MilesBuzz! - United-Delta partnership

I have a flight scheduled in May on United, PHL-HNL. I would like to post these miles to my Delta account, however I have been hearing that this partnership may end due to the United-USAIR partnership. I know Delta is ending its partnership with Hilton. Does anyone know what the status is with United-Delta?

The status at present is status quo.

Despite United trying to buy USair 2 years ago, and their codeshare agreement this past year, and the DL/NW/CO alliance announced (also last year), I NEVER heard anything about the United-Delta partnership changing. Lots of rumors expecting it to be changed, but never anything definitive.

This is especially surprising since I believe the USair-AA codeshare (and FF redemption) was cancelled was because USair was willing to be bought by United (and it never got approved!).

I don't understand the logic of the DL-UA arrangement, but I'm glad it still exists.

Jeff

Remember that only United-operated flights count for DL status (no express/codeshare/etc.).

We flew United a while back, gave our skymiles #, and waited but the miles never posted. I inteaded to follow-up, but never did. How long after a flight can you get Delta miles for a partnership flight? I'm not sure I even have the info anymore but am curious.

been following this one a lot lately.

What I do know is this--and some know all this anyway but I thought I'd compile it here:

1) UA + DL still as it was: not for international and not for codeshare or express. Just straight flights, and no stopovers. You call the airline from which you are taking the award to book on the other. That is unchanged.

2) slpflyer, get on it! take copies of all tickets, notes, boarding c\ards, etc and write em a letter simply explaining what you just said here. If all is correct there should be no time limit on this one. I have done domestic DL and UA flights that do take a while to credit but am on it til they do. I just have a folder kept handy with everything needed til I see my miles post.

I would not worry about NOT being allowe dto get UA miles on DL or DL miles on UA until THEY announce it, but keep records and be prepared to send copies in to whichever airline you want the miles on if they do not come in within a few weeks. Again: slpflyer
get on it! You will be fine.

3) yes, DL===>HH is ending and you need to get your DL miles out ASAP. They have to be sent to you so that the certs that DL mails you are dated before FEB 28. Dont wait til last minute! The miles are transferrable in 5k increments and take more than 60 days to credit to HH once they get them signed from your mailing to them. But yeah, you can check more relevant threads there. But we know all this.

4) US Air and UAL: you can get miles on both by flying both, but you cannot yet USE miles on either to fly either. I have heard APRIL. Many agents talked to said they believe it will include UAL express and code share flights but dont know yet. This may effect the DL relationship so I would imagine that things will change soon. However, right now, you can earn on 3 carriers in the US which is nice. take it while it lasts and just keep records.

5) Now, if you wanna try to send those boarding cards and ticket copies into partners overseas that you have FFp on... you can! You get the miles there or here... even for domestic flights. Just tell them you forgot to do it at the counter and be sure the miles are not already being credited to the local carrier.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gifMM

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Recent confirmation it still works, from an FTer and a UAL e-mail can be found here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/008294.html

I was booking award travel on United yesterday and asked if the agent could find something on Delta metal. She had no qualms about looking, though she didn't find anything. Probably something to do with when and where I am going, Hawaii over Christmas.

The skinny is: Delta and United agreement is unchanged.

Just recently booked award travel on Delta using UA miles. No problem whatsoever. I'm trying to burn off my UA miles as quickly as possible so as to avoid what is IMHO the inevitable.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Marathon Man:
been following this one a lot lately.

What I do know is this--and some know all this anyway but I thought I'd compile it here:

3) yes, DL===&gt;HH is ending and you need to get your DL miles out ASAP. They have to be sent to you so that the certs that DL mails you are dated before FEB 28. Dont wait til last minute! The miles are transferrable in 5k increments and take more than 60 days to credit to HH once they get them signed from your mailing to them. But yeah, you can check more relevant threads there. But we know all this.

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This was not my experience. Hilton posted my points within 2 1/2 weeks of the day I *mailed* the Delta certificates!!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by channa:
Remember that only United-operated flights count for DL status (no express/codeshare/etc.).</font>

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif ... I don't think so, no United flights count for status on DL ... maybe you mean count for just miles?

I also just obtained a Delta award two days ago using UA miles, as UA had no availability anywhere remotely near the dates I needed. And anyway, the DL flights were more convenient for me. I don't know whether it's because everyone is frantically trying to redeem their miles before this Titanic sinks, or whether UA is being excessively stingy with availability, but I am getting increasingly frustrated.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lintemut:
I was booking award travel on United yesterday and asked if the agent could find something on Delta metal. She had no qualms about looking, though she didn't find anything. Probably something to do with when and where I am going, Hawaii over Christmas.

The skinny is: Delta and United agreement is unchanged.

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This is so funny - I am a PM on DL, called up for the same flights, ORF to anywhere in Hawaii and could not get ANYTHING on DL flights. Just for the heck of it we gave UA flights a shot and I got what I needed for 4 people between Christmas 03 and New Years. It makes you wonder how seats are allocated.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Beckles:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif ... I don't think so, no United flights count for status on DL ... maybe you mean count for just miles?</font>

You're right, Beckles. I meant miles, not status.

Thanks Marathon man for the feedback. Now for the ticket receipt and boarding pass search among my files!

The only benefit is between the UA/DL Frequent Flyer program is that you can fly one airline and accrue redeemable mileage for the other. In my case, I will never fly enough with DL to achieve any status so I use my UA MP# and accrue redeemable mileage to award travel or upgrades. There is no provision for status mileage. Therefore, this program is useless to me.

[This message has been edited by RobotDoctor (edited 02-17-2003).]

Beat ranles to it.


Milesbuzz?

One thing I've noticed is that the miles never seem to post on their own. Three trips on UA, three times I have had to write with copies of boarding passes and tickets, even though UA confirmed on phone and at counter that my SkyMiles # was on the res.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RobotDoctor:
[B]The only benefit is between the UA/DL Frequent Flyer program is that you can fly one airline and accrue redeemable mileage for the other. [B]</font>

Uh, no. I think the best benefit of this limited partnership is that you can REDEEM UA miles for DL flights, which opens up many new destinations and possibilities for my UA miles. In fact, it has allowed me to burn off my UA miles quickly and keep my DL mileage balance intact.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dream7:
Uh, no. I think the best benefit of this limited partnership is that you can REDEEM UA miles for DL flights, which opens up many new destinations and possibilities for my UA miles. In fact, it has allowed me to burn off my UA miles quickly and keep my DL mileage balance intact.</font>

I'd rather use DL miles for the flight 'cause UA miles will still be HHonorable http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif come March.

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FWIW--I flew United Wednesday, and the miles have already posted on Delta.

JP

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by j379pa:
FWIW--I flew United Wednesday, and the miles have already posted on Delta.</font>True, but no bonus miles and no status miles, so you are better off posting the miles to MP instead. The only frill is RCC access based on DL PM status.

RCC access is for all CRC members, and DL PLT are all given CRC for free.

Also CRC access is granted to RCC members.

This is slightly off-topic. Does anyone know the latest news on the DL-CO code share agreement? I have plenty of DL miles, but the flight I want to take in May is on CO. Should I wait a little longer and hope the agreement goes thru so that I can use my DL miles, or just go ahead and purchase the CO ticket?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by bobmann:
This is slightly off-topic. Does anyone know the latest news on the DL-CO code share agreement?</font>Welcome to FlyerTalk. Yes, it is OT for this thread, but the latest information (http://www.delta.com/home/press/tacindex.jsp?file=800b0272_content.html) I'm familiar with has specified no dates.

I suggest you do a search (try keywords: Codeshare, alliance, CO, NW, DL and the airlines spelled out) both in MilesBuzz and the specific airlines forums.

Finally, be aware that CO is notorious for restricting seat availability for FF reward flights, so as to make getting a 25K flight quite difficult. You'll find lots on this in the CO forum.

[This message has been edited by Rut Dog (edited 02-24-2003).]