Avis - NetJet code K444404 - Problems Using?

Anyone ever had experience/issues using this code? Giving me an awesome rate in Munich at the end of the month and really don't want a big hassle as I am not traveling alone. Thanks!

I have used this code several times in Italy, never had a problem with it. Consistently given 40% discount. However you should note that if you have an accident there is a huge excess to pay with this code so you need to use a credit card which covers your excess or buy a separate insurance which covers it. I use insurance4carhire.

I have used this code many times in the past year or so and it has always given me 40% discount with no questions asked in Italy. You must be aware though that there is a huge excess on this code, so you should cover yourself with extra insurance; I use insurance4carhire which is very cheap and they do pay up in the event of trouble, as my son found out the very first time he used them!

I've never been asked for ID with this rate, but I'm actually eligible to use it. Note that it generally allows only 100 miles a day rather than unlimited miles.

I have used this code many times in the past with no problems. Avis does not require an id for it. Lately, however, it has not given me any discount at all, or at least none to speak of, for rentals outside of the US. Although it does not come up as invalid, I suspect that Avis must have assigned Netjets a new awd.

I've never been asked for ID with this rate, but I'm actually eligible to use it. Note that it generally allows only 100 miles a day rather than unlimited miles.

Apparently it allows unlimited kilometers in Europe. I tried it in Switzerland - every single reservation shows unlimited kilometers.

I have used this code many times in the past with no problems. Avis does not require an id for it. Lately, however, it has not given me any discount at all, or at least none to speak of, for rentals outside of the US. Although it does not come up as invalid, I suspect that Avis must have assigned Netjets a new awd.

Still the best rate I can find in Europe.

I used this code 3 weeks ago in Munich (Hauptbahnhof). No questions, no problems.

I also got unlimited kilometers.

I have used this code many times in the past with no problems. Avis does not require an id for it. Lately, however, it has not given me any discount at all, or at least none to speak of, for rentals outside of the US. Although it does not come up as invalid, I suspect that Avis must have assigned Netjets a new awd.

My apologies for my imprecise posting: the Netjets awd got me no discount at all in Australia and was not among the best codes in other locations. I am still seeking a good code for Australia. The one I had got a 20% discount but is now coming up as invalid.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9743740&postcount=1188

You must be aware though that there is a huge excess on this code ...How huge is huge?

What exactly is an excess? Is it like a deductible? I tried this code on the website for a rental in Italy and the price dropped by a huge amount.

What exactly is an excess? Is it like a deductible? I tried this code on the website for a rental in Italy and the price dropped by a huge amount.

Yes

I've been reading through the forums and with the exception of the one guy who picked up in Zurich (Avis' city office) and another person who picked up in Athens (not sure where), has anyone had recent (2009) success using the K444404 code in Europe? Specifically Austria? I have a reservation for the end of this month and am traveling with the wife and 6 month old. :confused:

I also found G298100 which offers equally good rates, only problem is my reservation is booked for this small Austrian airport and the model I have reserved is now sold out and rates have gone up considerably since I booked nearly 2 months go. So I am hesitant to call and switch the code if K444404 should not be used.

I have a back-up reservation, but again, much more expensive and not the model I requested.

Hi, I'm getting good rates with K444404 for a 10 day rental in Italy, Rome.

Has anyone used this code in Italy recently (in the last couple of months?) and verified that they do not need ID?

CDW is included in the online quote. Does anyone know the excess for using this code? Am thinking of buying coverage from http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ to cover the excess and want to be sure its enough. I understand that even buying Super CDW does not cover acts of vandalism or windscreen damage to the car, but http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ should cover that?

Any input valued! Thanks!!

thanks for posting the k444 code as the one I have always used for italy(a153700) does not seem to give a good discount now? I have noticed that car hire prices have shot up though as I used to pay £250 for 2 weeks for a focus wagon and now it's £440 with the k444 code and £633 with no code so still a decent saving but expensive compared to what it used to be.

I was hassled once in Munich airport over this code. Apparently the desk frau decided that I needed a Chairman card (NetJets or Avis Chairman's, I couldn't tell since they're both called Chairman). After arguing, I realized that using my company AWD was 8 euro more, so I just gave up. I think she was confused over the Chairman terminology.

I'm going to make a reservation with this and give it a go. It'll be at a downtown location as the code didn't waive airport location surcharge and that essentially wipes out the difference. If they give me any problems, I'll ask them to change it to the AAdvantage code which is still pretty decent.

I've been reading through the forums and with the exception of the one guy who picked up in Zurich (Avis' city office) and another person who picked up in Athens (not sure where), has anyone had recent (2009) success using the K444404 code in Europe? Specifically Austria? I have a reservation for the end of this month and am traveling with the wife and 6 month old. :confused:

I also found G298100 which offers equally good rates, only problem is my reservation is booked for this small Austrian airport and the model I have reserved is now sold out and rates have gone up considerably since I booked nearly 2 months go. So I am hesitant to call and switch the code if K444404 should not be used.

I have a back-up reservation, but again, much more expensive and not the model I requested.

Hi, I'm getting good rates with K444404 for a 10 day rental in Italy, Rome.

Has anyone used this code in Italy recently (in the last couple of months?) and verified that they do not need ID?

CDW is included in the online quote. Does anyone know the excess for using this code? Am thinking of buying coverage from http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ to cover the excess and want to be sure its enough. I understand that even buying Super CDW does not cover acts of vandalism or windscreen damage to the car, but http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ should cover that?

Any input valued! Thanks!!

I was hassled once in Munich airport over this code. Apparently the desk frau decided that I needed a Chairman card (NetJets or Avis Chairman's, I couldn't tell since they're both called Chairman). After arguing, I realized that using my company AWD was 8 euro more, so I just gave up. I think she was confused over the Chairman terminology.

Hi all, so I took the risk and used the K444404 code along with my AVIS Preferred Services card in Austria in May/Jun 2009 and had no trouble whatsoever. :D Given how small this airport location is, the AVIS Preferred Services card did not save me much time, but I was pleased to know that I was not questioned (or chastised) for using this code. My next rental in Europe will be in Munich and I will try to do it with my AVIS Preferred Service card which means I should get to skip the counter and go straight to my car. I'll have a back up reservation with Sixt or Hertz just in case!;)

I will be using this code soon in Italy. Anyone else have reports of problems using it, or should I just go for it?

How did the usage in italy go? This code saves almost $100 on a one month rental in Belgium and I was thinking of using it.

Bump to see if anyone has used this lately. I'd like to use for a month rental in Antwerp. Best rate I could find by about $100.

One more bump. Going to pick up the care tomorrow reserved under K444404 and wondering if anyone has had any recent experience.

It's worked fine for me, but I'm a CHM.

Thanks for the update.

I picked up the car. Avis.com wouldn't give me the lowest rate when I was logged into my account using this code, so I created the reservation w/o account information (weird, but there was about a $75 difference). Turns out there wasn't a preferred desk anyways, and no questions were asked about the AWD when I picked up the car.

Just used this code at Naples airport(Italy) for a rental from 8th-22nd July. No questions asked and unlimited mileage. Was lucky to be given a brand new Ford Focus estate with 9km on the clock:)

My mother has also had problems using the Netjets code at ZRH. The manager told her that only an Avis employee code could give her such a good deal! :confused:
When I book a car for her nowadays, I find B149870 gets the second-best rate and she's never been hassled using it. Still, it's a shame to have that great code go unused! :D

Would anyone know how one could "prove" the code isn't an employee code. Is there some sort of Netjets literature she could bring to airport with her?

I have used this code several times in Italy, never had a problem with it. Consistently given 40% discount. However you should note that if you have an accident there is a huge excess to pay with this code so you need to use a credit card which covers your excess or buy a separate insurance which covers it. I use insurance4carhire.

I have used this code many times in the past year or so and it has always given me 40% discount with no questions asked in Italy. You must be aware though that there is a huge excess on this code, so you should cover yourself with extra insurance; I use insurance4carhire which is very cheap and they do pay up in the event of trouble, as my son found out the very first time he used them!

Hi, I'm getting good rates with K444404 for a 10 day rental in Italy, Rome.

Has anyone used this code in Italy recently (in the last couple of months?) and verified that they do not need ID?

CDW is included in the online quote. Does anyone know the excess for using this code? Am thinking of buying coverage from http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ to cover the excess and want to be sure its enough. I understand that even buying Super CDW does not cover acts of vandalism or windscreen damage to the car, but http://www.insurance4carhire.com/ should cover that?

Any input valued! Thanks!!

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Folks, I've got an upcoming reservation with K444404 in ZRH in summer 2010. Saving a couple hundred bucks...

Can you all provide any updates on successes/failures of this code?

Thank you!
-G

Folks, I've got an upcoming reservation with K444404 in ZRH in summer 2010. Saving a couple hundred bucks...

Can you all provide any updates on successes/failures of this code?

Thank you!
-G

I was failed only yesterday afternoon.
Although I'm very friendly with the branch manager, he said that if he gives it to me, he'll receive a phone call the next day from the head office about it.

I was failed only yesterday afternoon.
Although I'm very friendly with the branch manager, he said that if he gives it to me, he'll receive a phone call the next day from the head office about it.

That's bad news :(. ELAL, where was this? at ZRH?

So, it seems that ZRH is the only location that gives problems with this code?

That's bad news :(. ELAL, where was this? at ZRH?

No at Antwerp

I know many people used the code all the time without problem

I got busted in Turks and Caicos. It worked last year, but this year they said NO WAY! They said they had a list of people allowed to use this AWD and I was NOT on it. So I got charged full rate for the seven days I was there. Oh well, I made out last year so I guess it all evens out. Managers are aware of this code, and not letting people use it. What can I use now??? Looks like the party might be over.

I got busted in Turks and Caicos. It worked last year, but this year they said NO WAY! They said they had a list of people allowed to use this AWD and I was NOT on it. So I got charged full rate for the seven days I was there. Oh well, I made out last year so I guess it all evens out. Managers are aware of this code, and not letting people use it. What can I use now??? Looks like the party might be over.

It sounds like you accepted defeat too readily and happily paid way too much. You had a reservation at a certain price and should have demanded written proof from them that you could not use that code. What right do they have to refuse your reservation unless they can present something to you that indicates why you aren't eligible for the rate. Next they will be able to refuse any discount code by just saying that they won't honor your reservation in order to make you pay full rate.

This is BS and a clear example of why you should always have a backup res at another company. Nothing feels worse than being at their mercy and nothing feels better than telling them to shove their car up their as$ and walking out when they try to screw you.

It sounds like you accepted defeat too readily and happily paid way too much. You had a reservation at a certain price and should have demanded written proof from them that you could not use that code. What right do they have to refuse your reservation unless they can present something to you that indicates why you aren't eligible for the rate. Next they will be able to refuse any discount code by just saying that they won't honor your reservation in order to make you pay full rate.

This is BS and a clear example of why you should always have a backup res at another company. Nothing feels worse than being at their mercy and nothing feels better than telling them to shove their car up their as$ and walking out when they try to screw you.

Proof of eligibility is on the user of the code, not the rental agency, and second, a back-up reservation isn't needed when you use VALID codes that your are ELIGIBLE for.

K444404 seems not to work in Chile or Ecuador. At time of reservation it provides a good discount, but the reservation appears at the rental counter with no price at all. Even with a print out in hand, the K444404 rate was not accepted, although other discounts were offered on the spot. [Just a hint: in Chile, Alamo is very reasonable; in Ecuador, most hotels have cars with drivers that are far cheaper and more convenient than a rental car]

I just spoke with someone very high up in Avis, and officially, K444404 has been red flagged for anyone who uses it. If the rental locations miss that AWD at time of rental, then both the renting location AND the renting customer, no matter what the customer's status is, will get a call from Avis Corporate security and may be pursued for fraud.

The reason for the red flagging is that this code has been used and abused by people who do not have the right to use it, and it is no longer an active AWD number for rentals. It is now only for Chairman's Club qualifications, and she went on to say that this number has been posted too many times in FlyerTalk, and this contributed to the abuse.

So now the mystery is cleared up, so a word to the wise......

Cool thanks for the update bud.

That is a big part of what FT is about, sharing information and helping each other, right?

For sure it's YMMV. I just used again yesterday without issues.

I just spoke with someone very high up in Avis, and officially, K444404 has been red flagged for anyone who uses it. If the rental locations miss that AWD at time of rental, then both the renting location AND the renting customer, no matter what the customer's status is, will get a call from Avis Corporate security and may be pursued for fraud.

So now the mystery is cleared up, so a word to the wise......

For sure it's YMMV. I just used again yesterday without issues.

You might notice that the information from an Avis higher up that I received did not say it was impossible to use it, but that both the customer and the renting location will get a call from Avis Corporate security (presumeably after the rental is complete). So, please advise us, if/when you get a call from Avis Corporate Security regarding this rental and your use of the code.

This code is no longer valid in Turks and Caicos. Seems that they've locked it down and it is automatically flagged when people book with it. Guess I'll be using the local company, Gracy Bay Car Rentals when I'm there!

Take a look at posting #39 on this thread for more info about why K444404 is not working in certain locations and should not be used in other locations.

I used it Sweden and Denmark with no problems

I used it Sweden and Denmark with no problems

Sweden and Denmark are not Avis corporate, which may be the reason why you had no trouble using a code that is even NetJet members (like I am) have been advised not to use any more!

I am thinking of using this code at LHR. Any experience?

Do the following posts, from earlier in this thread, answer your questions?

I just spoke with someone very high up in Avis, and officially, K444404 has been red flagged for anyone who uses it. If the rental locations miss that AWD at time of rental, then both the renting location AND the renting customer, no matter what the customer's status is, will get a call from Avis Corporate security and may be pursued for fraud.

The reason for the red flagging is that this code has been used and abused by people who do not have the right to use it, and it is no longer an active AWD number for rentals. It is now only for Chairman's Club qualifications, and she went on to say that this number has been posted too many times in FlyerTalk, and this contributed to the abuse.

So now the mystery is cleared up, so a word to the wise......

For sure it's YMMV. I just used again yesterday without issues.

You might notice that the information from an Avis higher up that I received did not say it was impossible to use it, but that both the customer and the renting location will get a call from Avis Corporate security (presumeably after the rental is complete). So, please advise us, if/when you get a call from Avis Corporate Security regarding this rental and your use of the code.

I used it 2 weeks ago at a location I frequent and have never had an issue. Either it isn't flagged or security isn't following up.

I used it 2 weeks ago at a location I frequent and have never had an issue. Either it isn't flagged or security isn't following up.

Good to know that someone can still use it. As a NetJets Chairman's Club member, I asked to use that code on one of my own rentals, and was told that it was no longer available, even though it is a NetJets AWD specifically for Chairman's Club members, which is what I am. I guess the Avis computer system is like swiss cheese!

Good to know that someone can still use it. As a NetJets Chairman's Club member, I asked to use that code on one of my own rentals, and was told that it was no longer available, even though it is a NetJets AWD specifically for Chairman's Club members, which is what I am. I guess the Avis computer system is like swiss cheese!

I don't understand why they don't just invalidate it on their website booking system - should be easy I think?

I don't understand why they don't get rid of it either. As a NetJets nominee, they have already given me the replacement AWD number, which is now listed on my account. However, when I was checking different AWD numbers that I have to see which would give me the better rate on a recent reservation, I was told that K444404 was being used fraudulently by too many people who were not entitled, and if I tried to use it, then I would (or may) get a call from Avis Corporate Security, and the renting location might also get a call, and that my rental could be subject to being rebilled at an adjusted rate. This was confirmed on a follow up call that I made to the Chairman's department (not reservations, but the department that handles Chairman's memberships), who advised the same and told me not to try to use that number anymore.n The whole scenario makes no sense.

I used it 2 weeks ago at a location I frequent and have never had an issue. Either it isn't flagged or security isn't following up.

I use it all the time. No problem what so ever. Avis is just trying to scare people to not getting discount. Remember some guy from Avis trying to sue/charge people on FT using the discount codes? I know few people even post their code like C356672 to get more discount and kick backs.

I don't understand why they don't get rid of it either. As a NetJets nominee, they have already given me the replacement AWD number, which is now listed on my account. However, when I was checking different AWD numbers that I have to see which would give me the better rate on a recent reservation, I was told that K444404 was being used fraudulently by too many people who were not entitled, and if I tried to use it, then I would (or may) get a call from Avis Corporate Security, and the renting location might also get a call, and that my rental could be subject to being rebilled at an adjusted rate. This was confirmed on a follow up call that I made to the Chairman's department (not reservations, but the department that handles Chairman's memberships), who advised the same and told me not to try to use that number anymore.n The whole scenario makes no sense.

The scenario makes sense if you don't assume that everything that has been posted on this thread is true.

The scenario makes sense if you don't assume that everything that has been posted on this thread is true.

No, the scenario makes no sense because I was told not to use it by two different departments at Avis! What makes no sense is, why Avis does not cancel that AWD number!

I got busted in Turks and Caicos, had to pay full price for rental. They noticed right away and asked for proof of Netjets, they also had a list of customers who were eligible for the discount. I complained and said my company booked it for me and I was gonna sue and blah blah blah.....going to take my business elsewhere....blah blah blah..... They were all excited they finally bagged a Netjet cheat like me. They were laughing and I finally had to laugh with them. I told them I got away with it in St Lucia a year earlier and we all laughed again. Guess it all evens out in the end. Heading to Antigua in Feb 2011, think I will use it again, as Avis website is letting me input again. I even got a letter from Avis about the Turks incident, they wanted me to prove I was a Netjetter. Guess I'll book Avis and have a back up just in case.

I got busted in Turks and Caicos, had to pay full price for rental. They noticed right away and asked for proof of Netjets, they also had a list of customers who were eligible for the discount. I complained and said my company booked it for me and I was gonna sue and blah blah blah.....going to take my business elsewhere....blah blah blah..... They were all excited they finally bagged a Netjet cheat like me. They were laughing and I finally had to laugh with them. I told them I got away with it in St Lucia a year earlier and we all laughed again. Guess it all evens out in the end. Heading to Antigua in Feb 2011, think I will use it again, as Avis website is letting me input again. I even got a letter from Avis about the Turks incident, they wanted me to prove I was a Netjetter. Guess I'll book Avis and have a back up just in case.

If you were a Chairman's Club member, I doubt you would have had any problem, because NetJets sponsors their users for CC.

Just used the code again and got a great discount for vacation. Hope I don't get popped at the counter, I'll just send in the wife.

Guess I shouldn't even try to use this code in Turks and Caicos, huh? Argh...can't find any deals there!

just made a res with this for Milan was by far cheaper than any of the other 100 awd's I tried. Avis says they will charge underage fee of 13.50 a day which is still better than some other rates. does anyone have any tips for renting underage (22) in Europe.

In my case K444404 no longer seems to work - it always tells me no cars available, though with different AWDs the cars are available...

Any insights?

In my case K444404 no longer seems to work - it always tells me no cars available, though with different AWDs the cars are available...

Any insights?

Are you eligible for the NetJet AWD? If so, call them and get the correct/new AWD.