Alice11
Apr 27, 08, 3:10 pm
Does anyone know if the qualifying segments for elite categories could be flown on LA codeshare flights operated by partner, or only on flights operated by LAN?
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Other North & South America Frequent Flyer Programs - LAN LANPass: qualifying segments for elite categoriesView Full Version : LAN LANPass: qualifying segments for elite categories Alice11 Apr 27, 08, 3:10 pm Does anyone know if the qualifying segments for elite categories could be flown on LA codeshare flights operated by partner, or only on flights operated by LAN? Thank you! samftla Apr 28, 08, 11:47 am No code shares work as do most fare classes with any One World member. The only requirement is that you fly at least 4 segments with LAN in order to qualify for their elite levels. This is the link for what fare classes count for One World http://plane.lan.com/lanpass/acumule_kms/volando/cuanto_acumulo_ow-en-us.html Sam Alice11 Apr 28, 08, 12:25 pm Hello Sam, Not sure if I understood. For instance, is flight LA 5703 Madrid - Santiago de Chile operated by Iberia a 'qualifying segment'? Thank you samftla Apr 28, 08, 12:30 pm You will get the miles and the segment for elite status. Alice11 Apr 28, 08, 12:34 pm Thank you Sam ACflyerDE Apr 28, 08, 11:50 pm Hello Sam, Not sure if I understood. For instance, is flight LA 5703 Madrid - Santiago de Chile operated by Iberia a 'qualifying segment'? Thank you As samftla confirmed, definitely yes. Infact LANPASS works the same way as Qantas' program, the airline you book, codeshare or not, will be the one that posts to your account. So your flight to MAD will appear as LAN flight in your account, counting as LAN segment and all miles incl. COS bonus miles count toward status. If you hold status with LAN you will also receive the appropriate bonus miles. MarkXS Apr 29, 08, 1:12 pm I'm not sure if the OP's question has been understood and answered. LAN's program is a bit odd: as noted, it requires at least 4 segments on LAN, when qualifying by kilometers flown on oneworld airlines. However, when qualifying by segments, according to how I read their website, you have to fly the segments on LAN. From LAN's "how to qualify" page: http://plane.lan.com/promociones/data/todo_el_mundo/lanpass/ascenso_categoria-en-us.html Qualifying for Premium tarjeta You must fulfill one of these requirements between January 1 and December 31 of each year. * Fly 30 segments with LAN (with fares that allow for the earning of LANPASS kilometers). * Earn 40,000 LANPASS kilometers on flights with LAN or any oneworld member airline (with a minimum of four segments flown with LAN), and kilometer bonuses accumulated on LAN Business and First Class Emphasis added. Note the different definitions of qualifying flights for segment qualifying method versus for km qualification method. Going by the clear meaning of the words, if qualifying by segment, all 30 segments must be flown on LAN metal. The IB-operated flight will definitely earn RDkm and EQkm, but it might not earn any EQS. Now perhaps that's just a misstatement or poor translation into English, but I wouldn't count on segment credit for it. And in fact none of my AA flights ever show up in the segment counter of my LANPass account statement, though they do show up as qualifying Km. I'm not elite with LAN, but last year I flew 1 segment on LAN and 3 segments on AA. The kms posted for all 4 segments, but here's what my segment counter said: TOTAL SEGMENTS VALID FOR QUALIFYING: 1 Now I'm not sure what happens if you fly 40,000 km but don't do 4 segments on LAN itself (including LAN Peru, LAN Argentina, LAN Ecuador, LAN express). Rumor has it you do qualify on distance anyway. I think all of the oneworld programs have this "4 segments on the home team" requirement but somewhere here on FT I once read that only BA enforces it. However if you fly under 40K km but do 30 segments on ow, with less than 4 on LAN, I'm guessing you don't make elite at all. Alice11 Apr 29, 08, 2:33 pm Hello, Thanks for your help. I wonder whether it could be better to use AAdvantage or Qantas FF instead of LanPass as a FF program for Oneworld flights, in order to maximise benefits. I'm not used to fly on a specific Oneworld airline, and I use this alliance for long-haul flights + regional/domestic flights, eg flying Cathay from Italy to Australia, then Qantas, or flying LAN in South America. Indeed, a few segments, a number of miles per segment, no primary arline. I've been earning LANPass kms but I'm not sure if I'm maximising benefits, especially those related to elite categories. Does anyone would suggest AAdvantage or Qantas FF? ACflyerDE Apr 29, 08, 2:48 pm Hello, Thanks for your help. I wonder whether it could be better to use AAdvantage or Qantas FF instead of LanPass as a FF program for Oneworld flights, in order to maximise benefits. I'm not used to fly on a specific Oneworld airline, and I use this alliance for long-haul flights + regional/domestic flights, eg flying Cathay from Italy to Australia, then Qantas, or flying LAN in South America. Indeed, a few segments, a number of miles per segment, no primary arline. I've been earning LANPass kms but I'm not sure if I'm maximising benefits, especially those related to elite categories. Does anyone would suggest AAdvantage or Qantas FF? I would suggest using Qantas FFP instead of LAN (or AA), particularly if you can attain status with them. With LAN, only their own flights and AA flights earn status bonus miles whereas with QF at least QF, AA and BA flights earn bonus miles, too. If you fly First or Business class, all COS bonus miles count towards status with QF compared to only LAN flights in the LAN program. If you fly domestic in the US and have OW Sapphire status, the QF card gets you in the lounge but AA's program does not. ACflyerDE Apr 29, 08, 3:15 pm The IB-operated flight will definitely earn RDkm and EQkm, but it might not earn any EQS. Now perhaps that's just a misstatement or poor translation into English, but I wouldn't count on segment credit for it. And in fact none of my AA flights ever show up in the segment counter of my LANPass account statement, though they do show up as qualifying Km. I'm not elite with LAN, but last year I flew 1 segment on LAN and 3 segments on AA. The kms posted for all 4 segments, but here's what my segment counter said: TOTAL SEGMENTS VALID FOR QUALIFYING: 1 I just checked the LAN account of a colleague of mine to verify: He has 7 EQS so far for this year and I know for sure that he has flown 4 segments on LAN and 3 segments on IB flights but booked with LA flight number, all in business class. The IB flights posted to his account as LAN flights (rather than IB flights), the segments apparantly count for status and the COS appear in the "Bonuses for LAN cabin class" section of the website, plus he earned the bonus miles for his Premium Silver status for all these flights which he usually would not for the IB flights. However, all the other AA, BA, IB and QF flights he has taken so far match your experience, they earn regular RDKm and EQKm but bo not count as EQS and any COS bonus does not count towards status. Unfortunately this also applies to the LA 800 SYD-SCL flight he booked as QF 321 instead (no availability in D on the LAN flight number) - this flight posted as QF flight, so he missed out on EQS, COS status miles and Premium Silver bonus miles. Therefore one can only strongly recommend to book OW flights with LAN flight number as much as possible to maximise the benefits of LANPASS. |