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QRC3288
Nov 29, 08, 8:10 am
Sorry I can't find the link, but I remember reading a day or two back about CX potentially delaying Boeing deliveries at this point - with the exception of 747-8s for cargos, aren't the only remaining Boeings on order 777 ERs?


sxc
Nov 29, 08, 8:40 am
I think the SCMP today said there are also 747-400ERFs on order.

QRC3288
Nov 29, 08, 9:01 am
I think the SCMP today said there are also 747-400ERFs on order.

Right right, I remember that now. But I'm guessing they were referring to the 777ERs?


yiu
Nov 29, 08, 10:32 am
There is more information on Cathay Pacific News section. The press release on Nov28th about financial crisis.

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_HK/aboutus/pressroomdetails?refID=1ed7e4334d1ed110VgnVCM10000 00ad21c39____

It states that 748 and 773ER will be delayed.

B-HXB
Nov 29, 08, 3:11 pm
The 77W deliveries have been pushed back because of the Boeing strikes.

QRC3288
Nov 30, 08, 2:32 am
The 77W deliveries have been pushed back because of the Boeing strikes.

I think that's the convenient corporate explanation, but I don't think that's the whole story. The SCMP article said Boeing would use the strike to "negotiate a delay with Boeing", and that to "negotiate a plan" alone would take 60-90 days (I think the strike was 57 days), and insinuating that there likely would be another delay **after** this "negotiate a plan for delays" period. I can't find it, but the Bloomberg article was even more blunt, I think using the word "suspending deliveries".

The Boeing strike is I think more a good excuse for airlines to cover up the need to push back deliveries in a very uncertain future - and currently declining - economic environment. I think there's a good chance we'll see Cathay cutting back 777 deliveries far greater than the magnitude of the 57 day strike, especially taking a look at some of their equipment and capacity changes (the general theme seems to be smaller and less) going forward.

Marco Polo
Dec 3, 08, 4:31 am
CX has sold 5 triple 7 s to Trans Aero and has parked a further 8 planes in the desert according to a senior pilot

QRC3288
Dec 3, 08, 9:16 am
CX has sold 5 triple 7 s to Trans Aero and has parked a further 8 planes in the desert according to a senior pilot

Very interesting, does your friend know what type of planes they sent to the desert?

sxc
Dec 3, 08, 9:37 am
Very interesting, does your friend know what type of planes they sent to the desert?

Maybe some 747s with new config, non existent AC power, malfunctioning IFE and broken J class seats? It's cheaper than fixing them?

ChrisLi
Dec 3, 08, 9:45 am
Very interesting, does your friend know what type of planes they sent to the desert?

There are news on pilot site / cx that they are parking 747-x00F, no passenger fleet is parked yet

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_HK/aboutus/pressroomdetails?CX_LANGUAGE=en&CX_COUNTRY=HK&refID=1ed7e4334d1ed110VgnVCM1000000ad21c39____

http://www.pprune.org/fragrant-harbour/351121-cx-will-park-more-aeroplanes.html#post4534020

KO2546
Dec 3, 08, 10:32 am
Maybe some 747s with new config, non existent AC power, malfunctioning IFE and broken J class seats? It's cheaper than fixing them?
:D

I hope they are sending LHR-based FA to look after the planes, keeping the aluminium well moisturised!



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