Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - Which Flight JFK-HKG?

Does anyone have any thoughts as to which JFK-HKG nonstop flight is more comfortable. Does anybody have any thoughts? Also, any preferences for seats?

There will be two of us flying in J on 30 January:

CX841
JFK 09:15
HKG 14:25+1

or

CX831
JFK 13:55
HKG 19:05+1

Thanks. I tried to do some searches on this, but was unable to find anything.

Both flights are operated by 77As. Looking from the seat map, 831 is much more full than 841 in terms of the number of seats assigned at the moment. As far as flight timings are concerned, I prefer 841 to 831.

It depends how far you live from JFK. If it's close and you don't mind waking up early, take the earlier one.

Furthermore, is HKG your final destination? If you're going to southern China or Macau, you may need to look at bus/ferry schedule.

It depends how far you live from JFK. If it's close and you don't mind waking up early, take the earlier one.

Furthermore, is HKG your final destination? If you're going to southern China or Macau, you may need to look at bus/ferry schedule.

HKG is the final destination. I live in Manhattan, so JFK is about 30-45 minutes away.

Can't provide seat recommendations as the new configuration isn't great for couples. But you are likely to be sleeping anyway. You should however not take the 2 middle seats as you won't be able to walk to each other's seats easily.

I'm taking JFK-HKG as well but in march, and from what I've read on here, it seems that the earlier flight (841), will have a smaller load because of its early departure- not that it really matters in J.

but imo its kinda hard to sleep on a 9am flight, since after all, you did get up not too long ago.. but thats not flight related. Airplane wise, they're both the same bird.

If you want to arrive with minimal jetlag - take the 889 which stops in YVR but adds 4 hrs to the flight time.

Careful on dates, 830/831 and 840/841 are not always the same plane. 830/831 still occasionally has 346 scheduled, which means old config. If you want to be sure you have 773 yon 830/831 you'll have to manually check the dates as I can never figure out the CX rotation schedule. As of March 346 will still be used on some days.

EF shows they are both "773"s, which should actually be 77As, on 30 Jan. However, CX sometimes does last minute aircraft change.

Careful on dates, 830/831 and 840/841 are not always the same plane. 830/831 still occasionally has 346 scheduled, which means old config. Not any more, it doesn't. All 777-300ER.

I like the morning flight because you get into HKG a bit earlier. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into the argument that J loads are lighter because it's an earlier flight; when i took it about a month ago J was packed. Unless someone has actual data, I just don't know.

Not any more, it doesn't. All 777-300ER.

Do you actually fly this route often? So many people on FT fly something once or twice and then just extrapolate their experience+other Flyertalk posts into the "truth." I do this route monthly and just booked March 30 HKG-JFK and got 346. I may be wrong here, but I post on this board based on real information I have to try and help other people out with their requests, and not just regurgitating other posts. If you work for CX or know something I don't (that hasn't been posted on Flyertalk before) apologies, otherwise check before you say I'm wrong.

So, in a nutshell, yes you can still get A340-600 equipment on this route. That means old configuration Y, J or F which, IMO, is far less desirable than the 773 with the new config. So I'd base your decision on that above anything else.

Do you actually fly this route often? So many people on FT fly something once or twice and then just extrapolate their experience+other Flyertalk posts into the "truth." I do this route monthly and just booked March 30 HKG-JFK and got 346. I may be wrong here, but I post on this board based on real information I have to try and help other people out with their requests, and not just regurgitating other posts. If you work for CX or know something I don't (that hasn't been posted on Flyertalk before) apologies, otherwise check before you say I'm wrong.

:confused: Freak out much?

Between now and March 28th, the JFK-HKG n/s route is scheduled with ONLY 777-300ERs. I am not "regurgitating other posts" and I don't know why for the life of me you would suggest that I am. This is based on published schedules - check ExpertFlyer, check the CX.com online timetable, check the OneWorld pdf timetable.

For some reason, beginning 3/30/08, the 346 seems to re-appear on the schedule. Logic tells me that they may have just not updated their schedules that far out; it makes no sense for them to bring the 346 back on this route, when I believe they continue to accept deliveries of the 777-300ER. Why don't you come back to us after you actually take this flight.

So, in a nutshell, yes you can still get A340-600 equipment on this route. That means old configuration Y, J or F which, IMO, is far less desirable than the 773 with the new config. So I'd base your decision on that above anything else.

I agree on both points. I fly the route about 4 to 5 times a year and when booking I always check the CX website first to see what equipment is being used and adjust my dates accordingly. My preferred flight to HKG is 831 because I don't sleep much on planes and I can land in HKG and go straight to sleep. While looking for a flight for my son in May 2008, I noticed that the 346 is unfortunately back on the schedule. So, as a fan of the new 77As, and their far superior Y, I'd either try to make him, a student, take the earlier flight (and hence wake up well before noon heaven forbid) or adjust his departure by a day or two. JFK is about 45 mins away from my house in North NJ w/o traffic, up to 90 mins with traffic. Yet, I still fly CX vs. CO. Says a lot about product and service.

Do you actually fly this route often? So many people on FT fly something once or twice and then just extrapolate their experience+other Flyertalk posts into the "truth." I do this route monthly and just booked March 30 HKG-JFK and got 346. I may be wrong here, but I post on this board based on real information I have to try and help other people out with their requests, and not just regurgitating other posts. If you work for CX or know something I don't (that hasn't been posted on Flyertalk before) apologies, otherwise check before you say I'm wrong.

Please ijgordon do not take it personnally, but I fully agree with QRC3288 that many posters on FT actually spend much more time in front of their computers and FT than flying. Many information provided by such "volonteers" have little to do with true flight experience.
I have colleagues flying this route and they complain of frequent last-minute ac change, besides the 346 periodically scheduled well ahead of time.

CX changed flights on me before. In the case between the 77A and 346, 346 can take a few more J/F passengers but 77A can take more Y passengers. If CX runs into an overbooking situation, they may still swap aircrafts until they no longer have 346s.

isn't there a CX flight that leaves around 10 or 11 PM? that's the one my family usually takes when we go to the philippines cause it arrives in the morning in the philippines

isn't there a CX flight that leaves around 10 or 11 PM? that's the one my family usually takes when we go to the philippines cause it arrives in the morning in the philippines

Yes, it's flight 889, which goes to HKG via YVR. So it isn't a non-stop route. The equipment it uses is the 747-400. I believe now they use the 74A version.

Why don't you come back to us after you actually take this flight.

Look, I just try to post when people have questions. I'm DM out of HK and fly more days on CX and KA metal than I don't. When I have questions I need answered I ask, and others who fly answer them. After my secretary just booked my trip to JFK in March, which, after another trip next month will make it 7 round-trips in 12 months on CX830/1/840/1 (that's exclusive of LAX, SFO, SYD, AKL and LHR long-hauls in that same time frame and countless other regionals), I saw your post. Which received the brunt of my feelings towards some on FT because, as you probably know since you fly so much, lots of people on FT have little new information, oftentimes they seem more like flying buffs, and instead their posts are just others' repackaged posts (maybe throwing in the experience from the flight they just took last week or needless banter, if you want a prime example of what I'm saying go to the British Airways thread on the 777 crash at LHR a few days ago, I went there searching for new information on the cause of the crash for some creative research on Boeing, but instead had to leaf through literally 30 or something pages of often pointless, redundant banter...somewhere that I can see this thread going, so I'll leave it at this one and will just go back to replying when I know what I'm talking about). I don't know whatever website you look at for seats, but I don't think that diminishes what I know because I don't use some flyer website or something. I fly because I need to go to meetings, and I happen to have a lot of them in other places than Hong Kong. That's about it. I use this website because it's useful and hopefully I can be useful to others. When I post I don't make stuff up. I saw 346 on my itinerary so I said 346 was still in service, and wasn't keen when someone said that was bs. Okay?

Please ijgordon do not take it personnally, but I fully agree with QRC3288 that many posters on FT actually spend much more time in front of their computers and FT than flying. Many information provided by such "volonteers" have little to do with true flight experience.That's nice, and I probably don't even disagree, but what does it have to do with my post, or ANY of my posts? And it doesn't defend QRC3288's tone in post #10, which is what I took personally.

I have colleagues flying this route and they complain of frequent last-minute ac change, besides the 346 periodically scheduled well ahead of time.Initially, this had nothing to do with equipment substitutions; I claimed in post #12, in response to the quoted portion of post #10, that the 777-300ER is the only a/c scheduled on this route. Which happens to be true until March 30th, for whatever reason. Again, I maintain based on my educated experience in these matters, that there is no logical reason I can think of why CX would purposely bring the 346 back to the schedule on JFK-HKG. Are they worried about stealing too much business from CO with their flat beds? ;)

FWIW, I do fly to HKG about 3-4 times per year, and I do have a HKIA frequent traveler card to prove it.

That's nice, and I probably don't even disagree, but what does it have to do with my post, or ANY of my posts? And it doesn't defend QRC3288's tone in post #10, which is what I took personally.

Not trying to hurt you personally.Apologies for that.

can anyone here give me an estimate on how much it might cost altogether traveling JFK-HKG-CEB (roundtrip)

or any good websites/travel agencies (in new york/new jersey)??

can anyone here give me an estimate on how much it might cost altogether traveling JFK-HKG-CEB (roundtrip)

or any good websites/travel agencies (in new york/new jersey)??



in Y J or F?