iDine/Rewards Network - AA: $75 spend, DL: $50 spend = 1,000 mi.




Firewind
Dec 6, 08, 12:08 pm
The AA Winter Holiday Dining Bonus offer is for every $75 spend, apparently, but the t&c may not be as specific as they should be -- e.g., also per dine? Anyone know? If not, have all prior similar promotions been per dine and so it's assumed? It's 11/28/08 - 12/31/08.

The DL offer is clearly $50 per dine. It's through 12/15/08.

Both require VIP status and registration. When I called to ask about the AA one, the CSR said it wasn't necessary to register before earning.


NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 6, 08, 9:27 pm
The AA Winter Holiday Dining Bonus offer is for every $75 spend,

When I called to ask about the AA one, the CSR said it wasn't necessary to register before earning.

I am not sure that is accurate or correct information.

However, the only way to really know is for someone to qualify who could not register for the promotion.

So, all those dedicated AA diners, could you please advise whether or not you receive the supposed bonus once you cross the $75 threshold?

Thanks.

Firewind
Dec 6, 08, 9:38 pm
Not sure what part you doubt. Perhaps if you could clarify, then I might be able to, too.


Firewind
Dec 6, 08, 9:54 pm
On looking at the t&c to answer NJUPINTHEAIR's question in his/her thread, I see that this DL offer is one-off, capped at 1,000 mi. The AA one isn't.

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 7, 08, 10:06 am
Not sure what part you doubt. Perhaps if you could clarify, then I might be able to, too.

That one need not register for the AA bonus to qualify.

When using the linke supplied by RobKahari who first mentioned this bonus (Kudos to you Rob ^), I could not register and said I was inelgible.

In PMing with Rob, it became clear that he was not an AA "flying"elite nor was he a dining elite, either, for he just joined with the AA dining program.

Therefore, it seemed that he may have been targeted by AA dining to encourage his spend by this promotion.

As yours truly has been a heavy AA elite diner for most of the year -- as many others are on this board -- and my attempts to register for the $75 promotion were in vain, I am hesitant to accept the oral assurance of one IDINE CS rep when attempts to register and qualify for this promotion are repeatedly denied.

However, if someone does get this promotion without registering, I -- and I am sure others -- would swiftly like to know.

For now, I am concentrating on the DL promotion for although I have qualified for that Miles upon Miles promotion, my wife has not, and therefore, I would rather go with a sure thing just now, rather than one that is anything but assured.

Then, I might proceed to qualifying for the DL Ticket to Dine promotion, if I can earn the bonus miles for that one, as well.

Only after that -- absent no other promotions being put forward for the balance of December -- would I resume using my credit cards I have linked to my AA dining account -- unless, of course, someone reports qualifying for the bonus without registering for it!

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 7, 08, 10:08 am
On looking at the t&c to answer NJUPINTHEAIR's question in his/her thread, I see that this DL offer is one-off, capped at 1,000 mi. The AA one isn't.

Correct, but that begs the question whether one is qualified to participate in the AA bonus, even though one may not be able to sign up for it.

That question still remains.

Firewind
Dec 7, 08, 4:17 pm
Ahhh... I think I see the problem. I think your cutter and paster had a hitch in its giddyup. Or a glitch in its... nevermind. :D It left out the part of the OP that said registration is required.

And what I meant about not needing to register first is that I called AAdvantage Rewards Network customer service, when I saw the promotion, to ask when it started. I'd had dines on 11/28, 29 and 30. The customer service representative said that I would still get the credit for them, even though I was registering on the 1st. My question to her arose because some promotions (not saying it's the case with Rewards Network) don't kick in for a customer until after the customer registers. My syntax could have been better, but I'm still trying to figure out a better way of saying it -- especially if this rendition doesn't. I would be glad to do it by PM, too, if it would help get us out of this.

And I do get - "Kudos to you Rob^" - that I stepped on the wrong bus (not yours) and truly inadvertently stepped on your toes.

But before I get my coat... As to the other reason for my OP, can any other participant watching this answer my question about whether it's implicit in "every $75" that it also means "per dine", as some bonuses have been (this DL one, for instance)? Mine that otherwise qualify haven't been swept yet; meantime, it affects what I do.

Thank you. :)

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 7, 08, 6:20 pm
Firewind --

The only one who has perpetuated a glitch, unfortunately, is you with your inaccurate references to this promotion. Indeed, you still seem to suffer from this as it is difficult to understand your references to coats and bus(es). The best I can make out of your story is that you were eligible for this promotion -- although you have never stated this -- and were able to register for it -- although you again fail to convey whether this is actually the case. I hope, however, you now see that not all AA diners were eligible for this promotion, and that your inarticulate discussion of "registering" for this promotion caused this confusion.

However, you seem to imply that you were eligible, as you appear to want to know the mechanics by which this promotion will operate.

Assuming that you are eligible -- something that remains unstated by you -- your question about a $75 dine: It is unclear under the AA rules, but the DL Ticket to Dine promotion (but not the Miles upon Miles promotion) and other such promotions do require a dine in one sitting above a specific threshold to qualfiy. This AA promotion is silent on this account and one could assume that there is no minimum dine in one sitting to qualify for this AA promotion, first mentioned by RobKhoari in the appropriate thread.

The best thing to for you to do -- besides expressing yourself better - is to contact an IDINE CS rep and ask them this specific question. Moreover, as this promotion only appeared a couple of days ago, it is doubtful that anyone knows for sure the operation of the rules of this promotion, as the dines have yet to hit their account -- this is something that you, yourself, have experienced. Hence, it is likely that most others who are eligbile for this promotion are in the same boat as you and do not have definitive proof of the workings of this promotion.

Although I have posed a couple of questions about the concurrent DL promotions now running, seeking input from those FT members who may have an answer to my query, I already have sent an e-mail to IDINE requesting clarification of same, as well.

I suggest you do the same.

sdsearch
Dec 8, 08, 8:45 am
And what I meant about not needing to register first is that I called AAdvantage Rewards Network customer service, when I saw the promotion, to ask when it started. I'd had dines on 11/28, 29 and 30. The customer service representative said that I would still get the credit for them, even though I was registering on the 1st. My question to her arose because some promotions (not saying it's the case with Rewards Network) don't kick in for a customer until after the customer registers.
Don't jump to conclusions. This does not necessarily mean that RN promos work without registering first, or even that this promo works without registering first. I suspect at the time you called, those dines from the 28th, 29th, and 30th had not yet posted, right? If so, that's all they might have meant. (I seem to recall from some other RN situation where you had to register, it mattered whether you registered before the dines it affected posted, not whether you registered before those dines occurred.)

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 8, 08, 9:19 am
Don't jump to conclusions. This does not necessarily mean that RN promos work without registering first, or even that this promo works without registering first. I suspect at the time you called, those dines from the 28th, 29th, and 30th had not yet posted, right? If so, that's all they might have meant. (I seem to recall from some other RN situation where you had to register, it mattered whether you registered before the dines it affected posted, not whether you registered before those dines occurred.)

SDS --

You are spot on with your recollections. In addition, as I had noted above, an oral statement from a CS rep does not an ironclad guarantee make. That is why I have e-mailed them in the past for an answer.

I have learned over time, that the only thing that you might change before the dine actually hits your account, is the dining program to which your credit card is registered. In the past, I have sucessfully changed my credit card after dining at a particular establishment but before the dine hit my account. In that way, I received the credit in the program I subsequently switched to later (.e.g. Card orginally registered to DL program, but got credit in AA's program).

Jailer
Dec 8, 08, 9:39 am
I called and tried to force registration and was told by the CSR, “I believe that this promo is for non-heavy users.” I’m not sure if she was talking about weight, or about dining frequency, although there is a correlation, I am sure.

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 8, 08, 10:04 am
I called and tried to force registration and was told by the CSR, “I believe that this promo is for non-heavy users.” I’m not sure if she was talking about weight, or about dining frequency, although there is a correlation, I am sure.
HA HA!

Well, that definitely counts me out!

ALadyNCal
Dec 8, 08, 3:05 pm
Will also be interested if someone gets the clarification about $75 accumulative dollars, or $75 per dine. There are lots of casual restaurants in our area in iDine, so reaching $75 PER DINE would require effort. I know I could get gift cards, but there aren't that many that I want.

I had been building DH's status. So, "I" got the targeted email. I used to put my effort into Elite @ DL, so haven't participated to get Elite @ AA. DH is definitely ELITE @ AA. So, "I" -- the non-user -- was targeted. When I tried to register DH, it said he was ineligible. This supports other experience above.

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 8, 08, 5:20 pm
Will also be interested if someone gets the clarification about $75 accumulative dollars, or $75 per dine. There are lots of casual restaurants in our area in iDine, so reaching $75 PER DINE would require effort. I know I could get gift cards, but there aren't that many that I want.

I had been building DH's status. So, "I" got the targeted email. I used to put my effort into Elite @ DL, so haven't participated to get Elite @ AA. DH is definitely ELITE @ AA. So, "I" -- the non-user -- was targeted. When I tried to register DH, it said he was ineligible. This supports other experience above.


I find it unlikely that AA would require a $75 dine in one sitting. Only time will tell which it is. With other bonuses MIA after the DL bonuses expire on 12/15 I think it worth your while to go for an accumulation jsut to see if it triggers it.

ALadyNCal
Dec 8, 08, 9:35 pm
As noted, I am not Elite but was targeted. IF I had a $75 dine, it would be 3x75 (225), plus the 1K bonus, for 1225 miles. Does everyone qualify for the "rate your dine" get 5 miles per dollar? If yes, that would be another 375 miles for a total of 1600 miles.

DH doesn't qualify for the new promo, so if he spent $75 on a dine, he would get 5+5 miles per dollar for 750 miles.

likry2000
Dec 14, 08, 4:11 pm
I signed up and forgot about it. It expires Dec. 15-tomorrow. Can anyone tell me if tomorrow(15th) is included. It says "by Dec. 15".

Thanks.

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 14, 08, 9:02 pm
I signed up and forgot about it. It expires Dec. 15-tomorrow. Can anyone tell me if tomorrow(15th) is included. It says "by Dec. 15".

Thanks.


YES.

But, if you also signed up for the Miles upon Miles bonus, then the latter bonus must be fulfilled first --that would require a cumulative $200 dine tomorrow and it would be unlikely that another $50 dine in one sitting is even possible for you to do in order to obtain the Ticket to Dine bonus.

If you only signed up for the Ticket to Dine bonus, then one $50 or more dine in one sitting will qualify you for the bonus.

Global_Hi_Flyer
Dec 15, 08, 8:24 am
YES.

But, if you also signed up for the Miles upon Miles bonus, then the latter bonus must be fulfilled first --that would require a cumulative $200 dine tomorrow and it would be unlikely that another $50 dine in one sitting is even possible for you to do in order to obtain the Ticket to Dine bonus.

If you only signed up for the Ticket to Dine bonus, then one $50 or more dine in one sitting will qualify you for the bonus.

Don't know about you, but I satisfied the entire Miles upon Miles over the weekend. One meal at $82, one meal at $73, and one meal at $47. All I'd need to do is take a couple of co-workers for a nice lunch in DC and we could hit $200 quite easily. $50 or more is easy for Mrs. GHF and I for dinner....

YMMV.

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 15, 08, 10:05 am
Don't know about you, but I satisfied the entire Miles upon Miles over the weekend. One meal at $82, one meal at $73, and one meal at $47. All I'd need to do is take a couple of co-workers for a nice lunch in DC and we could hit $200 quite easily. $50 or more is easy for Mrs. GHF and I for dinner....

YMMV.


Global Hi --

Actually, I completed Miles upon Miles in one sitting at Whym last week, and repeated it for my wife over this past weekend. Glad that you were able to satisify the conditions, as well.

However, I was responding to the OP question, which seemed to indicate to me that he would only have one day -- today -- at satisfying the Tcket to Dine promotion. My caution was that since the Miles upon Miles takes precedence, trying to do both promotions in one day could be exceedingly tricky, as it would be up to chance -- and IDINE -- to record which dines posted first on the last day of promotins.

To use an extreme example, say you had 2 dines, one of $200 and the other of $50. If they had occurred on separate days, the one after the other, one would certainly be qualified for both promotios. However, if they were to occur on the last day of both promotions, there is no assurance that the $200 dine would be the first dine to be applied to the Miles upon Miles promotion. IF the $50 dine happened to be applied first, then you would still have to satisfy the remaining $150 for that promotion. Although the $200 dine would do so, the additional $50 of that dine could not be split and be applied to the Ticket to Dine promo -- you are SOL.

The only way to satisfy both promotions in one day, is to have 5 $50 or more dines on that day, ensuring that the 5th dine was over the $50 threshold for the Ticket to Dine bonus.

The OP may have one dine today that is over $50, but if he/she also had signed up for the Miles upon Miles promo, then that would take precedence over the Ticket to Dine promotion, and he/she would satisfy neither on this last day of both promotions.

Long story short, be sure if you signed up for both or just the Ticket to Dine promotion before trying to qualify on this last day of either promotion.

Global_Hi_Flyer
Dec 15, 08, 10:20 am
Global Hi --

Actually, I completed Miles upon Miles in one sitting at Whym last week, and repeated it for my wife over this past weekend. Glad that you were able to satisify the conditions, as well.

However, I was responding to the OP question, which seemed to indicate to me that he would only have one day -- today -- at satisfying the Tcket to Dine promotion. My caution was that since the Miles upon Miles takes precedence, trying to do both promotions in one day could be exceedingly tricky, as it would be up to chance -- and IDINE -- to record which dines posted first on the last day of promotins.

To use an extreme example, say you had 2 dines, one of $200 and the other of $50. If they had occurred on separate days, the one after the other, one would certainly be qualified for both promotios. However, if they were to occur on the last day of both promotions, there is no assurance that the $200 dine would be the first dine to be applied to the Miles upon Miles promotion. IF the $50 dines happened to be applied first, then you would still have to satisfy the remaining $150 for that promotion. Although the $200 dine would do so, the additional $50 of that dine could not be split and be applied to the Ticket to Dine promo -- you are SOL.

The only way to satisfy both promotions in one day, is to have 5 $50 or more dines on that day, ensuring that the 5th dine was over the $50 threshold for the Ticket to Dine bonus.

The OP may have one dine today that is over $50, but if he/she also had signed up for the Miles upon Miles promo, then that would take precedence over the Ticket to Dine promotion, and he/she would satisfy neither on this last day of both promotions.

Long story short, be sure if you signed up for both or just the Ticket to Dine promotion before trying to qualify on this last day of either promotion.

I hear you and understand.

I'm just thinking of my patterns - and the fact that it's holiday season - it wouldn't be too hard for me to bust $200 on two meals in one day. Again, YMMV

NJUPINTHEAIR
Dec 15, 08, 10:59 am
I hear you and understand.

I'm just thinking of my patterns - and the fact that it's holiday season - it wouldn't be too hard for me to bust $200 on two meals in one day. Again, YMMV

Agreed. The only question is how the $250 is divied up to accomplish both promotions.

Global_Hi_Flyer
Dec 15, 08, 12:09 pm
Agreed. The only question is how the $250 is divied up to accomplish both promotions.

We just dropped $200 on a lunch for 4 (business development). I have dinner tonight with a couple of friends - that will bust $200. $400 in meals today...

The other option this time of year is to buy a reasonable meal and ask them to add a gift certificate to the check. With that, you can easily make a couple of $200 charges in a day, and use the gift card for yourself later.

The problem is finding a restaurant and/or guest list that's good enough to make the $$$ work. "Baja Fresh" won't cut it.... "Sushi Ko" will...

jw3putt
Dec 15, 08, 1:00 pm
We just dropped $200 on a lunch for 4 (business development). I have dinner tonight with a couple of friends - that will bust $200. $400 in meals today...

The other option this time of year is to buy a reasonable meal and ask them to add a gift certificate to the check. With that, you can easily make a couple of $200 charges in a day, and use the gift card for yourself later.

The problem is finding a restaurant and/or guest list that's good enough to make the $$$ work. "Baja Fresh" won't cut it.... "Sushi Ko" will...

When you buy a gift certificate, there is no sales tax. If you add a gift certificate to you dinner bill, you may have to pay sales tax.

Global_Hi_Flyer
Dec 15, 08, 1:24 pm
When you buy a gift certificate, there is no sales tax. If you add a gift certificate to you dinner bill, you may have to pay sales tax.

Hmmm... the times I've done this the restaurant systems were smart enough to not add tax (showed as a non-taxable item on the store (not credit card) receipt. You just have to remember to not tip on that amount.

ExitRowAisle
Dec 15, 08, 4:33 pm
Maybe I was the only one confused about whether the AA promo required a $75 spend in one sitting or could be accomplished with multiple transactions, but this is the the e-mail correspondence I received from Rewards Network today when I asked whether the $75 had to be achieved in one dining transaction:

Thank you for writing The AAdvantage Dining program and The AAdvantage Hotel program!

The spending amount can be achieved by dining at one or more of our participating restaurants. The $75 does not have to be achieved at one restaurant.

If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to reply.

MichaelColey
Dec 25, 08, 10:57 pm
With the AA promotion to get 1000 bonus miles for every $75 spent, does iDine consider the cumulative spend during the promotion? I've spent just over $300 since it started (the last couple haven't posted yet), so I think I should qualify for 4000 miles in bonuses.

What has me concerned, though, is that my first 1000 mile bonus listed the qualifying transactions, showing my first 6 transactions getting me to $74.09 and then a $22.07 transaction getting me over the $75 threshold (to $96.16). It's not clear if the additional $21.16 from that transaction will carry over into the next $75 or not. I would assume that it would, but the way it lists specific transactions with each bonus makes me wonder.

MichaelColey
Jan 1, 09, 3:41 pm
I did get all four 1000 point bonuses (with about $301 in spending), so this promotion did work on a cumulative basis. I think I will end up earning about 22 miles per dollar spent in the promotion after the rate-your-dine bonuses post -- gotta love it! (It would have been even higher, but my first several dines were before I made it to VIP.)



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