Travel Technology - Question re: Micro SD Cards
Non-NonRev
Dec 10, 08, 12:44 pm
After years of using devices that use Sony's MemoryStick format, I've just acquired a smartphone that uses microSD memory cards. Since a card was not included in the box, I need to pick up an 8GB card (the maximum capacity supported).
Are all 8GB microSD cards alike (in other words, no additional format or protocol differences), or do I need to look for additional specifications (the manufacturer's spec is very brief, stating only microSD memory card slot, hot swappable, max. 8 GB).
Different cards will have different read/write speeds. Otherwise they should all be compatible.
mikew99
Dec 10, 08, 1:39 pm
I won't go so far as to say that all microSD cards are alike (if they're like their bigger cousins, there are differences in reliability and speed), but apart from those who have specific needs (such as recording a burst of pictures in RAW format), most people can simply buy on price. A friend of mine bought an 8GB microSD card (with full-sized SD adapter) for his BlackBerry on sale at Fry's for about $20.
If you plan on reading the card in your computer or some other device, you might want to make sure the other device also supports the higher-capacity (> 2GB) SDHC cards and not just SD cards (similar to the difference between MS Pro and MS).
ScottC
Dec 10, 08, 3:06 pm
For the kind of stuff you do on a smartphone, any MicroSD card will work just fine. Smartphones don't transfer large amounts of data, and even video clips will be encoded in a fairly low bitrate. Get yourself the cheapest card you can find, and you'll be fine. At least, that is my personal experience. I'm using a $15 8GB MicroSDHC card, and it does everything I need it to.
Braindrain
Dec 10, 08, 4:03 pm
I'd check the manual whether it takes MicroSD or MicroSDHC. It may be an expensive lesson.
Loren Pechtel
Dec 10, 08, 4:23 pm
I'd check the manual whether it takes MicroSD or MicroSDHC. It may be an expensive lesson.
Yeah--is there such a thing as a MicroSD 8gb?? I thought SD maxed at 4gb and that's iffy.
CApreppie
Dec 10, 08, 4:54 pm
Yeah--is there such a thing as a MicroSD 8gb?? I thought SD maxed at 4gb and that's iffy.
A quick search in Google looks like only SDHC comes in 8GB. Confusing nomenclature.
Non-NonRev
Dec 10, 08, 5:29 pm
A quick search in Google looks like only SDHC comes in 8GB. Confusing nomenclature.First off,thanks for all who responded and offered such detailed, valuable advice. ^
Confusing isn't the word for the documentation and tech support provided by the laptop manufacturer (Fujitsu - somewhat surprising as the documentation is otherwide pretty good). The manual only stated that SD cards could be used in the card reader - no capacity specifications or options were given. My first call to tech support ended when the person did not know what an SD card was (even as I heard the reference flip charts being furiously turned). The tech on the second call at least knew what I was talking about - she stated that there was nothing in the documentation specifically about capacities, only that 1GB and 2GB cards were options that were listed on her accessories list.
Searching online, I found another Fujitsu accessories list that matched what the second tech said about 1GB and 2GB being offered as options. I also found anecdotal information on other manufacturers' sites that seemed to indicate that many internal readers don't support the high capacity flavor.
ScottC
Dec 10, 08, 6:40 pm
First off,thanks for all who responded and offered such detailed, valuable advice. ^
Confusing isn't the word for the documentation and tech support provided by the laptop manufacturer (Fujitsu - somewhat surprising as the documentation is otherwide pretty good). The manual only stated that SD cards could be used in the card reader - no capacity specifications or options were given. My first call to tech support ended when the person did not know what an SD card was (even as I heard the reference flip charts being furiously turned). The tech on the second call at least knew what I was talking about - she stated that there was nothing in the documentation specifically about capacities, only that 1GB and 2GB cards were options that were listed on her accessories list.
Searching online, I found another Fujitsu accessories list that matched what the second tech said about 1GB and 2GB being offered as options. I also found anecdotal information on other manufacturers' sites that seemed to indicate that many internal readers don't support the high capacity flavor.
What is the model number of the device?
I'll go out on a limb and say that 90% of all new SD capable gadgets WILL accept SDHC. But unlike the previous poster who said it could be an expensive lesson, in the worse case, you'll be out $20. Even places like Amazon have plenty (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUT F8%26x%3D0%26ref%255F%3Dnb%255Fss%255Fgw%26y%3D0%2 6field-keywords%3D8GB%2520microSD%26url%3Dsearch-alias%253Daps&tag=641539-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957) of sub $20 8GB MicroSD cards.
ScottC
Dec 10, 08, 6:41 pm
Yeah--is there such a thing as a MicroSD 8gb?? I thought SD maxed at 4gb and that's iffy.
MicroSDHC comes in 12GB and soon in 16GB. I expect we'll see 32GB MicroSD's within a year or so.
Braindrain
Dec 10, 08, 8:52 pm
But unlike the previous poster who said it could be an expensive lesson, in the worse case, you'll be out $20.
I've only been looking at Class 6 cards (which are the most flexible to use between electronic gadgets) so those prices are higher. But, if you want Class 4 or lower, then those prices are pretty cheap.
MicroSDHC comes in 12GB and soon in 16GB. I expect we'll see 32GB MicroSD's within a year or so.
You didn't catch the reference. SD's normally max out at 2GB and are rarely found in 4GB form. SDHC start at 4GB.
CApreppie
Dec 10, 08, 10:06 pm
I guess find a cheap one to try and/or has return policy. I am sure that devices coming down the line that we will all have will be able to use an SDHC if you're stuck with it if it doesn't work.
seanthepilot
Dec 10, 08, 11:39 pm
Plug your phone model into www.gsmarena.com and it should have the specifications listed, including the maximum GB card accepted. Make sure you're checking the model version for the country you got it from, as some models have different versions.
Loren Pechtel
Dec 11, 08, 12:00 am
MicroSDHC comes in 12GB and soon in 16GB. I expect we'll see 32GB MicroSD's within a year or so.
That's not a rebuttal at all. I was saying you won't find SD in those capacities, not that you won't find SDHC.
HC = High Capacity.
I own some 16gb SDHC's.
CarlTheWebmaster
Dec 11, 08, 12:28 am
Plug your phone model into www.gsmarena.com and it should have the specifications listed, including the maximum GB card accepted. Make sure you're checking the model version for the country you got it from, as some models have different versions.
Cool site! ^ Thanks for the link.
Although, it said 8gb max for the Blackberry Bold 9000, which actually takes 16gb.
masonp123
Dec 11, 08, 1:30 am
MicroSDHC comes in 12GB and soon in 16GB. I expect we'll see 32GB MicroSD's within a year or so.
As previous poster mentioned, the 16GB microSDHC cards are available. I've found that the higher capacity micro cards generally (trial and error is the rule of thumb) work in most devices, especially if SDHC is listed. My 16GB card is working quite nicely in my Sirius Stiletto 2. And as ScottC said above, if it doesn't work, at worst you're only out a few bucks for the 4 and 8GB cards, and not much more for the 16GB (I paid $60).
u600213
Dec 11, 08, 8:56 am
If you have access to cards of friends or associates try them out. My Samsung SGH-A837 manual said it would take up to 4GB micro SDHC but would accept SANDISK brand 8GB.
Also some MicroSD cards are bundled withan SD format holder while others come with a USB device that you can put it in for use on other systems without MicroSD.
EricH
Dec 11, 08, 10:09 am
If your computer won't read microSDHC, look for a driver update to fix it. That's all I needed.
Loren Pechtel
Dec 11, 08, 12:47 pm
Cool site! ^ Thanks for the link.
Although, it said 8gb max for the Blackberry Bold 9000, which actually takes 16gb.
And it doesn't admit to the existence of my phone.
Fornebufox
Dec 13, 08, 5:03 pm
Yeah--is there such a thing as a MicroSD 8gb?? I thought SD maxed at 4gb and that's iffy.
Heh. Day after tomorrow they'll have 16Gb, if they don't already!
Edited to add: they already do (http://www.dz-tech.com/flash-memory-microsd-transflash-c-65_74.html?gclid=CMGU1ZbavpcCFQHHGgod_iUTTA).
allset2travel
Dec 13, 08, 6:45 pm
I am currently using 8GB cards.
I got curious while reading this thread and searched/found this:
http://www.shopzilla.com/sandisk-64-mb-secure-digital-sd-card/177265462/compare
ScottC
Dec 13, 08, 6:47 pm
I am currently using 8GB cards.
I got curious while reading this thread and searched/found this:
http://www.shopzilla.com/sandisk-64-mb-secure-digital-sd-card/177265462/compare
MB, not GB. Big difference ;)
Loren Pechtel
Dec 13, 08, 11:34 pm
I am currently using 8GB cards.
I got curious while reading this thread and searched/found this:
http://www.shopzilla.com/sandisk-64-mb-secure-digital-sd-card/177265462/compare
You lost a few zeroes there.
I haven't seen anything beyond 16gb in SDHC, let alone microSDHC.
cubbie
Dec 14, 08, 10:34 am
Plug your phone model into www.gsmarena.com and it should have the specifications listed, including the maximum GB card accepted. Make sure you're checking the model version for the country you got it from, as some models have different versions.
I agree, this is a cool site, but for my phone (Blackberry Curve 8320) it doesn't list the maximum GB card accepted, it just says that it takes microSD cards.
gfunkdave
Dec 14, 08, 11:14 am
I agree, this is a cool site, but for my phone (Blackberry Curve 8320) it doesn't list the maximum GB card accepted, it just says that it takes microSD cards.
It depends on the OS you're running. I OS 4.2 is limited to 4 GB, and newer versions can do 8 GB.