Trip Reports - SFO-JFK and back in UA p.s. C with No PICS!




rosscali
Mar 29, 08, 11:34 am
READ AND USE YOUR MIND TO FORM THE PICTURES if you will..

Waiting in the hills of Berkeley for the Bayporter van to arrive, a few minutes before the scheduled pick-up time I take myself and my suitcase out to the street, put on my hat and coat, and wait in the crisp spring air. There is plenty to look at, as I grew up here, and recently moved home. Reflection of my youth and walking to the bus to go to 4th grade is everywhere, as well as the more current settling of the earth around the house changing the sidewalks and retaining walls of everyone’s front yards. I grew up in this beautiful place, and my mother had always intended me to stay, so I came back and am doing that, and it feels nice, at least when I’m not paying bills.

At 7:32AM, I feel like calling Bayporter. They’re very good about picking you up, but maybe I should call to check. Then the van appears, and the driver gets out and thanks me for waiting outside. Inside the van I see why. A well dressed woman sits in the front row of the van, 50ish, celebrating her grey hair and not coloring it, wearing glasses, with a two 2-piece tweed suit on, and immediately asks me what time my flight is.

“9:30AM,” I reply
“How long will this take us?” She asks nervously.
“Oh, under an hour,” adding more minutes than I think it will take as it is the morning.
“An Hour! But I have a flight at 9:30AM!” (So do I but I don’t think she head that )
“Well, this is rush hour, but they always get us there efficiently.”
“We would be on the way already if we didn’t have to pick YOU up!”
:eek:

As the van driver starts down the street, he calls in his passenger count to his dispatcher: “2, to SFO.” He would rather have 10 people I am sure, and I gather this lady has not seen what it could be like. She asks him what time he thinks we will get to the airport, and the driver replies 8:15AM. We speed down the hill and I am airborne briefly as I bounce off the seat about 4 times on the way to the Eastshore Freeway. Traffic is surprisingly light on the freeway but the woman leers steadfastly ahead as if we have yet to reach hyperspace. If my ... in the air a few minutes before was any indication, I think we’re going about as fast as we should be going.

We fly through the toll plaza and I wonder if everyone is on spring break. They must be talking this up on the morning news shows as a very light day going over the bridge.

At 8:00AM we are near what used to be called Candlestick Park, but its name has changed so many times I don’t bother to know what its called now. The lady with the 9:30AM flight removes her boarding pass from her purse. United flight 8 to JFK – same as me. United Business, also same as me. Oh No!, what if she is sitting next to me? I really hope we make it and I really think we will with 1:25 to spare before the departure of this domestic flight, and I hope this woman never goes to Ulan Batar, because she’ll never make it there. While I’m listening to my favorite songs OVER and OVER again on my iPod, I look for signs of relaxation in my fellow passenger’s face, but there is none. Living in Hawaii for 9 years taught me a lot about trying to relax and possibly live a few more years. You can’t drive fast there, and people work and accomplish things as they do everywhere else but at a different pace than on the mainland. Accepting it, versus fighting it, is the key.

I feel like I shouldn’t be going on this trip, so when the Bayporter Van arrives and I am standing out there in front of my house, I decide that it is OK to go for some reason. My mobile phone is quiet as it normally is. I have a plan to reunite with friends and go to this party I always go to at this time of year in New York, but my sister is very ill and is in the hospital, and for the past three nights I have been there, after work, with her, talking to her, talking about what lay ahead, and it was rather heartbreaking. She was always telling us for the past five months that she is kicking this disease but 72 hours before now she told me she just wants to buy whatever time she can; she has accepted something and it is a bit of a relief, but also so very sad. We lost our mother close to 2 years before and now this. While a weekend trip sounds like nothing to most FlyerTalkers, watching your older sister in the throws of stage IV cancer and all the horribleness that comes with it is truly heart wrenching. I also used online check in for this flight, as my traveling companion in the van did, but only a few minutes before the pick-up, after the final call to Alta Bates Hospital oncology unit to see how my sister’s night went. The nurses all know me; it’s like the lady at the Alaska Airlines Board Room who knows everybody, except I often wonder if this is a place where I really want to be a VIP. What is more poignant is that when I was 13 and 14, on vacation from boarding school, I was a volunteer in that place, for over 300 hours, even playing Santa Claus one year for the cancer patients left in the hospital for December 25th. Going back there invokes memories, as does flying on United because I used to be a part of that organization too. My sister got out about 3 days before Christmas 2007, but not everyone does. Comparing this to what time we will arrive in San Francisco Airport causes me to smile, and sometimes cry. We are all fragile beings in this world with finite deadlines, we should all hug each other because we are here but we don’t, because we never think about the alternative.

The Bayporter pulls to the end of the United area, which is a walk from the Premier “Lobby” they are always talking about in e-mails. I walk back there and at the front of the Business class line an agent smiles at me and calls me over to the First Class check-in. I just want to check my bag. In 30 seconds I am on my way to security, and there is no line. Another light travel day? I just don’t understand.

When I checked in this morning I looked at the seat chart. It is not a 757 in the p.s. configuration but a 767-300 3-class configuration, the same as what got me to Buenos Aires and back two weeks before. My seat, 6B, is still an aisle on that place in the second row, but I see some empty seats. I am sure that will change, but I print the boarding pass and don’t change anything.

UNITED 8C 28MAR SFO JFK 6B (767-300 3 class configuration) 932A 558P

After a quick check-in I proceed through security and to the Red Carpet Room. It is also not a zoo. I have some coffee and a banana, and look around the place. A lot of people have come in from Asia and are pretty wiped out.

At 9:00AM I assemble myself and go to the gate. Boarding is in full swing. It is a 767 as the seat chart indicated earlier. I get on the plane and sit down in 6B. It is one of those auto reclining seats, waiting to be written up for repair downline. I feel myself slide back shortly after I sit down. I put the seat back in its upright position and I am reclining again. The gentlemen next to me, a 1K, has been waiting for a while to have someone hang his jacket. The lone flight attendant in business seems to notice others but not us. I have a jacket I can put anywhere and last summer some flight attendant took it and put it in some closet and I waited until most of the people got off that 767-300 2-class configuration and then found her discussing her 401(k) with her flying partner in economy and then she realized that YES she did put my jacket somewhere and then she found it. I hope her 401(k) is kicking bootie right now in the stock market, but I don’t give my coat to the flight attendants any more, and yes I was one of them for 13 years.

When I worked for United from 1983-2001, the New York flight attendant base was a special place I always thought. They loved New York, most of them lived there, and they could handle the New York clientele, and some of the things that clientele did and said really surprised me. I can remember the guy on the flight from Chicago to LaGuardia putting his bag under the seat behind him so as not to obstruct his own legroom. Of course the passenger behind him complained, and they got into a fight during boarding. So I am this 21 year old flight attendant, wondering how best to stop this negative interference to boarding, and this New York based flight attendant with his jet-black eye-liner walks up and whispers to me: “I’ll handle this…” and then she starts yelling at both of them, really loud, and they both calm down, and the luggage is removed and put in the overhead bin. What a concept. Then we take off on our way to LaGuardia and we serve a sandwich and hot soup in a mug, and it has the United logo and the Big Apple on it. No where else did they board more food a tthe time than to and from New York, and during the whole flight everyone is complaining about how bad United is, but we are giving them more service than any other flight. Days on a flight leaving early in the morning from Omaha, three different Nebraska family matriarchs (mothers) board the flight, each with 2 dozen home baked cookies for the crew; they all asked us if we had eaten yet that morning. On that 2 hour flight, the passengers got a cup of coffee and a United napkin. The incongruity baffles me. We weren’t supposed to eat anything the passengers gave us, because in the 70ies when the upper deck of the 747-100 was a lounge, a passenger gave a flight attendant a cookie laced with PCP and she was in a coma for 4 days. He wanted to have sex with her, but she almost died instead. When I was 21 and had no money, I ate those cookies those ladies from Omaha brought, because leftover rolls from first class dipped in salad dressing gets old, quick. Yeah, they have crew meals on International flights but not on domestic.

According to the few people I stay in contact with at United I understand that those in the New York base now have no International flying, but only these trans-con p.s. trips. So, the New York-based flight attendants used to fly to London, Tokyo, and beyond but now it is only San Francisco and Los Angeles, with remnants of the service they did to those International destinations. Still they are all there, but I don’t know how happy they are to be on this 767. The plane is not full. In fact, 5CD in the first row are empty when the door shuts. Due to my reclining dilemma, I move to 5C once the seat belt sign goes off in flight. How long had it been since I’ve had an empty seat next to me?

My traveling companion from the Bayporter is a few rows back; she is trying to sleep after eating her fruit plate. The menu is impressive for domestic. They are still peddling bellinis, and have three choices for breakfast, quiche, French toast and a fruit plate. Gustavo, working in the galley, comes to take our orders. He has that concerned look I did when I was doing the same thing 10 years before, worrying that everyone will get their choice. He says “welcome aboard” to each passenger, which I never did because the entrée ordering thing was such a big deal to me; I was too preoccupied to realize we were on a flight until we took off. With age comes the realization that the meal they serve on the airplane will probably not be the last one you eat. So if you don’t get your choice try something new, but then my sister has cancer so I’ve seen the grim reaper taking his position on the other side, and feel lucky to be on this side, if you know what I mean.

After take-off the crew comes around with drinks. I have the Chandon Blanc de Noirs sparkling wine. So, if you have visited the house of Krug Champagne in Reims, twice, like I had, and spoken to Mme. Catherine Seydoux, the only female member of management at the time who was a direct descendant of the Krug family, you will leave knowing all about champagne, and you had better not forget it. Champagne traditionally is composed of Pinot Noir, Pinot Menuier, and Chardonnay grapes. Blanc de noirs, “white of the blacks” literally, is made from the two red wine grapes that are used to make traditional champagne, Pinot Noir and Pinot Menuier, no Chardonnay. This version of sparkling wine is far more common in California cuvees than those of the champagne region of France. A blanc de blanc champagne is only made from Chardonnay. A blanc de noirs should adapt to more palates than a brut on US domestic flight, as Champagne makers produce “Extra Dry” solely for the US market, which is anything but dry, but the American market buys it and likes it. Blanc de noirs sparkling wine or champagne is a beverage that is not a chore for most people to drink. The blanc de noirs has a more wholesome, fruity feel, with less acidity than a Brut. We used to serve Brut Chandon pre-departure on domestic and international. Now I am excited to be drinking Chandon blanc de noirs in-flight going cross country as this is one of United’s few flights with sparkling wine.. I wonder if someday if they come around with water like they do on Indian domestic flights if we will all go wild and write about it on FlyerTalk.

The breakfast is good and I am hungry, so the quiche I ordered tasted great. It is filled with Spinach which I love. There is also a piece of link sausage, Canadian bacon (which I always thought was created solely for airplane food, as I have never eaten it anywhere else,) and two potato pancakes. The map works on the Entertainment system but no announcement was made about the movies, so I guess they are playing but I don’t know if it is the 8 movies they play simultaneously on International or just the domestic offering.

After the meal service Gustavo passes out ½ liter bottles of water, which is really great, and he does what a flight attendant with United is supposed to do, cabin coverage. Every 15 minutes he is walking through the cabin checking on us, asking if we want something to drink. It is so easy to do, but so rarely done. I want to drink more champagne, but 4 glasses is enough. The water becomes an elixir for my body.

I look at the map showing us where we are, and we are entering Nebraska. We are flying fast, the captain has announced he thinks we will be: 15 early. I dose and awake over Erie, PA. My glass has been filled with champagne, and across the aisle Gustavo is telling the couple sitting in 5AB that we will be 30 minutes early, and now is the time for the snack. This is that deli service that used to be spread out over some console on the plane, but today the choice is roast beef and turkey, or a fruit plate. The woman to my right eats fruit for the second time. I eat the “deli” plate as they love to call it. Dipping broccoli into ranch dressing isn’t bad, but then I am from Berkeley, where as I walk to work on days that I do, I see a SUV=WMD sticker on every street sign I pass. If you can walk to work you should, you would see so much more than from your car. Where I live walking makes things beautiful, and I strive to find this in our world. Driving in Berkeley makes life horrible, so I have resigned to walking, whenever my sister isn’t in the hospital.

These certificates they give you when you are a Premier or a Premier Exec. Going the extra mile.. etc. they all compute into different pins that the flight attendants wear, usually each year there is a new pin, or different type of pin, depending upon how many certificates the flight attendant gets from customers. I haven’t worked for United for 10 years, but I am sure there is still a pin, just like at United there is always a flight for Denver boarding at some hour of the day, somewhere in the world. I think about this Gustavo dude running around on the plane, so much more approachable than the stern Asian New Yorker woman working on my side, so I prepare a “Superior Service deserves to be recognized” certificate for Gustavo. Let’s be real. If you are a male flight attendant, that means that basically, unless you are a contestant on the biggest loser, you don’t have boobs, and the possibility of getting these certificates from the average male Premier and Premier Exec customers is minimal. Sorry, but lots of “stacked” female flight attendants have gotten 25 or 35 certificates but they are complete disasters on the airplane. I got a lot of these certificates, but with a mother as a lifetime Premier Exec who always gave me a lecture when things went wrong, like at 4:00AM the lights were turned on in my room after she returned from a particularly harrowing experience and she told me about it, and the lights stayed on until she had said her piece. So, when I worked I was always thinking about all the stuff my mother, that lifetime United customer, told me, and its like a quandary and a mission at the same time, and the result is most of the time you become a flight attendant who strives to make the people happy. So, I gave Gustavo this certificate, and I don’t hand them out often, and wrote: “Thanks for the cabin coverage.” Just before landing he walked by and quietly said: “Thanks for what you wrote.”

We were in a holding pattern, delayed a bit on the tarmac, and arrived at the gate about 10 minutes late after we could have been there 30 minutes early had it not been for the JFK traffic. The rain that was threatening had blown off, and it was a chilly but clear evening when I exited the terminal, off for the subway to my friend’s place in Queens.


dhammer53
Mar 29, 08, 2:40 pm
Ross,

Nice report. Sorry it's not posted in the UA forum for us oldtime JFK based passengers. :D I recently heard that the famous Joe, is now based at UAWHQ. He was a gem. I was friends with so many JFK based flight attendants. Remember Lisa? She was coordinating a relief run to Central America with school supplies. How about Eileen, Veronica, and the flight attendant that married an eye doctor who she met on board. And lets not forget Rich. I don't see any of the oldtimers around anymore. They're the ones that cemented my relationship with UA when I first started flying the old 762's in 1989. <sigh>

I'll say a prayer for your sister.

violist
Mar 29, 08, 3:56 pm
Now this was a terrific report.

Chin up ... you do deserve a break ... I did this same riff with my sister
at Sloan-Kettering in '01-'02. Good luck to both of you.


lucky9876coins
Mar 29, 08, 4:14 pm
Amazing trip report! You did a great job of writing it, and to be honest pictures wouldn't have helped it at all with the great descriptions you provided! Hope to read another one of your reports soon.^

rosscali
Mar 29, 08, 4:59 pm
Amazing trip report! You did a great job of writing it, and to be honest pictures wouldn't have helped it at all with the great descriptions you provided! Hope to read another one of your reports soon.^

- Read this one if you like.. ;) EA/CHILE/URUGUAY/BA (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798686)

CarlTheWebmaster
Mar 29, 08, 7:06 pm
Wow. Just, wow.

This is one of the best trip reports I've ever read on FT (or anywhere).

Thank you very much for sharing!

-C

jef7
Mar 29, 08, 8:03 pm
This is an insightful and engaging report rosscali ^

You have given (trusted) us, your readers, rich amount of details both personal and observational, making this one quite special.

No pictures necessary :)

Seat 2A
Mar 29, 08, 8:15 pm
Great writing, wonderful memories. Indeed, a Trip Report classic! :-::-::-:

OPFlyer
Mar 29, 08, 8:44 pm
Great report--It just needs some pics:p

Eastbay1K
Mar 29, 08, 11:36 pm
Great report. However, I thought that "Extra Dry" was originally made for the British market. But you know more than I.

MatthewLAX
Mar 30, 08, 1:54 am
Excellent trip report.

fyo
Mar 30, 08, 4:13 am
I have written less than half a dozen of replies in this forum (I hang around more at SQTalk.com), but all of them (so far) happen to be for your stories...

Terrific writing, once again. Thank you for sharing is the least I can say.

Hope your sister gets much better soonest possible. I can see times are hard, I am also a Virgo and the passage of Saturn from Aug '07 for 2 1/2 yrs will be a tough but rejuvenating experience for us. Hold strong and a new life should be there for us soon.



“Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a
problem.” - J. Krishnamurti

l'etoile
Mar 30, 08, 8:32 am
Thank you. I'm glad there are no pictures as you painted wonderful ones with your words.

Warm thoughts to you and your sister.

rosscali
Apr 1, 08, 5:09 pm
Coffee in New York
So, if I am a donut shop in New York and I want a black coffee and I ask for black coffee, and I am given a cup of lukewarm coffee with sweetened milk in it, how do I ask for Black Coffee and actually get a cup of black, untainted coffee? This happened twice over the weekend so I must not be communicating correctly. Coffee Regular seems to be coffee with milk in it. What is Coffee that is actually Black? Where is Sarah Jessica Parker with the answer in her monologue?


UA 17C 31MAR JFK SFO 7B 530P 915PM

After a weekend in New York, my friends I am staying with in Queens give me a ride to JFK on Monday afternoon. It takes us an hour to go about 10 miles, but I make it in plenty of time. The First/Business class check-in for United has moved over to the right corner of the terminal, a change for a year ago when I was last here. In moments I have checked my bag and start through security. I proceed up the Red Carpet Club, and it is fairly crowded, and I noticed that after the 2 LAX flights and the SFO flight I am on, the two later departures to the west coast are delayed until 10:00PM, 2 hours or more per flight, so I feel lucky to be on the flight that I am on as I have to work early the following day. After reading a pretty fascinating RTW trip report while in New York by a first class traveler I am compelled by his comments that United Red Carpet Clubs are on par with airline lounges in Africa. While I know Red Carpet Clubs aren’t the Singapore Airlines Silver Kris lounge or anything that Emirates has some part in creating it is disturbing to me that he feels that they are on par with airport lounges in Africa. Only having been to Morocco on that continent, all I can think of a non-air conditioned room with flies circulating around its center while the orange and brown livery of an Air Afrique plane shadows the sweltering passengers inside at least from the direct Saharan sunlight tinting the room orange and brown while they await their departure. The temperature is fine here at JFK in the Red Carpet Club, and there are no open fires burning and the likeness of Edi Amin in some corner illuminating the room with his teeth is nowhere in sight. Something that the Red Carpet people have thought about is passenger regularity, as lately I do notice more and more carrot and celery sticks and today at JFK, packages of prunes one can take with them. This is an indirect remedy for the stresses of air travel. At least if you are eating prunes, there’s one less thing you have to worry about when traveling, or at least we would hope that would be the case. I order a split of Korbel Brut sparkling wine for $6.00 from the lady at the bar, the same that the SFO lounge sells Chandon Brut for.

A former hotel school classmate of mine from Durban, South Africa, Craig, who worked for 3 or 4 years for Four Seasons after finishing the school and now is back at his family’s game lodge in the northeast part of his country, once told me a fascinating story about an African Airport lounge. It was when he was in high school, and on his way to the US for a home stay. The plane touched down in the Azores, I think, and all the transit passengers went into a dark lounge while they cleaned the plane and it was refueled. The room, if I remember Craig correctly, was hot and humid, and in the middle of the night. Craig sensed a man approaching him from behind, and Craig turned around and before him was Nelson Mandela, a fellow passenger on the flight, long before he became president. Craig stood up to greet him and Mr. Mandela said: “Where are you going?”
“I’m off to America to see the place, do a year in high school and a home stay with an American family” Craig replied.
“Well, when you are done, don’t forget to come back home and bring all that you have learned back to your people in South Africa.”

That’s exactly what Craig has done, now the director of his family’s lodge, and learning the trials and tribulations of what it is like lead a hospitality operation in South Africa. He followed Mr. Mandela’s request to the t. When in school and we were talking about the future, he often referred to this story as his destiny, to return to his country and follow the advice Mr. Mandela has given him.

When I checked in the agent said: “It’s gonna happen at 5:10” so at 5:10 I went down to the gate and boarding was in full swing. After waiting for a few minutes I walked on the plane and sat down in 7B. In 6B is a gentleman with his pet dog, a Chihuahua I guess, and he or she or he is sitting in his lap. I am surprised that the crew allows this, but moreover I wonder if the dog’s squealing would be lessened if its master kept the dog in its travel cage, which has a generous view so the dog can look around and away from all the attention and distraction of the airplane cabin. Let’s say I allowed this when I was a flight attendant. More often than not, the guy in the next row breaks into hives when he is within two feet of the bog, starts to scream at me, and threatens to write me up because dogs should not be out free in the cabin. So, while I wanted everyone to be happy, following the rules laid out by trail and error usually creates more order than if they are not followed.

We push back about on time, maybe 5 minutes late after they shut the door a few minutes before departure time. It takes us about 30 minutes to get to the end of the runway, but I think for Kennedy we are doing very well. It has rained earlier in the day and there are high overcast clouds, but the visibility is good and things seem to be operating smoothly. When we are airborne, being from California and having gone to boarding school in New Jersey for high school for 4 years, I am always a bit relieved and thankful to be heading back home, squealing dog every 45 seconds or not. Mimi Sheraton wrote for either the first or one of the first issues of Conde Nast’s Traveller “Around the World in 80,000 calories” in the early 80ies. It was a humorous and interesting diary of her ramblings around the world, in business class, on different airlines. She took United from NRT to HKG (UA801) and told the crew the steak was too salty after she loved it and then they gave her a bento box. She ate that too. I wonder what she looks like. Anyway, when she returned to JFK, her starting point for the trip, she got into a cab with a turbaned driver double parking to pick her up outside Terminal 4 and said to herself: “America, No. Home, Yes” Well, good for her but while I think New York has many transparent images of the good ‘ol USA right in its city but the immenseness of the place makes me pretty relieved that I was born in, like, and want to remain in, California, despite how many million people from other states move to the Golden State every year. It is amazing the United States has so many diverse states with different people who all make up the country’s fabric. When the Swiss would always say to me when I lived there for Hotel School: “America has NO CULTURE.” My mother upon hearing this would tell me to respond: “You are right sir, but that’s what makes it interesting.” I think while it might not have originated in medieval times, the US does have its own culture, just a younger, more diverse culture than Confederation of Helvetica (Switzerland.)

For dinner the choices are beef, shrimp, and lasagna. The flight attendant taking orders ask for our first and second choice after boarding, no name usage, and both myself and my seat partner say steak for a first choice, and shrimp for a second choice.

The 757 has new leather seats. They’ve probably had them for a while, but the plane looks updated from the year before when I last took this trip. I refuse a digi-player but see they are smaller than they were last year, working off of some MP3 format instead of DVDs. The announcement that when the time comes to pick them up that customers must relinquish them to the flight attendants before the plane lands regardless of where they are in the movie makes me think of all the problems they have had with passengers not giving them back to the crew. They make such announcements for a reason. Still, it makes me want to skip the whole ordeal.

They lay tablecloths and serve drinks and then put down the tray with the appetizer and salad. I am not a big seafood fan, but the crab meat on cucumber salad is tasty and not a bad starter.


Dinner is finally served, and my neighbor in 7A garners the steak and I the shrimp. The shrimp is not good. There wasn’t any explanation about the choices remaining, to us, or anyone. The steak looks like it does on many United flights but the shrimp is just shrimp and some transparent noodles with this super sweet sauce and it is not appetizing. Across from me a guy is eating the lasagna and I guess it would be a better choice than the shrimp but it doesn’t matter now. When a flight attendant from coach comes up to help out and asks: “Can I have your nuts?” I guess that is a nice touch, but she just wants to clear away the ramekin on the table between the seats. The wines they have don’t really correspond to the menu but they have a Cote-du-Rhône from the wine list that is not half-bad, so I have that with the shrimp. It would be cool if they tell you what you’ve wound up with entrée wise before they bring the wine but they don’t. Maybe most people just don’t care about this.

Outside we flirt with late-afternoon daylight as we chase the sun, and early spring prevails, and it will probably stay light orange outside until an hour or so before we land in San Francisco. The engine noise quells the dog barking and EVERYONE except I fondle the dog as they walk by, including the flight attendants. I LOVE dogs a lot but I guess because of my former job as a flight attendant I worry about other passengers having allergies to animals, health concerns when on an airplane, and people doing what they are supposed to do instead of what they are told to do, and I don’t fondle the dog.

They come by with ice cream and dessert but getting another glass of red wine is difficult. If you serve someone some cheese and say that you will be back after you have finished serving the other people with your drink it sort of defeats the purpose of asking what you want to drink. Plus, when the flight attendant says that, it just means that they will forget, so you might as well forget it too. She did forget and when I ask her as I hand her my uneaten plate of cheese she then becomes a bit angry and then goes into a patronizing shame mode where she comes by once or twice before the plane lands and fills my and my seat partner’s glass up to the rim, which would make anyone who likes and is involved with wine pretty mad. I thought it was a poor recovery, but remain polite. When I exit the plane in San Francisco and thank her she does not look me in the eye. She wants me to feel bad for the next 75 years, because I asked for another glass of wine twice, I guess. Being a flight attendant working on such a flight with “premium service” does get really old, if that is all that your base has as an option for flying. It’s a lot of work, everyone seems to want something, and it doesn’t seem to end. I remember when I was working two jobs in Hawaii and went once a month to get my hair cut. The simple fact of getting a haircut, that someone was doing something for me, I found so therapeutic that I realized I probably shouldn’t work so much, as after a while, you’re burned out and drained. Trying to make the passengers feel bad when they are the customer doesn’t get you anywhere however, even when the customers are mean to you.

It is 2 hours and 50 minutes from landing and twilight is in full swing, and the cabin is dark; I was wrong about it getting dark an hour before landing. People watch their MP-3s, sleep, or watching the television programming following the movie they played overheard during the meal service. They used to always wait until the service was done before starting the movie but a few years before I stopped flying they made some decision to start the movie first thing and then follow it with other programming. They pass out water again, a bottle for everyone. I think this is a great idea for all first and business class flights, and especially important with the restriction on liquids.

Today United’s website has rebooking information for Aloha Airlines passengers. Wondering what the deal is I look at the Aloha website, and there it is, rough paraphrasing saying that today will be our last day of operation, as we are filing for bankruptcy. As a former Hawaii resident I realize this must be a very dark day in the 50th state. Aloha is a big employer in the islands and among its employees is one of my former neighbors who is a fireman but works there part-time loading luggage. I guess this means he won’t be coming out to California with his family this year, on Aloha at least. After being in operation for 62 years, such an end is very sad. When I worked in Honolulu at a Thai restaurant when I wasn’t flying, the father of one of our bartenders worked at Aloha. This was in the early to mid nineties. He told me that Aloha always pays landing fees every time they land in Honolulu, while Hawaiian has been exempt from that for many years due to their yoyo of financial difficulties. I wonder who pays landing fees now? Is Aloha cranking out their last day of operation and cutting a check to the Honolulu International Airport when they haven’t gotten around to charging Hawaiian or Go! Probably we will never find out.

In terms of cabin coverage, on this flight, if you don’t have a dog in your lap, forget it. Passing through the aisle periodically to see if the customers want anything presents a more welcoming tone than hiding behind a curtain, but the later is the norm these days. It’s so easy to pass out a tray of drinks but so few people think to do this. When I transferred to Honolulu in 1989, we were told the on International flights it is best to pass out a tray of different drinks as Japanese or other passengers unfamiliar with US airlines service might not be aware of all the drinks that we have. This in and of itself is a welcoming way to offer service. It shows that you have prepared something, and might be able to prepare more. It helps also when you have a communication barrier with the customers. Many flight attendants do this but not everyone. The service on this flight for domestic is more exhaustive than most, but one shouldn’t have to ask for stuff in business class. I wonder what First Class is like. Paying lots more money than last year for this trip, and using 30,000 miles to upgrade, the idea of sitting in First Class seems out of the question. It looks like there are 12 people up there, and a lady just behind me was moved up to an available seat with a man standing at the door waiting for hers just before departure. One more thing about the tray of drinks thing: on some flights in Asia, particularly NRT-BKK, we just made trays and trays of scotch and water (mizuwari) after the lunch service as that is what everyone wanted to drink. Yes, close to 90% of our Japanese clientele going to Bangkok wanted scotch and water so the Narita flight kitchen boarded all these miniatures of scotch and we gave it all to the passengers on each of these flights.. I was studying Japanese in my spare time during this period so after a drink service, lunch, and then the tray of scotch some of the more cavalier passengers would sometimes come up and talk to us when we were making trays of drinks, or counting Duty Free or, really great, to have a cigarette as it was allowed then on some planes when the passengers were standing. (This was a while ago.) A typical Japanese passenger’s contribution to such a conversation on this NRT-BKK flight went something like this: “I work at a sushi shop in Sendai. We are on a company holiday and we have closed the shop for a week. That’s my boss over there in row 15 passed out; I hope I meet a nice girl tonight in Thailand…” (last part of that sentence really cleaned up for this website) After a few of these conversations, I realize that some of the Japanese I comprehended I acquired in bed as well as the classroom. :D Of course most of it was in the classroom.

Back to flight 17, about 40 minutes before landing the lights are turned on and the personal entertainment players are collected. The captain announces that we will be landing on time. We touch down and wait for about 5 minutes for our gate. The captain says that we are waiting for a Honolulu flight to depart from our gate which is 4 hours and 30 minutes late. I wonder if some Aloha passengers were put on it from Oakland, Reno, Orange Country or Las Vegas but then I am just speculating. It could have been many other reasons.

We disembark and the luggage comes along in about 20 minutes. Passengers say hello again to the dog, in its case with its owner standing almost next to me at carousel 4.

The last Bayporter to the East Bay is at 10:00PM. I call from the baggage claim, preferring this and its $29 charge to the BART and a taxi option; I’m tired and have to get to work early. I get my bag at 9:50PM and go out to the waiting area. The telephone line closes promptly at 10:00PM, so you hope the guy wasn’t lying and that the van is coming as it becomes 10:15PM. Finally a van appears, and it is going to Berkeley. An elderly couple going to Oakland freak out thinking the driver is lying to them when he says their van is caught in traffic behind him; they think another van is not coming. I remind the driver that if they call the Bayporter number after 10:00PM, which I saw the gentlemen doing, they get a recording, and surmise that everyone has gone home. The Berkeley van driver radios the driver of the Oakland van and we wait until the van is visible on the arrivals roadway. I thought that was a good call. The couple knows that they’ve got a ride home, and we all get tired and confused and irritable at night, especially after the fun and games on the airplane. :)

cstead
Apr 1, 08, 11:31 pm
my thoughts and prayers for you and your sister rosscali

your reports are always fantastic, and I can only hope that I can tell a story as well as you someday

kkjay77
Apr 2, 08, 6:31 pm
I truly enjoyed reading your report.
You've written a fabulous report ^

However, I still have to say JFK RCC is a dump.
Maybe not as bad as some lounges located in Africa, but I believe SA lounge at JNB would be far superior. :D

rosscali
Apr 2, 08, 11:18 pm
I truly enjoyed reading your report.
You've written a fabulous report ^

However, I still have to say JFK RCC is a dump.
Maybe not as bad as some lounges located in Africa, but I believe SA lounge at JNB would be far superior. :D

I am sure you're right about that but I have a certain sentimentality towards the RCC. If you take a look at the into to this TRIP REPORT (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798686)you'll see why when you see what my mother ended up paying for a life membership. When United was primarily a domestic airline, it was the place, but it's not updated I know. Still, there are memories.

;)



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