SAS EuroBonus - Earning Points On Norwegian Domestic Routes




boonchoo
Jul 18, 02, 10:38 am
Ban on earning bonuspoints for flights on Norwegian Domestic routes from August 1, 2002 for flights operated by SAS, Braatens and Wideroe.


Austman
Jul 19, 02, 5:14 am
Is it ALL flights or only ones where there is competition?

Sweden, now Norway and who knows next?

Norway_Asia
Jul 19, 02, 7:03 am
It should be ALL flights.


boonchoo
Jul 19, 02, 7:15 am
The Norwegian antitrust authority´s most recent decision has further restricted options for earning miles on SAS Domestic flights in Norway. Effective August 1, 2002.
However this restriction does not apply to award flights: you can continue to redeem miles for flights on these routes.

Point_Chaser
Jul 19, 02, 7:42 am
Does this also mean connecting flights within Norway (i.e. an international flight with a domestic connecting flight)?
In Sweden, these flights still earn points as they are seen as a part of an international flight...

boonchoo
Jul 19, 02, 8:35 am
I called EuroBonus in Stockholm but they couldn´t give any answer.

Norway_Asia
Jul 19, 02, 9:50 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Point_Chaser:
Does this also mean connecting flights within Norway (i.e. an international flight with a domestic connecting flight)?
In Sweden, these flights still earn points as they are seen as a part of an international flight...</font>


I feel 99% sure that it will be on ALL flight segments starting and ending inside Norway.

I miss CDN
Jul 19, 02, 12:08 pm
A real pity http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif I am scheduled to fly LHR-ARN-OSL-TOS-OSL-LHR on SK early August. Should I expect no miles for OSL-TOS-OSL leg even though I am using AC FF program http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif


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The-Longhauler
Jul 19, 02, 2:12 pm
So for now Sweden and Norway are out ..

"New rules from October 27, 2002
The Swedish Market Court has ruled that effective October 27, 2001, SAS must revise the SAS EuroBonus program with regard to points earned on Swedish domestic routes where other airlines compete with SAS and Skyways.

The ruling stipulates that points earned on such routes may not be exchanged for bonus flights, or other bonus offers. However, they are still valid for upgrades to higher membership status in SAS EuroBonus.

At present, the ruling affects following routes
Stockholm - Gothenburg Stockholm - Malmö Stockholm - Luleå Stockholm - Trollhättan Stockholm - Visby Stockholm - Storuman Stockholm - Umeå, effective March 04, 2002 "


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So let's hope Denmark can stay earning miles for a little while ... I wonder how they expect SAS to compete with the big Euro-ailines with a strong Miles Program on their homemarkets ????

Point_Chaser
Jul 19, 02, 2:40 pm
I heard however that SAS was looking into starting a cooperation with Malmo Aviation with the reward programmes, so that SAS EB members could earn on Malmo Aviation's flights as well as well as SAS's flights on those routes served by those two (as the regulations stipulate that EB points cannot be earned where there are competing reward programmes). Anybody heard more about this? It was some time ago I read this...

kempis
Jul 19, 02, 2:56 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by I miss CDN:
A real pity http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif I am scheduled to fly LHR-ARN-OSL-TOS-OSL-LHR on SK early August. Should I expect no miles for OSL-TOS-OSL leg even though I am using AC FF program http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif


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https://www.aeroplan.com/en/collect/air_scandinavian_airlines.jsp

This is what AirCanadas Aeroplan page says
"Not eligible: Flights operated by SAS between Stockholm and Gothenberg, Luleå, or Malmo. Charter flights and code-share flights operated by any SAS code-share partner other than Star Alliance airlines."

Not a word about Norweigan domestic. They dont even list Umeå(UME) which is the same as LLA,ARN and GOT.

bjerregaard
Jul 19, 02, 3:40 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by I miss CDN:
A real pity http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif I am scheduled to fly LHR-ARN-OSL-TOS-OSL-LHR on SK early August. Should I expect no miles for OSL-TOS-OSL leg even though I am using AC FF program http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif


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I think the problem is that you can not earn miles from SAS Eurobonus but from Miles&Mores, AC eg. Members will leave EB instead of another Star FF-program. Would Germany or Canada do that against their international airline?

Norway_Asia
Jul 20, 02, 2:01 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by bjerregaard:
I think the problem is that you can not earn miles from SAS Eurobonus but from Miles&Mores, AC eg. Members will leave EB instead of another Star FF-program. Would Germany or Canada do that against their international airline?</font>

I am quite sure that you will NOT earn ANY mileage in ANY frequent flyer program on routes starting and ending in Norway.

That is the impression I have got.

Austman
Jul 20, 02, 2:19 am
And that's true in Sweden too. In Sweden, on routes where SAS has competition, no FF scheme can award points/miles for SAS flights.

boonchoo
Jul 20, 02, 9:08 am
If the day comes when we all can´t earn
any EuroBonus points on any domestic flight
in Scandinavia, the air-passangers will take most notice to the airfare, when they choose beetveen two airlines, i.e SAS or Ryan Air. I think the company with the cheapest airfares will be the big winner.
It will sure be a real price-war and I hope the winner will be the new SAS Air Company.

Austman
Jul 20, 02, 10:28 pm
In Sweden, I think one of the most unfair aspects of this whole thing is that while on routes where SAS has competition, no FF scheme can award points/miles for SAS flights, the same is not true for the competitor airline. The competition IS allowed to offer a FF scheme.

boonchoo
Jul 20, 02, 10:59 pm
Austman, If I understand you correct, SAS could stop flying i.e. the route ARN-OER. Start a new Low Price Airways. Create a new fantastic FFP only for the domestic market in Sweden/Denmark and make all of us happy again.

AHO
Jul 21, 02, 12:22 am
Qantas FFP says:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/terms#TOC_9_3_1

SAS: Discounted fares booked in R and N Class. All Norwegian domestic routes. The following three Swedish domestic routes: Stockholm - Gothenburg, Stockholm - Malmö and Stockholm - Ängelholm unless flown in conjunction with an international itinerary. Otherwise, Points can only be earned on flights operated by SAS with an 'SK' flight number within Scandinavia and between Scandinavia and Asia.

So, one may earn points on these domestic flights if he/she continues to fly to/from international destination. Anyway it seems so in Qantas FFP.

Austman
Jul 21, 02, 12:34 am
Yes, what AHO says is correct. But if you buy a separate domestic ticket in Sweden then the other rules apply. Most domestic travel is Sweden is not part of an an international itinerary. This is especially ture for Stockholm - Gothenburg and Stockholm - Malmö routes.

kempis
Jul 21, 02, 2:53 am
Has both AC and QF forgot about UME? It seems like if you are travelling that route often you could get miles/points from AC/QF since they have NOT this route excluded.

Point_Chaser
Jul 21, 02, 5:37 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AHO:
Qantas FFP says:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/terms#TOC_9_3_1

The following three Swedish domestic routes: Stockholm - Gothenburg, Stockholm - Malmö and Stockholm - Ängelholm

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This information must be really old, as IBA stopped flying AGH-BMA (Bromma, a part of STO) well over a year ago...

For the STO-UME flight question, I think that as long as the other FF programmes do not exclude it in their rules or have some clause about exclusion through regulation by authorities in their general terms of membership, I think that one could easily write a nice letter to AC, QF or whoever, and send the boarding passes and get the points. If they don't have it in their rules, then how can they exclude it?

Anybody willing to give it a go?

kempis
Jul 21, 02, 6:01 am
IBA?

Point_Chaser
Jul 21, 02, 3:16 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kempis:
IBA?</font>

International Business Air. I know, funny name for a company only flying between Helsingborg/Angelholm and Stockholm...



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