JetBlue TrueBlue - B6 will be discontinued from FLL-BQN/PSE

Hi all,

I have heard from B6 has been discontinued due to leak at FLL. Can you tell me more specifiable information from JetBlue will be discontinued. Because it wasn't performing very well from FLL-BQN/PSE. If you guys figures out more information from B6 doing from FLL. Thanks, Guys! :)

I thought these routes were just launched :confused:

Where did you hear this?

Is it really doing worse than MC0-BUR or ATL-0AK/LGB routes? Those routes weren't even cancelled that quickly.

Is it really doing worse than MC0-BUR or ATL-0AK/LGB routes? Those routes weren't even cancelled that quickly.

Yeah, it was last previously routes from IAD-SMF has been discontinued few years ago. Along more specifiable routes from ATL-LGB/OAK but, B6 has been pulled out from ATL due to leak competition with DL & FL already flies from ATL-LAX. It was short time at ATL for 6 months in service from ATL-LGB/OAK beginning around May 2003 through December 5 or 6, 2003. I am not sure which specific dates is that.

I thought these routes were just launched :confused:

Where did you hear this?

See the original thread from a.net about B6 end service FLL-PSE/BQN. Here it is:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3831231/

Thanks, Guys! :)

the saying goes "take everything with a grain of salt"

On airliners.net the saying is "Take everything with an ocean of salt"

I will refuse to trust anything from anyone lower than upper management at B6 about routes or discontinuations of routes. On the internet I trust no one on matters such as these unless they have proven themselves a reliable source. Possibly the person who launched the other thread works at NK so that people would take NK instead of B6 on FLL-BQN/PSE. I do not trust the other thread.

the saying goes "take everything with a grain of salt"

On airliners.net the saying is "Take everything with an ocean of salt"

I will refuse to trust anything from anyone lower than upper management at B6 about routes or discontinuations of routes. On the internet I trust no one on matters such as these unless they have proven themselves a reliable source. Possibly the person who launched the other thread works at NK so that people would take NK instead of B6 on FLL-BQN/PSE. I do not trust the other thread.

They were right about CMH long before B6 announced it....

It's confirmed on our company site. Crewmembers where even baffled by the flight when it was announced. Apparently the flight is only seeing 25-30 customers a night, even on the advanced bookings.

It's confirmed on our company site. Crewmembers where even baffled by the flight when it was announced. Apparently the flight is only seeing 25-30 customers a night, even on the advanced bookings.

Wow, that was short. I do remember posting my thoughts when it was first announced...the times were very odd, especially the fact that one segment (forgot which one) had a stop, meaning like ~30 minutes airborne within PR.

Either way, glad to see the company not only reposition aircraft but pull the plug on this one before it really bleeds more cash. 25-30 customers a night is simply not acceptable - I assume this is even on the A320 which only makes matters worse?

Now, jetBlue, add LAS from FLL!!!!!!

It's confirmed on our company site. Crewmembers where even baffled by the flight when it was announced. Apparently the flight is only seeing 25-30 customers a night, even on the advanced bookings.

Ok, I guess they were right about this one. Thank you for bringing an expert opinon on this. Sounds like horrible loads!

Now, jetBlue, add LAS from FLL!!!!!!

Granted this is just my opinion, but B6 should really build up LAS as well as SLC out west. SLC would be a little easier due to the fact the only large scale competition would be DL and WN to a much lesser extent. Plus it can be a great Northeast-West Coast connection point not to mention all the skiing and national park destinations in and around Utah that people use SLC for. LAS has a lot more competion from every airline, especially US and WN. Neverthless, with some slow but steady perserverance it can be built up.

LAS has a lot more competion from every airline, especially US and WN. Neverthless, with some slow but steady perserverance it can be built up.


Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember that LAS is facing a runway capacity bind in the next few years. Maybe a good reason not to think of too many flights until they add the capacity.

Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember that LAS is facing a runway capacity bind in the next few years. Maybe a good reason not to think of too many flights until they add the capacity.

Are there slot controls at LAS? I don't recall hearing about any but it may have gone past me if there are any.

Granted this is just my opinion, but B6 should really build up LAS as well as SLC out west. SLC would be a little easier due to the fact the only large scale competition would be DL and WN to a much lesser extent. Plus it can be a great Northeast-West Coast connection point not to mention all the skiing and national park destinations in and around Utah that people use SLC for. LAS has a lot more competion from every airline, especially US and WN. Neverthless, with some slow but steady perserverance it can be built up.

I gotta disagree. There aren't slot controls at LAS, but it's a well-served airport that's beginning to experience congestion. And the short-haul business in and out of LAS is owned by Southwest and HP, err, USAir. From SoCal, WN has a hundred flights a day to LAS. Every legacy flies to LAS from each of their hubs. Yields just aren't very high and, IMO, B6 needs to get out of the business of chasing low yields.

B6 needs to identify markets with high yields that aren't well-served and feature uncongested airports. You know, the way WN grew for 35+ years into a consistently profitable airline.

Problem is, that business isn't very sexy. That business doesn't lend itself to becoming a huge national network airline overnight. But that kind of business can be profitable. And profits should be the number one priority at an airline that analysts expect will earn a whopping twelve cents per share in 2008. Twelve cents is unacceptable. And with a margin that slim, all it takes is another Valentine's Day massacre-like meltdown to erase that meager expected profit.

The solution is rather simple. Identify underserved markets offering high yields, and attack them. Offer sufficient frequency to attract disgruntled business travelers and offer lower fares than the crappy legacy currently flying the route. Stimulate demand from that airport. Create a "jetBlue effect."

It's confirmed on our company site. Crewmembers where even baffled by the flight when it was announced. Apparently the flight is only seeing 25-30 customers a night, even on the advanced bookings.

It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall for discussions on how the projections were so wrong for these flights.

NY has a much bigger Puerto Rican population than South Florida but this had to be known before flights were launched.

The current board has no qualms about trying a route that hasn't been flown before. MCO-BQN has been a huge success and has even gained a second daily flight. Flying from FLL seemed like a natural next step. Thankfully Dave and his board also have no reserves about cutting a route if it is causing us to bleed money.

Just checked the route map, and apparently BQN-FLL will be starting on Feb 15, 2008? Is that right? When you click on FLL on the map itself there is no line drawn between the two cities (though that does happen sometimes when they put new routes). Just wanted to point that out and add a little confusion to the topic...lol