Australia, New Zealand & the South Pacific - Cheap business airfare SYD-BOS
SYD-YYZ
Mar 15, 08, 11:55 pm
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get a good deal on business fare from Australia to Boston? I have been given a quote of AUD$16000 return on Qantas which sounds too hefty to me.
obscure2k
Mar 16, 08, 1:25 am
Moving this over to the Australia Forum for discussion.
Obscure2k
TravelBuzz Moderator
LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Mar 16, 08, 1:52 am
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get a good deal on business fare from Australia to Boston? I have been given a quote of AUD$16000 return on Qantas which sounds too hefty to me.
Hi SYD-YYZ
You can start with a booking engine such as zuji or bestflights. You will need to enter in your departure dates etc which you haven't posted here so it's a little bit difficult to advise you of a fare.
However that being said, there are plenty of alternatives well under the 16000, going as low as AUD5000, but for that you will trade off a much longer flight, seats which will not be lie flat, and with a lower booking class so you may have restrictions on fionding a seat on the exact day you want.
Some options, all from the east coast of Australia to New York (can then buy a cheap economy ticket to BOS):
Air Tahiti to New York, First Class AUD 10000
Malaysia Airlines to New York Biz Class $6549, First $9345
Thai Biz class to New York $7829
Or American Airlines will take you to BOS via Tokyo from Australia in Biz class for around $8000.
I couln't find a fare on United on the bestflights fare listing, but if you plug in your dates it will come up. United is good because of the connections, straight SYD-LA-Bos. You will probably also like their FF programme.
All of the above fares are excluding tax and fuel surcharges which will be about 400-500 dolalrs I think.
Regards
lme ff
SYD-YYZ
Mar 16, 08, 6:04 am
Thanks LHR/MEL/Europe FF.
I am planning to leave SYD on 27 or 28 June and return any day from 24-26 July. I've got a toddler travelling with me hence the wish to go on business class. Probably can tolerate 2 stopovers but probably not more than that given toddler is coming along. Just want to make the whole flight as pleasant as possible for toddler and myself.
EXLEFTSEAT
Mar 16, 08, 6:17 am
Probably won't be that pleasant for the rest of the biz pax;)
BiziBB
Mar 16, 08, 11:51 pm
The discussion about Asiana recently has been interesting.
Take a look in the Asiana Club (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=614)forum, in case you find some useful info there.
Being a Korean airline, there will be no shortage of drink options, if this appeals.
When I mentioned this to my Mrs I was told 'in Korea, customer service is revered like a religion!'
dannyr
Mar 17, 08, 4:46 pm
I've got a toddler travelling with me hence the wish to go on business class. Probably can tolerate 2 stopovers but probably not more than that given toddler is coming along. Just want to make the whole flight as pleasant as possible for toddler and myself.
Probably won't be that pleasant for the rest of the biz pax;)
I agree. I would be absolutely furious if a toddler flew Business and made the flight even a little intolerable.
number_6
Mar 17, 08, 6:45 pm
I agree. I would be absolutely furious if a toddler flew Business and made the flight even a little intolerable.I can't remember the last flight that I have taken which did not feature a toddler in either J or F -- often both. Yes, lots of 2 year olds fly in F these days; having the ticket cost 10% of the fare probably helps.
For the OP, there might be some practical considerations that affect your choice of airline with a toddler. Some of the J cabins are designed to isolate you from the adjacent pax, which might be important if your child is in a separate seat. Presuming that they are not, while the IATA rule is the same for all airlines -- infant fare of 10% until 2 years of age -- the implementation varies by airline. Some have a weight limit, requiring a separate seat for safety reasons above a certain body weight. There might be other limits as well (e.g. height) and not just age. So you may want to investigate how that varies between airlines, esp. if your child will be close to 2 at the date of travel. Not to mention the fare going up to 50% when they are a day over 2.
From observation, BA seems to be good with infants in the J cabin. QF less so. The worst I've seen is UA.
Ignoring cost, I would pick CX SYD-HKG-JFK-BOS (the last leg is a commuter flight on AA). But it is half-way around the world, and there really is no good way to go.
SYD-YYZ
Mar 18, 08, 3:34 am
I agree. I would be absolutely furious if a toddler flew Business and made the flight even a little intolerable.
That's selfish - a toddler has as much right to travel as anyone else.
trooper
Mar 18, 08, 3:47 am
True.. but that was not being challenged... What was being alluded to was the right of everyone else not to be disturbed by said toddler (or any other pax of course!!)
There IS a difference... except for those parents who think having their kid disturb everyone else is some kind of "right" as well.....
SYD-YYZ
Mar 18, 08, 2:28 pm
True.. but that was not being challenged... What was being alluded to was the right of everyone else not to be disturbed by said toddler (or any other pax of course!!)
There IS a difference... except for those parents who think having their kid disturb everyone else is some kind of "right" as well.....
That goes for those in economy class as well. Obviously each parent try to have their child as quiet as possible to avoid disturbing other pax but sometimes despite everyone's best efforts, it is not always possible to calm a child on a plane.
kiwibigdave
Mar 18, 08, 4:59 pm
I would be absolutely furious if a toddler flew Business and made the flight even a little intolerable.
That's selfish - a toddler has as much right to travel as anyone else.
More than selfish, it's just plain ignorant :rolleyes:
Sarah DDS
Mar 18, 08, 5:06 pm
it's just plain ignorant :rolleyes:
Empty rhetoric.
kiwibigdave
Mar 18, 08, 8:46 pm
Empty rhetoric.
Granted, in which case no different than the statement that drove it. (The poster would be furious why, because it became intolerable how, compared to what?)
But feel free to point me at the forum where empty rhetoric is allowed, just so we both know in the future ;)
Sarah DDS
Mar 18, 08, 11:28 pm
But feel free to point me at the forum where empty rhetoric is allowed, just so we both know in the future ;)
OMNI? :p
g_leyser
Mar 18, 08, 11:41 pm
Ahem...back on topic:
I suggest the OP look into a Circle Pacific fare on either oneworld or *A. (See those forums for details).
It would require quite a bit more time in the air, and I realize that with a toddler that may be tough, but you would get a ton more miles and save a lot of money. Last ime I checked it was $6K - $7K USD.
DownUnderFlyer
Mar 19, 08, 5:02 pm
True.. but that was not being challenged... What was being alluded to was the right of everyone else not to be disturbed by said toddler (or any other pax of course!!)
There IS a difference... except for those parents who think having their kid disturb everyone else is some kind of "right" as well.....
There is no right to an undisturbed flight. If a baby cries, a baby cries.
To the OP. You also need to check whether those airline suggestions here offer infant/children fares. Some of the options might not work because the price for an infant is 10% of the published fare and not 10% of your fare.
Thai-Kiwi
Mar 26, 08, 2:48 am
AFAIK, Circle Pacific on *A only goes as far as the west coast of North America ie YVR/SFO/LAX. But might still be an option. Dunno about OW options
Regarding pax (of any age) who make a disturbance around them; we all need to remember that air travel in any 'class' ('space category' really) is public transport - warts and all. We are all cramped into a confined space (some bigger than others), taken to 12,000' where even healthly folk suffer some effects of hypoxia and other altitude related effects (reduced taste, dehydration etc), for long periods of time (DVT, circadian dysrhyhmia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_dysrhythmia). And you can't get off the bus until arrival at the other end. Much patience is required, along with eyeshades, ear plugs, and muscle relaxant (of any kind).
The only ways to avoid other pax possibly disturbing your aviation experience is to:
a) not fly (trivial solution) or
b) charter a private aircraft
Other than that, welcome to the human race!
Thoughfully, TK
adampenrith
Mar 26, 08, 4:04 am
Personally I welcome anyone onto any flight I take.
However I expect them to :
sit in their seat quietly - and not disturb me, even someones hearty laugh at a good inflight movie can be annoying.
I expect that person to adhere to the safety instructions and to be as pleasant as possible to all other pax and the crew.
I treat those people the same way as I expect to be treated.
I had an incident on Ansett once departing DPS - in J - a couple with a unruly todler, first they had a loud blue with the cabin manager over their stroller that would not fit in the overhead, and had to go in the hold, they then threatened never to fly Ansett again, and then they threatened to get off the aircraft.
The Full J cabin all applauded at this - but they stayed.
meanwhile on takeoff mother had an anxiety attack, the child then had a tantrum as she did not understand mum with a oxygen mask on etc............
screamed and carried on. The cabin manager gave everyone ear plugs but it was painful.
Every pax has rights to be respectful
Adam
kiwibigdave
Mar 26, 08, 5:55 pm
Its all about tolerance ... However I expect ...:D
Pooch
Mar 28, 08, 12:06 am
You could try travelcorp.com.au - they quote UA Biz for around $6000 - much better value than QF!