American Express Membership Rewards - Manufacturer's Extended Warranty + AMEX extended?




sammy0623
Mar 10, 08, 8:05 pm
I'm just double checking, on the AMEX site, it says, essentially, if you have a product, and buy the mfrs extended warranty, you still receive the extended warranty for a year afterwards? Item in question is macbook, 1 year standard warranty, applecare warranty extends to 3 years, so AMEX would extend to 4 years?


cyrdog
Mar 15, 08, 7:09 am
I just looked at the program details on the Web site, and I'm still not sure. I thought so after reading the first bullet, but the second seems to exclude computers:


If you purchase an additional service contract or extended warranty with a product which is otherwise eligible
under the Buyer's Assurance Plan, and the combined coverage provided by both the original manufacturer’s
warranty and the purchased service contract does not exceed five years, then the product is eligible for coverage
under the Buyer's Assurance Plan. The Buyer's Assurance Plan will extend the warranty time period and mirror
coverage of the original manufacturers' warranty up to one additional year after both the original
manufacturer’s warranty and the purchased service contract have expired. If, however, you purchase an
American Express® Service Plan with a purchase from American Express Merchandise Services, the Buyer's
Assurance Plan will apply before the Service Plan is in effect. If the combined coverage of the original
manufacturer’s warranty and the purchased service contract exceeds five years then the product purchased is
not eligible under the Buyer's Assurance Plan and no coverage applies.
If you buy an additional service contract or an extended warranty for a computer, computer component or part
that already comes with an original U.S. Manufacturer’s warranty, unless such coverage is provided from and
administered by the original manufacturer, coverage under the Buyer’s Assurance Plan does not apply.

boulderlaw
Mar 15, 08, 10:55 am
If you buy an additional service contract or an extended warranty for a computer, computer component or part
that already comes with an original U.S. Manufacturer’s warranty, unless such coverage is provided from and
administered by the original manufacturer, coverage under the Buyer’s Assurance Plan does not apply.
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AppleCare should fall under this exception to the computer exception.


ZbadhabitZ
Mar 15, 08, 11:22 am
Definitely still confused myself. So are we going with yes Amex applies here, or no? Durn all the legal and technical mumbo jumbo!

Djlawman
Mar 15, 08, 12:23 pm
Yes, AMEX will still provide the additional year of warranty, since the extended AppleCare warranty is provided by the original equipment manufacturer.

But, of course, this is not legal advice that I am providing.:D

biggestbopper
Mar 15, 08, 4:56 pm
IMHO, if you have problem and there is an arguable case for coverage, Amex will take care of you. I remember when I bought a vacuum at Sears, hose cracked, it was out of Sears warranty, Amex immediately send me a check for the entire cost of the machine. :cool:

They appear to WANT to pay, unlike the rip-off extended warranties you can buy at Circuit City etc.

Guess Amex is thinking about a long-term relationship. @:-) The retailer and/or warranty company is not. :td:

sammy0623
Mar 15, 08, 11:55 pm
i suppose i'll call or email them to find out, but it seems to point to being covered...i'll let you know what i hear. i suppose if i end up going to law school, i'll have an answer in 4 years...

SusanDK
Mar 16, 08, 3:14 am
I'd be curious to know the answer to this one as well. I'm planning to buy a new Macbook Pro next month, and am considering Applecare which will extend the one year warranty to three years.

Since I have a Centurion card, the AmEx extended warranty will match the original warranty up to three years (instead of one year as for Platinum).

So I'm wondering if I'll get the 3 years Applecare plus 3 years AmEx extended warranty for a total of six years, or if it is 3 years Applecare plus one year AmEx extended warranty, based on the original Apple one-year warranty.

Does anyone know?

Susan

boulderlaw
Mar 16, 08, 8:04 am
i suppose i'll call or email them to find out, but it seems to point to being covered...i'll let you know what i hear. i suppose if i end up going to law school, i'll have an answer in 4 years...

Are you suggesting that questions about law become less convoluted after going to law school? :D:D:D:D

sbm12
Mar 16, 08, 5:26 pm
So I'm wondering if I'll get the 3 years Applecare plus 3 years AmEx extended warranty for a total of six years, or if it is 3 years Applecare plus one year AmEx extended warranty, based on the original Apple one-year warranty.

Does anyone know?


I cannot say that I "know" definitively, but I have to assume that they are only going to give you one year, since they extend the original warranty, not the add-on.

soitgoes
Mar 16, 08, 5:51 pm
I cannot say that I "know" definitively, but I have to assume that they are only going to give you one year, since they extend the original warranty, not the add-on.
The limit is a one-year extension, except for Centurion cardmembers.
When a Cardmember charges the entire cost of a covered product with his or her Card account[1] the Buyer's Assurance Plan will extend the terms of the original manufacturer's warranty for a period of time equal to the duration of the original manufacturer's warranty, up to one additional year (up to three additional years for Centurion Card members), on warranties of five years or less that are eligible in the U.S.
https://www124.americanexpress.com/cards/benefits/includes/pdf/buyersAssurance2003.pdf

sbm12
Mar 16, 08, 7:47 pm
The limit is a one-year extension, except for Centurion cardmembers.

https://www124.americanexpress.com/cards/benefits/includes/pdf/buyersAssurance2003.pdf

Yeah, and the "original manufacturer's warranty" is one year. I cannot believe that AmEx will double an extended warranty purchase as opposed to the original hardware warranty.

soitgoes
Mar 16, 08, 10:50 pm
Yeah, and the "original manufacturer's warranty" is one year. I cannot believe that AmEx will double an extended warranty purchase as opposed to the original hardware warranty.

Actually, AmEx's terms will provide coverage extension for extended warranties of five years or less--see post #2 and/or the PDF link I posted. For computers, the extended warranty has to be provided by the manufacturer, which AppleCare is.

sbm12
Mar 17, 08, 7:49 am
Actually, AmEx's terms will provide coverage extension for extended warranties of five years or less--see post #2 and/or the PDF link I posted. For computers, the extended warranty has to be provided by the manufacturer, which AppleCare is.

I agree completely with this. But the specific extension is only of the base warranty, after the extended warranty is expired:
If you purchase an additional service contract or extended warranty with a product which is otherwise eligible under the Buyer's Assurance Plan, and the combined coverage provided by both the original manufacturer’s warranty and the purchased service contract does not exceed five years, then the product is eligible for coverage under the Buyer's Assurance Plan. The Buyer's Assurance Plan will extend the warranty time period and mirror coverage of the original manufacturers' warranty up to one additional year after both the original manufacturer’s warranty and the purchased service contract have expired.

So either the Platinum or the Centurion will only get one year extended (mirroring the coverage of the original manufacturer's warranty). The centurion card will not get 3 additional years, as the policy is to mirror the original term with a max duration of 3 years. Since the original warranty is one year that is what you'll get extended, after the original warranty and the AppleCare have both expired. If the original warranty were for 3 years and then AppleCare was another 2 years (instead of 1 + 2) then the AmEx extension would be 3 years for Centurions and 1 year for Platinums, mirroring the original warranty. But the original warranty, which is what AmEx mirrors, is only one year.

soitgoes
Mar 17, 08, 9:12 am
So either the Platinum or the Centurion will only get one year extended (mirroring the coverage of the original manufacturer's warranty).
Now I understand what your saying.
I'm not quite sure what the exact interpretation of the terms would be, but, as a non-Centurion, it doesn't really matter for me for all practical purposes. ;)

sammy0623
Mar 17, 08, 9:56 pm
My question to them:
Hi, I was just trying to double check on this. I bought a computer in September 06 and September 07. Each came with a 1 year warranty, and I purchased a warranty that extends it to 3 years,from Apple (the manufacturer of the computer). Does the AMEX purchase protection extend it to the fourth year. I tried reading the FAQs and stuff on the purchase protection, but it's a bit confusing.

Thanks
Sammy

Actually, we found out today, the 06 computer doesn't have the manufacturer's extended warranty, but...their response:

Dear Samuel:

Thank you for using the Secure Message Center to contact us. I apologize for the delay in replying to you.

Our Buyer's Assurance Plan extends the terms of the original manufacturer's warranty up to one additional year on products with warranties of 5 years or less that are eligible in the U.S., when the entire cost was charged to your Card account.

Since you purchased the extended warranty from the Manufacturer, the additional year that we give would apply. If you have bought the extended warranty from the retailer, than it would not. It's a little confusing, when the retailer & the manufacturer are the same.

If you have additional questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our Buyer's Assurance Department directly and toll-free at 1-800-225-3750, 24 hours a day - 7 days a week.

I hope this is helpful to you.

Thank you for being a valued Cardmember since 2005 and for choosing the American Express Card.

Sincerely,

xxxxx
Email Servicing Team
American Express Interactive Services




So, it is covered, since I bought the extended warranty from AMEX...good for my computer, not really applicable for my brother's...

soitgoes
Mar 17, 08, 10:25 pm
So, it is covered, since I bought the extended warranty from AMEX...good for my computer, not really applicable for my brother's...
Well, your brother's is covered by Amex right now until September 2008.

Yours is covered by Apple until September 2010, and by Amex from that point through September 2011.

divemistressofthedark
Mar 22, 08, 1:58 am
Damn I love this website. I had no idea both the Macbook Pro on which I'm writing this and one I bought on Amex for my husband (to get the points; he wrote me a check) are subject to this extension since I put 'em both on PLAT.

Thanks for posting this, all!!

moolman
Mar 30, 08, 2:28 am
If you get an extra 3 years from the centurion card, there is no reason to buy an Apple care 3 year warranty. Come on, that computer in 4 years will be slow anyway and you have a Centurion card, so I know you can afford another Mac in 4 years. :)

SusanDK
Mar 30, 08, 3:17 am
If you get an extra 3 years from the centurion card, there is no reason to buy an Apple care 3 year warranty. Come on, that computer in 4 years will be slow anyway and you have a Centurion card, so I know you can afford another Mac in 4 years. :)

No, the extended warranty will only match the original manufacturer's warranty, up to a maximum of 3 years. Since the Apple original warranty is one year, Centurion gives you one extra year (same as platinum). If you buy a a manufacturer's extra warranty, such as Applecare, you still get the original warranty extended. As sbm12 explained, without Applecare, you will get 1 year Apple + 1 year Plat/Cent. With Applecare, you get 3 years Apple + 1 year Plat/Cent.

So you need to decide if 2 years is good enough, or if you want 4 years. The Powerbook I'm typing on right now had a major screen fault after 2 1/2 years. So I'm seriously considering Applecare for my next Macbook Pro.

The Centurion 3 year extended warranty is an added benefit over Platinum when you purchase an item that comes with an original manufacturer's warranty of 2 or 3 years. Not sure if any computers offer this, but sometimes large appliances or other items do.

Susan



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