LAS-ICN has a stop in LAX). I'm finding contradictory information - some places it says it will operate with a 2-class 747 (combi?) and some places it says it will operate with 747-400... so which plane will most likely operate these flights?

Travel dates: Outbound July8, Return August19.

TIA

I'm considering booking LAS-ICN-LAS on KE5/6 (I know the outbound LAS-ICN has a stop in LAX). I'm finding contradictory information - some places it says it will operate with a 2-class 747 (combi?) and some places it says it will operate with 747-400... so which plane will most likely operate these flights?

Travel dates: Outbound July8, Return August19.

TIA

KE doesn't fly 747COMBI to the US. US service are 3-class service on 747.

The following is from jimyvr's airline route blog:

In addition to the change of routing for Las Vegas flight, as per 25FEB09 GDS timetable and inventory display, Korean Air starting 01JUN09 is operating 2-class configuration Boeing 747-400 instead of 777 aircraft.

The flight operates 3 weekly as Seoul - Las Vegas - Los Angeles - Seoul


So is it a 2-class configuration per the blog, or is it a 3-class configuration per your post?

The flight operates 3 weekly as Seoul - Las Vegas - Los Angeles - Seoul


So is it a 2-class configuration per the blog, or is it a 3-class configuration per your post?

It is 3-class configuration (refurbished one) and currently sold as 3-class (PCY). As jiml1126 told, all 747 flights to US are with 3 classes. It might be that when jimyvr's blog was updated (25FEB), KE didn't decide yet refurbished one (P class) or not-refurbished one (F class) to deploy on this route. Then they don't sell first class for a while until that problem is solved. Same thing happened for YYZ and a few other cases. Now it is clearly 3 classes.

The following is from jimyvr's airline route blog:

In addition to the change of routing for Las Vegas flight, as per 25FEB09 GDS timetable and inventory display, Korean Air starting 01JUN09 is operating 2-class configuration Boeing 747-400 instead of 777 aircraft.

The flight operates 3 weekly as Seoul - Las Vegas - Los Angeles - Seoul


So is it a 2-class configuration per the blog, or is it a 3-class configuration per your post?
I was probably using my assumption when i wrote the blog post on that day but as of yesterday GDS display it shows 3-class 744. Operating