Gaming Loyalty Programs - Total Rewards (Harrahs affiliated) Seven Star Card: Questions




mjcewl1284
Nov 26, 08, 8:42 am
1- How do you get this card? Is it one of those invite only?
2- Is it worth getting? Heard of comp flights, rooms, and such.
3- I can only imagine what the comp point level for this card is.

I am currently Platinum for Total Rewards. Can anybody holding a Seven Star share some experiences? Thanks


baccarat_king
Nov 26, 08, 9:07 am
1- How do you get this card? Is it one of those invite only?
2- Is it worth getting? Heard of comp flights, rooms, and such.
3- I can only imagine what the comp point level for this card is.

I am currently Platinum for Total Rewards. Can anybody holding a Seven Star share some experiences? Thanks

1- 100,000 Tier Points ($1,000,000 Coin-In at Video Poker or $500,000 Coin-In at Slots --- OR a LOT of high average table play!) [Platinum is 4,000 Tier and Diamond is 11,000 Tier]
After you hit 100,000 Tier they approve the level upgrade, based on you not having any outstanding credit issues etc. etc.

2- Hard to answer, buy itself, not really. Approximately 10x the play of Diamond, and NOT 10x the benefits. You do get a yearly $500 dinner (called you "annual trip") and some other perks (like the 7* lounges -- which are rather limited). You also have a 48hour comp-room reservation guarantee. VIP CHECK-IN (instead of Diamond check-in) where available and when open (in AC, VIP is ONLY open on Saturday and Sunday at properties like Harrah's). You "should" get the best available rooms (and often a suite), but once again, this is often dependent on your theoretical (with regard to the suites). With regard to regular rooms, getting the BEST regular room is basically a given for a 7*. First in line access to restaurants and clubs (though, this is seldom much better than the Diamond benefits). Reservation guarantee for all restaurants, but this can sometimes be a bit YMMV (and once again, isn't often that much better than Diamond).

Best benefits are still based on you having a stellar theoretical (ADT).

One of the interesting benefits, is that you can NAME a friend/relative as a 7* companion, and their card will also be upgraded to 7* -- but, it will (unfortunately) say COMPANION in big letters on their card.

3- Not sure what you are asking, but those who play more will inevitably earn many more RCs (Reward Credits)

FFMilesJunkie
Nov 26, 08, 9:19 am
It used to be 100,000 tier points, but I think they are using a different system now that makes it up to the player's "home" casino how they offer 7* even if someone qualifies with points.

The tier levels with Harrahs are much different than what you may be used to with the airlines. While there are some hard benefits that kick in with each level, the real benefits are all based on your ADT (avg daily theoretical loss). This number is what determines your soft benefits such as free flights, cash, suites, etc.

In my opinion, the best of both worlds is to keep a decent ADT as a low Diamond. You really don't benefit from getting much over 11,000 tier points especially if you are gambling low amounts over several days. For example, if you stop by your local Harrah's casino on your way home from work a couple days a week and rack up 200 tier points per visit, you'll end up the year as a Diamond but you'll have a low ADT and your offers will not be earth shattering. Now, if you make 3 or 4 weekend trips to an out of town casino per year and drop 1000 tier points per day, then you'll be a low Diamond (11,000-15,000 points), but your ADT will be decent and you'll get some nice offers. I'm part of that 2nd group and we get free rooms pretty much any day of the year with $300-$500 per trip in incentives (travel cash, gifts, tournaments, etc) plus another $300-$500 in comps.


baccarat_king
Nov 26, 08, 10:45 am
duplicate post.....

baccarat_king
Nov 26, 08, 10:51 am
It used to be 100,000 tier points, but I think they are using a different system now that makes it up to the player's "home" casino how they offer 7* even if someone qualifies with points.

Nope, ;) It's still based on 100,000 tier points.

Per the Harrah's website :

The World of Seven Stars Beckons…
Experience a world of exclusive privileges reserved for our most elite guests. Guests who achieve Seven Stars status are rewarded for their loyalty with an extensive list of benefits. Revel in the good things in life with complimentary stays in our exquisite hotels from coast to coast, high quality gifts from world-famous brands, a $500 celebratory dinner at any Harrah's-owned restaurant and so much more. The experience of the Seven Stars Tier can only be described as "extraordinary." To be considered, members must earn 100,000 Tier Credits in a calendar year and have a Total Rewards account in good standing.

No "official" connection to Harrah's,

But, some more details can be found on this Seven Stars Insider (http://sevenstarsinsider.googlepages.com/) website.

FFMilesJunkie
Nov 26, 08, 3:24 pm
Nope, ;) It's still based on 100,000 tier points.

good to know, even though I won't be shooting for it anytime soon. I'm still happy with my low Diamond status. Just keep my ADT (or whatever they are calling it now!) up and the offers continue to flow. :D

baccarat_king
Nov 26, 08, 4:08 pm
good to know, even though I won't be shooting for it anytime soon. I'm still happy with my low Diamond status. Just keep my ADT (or whatever they are calling it now!) up and the offers continue to flow. :D

^^^ yep, LOW diamond is most definitely the way to go! Lots of value for the gambling buck. ADT is still ADT, just no "easy" way to get the number --- without asking a host.

mjcewl1284
Nov 27, 08, 6:03 am
Thanks for the input people. I am Atlantic City based for my gaming purposes and just recently broke 4K for Platinum. Am mainly a Hold'em player but also log around 10-15 hrs of blackjack each time I'm in AC (about 8-10 times a yr), amongst other table games. I have split a lot of play between Harrahs properties and The Borgata and was looking to only play Hold'em at The Borg in order to put more points on the Total Rewards card.

mbstone
Nov 27, 08, 1:51 pm
At every restaurant or other location where status counts, e.g. the player club, front desk and lounges, there is a blue batphone for 7 Stars members' use. I have always wondered about this. Why would you need to use it and what does it do?

MoCheex
Nov 28, 08, 1:43 pm
I am trying to get some ideas for maximizing value of my TR Credits. Are there any items in the catalog that are good values? Are there other ways to maximize value?

I am Seven Stars and have about 300,000 points. Thanks.

QuietLion
Nov 30, 08, 12:35 am
You need 100,000 points to be considered. You may still not get 7*.

QL

mjcewl1284
Nov 30, 08, 9:56 am
You need 100,000 points to be considered. You may still not get 7*.

QL

Hey QuietLion, how are the tables treating you lately?

QuietLion
Dec 1, 08, 11:45 am
Tables?

QL

nrr
Dec 2, 08, 11:27 am
I am trying to get some ideas for maximizing value of my TR Credits. Are there any items in the catalog that are good values? Are there other ways to maximize value?

I am Seven Stars and have about 300,000 points. Thanks.

Harrahs casinos in Atlantic City are always running "conversion" offers--you can redeem reward credits for REAL cash--most of the time it is 2:1, about once a year in some casinos it is 1:1. Generally the maximum of cash redeemable is $3000.

baccarat_king
Dec 16, 08, 7:40 pm
You need 100,000 points to be considered. You may still not get 7*.

Excellent point! It is totally at the discretion of Harrah's if they desire to "reward" one with top status... something to keep in mind when playing to the maximum at Harrah's; as 7*'s is no guarantee........

mbstone
Dec 17, 08, 9:33 pm
Excellent point! It is totally at the discretion of Harrah's if they desire to "reward" one with top status... something to keep in mind when playing to the maximum at Harrah's; as 7*'s is no guarantee........
Somehow I doubt that earning 100,000 points playing the pass and come with full odds is going to get you there. Methinks you also have to make lots of sucker bets.

ChicagoIL
Oct 4, 10, 1:48 pm
1- How do you get this card? Is it one of those invite only?
2- Is it worth getting? Heard of comp flights, rooms, and such.
3- I can only imagine what the comp point level for this card is.

I am currently Platinum for Total Rewards. Can anybody holding a Seven Star share some experiences? Thanks


1- You get this card by earning 100,000 tier score.
a) It's either 1,000,000 in video poker
b) 500,000 in slots
c) undefined amount on table games

Even though you reach 100,000 you may still be denied seven stars achievement.
You must earn all 100,000. I was at 98,000 and had a good relationship with hosts and marketing but was told that I would need to earn it all on my own.

2- Honestly is it worth getting? It really depends.
Are you going to gamble anyways? Or are you gambling just to get the status?
If you are going to gamble anyways, you will eventually get it. Please do not push yourself to bet more or stay longer if you are just trying to earn the status just to say you have it. Financially to me it is not worth it, because assuming u are a loser at your chosen game, anything you get from this card will be more than paid for by your losses!
Yes you get a free trip for you and a guest up to 1,200 in value. 500 credit to your room on that trip. A free 500 dollar one time use meal through the year. Priority line service, access to diamond and 7 star lounges. Other than that really what do you get? Free guaranteed room with 48 or 24 hour advanced notice.
My favorite part of being a seven star is passing people in line who are gold, platinum, and especially diamond. Cause some diamond players think they're the s)-(it. So when the cashier says 7 star and a diamond walks up, they push them back. That's the best!!! Did I mention I'm only 26 years old...and I look like I'm 21.

3- comp level of points? That does not make much sense. A 7 star will not make more points than a gold member if they play the exact same way. I think a lot of people on this site have it right. Honestly it doesn't matter if you're a diamond or a 7star in terms of comps. All hosts have discretion to allow a comp if you do not have enough points on your card. A 7 star player who played a lot from january through june and then takes a break from then till december and comes in and wants something probably will not get it. Assuming they were using their RC's while they were playing. But a diamond member or gold plat...whatever, who comes in and plays regularly and asks for something will usually get it.
also, quantity of a bet will not get you more points on a table game rather than being spread out. Meaning, a 10,000 bet will get you less points than 10 sessions of taking 1000 only.
My best advice to someone who wants to get the status would be to be friendly with your pitboss of your favorite game. That is if the game is a table game. They are able to boost up your avg bet which will help you.
to give you an idea, It took me about 5 months to get mine. About 80k of it in a 1 month span where I went on a huge rush. I was logging in 4-8 hour days betting between 500-10000. And no it wasn't like let it ride or carribean, it was on baccarat and black jack.

Any questions just e-mail me or repost on this forum.

John

mlad1101
Oct 5, 10, 11:52 am
1- You get this card by earning 100,000 tier score.
a) It's either 1,000,000 in video poker
b) 500,000 in slots
c) undefined amount on table games

Even though you reach 100,000 you may still be denied seven stars achievement.
You must earn all 100,000. I was at 98,000 and had a good relationship with hosts and marketing but was told that I would need to earn it all on my own.

2- Honestly is it worth getting? It really depends.
Are you going to gamble anyways? Or are you gambling just to get the status?
If you are going to gamble anyways, you will eventually get it. Please do not push yourself to bet more or stay longer if you are just trying to earn the status just to say you have it. Financially to me it is not worth it, because assuming u are a loser at your chosen game, anything you get from this card will be more than paid for by your losses!
Yes you get a free trip for you and a guest up to 1,200 in value. 500 credit to your room on that trip. A free 500 dollar one time use meal through the year. Priority line service, access to diamond and 7 star lounges. Other than that really what do you get? Free guaranteed room with 48 or 24 hour advanced notice.
My favorite part of being a seven star is passing people in line who are gold, platinum, and especially diamond. Cause some diamond players think they're the s)-(it. So when the cashier says 7 star and a diamond walks up, they push them back. That's the best!!! Did I mention I'm only 26 years old...and I look like I'm 21.

3- comp level of points? That does not make much sense. A 7 star will not make more points than a gold member if they play the exact same way. I think a lot of people on this site have it right. Honestly it doesn't matter if you're a diamond or a 7star in terms of comps. All hosts have discretion to allow a comp if you do not have enough points on your card. A 7 star player who played a lot from january through june and then takes a break from then till december and comes in and wants something probably will not get it. Assuming they were using their RC's while they were playing. But a diamond member or gold plat...whatever, who comes in and plays regularly and asks for something will usually get it.
also, quantity of a bet will not get you more points on a table game rather than being spread out. Meaning, a 10,000 bet will get you less points than 10 sessions of taking 1000 only.
My best advice to someone who wants to get the status would be to be friendly with your pitboss of your favorite game. That is if the game is a table game. They are able to boost up your avg bet which will help you.
to give you an idea, It took me about 5 months to get mine. About 80k of it in a 1 month span where I went on a huge rush. I was logging in 4-8 hour days betting between 500-10000. And no it wasn't like let it ride or carribean, it was on baccarat and black jack.

Any questions just e-mail me or repost on this forum.

John

You do know this post is 2 years old? Also been answered.

onlyquestions
Nov 11, 10, 10:43 am
Hi Folks, good info, even if some of it is dated.

I am trolling the boards trying to learn the best ways to extract the most value from my new Diamond status.

If anyone has recommendations, feel free to post here or message me directly.

Thanks and good luck to all!

QuietLion
Nov 14, 10, 12:47 pm
The main value is cutting lines and getting free rooms any time. You should be able to book free rooms on the web site even if you don't get an offer. Don't forget cutting the cab line!

QL

GregGH
Jan 12, 11, 6:11 pm
here is a site that can help on 7* info ....

http://sites.google.com/site/sevenstarsinsider/

Greg

bruceatf
Jun 25, 12, 5:36 pm
querstion, understand that you can become 7star in later part of 2012, say 10/12. I know you can take an annual trip with your 7stars between issuance of card and 3/31/13. Can take another trip between 4/1/13-3/31/14. How about your annual gift, cruise, and special party? Can you take one of these before 3/31/13 and another next year, thanks

gkbiiii
Jul 8, 12, 11:40 am
For 2012 Seven Stars do get a free NCL cruise as well.

nrr
Jul 9, 12, 11:31 pm
For 2012 Seven Stars do get a free NCL cruise as well.

Before becoming 7*, I had gotten several "free" cruise promos from Harrah's Ent. A few required flying to the cruise embarkation point (extra expense on my part); I asked about "other fees", (1)taxes (port etc.), (2)tips (required). After adding all this up, to me, it was NO bargain.

gkbiiii
Jul 9, 12, 11:48 pm
Before becoming 7*, I had gotten several "free" cruise promos from Harrah's Ent. A few required flying to the cruise embarkation point (extra expense on my part); I asked about "other fees", (1)taxes (port etc.), (2)tips (required). After adding all this up, to me, it was NO bargain.

Do you like being a Seven Star, as several people I know, have not been impressed by it?

nrr
Jul 10, 12, 2:41 pm
Do you like being a Seven Star, as several people I know, have not been impressed by it?

I only play slots (and slot players in general get better rewards etc. than table game players).
Yes! I get all kinds of nice offers and promos (which I didn't get as a Diamond.)
[I used to play a fair amount in the MLIFE system as well as Harrahs (Total Rewards)--I found that MLIFE tried to emulate some of the good features of TR, but not enough. So I concentrated my playing in TR, and I feel it has been to my advantage.

DVMonthego
Aug 8, 12, 7:51 pm
Do you like being a Seven Star, as several people I know, have not been impressed by it?

Has not paid off for me. NOT impressed.

bruceatf
Aug 18, 12, 10:57 pm
how many free nights do you receive using your 7star annual trip, thanks

nrr
Aug 19, 12, 3:56 pm
how many free nights do you receive using your 7star annual trip, thanks

I just looked at the 7* "info" packet, and it does NOT specify. But most of my regular offers state 4 nights (for LAS) and 3 nights (for AC), I would guess that is the minimum--I've even gotten offers requiring a 4 night stay.

MrColdShower
Aug 20, 12, 9:23 am
It has been a few years since I had 7* status. I don't miss it at all. I get everything I need as a Diamond. I have a great host in AC, and he will grant me access to the 7* lounge there when I ask. About the only thing I miss is the line-cutting privilege when I want to jump ahead of a bunch of Diamonds, but that alone is not worth the extra gaming required. Then again, I've never set out to achieve 7*; I have just accepted it as a nice perk if I get it during the course of my normal gaming activities.

Pokernocchio
Sep 8, 12, 2:36 am
Hi
I have TR diamond status, not sure when this happened. I never ask for comps but usually get my room/suite comped.
I usually have between $5-$10k budget. I play blackjack on average $100 per hand and at least 6 hours per day. I do have the odd $1k roulette spin if I'm up playing blackjack. (if I win I up my blackjack stake to between $100-$300)

Is a room comp about the going rate for this play or should I be pushing for more?? I don't really like to ask for things but have no idea if I under/over rate my own play.

Cheers!!

MrChu
Sep 8, 12, 10:48 am
Hi
I have TR diamond status, not sure when this happened. I never ask for comps but usually get my room/suite comped.
I usually have between $5-$10k budget. I play blackjack on average $100 per hand and at least 6 hours per day. I do have the odd $1k roulette spin if I'm up playing blackjack. (if I win I up my blackjack stake to between $100-$300)

Is a room comp about the going rate for this play or should I be pushing for more?? I don't really like to ask for things but have no idea if I under/over rate my own play.

Cheers!!

If you are playing $100 a hand on BJ I would have the casino host pick up my meals and show tickets. They may or may not pick up the most expensive restaurants but they should be able to pick up all of your meals. I hope you have a designated host and I would call them before I get there to see what they have to offer and also call them the night before you check out to clear your tab

bruceatf
Oct 6, 12, 3:02 pm
I have question on using your 7stars annual dinner at restaurants not owned by harrahs, for example Ruth Chris in New Orelenas (soon in vegas harrahs), Gordon Ramseys in paris, Besh's, nola, etc.

nrr
Oct 8, 12, 10:44 am
If you are playing $100 a hand on BJ I would have the casino host pick up my meals and show tickets. They may or may not pick up the most expensive restaurants but they should be able to pick up all of your meals. I hope you have a designated host and I would call them before I get there to see what they have to offer and also call them the night before you check out to clear your tab

In Atlantic City I get RFB, so my restaurant charges are covered, but:
The "upscale" rests. in Harrahs and Caesars are IMHO not all that great, and while the food etc. is covered, the TIP is not, so if I eat a meal for $100, I pay $15-$20 in tips (15% or 20%, depending how good the service is).

nrr
Oct 8, 12, 10:48 am
I have question on using your 7stars annual dinner at restaurants not owned by harrahs, for example Ruth Chris in New Orelenas (soon in vegas harrahs), Gordon Ramseys in paris, Besh's, nola, etc.

The annual dinner is $500. If you were to use comp dollars at a "non-owned" restaurant it is usually 2:1 ratio, so I'd guess, they would pay $250(?)
[Your annual trip also has $500 in food credit, but, it doesn't have to be on one meal.]

gkbiiii
Nov 5, 12, 7:59 pm
At Harrah's New Orleans you get a flat 50,000 reward credits, so you don't have to use them on that trip.

nrr
Nov 5, 12, 10:05 pm
At Harrah's New Orleans you get a flat 50,000 reward credits, so you don't have to use them on that trip.
Once the 50,000 is deposited in your account, you can convert it 2:1 into free slot play = $250, or wait for special days when the ratio is better.
Do all Harrah's casinos do it the way NO does?
[I guess I should check with my slot host(s) at Caesars AC and Harrah's AC, to see how it works at these Casinos.]
Thanks for the info.

gkbiiii
Dec 24, 12, 7:11 am
I am in Vegas and was wondering if anyone visiting would be willing to sponsor me for the Seven Star Companion Card? I would really thank you all, if anyone would be willing to do it!!



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