TWA FFB/Aviators - Death on 3/03 for LIFETIME TWA Ambassadors




DeClipper
Jun 8, 01, 12:23 pm
What great news , in 1981 I was awarded lifetime membership in the TWA Ambassador Club (in those days in Berlin, TWA's Mr. Posinelli came over with a bottle of bubbly and brought the wallplaque, card and pin). Now we have been sentenced to death-row. AA says, we don't have any lifetime members, we are just a low-life-form-of-peanuts-in-the-seatpocket-airline. Nylon napkins and plastic cups. Thank you. How come, in America, things always get worse, more expensive for lesser service, and low-classier-while-you-look. The Indians had about the lousiest immigration policy I can think of. Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.


zrs70
Jun 8, 01, 1:06 pm
How sad. See this link:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum49/HTML/000313.html

milesrus
Jun 11, 01, 3:16 pm
De Clipper Are you Alive? let's see TWA was on life support so without American you would have lost your lifetime Ambassador Club plus all your miles. Now you will loose just your club membership and not for a couple of years. You still get to keep your miles, fly to 3 times as many places and have a reliable airline. TWA people need to rejoice and be thankful.Why should all of us AA fliers have our chances of using miles be de-valued with another 10 million members coming on aboard and then you guys want instant elite membership and lifetime memberships. I honestly don't believe you believe that you are deserving of this.


TransWorldOne
Jun 11, 01, 4:47 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by milesrus:
...You still get to keep your miles, fly to 3 times as many places and have a reliable airline. TWA people need to rejoice and be thankful.Why should all of us AA fliers have our chances of using miles be de-valued with another 10 million members coming on aboard and then you guys want instant elite membership and lifetime memberships. I honestly don't believe you believe that you are deserving of this.</font>

Operationally, TWA was a more reliable than American.

As for you "honestly (not believing) that (TWA people) believe (they) are deserving of this, I can only say http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif.

socalterp
Jun 11, 01, 7:57 pm
My aren't some of these AA flyers arrogant?

High-Flyer
Jun 11, 01, 8:19 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by TransWorldOne:
Operationally, TWA was a more reliable than American.</font>

I've booked two flights on TWA in the past two weeks. Two weeks ago, my connection in STL was 2.5 hours late due to a mechanical. This week had a mechanical out of MSY and I was re-routed on DL. I'm assuming you intentionally used the past tense "TWA was more reliable" - cuz it don't look like it's too reliable in the present tense.

No need to respond and tell me not to book a TWA flight - I won't.

BTW, did American force TWA into bankruptcy or did TWA do it on their own?

drbala
Jun 11, 01, 8:41 pm
I joined PANAM's lifetime membership program paying $ 900 in 1983. When they went bust, Delta purchased some of their routes and gave the lifetime members a lifetime Crown room club membership. It is so valuable now as you get access to RCC as well. That is a great airline. American should be ashamed to disown lifetime Ambassador club members

High-Flyer
Jun 11, 01, 9:26 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by drbala:
I joined PANAM's lifetime membership program paying $ 900 in 1983. When they went bust, Delta purchased some of their routes and gave the lifetime members a lifetime Crown room club membership. It is so valuable now as you get access to RCC as well. That is a great airline. American should be ashamed to disown lifetime Ambassador club members</font>

My parents are retired senior citizens living in New Orleans. They have had to change HMO's 3 times in the past year due to the HMO's ending their business in Louisiana. Since previous illness coverage is so valuable, I think all of the doctors in south Louisiana should honor expired HMO's. The doctors should be ashamed if they don't do that.



[This message has been edited by High-Flyer (edited 06-11-2001).]

TransWorldOne
Jun 12, 01, 2:02 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by High-Flyer:
I've booked two flights on TWA in the past two weeks. Two weeks ago, my connection in STL was 2.5 hours late due to a mechanical. This week had a mechanical out of MSY and I was re-routed on DL. I'm assuming you intentionally used the past tense "TWA was more reliable" - cuz it don't look like it's too reliable in the present tense.

No need to respond and tell me not to book a TWA flight - I won't.

BTW, did American force TWA into bankruptcy or did TWA do it on their own?
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Hey, *******. You are correct-- I did use the past tense for a reason. By the way, go **** yourself.

American helped TWA into bankruptcy. They were headed that direction with much assistance from Mr. Ichan.

TransWorldOne
Jun 12, 01, 2:04 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by High-Flyer:
No need to respond and tell me not to book a TWA flight - I won't.</font>

One more thing, you *******, I would never encourage even a ******* like yourself to book away from TWA.

Happy High Flying, "High-Flyer..."

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif



[This message has been edited by TransWorldOne (edited 06-12-2001).]

TransWorldOne
Jun 12, 01, 2:06 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by High-Flyer:
[B] My parents are retired senior citizens living in New Orleans. They have had to change HMO's 3 times in the past year due to the HMO's ending their business in Louisiana. Since previous illness coverage is so valuable, I think all of the doctors in south Louisiana should honor expired HMO's. The doctors should be ashamed if they don't do that. </font>

You are a ****ing *******. Try posting a valid comparison...

TransWorldOne
Jun 12, 01, 2:08 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by socalterp:
My aren't some of these AA flyers arrogant?</font>

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif That's for sure... Perhaps one of those surly AA flight attendants will help High-Flyer come down from his "High-Horse!"

High-Flyer
Jun 12, 01, 2:28 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by TransWorldOne:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif That's for sure... Perhaps one of those surly AA flight attendants will help High-Flyer come down from his "High-Horse!"</font>

Hey congrats there - it only took you four posts to be able to make one without a lot of asterisks in the verbiage. Keep at it and I bet pretty soon you'll be able to type a whole paragraph without cursing. Temper...Temper...tsk, tsk....

BTW, if I get take down from my High Horse - we would both be horses as...well, never mind

drbala
Jun 12, 01, 2:47 pm
High Flyer
You are amongst real high flyers and ill placed comments and sarcasm in poor taste will get you nothing except getting lots of asteriks from lots of us and getting flamed.

DeClipper
Jun 12, 01, 3:01 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by milesrus:
De Clipper Are you Alive? I don't believe you believe that you are deserving of this.</font>
A wonderful example of the American (horror) dream. It's tough here (hey, we holocausted all the Indians) , be lucky you did not get killed yet , 23% interest on Credit Cards, violent cops, lousy airlines, terrible food, just LOW class all the way.
I travelled on AA (they are now a Swissair partner), oh boy !, what a cheap racket. On my last transatlantic to Paris, the purser was an old PanAm guy, and he recognised me and excused AA the whole flight, for their terrible performance. Catering doesn't label the carts, the food sucks, the linen is cheap, the caviar pasteurized and the bread to die of. He tired good service, but what AA gives him, it's a shame.
Praise them all you want, TWA had style, something that AA couldn't buy if they wanted to. OK, bad management killed TWA, but maybe their VIP-Lifetimers make a classy crowd in the F-class cabins of AA.

Tango
Jun 12, 01, 4:26 pm
Like it or not, everone on this thread will be seatmates in the not to distant future.

milesrus
Jun 12, 01, 4:43 pm
DeClipper thanks for your reply. It does seem you have been a long time flyer. Believe me I have flown First to Europe Hawaii and Latin America. Unfortunatly everybody wants free upgrades and rock bottom prices. Then you have flight attandents who make $58K per year wanting big raises. Pilots way overpayed making $200k and also wanting raises. Then the price of fuel jumps. When was the last time somebody had a tie on in First Class? My point TWA tried and failed at all of the above. Good service did not help them.When an airline dies; to have anybody throw them a lifeline you guys should say thanks. If American gives you guys Platinum status you guys will stay on TWA especially if you live in St. Louis right? When Braniff died who bailed them out. Luckly for Eastern they had Continental's OnePass and Panam got to roll there miles to Delta.

TransWorldOne
Jun 13, 01, 10:22 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by milesrus:
When an airline dies; to have anybody throw them a lifeline you guys should say thanks.</font>

If AA had not acquired TWA, someone else would have. I am not about to say "thanks" until I see the results of this transaction. I hope the aftermath doesn't resemble AA's purchase of Reno Air or AirCal...

LATREAL
Jun 13, 01, 10:59 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by TransWorldOne:
If AA had not acquired TWA, someone else would have.
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Then why didn't anyone make a legitimate bid but Icahn?

MisterNice
Jun 14, 01, 2:15 pm
I find it amusing in the last five TWA topics this thread re a comp "lifetime" club membership has more posts than all the others combined. I guess that sez a lot regarding the lingering death of this sad airline.

The vultures are still picking on the bankrupt carcass's bones.

MisterNice

Life_Platinum
Jun 15, 01, 8:30 am
I too am disappointed that AA hasn't extended Life Ambassador Club membership more than 2 years. I think that the large number of posts is a reflection many of believing that AA has made a major marketing mistake.

If they don't want my business by continuing not to allow me access with my Family Life Ambassador Club membership, then I'll fly another airline which honored my Life Club Membership when they bought TWA's Life Ambassador Club Membership list.

milesrus
Jun 15, 01, 2:18 pm
Which airline is giving you free Ambassador club membership?



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