Las Vegas - has harrahs every had an accelerated promo for seven stars?

This past year I had close of 55,000 base credits (far short of 100,000 needed for seven stars.) I know that they have run diamond promos, from anyone's recollection have they had seven star promos?

I've never heard of any promotion for 7*, though, re-qualification (after you first qualify at 100,000 Base/Tier) is only 80,000 IIRC.

Personally, I think the 7* perks are quite weak when you consider it requires 10x more points than Diamond.

If your theo is good enough, there should be no reason that a high-Diamond wouldn't be treated just as well. Actually, so many things are based on theo --- much more so than your players card level. Of course, most 7* players naturally have a higher theoretical.

IMO, if you have a good host and are receiving the type of rooms/suites you desire with RFB or LFB; 7* doesn't really do much for you.

Of course, the best "deal" in casino-land is "just" making HET Diamond with 10,000 points (or, what I like to refer to as "Diamond-Lite") --- considering the perks and very small amount of play required (for a 12 month period) -- this is one of the best deals around.

I agree with bac_king, the 7* program definitely does not offer 10X the value.

Of course, the best "deal" in casino-land is "just" making HET Diamond with 10,000 points (or, what I like to refer to as "Diamond-Lite") --- considering the perks and very small amount of play required (for a 12 month period) -- this is one of the best deals around.

I'm shooting for an even easier Diamond promo, Diamond in a Day, which requires 3,000 earned points in a day.

Mike

I'm shooting for an even easier Diamond promo, Diamond in a Day, which requires 3,000 earned points in a day.

^^ Yep, that's how I originally made Diamond; unfortunately, that is a "one-time" status bump --- you need to get 10,000 base/tier the following year to re-qualify. [Though, very few have tested getting DIAD --- going back to base --- and then re-qualifying through DIAD; personally, I think it might work --- but, I prefer 10,000 base/tier over 12 months :D]

...I prefer 10,000 base/tier over 12 months :D]

which is really not that hard to do if you live nearby and can visit monthly. It's really only 850 points a month. I recently did 1,700 over a weekend at Paris, unfortunately I "paid" for most of it :(.

^^ Yep, that's how I originally made Diamond; unfortunately, that is a "one-time" status bump --- you need to get 10,000 base/tier the following year to re-qualify. [Though, very few have tested getting DIAD --- going back to base --- and then re-qualifying through DIAD; personally, I think it might work --- but, I prefer 10,000 base/tier over 12 months :D]

I didn't get a chance to make vegas at all last year so My DIA status expires this april. I'm hoping I can requal in January when i'm out for 5 days. I'll test your DIAD theory out - although i'm not back at base yet.

^^ Yep, that's how I originally made Diamond; unfortunately, that is a "one-time" status bump --- you need to get 10,000 base/tier the following year to re-qualify. [Though, very few have tested getting DIAD --- going back to base --- and then re-qualifying through DIAD; personally, I think it might work --- but, I prefer 10,000 base/tier over 12 months :D]

Is the drop from DIAD a hard or soft landing?

Mike

P.S. Sorry to the OP about hijacking your thread. I've never actually heard of a Seven Stars promo.

^^ Yep, that's how I originally made Diamond; unfortunately, that is a "one-time" status bump --- you need to get 10,000 base/tier the following year to re-qualify. [Though, very few have tested getting DIAD --- going back to base --- and then re-qualifying through DIAD; personally, I think it might work --- but, I prefer 10,000 base/tier over 12 months :D]

Talking to the Diamond desk at the Flamingo they said even though I was Diamond I could requalify for this year doing the DIAD promo (3k points) in a day. I never got that high though - although I earned 8,500 tier points over the 4 day weekend. I'll get the other 1500 - well 2500 now on a small trip to Cherokee or Miss. before I run to vegas again..

Is the drop from DIAD a hard or soft landing

Hard, Diamond to Gold --- but, Platinum doesn't really provide any [well, minor] benefit.

I've never actually heard of a Seven Stars promo.

No, there isn't -- and other then the lower "re-qualification" which, IIRC, is 85,000 Tier instead of 100,000 Tier there are no promos.

Personally, for what you get, 7* isn't really that special. As we know, this isn't like the airline programs. A high Diamond (say 50,000 Tier) will be treated much better than a low (or lite) Diamond who makes only 10,000 Tier in a year. A vast majority of your [additional] benefit, is determined by you theoretical loss (ADT) to the casinos. So, those with higher theoretical loss will be first to get the suite upgrades, RFB/LFB, the best invitations to tourneys and gift card events, and more discretionary comps.

Talking to the Diamond desk at the Flamingo they said even though I was Diamond I could requalify for this year doing the DIAD promo (3k points) in a day. I never got that high though - although I earned 8,500 tier points over the 4 day weekend. I'll get the other 1500 - well 2500 now on a small trip to Cherokee or Miss. before I run to vegas again..

This is interesting, but, HET is known for employees not giving a straight (and consistent) answer. But, if I was quoted that by an employee --- I would consider the re-qualification at that time --- since you could go back to that employee at the TR desk and have them process the Diamond extension.

Very interesting data-point, jfulcher :D

This is interesting, but, HET is known for employees not giving a straight (and consistent) answer. But, if I was quoted that by an employee --- I would consider the re-qualification at that time --- since you could go back to that employee at the TR desk and have them process the Diamond extension.

Very interesting data-point, jfulcher :D

I thought about going on a run and trying to earn the small amount of additional points, but I knew based on my average at that point when I asked I would be close anyway. Although I came back here and found out qualification is at 11k! Hah!

You would have enjoyed one of the sessions of Baccarat I played though - 17 banker hands in a row. I paid a rather large commission but it was a very good shoe.. ;)

I thought about going on a run and trying to earn the small amount of additional points, but I knew based on my average at that point when I asked I would be close anyway. Although I came back here and found out qualification is at 11k! Hah!

You would have enjoyed one of the sessions of Baccarat I played though - 17 banker hands in a row. I paid a rather large commission but it was a very good shoe.. ;)

WOW ! WOW ! WOW ! ^^^^

The most I've ever had was 13 hands in a row (also, a few 11's and lots [well, not really lots ;)] of 8's, 9's). I sure hope you were aggressively chipping up your bets at that point. :D That might very well, be a "once in a lifetime" opportunity. I tend to be too conservative, but after the 10th or 11th in a row (which, as we know is such a rare opportunity) -- I'm "usually" up to around $500 per hand.

WOW ! WOW ! WOW ! ^^^^

The most I've ever had was 13 hands in a row (also, a few 11's and lots [well, not really lots ;)] of 8's, 9's). I sure hope you were aggressively chipping up your bets at that point. :D That might very well, be a "once in a lifetime" opportunity. I tend to be too conservative, but after the 10th or 11th in a row (which, as we know is such a rare opportunity) -- I'm "usually" up to around $500 per hand.

Yep and I got up after it broke.. :) My friends were all standing around watching me bet what they brought to gamble with in a day and cringing.. :) I'll admit I did try to wrestle it the other way twice though based on the initial trend of 4-5.. I well made up for it though! What's surprising though is I think the pit boss didn't rate me too well even though I was risking a lot during this session. I have yet to figure out their system there. I kind of figured for sure that session would put me over 3k a day easy.

I think the bosses were too busy watching the guy at the end of the table betting max bet ($5k) each time. They normally don't stock yellow chips at the flamingo mini-bac tables but they brought 40k in yellow 3 times just for that guy. He tried to get them to bump up the max, but they wouldn't do it.

Hard, Diamond to Gold --- but, Platinum doesn't really provide any [well, minor] benefit.

I dunno about no benefits - I've been able to book plenty of comped nights through HET and I'm only Platinum.:D

I dunno about no benefits - I've been able to book plenty of comped nights through HET and I'm only Platinum.:D

FWIW, tier has little to do with your ability to book COMP rooms. Room comps are based "primarily" on your theoretical loss. Of course, those in the higher tiers tend to have a higher theo, and therefore get more comp rooms.

So, a person with the same theoretical [as a Platinum] who is 500 points below Platinum (and still a Gold) would have access to the same comp rooms (and would probably get the same cash, spa, and tournament offers).

The difference between Gold and Platinum is minimal (discounts at some spas, dedicated lines for restaurants/check-in); and not even worth worrying about, IMO.

FWIW, tier has little to do with your ability to book COMP rooms. Room comps are based "primarily" on your theoretical loss. Of course, those in the higher tiers tend to have a higher theo, and therefore get more comp rooms.

So, a person with the same theoretical [as a Platinum] who is 500 points below Platinum (and still a Gold) would have access to the same comp rooms (and would probably get the same cash, spa, and tournament offers).

Yeah, that's the problem with Harrah's. They are so good at determining theo that the equivalent of a mileage run is much more difficult.

Mike

FWIW, tier has little to do with your ability to book COMP rooms. Room comps are based "primarily" on your theoretical loss. Of course, those in the higher tiers tend to have a higher theo, and therefore get more comp rooms.

So, a person with the same theoretical [as a Platinum] who is 500 points below Platinum (and still a Gold) would have access to the same comp rooms (and would probably get the same cash, spa, and tournament offers).

The difference between Gold and Platinum is minimal (discounts at some spas, dedicated lines for restaurants/check-in); and not even worth worrying about, IMO.

But if you're close between Gold and Platinum, I really do think Platinum can make a difference. The much shorter lines have made a difference for me when checking in at busy times and bypassing a recent horrendous buffet line at Paris. Sure, I'd rather make Diamond - in fact, last year I was in the abyss between the two (more like 7,000 credits or so; kind of a waste, huh?). But I have found Platinum to provide a few nice perks. Also, at least at the Flamingo, I've been lucky with some nice room upgrades even on comped stays (seen two different 'Go' rooms this way when I had just booked a standard).