Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - Fuel stops
SAN_Finn
Dec 8, 08, 1:28 am
Im flying to Hong Kong tomorrow on 883 with my final destination being TPE. If the plane makes a fuel stop in TPE does anybody know if you can get out? No checked luggage, last segment of my ticket. Basically does the plane even go to a gate on these stops or just a remote stand?
bigbite
Dec 8, 08, 1:39 am
That happened to me early this year on a flight from LAX to HKG.
The answer is NO.
In my case the plane did stop at a gate but only ground staff came onboard (to clean the lavatories...etc). We were told no one can get off and must remain in the aircraft.
SAN_Finn
Dec 8, 08, 10:02 am
too bad. Thanks for the info
Rejuvenated
Dec 8, 08, 1:21 pm
You cannot end your journey where the plane makes it's fuel stop en-route to it's destination. That's why it's a fuel stop, and in this case should it happen it is not even a fuel stop that was scheduled way out in advance. So should your flight make the TPE fuel stop, you'd still be flying LAX-TPE-HKG-TPE before it's all said and done.
CX883 is operating with the 773A...it would not be making fuel stop like the 74A in the winter time ! Has anyone here on the 773A making a fuel stop in TPE or ICN ???
Rejuvenated
Dec 8, 08, 2:23 pm
Let's see, it appears the OP posted on the night of Dec 7 and at that time he/she said will be flying tomorrow which should be Dec 8. CX883 for Dec 8 is scheduled to be a 747.
jiaotze
Dec 8, 08, 3:57 pm
FWIW, I flew 883 about a week ago and it was a 74A. No fuel stop.
However, we did take the most western routing I have ever seen on that flight. Usually the flight path arks around Alaska and comes down over Japan and past Taiwan into Hong Kong. On this flight, the path was pushed all the way over to west of Beijing and then southward through central China into Hong Kong.
Let's see, it appears the OP posted on the night of Dec 7 and at that time he/she said will be flying tomorrow which should be Dec 8. CX883 for Dec 8 is scheduled to be a 747.
I went back and checked for the whole week starting with the 8th, most of the week starting from Dec 9th, 883 is on a 773A...and then on the 12th or 13th, it is on a 774A for one day, and back to the 773A. I did not check any further, as it gets closer to the holidays. :confused:
FWIW, I flew 883 about a week ago and it was a 74A. No fuel stop.
However, we did take the most western routing I have ever seen on that flight. Usually the flight path arks around Alaska and comes down over Japan and past Taiwan into Hong Kong. On this flight, the path was pushed all the way over to west of Beijing and then southward through central China into Hong Kong.
Was it less bumpy using that very northern route ?
jiaotze
Dec 9, 08, 8:42 pm
Was it less bumpy using that very northern route ?
I was asleep for a good portion of the flight, but it seemed quite smooth from when I woke up when we were over Beijing and then onward.
I'll be flying 883 again in about a month and it is scheduled as a 74A. Wonder what was going on with the different aircraft as described by AA2MM
manicflyer9
Dec 10, 08, 2:00 pm
I was asleep for a good portion of the flight, but it seemed quite smooth from when I woke up when we were over Beijing and then onward.
I'll be flying 883 again in about a month and it is scheduled as a 74A. Wonder what was going on with the different aircraft as described by AA2MM
It isn't all that mysterious. CX883/880 operates with the 74A (and the occasional schedule change to the 744) on Mondays and Fridays and with the 77A on the remaining days of the week until the end of February, at which time the planned schedule calls for 77A service on all days. CX 881/882 presently calls for the 74A (again with changes to the 744). Of course, some of us have been burned by last-minute equipment changes.
LH/LX
Dec 15, 08, 11:08 am
I was asleep for a good portion of the flight, but it seemed quite smooth from when I woke up when we were over Beijing and then onward.
I'll be flying 883 again in about a month and it is scheduled as a 74A. Wonder what was going on with the different aircraft as described by AA2MM
From your experience is it more bumpy when you fly HKG to LAX than LAX to HKG or it is the same ?
ichlam
Dec 17, 08, 1:03 am
im flying 883 on the 18th.
anyone know whether tonight's 883 is scheduled for a tech stop or not?
jiaotze
Dec 17, 08, 1:47 am
From your experience is it more bumpy when you fly HKG to LAX than LAX to HKG or it is the same ?
I'm usually out for the bulk of the flight, so unless it is really severe turbulence, I don't take note.
The only flights that I recall being particularly turbulent on a fairly regular basis on those between Japan and HNL.
number_6
Dec 17, 08, 1:30 pm
From your experience is it more bumpy when you fly HKG to LAX than LAX to HKG or it is the same ?Season is the primary factor for the turbulence. Westbound flights generally have worse turbulence, as the routing is more constrained -- they try to avoid the worst areas but have less routing flexibility than eastbound.
kluau88
Dec 17, 08, 11:38 pm
CX 873 SFO-HKG departing on 12/18 is making a fuel stop in TPE.
pacificboot
Dec 18, 08, 12:06 am
CX881, the flight I am on right now, Today (18 Dec) is scheduled to have a fuel stop at TPE.
I actually just flew in from JFK today, and my plane landed in PHX 35 minutes late, even though we departed JFK on-time. The pilot talked about extraordinary headwinds today that really affected performances. I believe many transcontinental flights had fuel stops as well.
I actually wrote a trip report about it, and the sequent cancellation/diversion etc... Have a look:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/900507-joy-flying-us-diversion-canellation-delay-go-around-lost-bags-all-one-day.html
jiaotze
Dec 18, 08, 12:23 am
It isn't all that mysterious. CX883/880 operates with the 74A (and the occasional schedule change to the 744) on Mondays and Fridays and with the 77A on the remaining days of the week until the end of February, at which time the planned schedule calls for 77A service on all days. CX 881/882 presently calls for the 74A (again with changes to the 744). Of course, some of us have been burned by last-minute equipment changes.
Manicflyer9, I'm not questioning the accuracy your info, but was wondering where you are sourcing it. Last week I booked 883 for Jan 21 (Wed) and the agent said the craft being used is a 74A. I also asked about Jan 20 and Jan 22, and again both are 74A. I would gladly change my day of travel to ensure (well, I know nothing is ever 100% guaranteed as to the aircraft used by CX) that I fly the 77A, as I'd like to minimize the possibility of a fuel stop in TPE or ICN.
SQ Flyer Talker
Dec 19, 08, 12:59 am
CX 873 SFO-HKG departing on 12/18 is making a fuel stop in TPE.
Why is always CX 744 is making a fuel stop in compare the same route with other carriers like SQ 744 & UA 744...? I heard that part of the reason is CX is using Rolls Royce engines which is less perform in compare to SQ & UA which is using Pratt & Witney...
manicflyer9
Dec 19, 08, 9:22 pm
Manicflyer9, I'm not questioning the accuracy your info, but was wondering where you are sourcing it. Last week I booked 883 for Jan 21 (Wed) and the agent said the craft being used is a 74A. I also asked about Jan 20 and Jan 22, and again both are 74A. I would gladly change my day of travel to ensure (well, I know nothing is ever 100% guaranteed as to the aircraft used by CX) that I fly the 77A, as I'd like to minimize the possibility of a fuel stop in TPE or ICN.
Hi-
The info had been based upon my own recent experiences and pulling up schedules in the CX and expertflyer databases. It's entirely possible that CX may have revised the schedule for a myriad of reasons, especially for additional seating around the Chinese New Year. By the way, I'm all in favor of the 77A, since I've had to suffer fuel stops in ICN and TPE, which really messed up my travel connections. In the past, before CX added the 77A to its fleet, CX883 was far more likely to have a fuel stop then CX881. Keep us updated.
hillrider
Dec 21, 08, 5:37 pm
anyone know whether tonight's 883 is scheduled for a tech stop or not?www.flightaware.com will tell you what they filed with the FAA; don't know if the CX site will tell you that info.