MilesBuzz! - Earn miles when someone travels?? Can I?




flyhawaii
Feb 15, 03, 1:28 am
I have miles on many airlines such as American, Hawaiian, United, Northwest (just signed up), Delta, All Nippon, Japan Airlines, and Aloha. I would like to know if I give my mileage number to someone else and if they fly would I earn airline miles on them or on their partners? Anyone ever tried and did it work out? Any tips?


wharvey
Feb 15, 03, 7:49 am
Airlines are very specific that miles go the the flyer... and no one else.

Does not mean someone has not been successful... but I do believe their software actually confirms that the name in the Frequenet Flier account matches the name on the ticket.

William

rustyr
Feb 15, 03, 4:10 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by wharvey:
Airlines are very specific that miles go the the flyer... and no one else.

Does not mean someone has not been successful... but I do believe their software actually confirms that the ""name in the Frequenet Flier account matches the name on the ticket. "" HOW can you do that w/photo id checks at the counter/security areas/possibly again due to Orange level even at the gate? Being in Honolulu-or anywhere that is it would seem best to concentrate on 3-4 programs at most. Back in the old days-paper tickets, no security checkpoints except for baggage, you probably could get up to a dozen people flying for you if you had that many airlines to choose from.

William</font>


dave_261
Feb 17, 03, 8:25 am
I believe I've read on flyertalk that people with the same name (i.e John Doe Jr. and Sr., or John Smith II and III) have found ways to do it. Especially if you're residing at the same residence (and not travelling together), not sure the airlines would have any way to stop this practice.

sowalsky
Feb 17, 03, 12:26 pm
Unless they had a way to biometrically match person to FF account...

JohnG
Feb 17, 03, 3:50 pm
Just curious, but why would someone fly and earn the miles for you i.e. not keep them themselves ?

g_leyser
Feb 17, 03, 4:53 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JohnG:
Just curious, but why would someone fly and earn the miles for you i.e. not keep them themselves ?</font>

Lets say I never fly NW (I don't). And lets say for work I have one random flight on NW for some odd reason because UA is sold out last minute, lets say MSP-ORD. I will never fly NW again, don't have a Worldperks account and will have no use for the few miles I earn.
Now lets say you are a regular NW flier.
Now lets say I'm a really nice guy and seeing that you could make use of the NW miles from my flight, I credit them to your account.
That's an example.
I think that situation could happen very often. I wish we could do it, but alas it can't be done. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif




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aaronma
Feb 17, 03, 8:27 pm
*** Ack -- Disregard my question -- I shoulda have poked around the board to see the other times this was asked (and answered!) ***

Mm. A timely question, one which I was going to bring up in another fashion. However, what if you're traveling with someone else -- will you get double the miles? My situation is, I might be traveling with someone, in which we have different return dates (hence, different reservations completely) -- however, the name on the ticket would be different than the name of the purchaser -- if I give them my, say, NW Worldperks number, would I get that extra credit?

Alternatively, what if I book tickets for two travelers with under the same registration? Would I get double the mileage?

[This message has been edited by aaronma (edited 02-18-2003).]

Punki
Feb 18, 03, 4:08 am
aaronma, you only get miles for your own flights, or the flights of those who share your name and fly under your number.

The only exception to this if is you have an identical twin (or someone who looks enough like you to pass) who flies using your FF number and your photo ID. The big risk to this is that, if their plane crashes, you will be legally dead--on the flip side, of course, your husband/wife/kids would be able to collect your life insurance early.

You may, however, earn all the credit card miles for the cost of anybody's tickets if you pay for them. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Marathon Man
Feb 19, 03, 2:26 am
oooh, an unethical one! right up my alley, eh? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Well, back in college (yep, that period again) I sent a friend on a trip to Cali using some NWA student vouchers I knew I would not get to use at the time. In those days, you could present a student ID to get on a plane! Seems today it is rather different for a variety of reasons I actually am glad to see in place.

Anyway, my friend traveled as me (with this pieced-together fake college ID with my name and his picture on it) because he could care less about miles and he got the free voucher from me, so it was good for his needs as well. He was visiting friends out there and needed to save cash, ya know?...

I got miles for the outbound trip. But then he came back many many months later on a completely different flight as a fully converted Born-Again Christian. Nothin' against anyone's choice of religion but he sure touted the book at us all way too much!

When I asked about the miles for my return trip, which was part of the deal (his taking the entire RT--and not bailing out on any portion except in emergency) he said it was wrong of me to even talk of such things.

Oh well. I got the first half at least; BOS-LAX = about 3k. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Times have changed (and he converted back anyway). So be it.

jonesing
Feb 20, 03, 10:22 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dave_261:
I believe I've read on flyertalk that people with the same name (i.e John Doe Jr. and Sr., or John Smith II and III) have found ways to do it. Especially if you're residing at the same residence (and not travelling together), not sure the airlines would have any way to stop this practice. </font>

Works with my father who flies maybe once a year. But when he does, his company sends him biz class on a US flagged carrier. Since we both only have our tix done with first initial only (although we do have the same name), there has never been a problem.

flyhawaii
Aug 24, 03, 4:37 am
Could I try earning AAdvantage miles when someone else flys on Japan Airlines? I plan to put my AAdvantage number (which I have gotten criedit for an Japan Airlines flight under my name) or my fathers AAdvantage number (who he has never earned miles on AAdvantage from Japan Airlines) for my grandmother who will fly Japan Airlines. My grandmother has a different last name from all of us. Would she have trouble flying back in a case the airlines notice it is not her account. She hardly flys so there is no reason to have an mileage account.
Plan B is sign her up to Japan Airlines Mileage Bank Account under the Family club which would allow us to combine her miles but since there are different last names, we may need to show documentation to JAL. The flight will happen in 3 weeks so there may not be enough time to sign her up so that is why we want to try to earn AAdvantage miles.

beergut
Aug 24, 03, 11:47 am
I have a Twin with the same initals as me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif, just got to pursuade him to use the same Airlines as me !

Nigel

kdp
Aug 24, 03, 7:18 pm
I bought a coast-to-coast ticket for a relative who never claims miles. She has the same last name as my son, and their first names only differ by an "a" at the end. I really wanted to claim the miles for him, but decided against it- against the rules and couldn't risk getting his account shut down.

quinella66
Aug 25, 03, 8:34 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by g_leyser:
Lets say I never fly NW (I don't). And lets say for work I have one random flight on NW for some odd reason because UA is sold out last minute, lets say MSP-ORD. I will never fly NW again, don't have a Worldperks account and will have no use for the few miles I earn.
Now lets say you are a regular NW flier.
Now lets say I'm a really nice guy and seeing that you could make use of the NW miles from my flight, I credit them to your account.
That's an example.
I think that situation could happen very often. I wish we could do it, but alas it can't be done. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif
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It would be nice for us, but that would defeat the purpose of the programs for the airlines. They do not want people pooling all of their miles to one account for an award - they would rather the miles sit orphaned (or expired) in the accounts of those who do not use them - or they would much rather you fly them and use the program to gain the miles so that they make more money.

Or perhaps this would open the door to the worst thing that could happen to the business travellers (and the airlines) - the company has all of its employees use a single frequent flyer number and the miles are kept for the company (or the owner).

[This message has been edited by quinella66 (edited 08-25-2003).]

Z-man
Aug 25, 03, 9:24 am
"Or perhaps this would open the door to the worst thing that could happen to the business travellers (and the airlines) - the company has all of its employees use a single frequent flyer number and the miles are kept for the company (or the owner)."

That would certainly change everyone's mind about pooling miles! That would be the worst day for all of us business travellers.

[This message has been edited by Z-man (edited 08-25-2003).]



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