Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan - The new AS50 50% EQM, what about earning partner EQM

Tried to make the title say it all. But how will the new ugh, AS50 earn EQM on partner airlines. For example, if I book a AS50 fare, and credit the flight to my Northwest account, how many EQM's will I earn 50% or 100%

I sure miss the old AS50, as it used to be a way you could ALWAYS use your miles, now instead of paying 50%, I pay 0 and just don't fly. Not sure if the bean counter use this in their calculations.

As we say in CRM, some customers need to be FIRED. If a business has consistently unprofitable customers (who aren't even paying their marginal cost), then those customers need to be "encouraged" to go elsewhere. This is no longer about near-term cash flow, it's about the long-term viability and profitability of the airline industry.

I would assume that since AS50's are booked in the same fare class as the fare to which the discount is applied (Y,B,M,H,etc.) that the partner's rules for that fare bucket would apply.

As we say in CRM, some customers need to be FIRED. If a business has consistently unprofitable customers (who aren't even paying their marginal cost), then those customers need to be "encouraged" to go elsewhere. This is no longer about near-term cash flow, it's about the long-term viability and profitability of the airline industry.

You realize that you're saying this on a board that has a huge user base dedicated to trying to pay $0 for $10,000 F TATL airfares, right? As well as to people who are used to being entitled to fly at the front of the plane for free?

:p

I suppose running your business like a Las Vegas casino ("Sorry, sir, you're too good to play our games. We'll have to ask you to leave.") has it's upside, but the converse of that is loyalty is a two-way street- water down enough customer loyalty programs that people derive value from, and you make people walk down to the WN counter, since they figure "hey, both of us can play at this cost/benefit game in dollars and cents".

So the answer to the OP's question was, what?

I have a similar question. If I book an AS50, how many AAdvantage EQM can I get?

Can you actually do this- credit a non-AS account for AS50 awards? I would think you couldn't, but hey...

I would assume that since AS50's are booked in the same fare class as the fare to which the discount is applied (Y,B,M,H,etc.) that the partner's rules for that fare bucket would apply.

I agree. I don't see any way that the partner would know that you used an AS50, unless maybe AS has some provision to report only 50% of the miles to the partner in such cases using a software trick.

I agree. I don't see any way that the partner would know that you used an AS50, unless maybe AS has some provision to report only 50% of the miles to the partner in such cases using a software trick.

Well, other airlines have the provision to report such a thing to AS--like most discounted BA coach fares, where you only earn 25%.

Wouldn't be hard for AS to do the same.

I suppose stranger things have happened that that an airline wouldn't change the way it reports miles to partners, even though it has changed the way it credits miles to its own program.

No one on the AA board seems to know the answer to this either. Anyone have any recent experience crediting miles from an AS50 to AA?

As we say in CRM, some customers need to be FIRED. If a business has consistently unprofitable customers (who aren't even paying their marginal cost), then those customers need to be "encouraged" to go elsewhere. This is no longer about near-term cash flow, it's about the long-term viability and profitability of the airline industry.

I'm not so sure about your statement. Yes, I agree that a business needs customers from whom it can turn a profit to stay financially viable. However...that's all we've been hearing lately from the airline industry. Makes me start to wonder if the airlines (yes, including our beloved AS) are loving this sick role they're in and taking advantage of us! Have operating expenses gone up so much that the FF program has to be extremely devalued, fares nearly (and sometimes more than) doubled, and services decreased?

I, like most of us on this forum, like a good bargain in air travel...but I also am MVPG, which means I put in my BIS time. I think the airlines could find a happy medium between profitability and value...and when they do (like AS used to), the customers will come. The question is...will AS (or any other airline, for that matter) take this economic downturn too far, devalue their service, and lose some of us to JetBlue, Southwest, and Virgin America??

I'm not so sure about your statement. Yes, I agree that a business needs customers from whom it can turn a profit to stay financially viable. However...that's all we've been hearing lately from the airline industry. Makes me start to wonder if the airlines (yes, including our beloved AS) are loving this sick role they're in and taking advantage of us! Have operating expenses gone up so much that the FF program has to be extremely devalued, fares nearly (and sometimes more than) doubled, and services decreased?

I, like most of us on this forum, like a good bargain in air travel...but I also am MVPG, which means I put in my BIS time. I think the airlines could find a happy medium between profitability and value...and when they do (like AS used to), the customers will come. The question is...will AS (or any other airline, for that matter) take this economic downturn too far, devalue their service, and lose some of us to JetBlue, Southwest, and Virgin America??I also like that the way fuel has tumbled...fares havent tumbled or even budged at all. Same goes for food and other goods. Its always amazing to see prices raised on things and fuel costs sited as the reason yet when fuel prices go down the prices of those goods NEVER goes down with it

This is a very interesting discussion about airline economics. But about earning partner miles on AS50 fares,...anybody?

Just use the same formula as for AS EQM's