Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - Do asiamiles use different fare bucket to other OW partners
tinkybelle
Apr 24, 08, 4:44 pm
Im trying to get one F or J seat plus one Y mel or syd to HKG late june.
I know the olympics Are on:( and I know world youth day is in syd on 15th july..:mad:
QFF has nothing.
Is there any way I will get the seats if someone has CX points?
I think they come from the same bucket, but with asiamiles, you can obviously waitlist for the seats to free up, whereas with other programs, you will need to keep checking back...
TerryK
Apr 24, 08, 4:57 pm
Maybe! :p
CX miles receive more allocation than partner miles. That doesn't mean it is always available, just more availabilities compared to others.@:-)
TerryK
Apr 24, 08, 4:59 pm
I think they come from the same bucket, but with asiamiles, you can obviously waitlist for the seats to free up, whereas with other programs, you will need to keep checking back...
They are from different buckets even though they all book into U. I am currently looking for an award where CX website has been showing availability for the past two weeks, yet BA has shown none available. I have an excess of BA miles and still waiting to see if it may become available using BA miles. :(
chuck1
Apr 28, 08, 5:26 pm
I've seen CX F availability on their long haul flights numerous using Asia Miles but none when I wanted to use my AA miles on the same flight.
cxfan1960
Apr 28, 08, 5:59 pm
I've seen CX F availability on their long haul flights numerous using Asia Miles but none when I wanted to use my AA miles on the same flight.
As expected. Let's calculate the number of trips needed to redeem a JFK-HKG round trip F award:
* AA PLT/EXP: 135K miles - requires 4.5 round trips on Y (including bonus miles) between JFK-HKG.
* CX any member: 220K miles - requires 14 round trips on Y between JFK-HKG.
G-man82
Apr 28, 08, 6:37 pm
As expected. Let's calculate the number of trips needed to redeem a JFK-HKG round trip F award:
* AA PLT/EXP: 135K miles - requires 4.5 round trips on Y (including bonus miles) between JFK-HKG.
* CX any member: 220K miles - requires 14 round trips on Y between JFK-HKG.
Good point. AA Miles are very devalued compared to CX Miles. Although, I really would like to see some bonuses based on tier status. Not the mega bonuses like AA, but maybe something like 10% for Golds, 15% for diamonds? I think that would be modest enough to still maintain CX's miles' value.
QRC3288
Apr 28, 08, 7:03 pm
As expected. Let's calculate the number of trips needed to redeem a JFK-HKG round trip F award:
* AA PLT/EXP: 135K miles - requires 4.5 round trips on Y (including bonus miles) between JFK-HKG.
* CX any member: 220K miles - requires 14 round trips on Y between JFK-HKG.
Ahh wow that makes it painful to see. And make that for APPLICABLE fare classes only. So not even all Y trips are valid.
sorry, i am a bit confused, what is cx's milage program asia miles or marco polo. Are they 2 different programs? does one have better availability?
Good point. AA Miles are very devalued compared to CX Miles. Although, I really would like to see some bonuses based on tier status. Not the mega bonuses like AA, but maybe something like 10% for Golds, 15% for diamonds? I think that would be modest enough to still maintain CX's miles' value.
yes, this would be good. or, seeing quite some programs have incentives to very frequent flyers to keep crediting to their programs even after reaching enough for top level...e.g. for UA/AA top level is 100k (except UGS which is more revenue-based), but you reach 125k, you get something additional, 150k, even something more, etc. Similarly for BD, after you requalify for top level, all those in excess (in status miles) would get converted to award miles as well (i.e. 100% bonus award miles for everything in excess) - at least that's my high-level understanding.
would be good to see CX doing something like this for DM - last membership year I flew like 300k+ Club miles but ended up not crediting much to CX beyond 120k because I'd rather get 100% bonus with AA, or not to credit at all yet...
cxfan1960
Apr 28, 08, 9:17 pm
sorry, i am a bit confused, what is cx's milage program asia miles or marco polo. Are they 2 different programs? does one have better availability?
Asia Miles is the mileage programme for award redemption. MPC is the loyalty programme with the tier levels - MPC Silver = OW Ruby; MPC Gold = OW Sapphire; MPC Diamond = OW Emerald.
When you fly on OW airlines on a qualifying booking class, you accrue mileage on Asia Miles, and the miles you picked up can also be used for tier qualification in MPC.
If you fly others such as Air China on a qualifying booking class, you accrue Asia Miles but the miles will not be counted towards MPC tier qualification.