I guess the MR is so desperate for business, that they are selling one day passes for $9.00. Since the oneway fare is $5.00, if you take two trips in a day the pass is the better deal.
They also have a 3 day unlimited pass at a discount--but buying 3 one day passes at $9/day is cheaper.
Note: the MR is not convenient for traveling between casinos on the route--but is very convenient for getting to the convention center; and with CES starting next week this promo is a big plus.^
Palal
Jan 6, 08, 3:26 pm
The MR is a big joke.... their prices are overinflated. $9 for a one day pass is reasonable. I just wish they'd extend it to the Airport. I'm sure the cabbies will be "happy" though.
kingalien
Jan 6, 08, 4:28 pm
Even the one day passes are expensive. The monorail will die a slow death.
nrr
Jan 6, 08, 5:49 pm
The MR is a big joke.... their prices are overinflated. $9 for a one day pass is reasonable. I just wish they'd extend it to the Airport. I'm sure the cabbies will be "happy" though.
Even if the MR were extended to the airport, people will still take cabs, since the walking distance from the MR stop to the check in desk is several blocks (in most cases); carrying luggage would be a pain. But for those on a tight budget the MR would be convenient.
DenverBrian
Jan 6, 08, 6:22 pm
I guess the MR is so desperate for business, that they are selling one day passes for $9.00. Since the oneway fare is $5.00, if you take two trips in a day the pass is the better deal.
They also have a 3 day unlimited pass at a discount--but buying 3 one day passes at $9/day is cheaper.
Note: the MR is not convenient for traveling between casinos on the route--but is very convenient for getting to the convention center; and with CES starting next week this promo is a big plus.^
What makes you think the promo will still be alive next week?
kaukau
Jan 6, 08, 6:23 pm
Even if the MR were extended to the airport, people will still take cabs, since the walking distance from the MR stop to the check in desk is several blocks (in most cases); carrying luggage would be a pain. But for those on a tight budget the MR would be convenient.
Good points. And with more than two pax, a cab can be as cheap/cheaper than the monorail. But the luggage issue is well taken. It's well worth a few bucks more to have a cab drop you off at the front entrance/check-in desk.
nrr
Jan 7, 08, 8:02 am
What makes you think the promo will still be alive next week?
I just checked the monorail home page and the $9 day pass is still listed.
[I come to LAS often and bought a few day passes in advance just to play it safe--they are valid for one year from the purchase date...:)]
PS: Will the MR still be running a year from now is a different issue.
marcvh
Jan 7, 08, 5:56 pm
Even if the MR were extended to the airport, people will still take cabs, since the walking distance from the MR stop to the check in desk is several blocks (in most cases); carrying luggage would be a pain. But for those on a tight budget the MR would be convenient.
Yep, it wouldn't make sense for people with a lot of luggage, but people who travel light (and there are a lot of us) would find it a win. I'd rather deal with the walk than the hassle and uncertainty of a lengthy taxi queue and traffic. And really, once you've been to Vegas five or ten times, you know how much stuff you actually need to bring (lip balm, clean underwear, and lots of cash.)
Some hotels (like the Flamingo) have check-in pretty darn close to the monorail already, and those that are a little further out (like the Venetian) could easily put an additional bell desk at the monorail station if the demand were there. Dunno if it would be.
kingalien
Jan 7, 08, 7:08 pm
...And really, once you've been to Vegas five or ten times, you know how much stuff you actually need to bring (lip balm, clean underwear, and lots of cash.)
:eek: I've never thought of that.
:D
DenverBrian
Jan 9, 08, 5:39 pm
Sure enough, the monorail is $9 for a day pass even during CES. Methinks that was a lot of lost revenue this week. The monorail is full but not crowded.
CES is also full but not crowded, with nothing really "sexy" so far to see. I mean, how many years in a row can Panasonic roll out the "biggest ever" plasma screen?
TravelScholar
Jan 9, 08, 10:44 pm
Sure enough, the monorail is $9 for a day pass even during CES. Methinks that was a lot of lost revenue this week. The monorail is full but not crowded.
CES is also full but not crowded, with nothing really "sexy" so far to see. I mean, how many years in a row can Panasonic roll out the "biggest ever" plasma screen?
I was also fairly unimpressed. The superthin LCD displays that Samsung had were pretty cool, though. In my opinion, the thin screens were more impressive than the 150" ones!
BTW, at the end of day one, my friend and I were one of VERY few people who figured out you could take the monorail northbound to the Hilton, cross the platform, and board a nearly empty southbound train, rather than waiting in line for the southbound train at the convention centre.
Also, the $1 each way price for locals is sweet!
kingalien
Jan 10, 08, 12:14 am
I mean, how many years in a row can Panasonic roll out the "biggest ever" plasma screen?
I thought they debuted a 150 inch plasma didn't they? Did they play something from the AVN awards on it? :p
DenverBrian
Jan 10, 08, 10:16 am
I thought they debuted a 150 inch plasma didn't they? Did they play something from the AVN awards on it? :p
They did. And last year it was a 108" plasma. And the year before that it was a 96" plasma. Next year I'm breathless to see the 200" plasma. Yawn.
nrr
Jan 10, 08, 11:52 am
They did. And last year it was a 108" plasma. And the year before that it was a 96" plasma. Next year I'm breathless to see the 200" plasma. Yawn.
The 150" is a gigantic screen--how many walls (or rooms) could accomodate this years' monster? 200" nearly 16' would not fit into most doors (or windows); you would probably need a special building just to house it!
Beckles
Jan 10, 08, 3:42 pm
Even if the MR were extended to the airport, people will still take cabs, since the walking distance from the MR stop to the check in desk is several blocks (in most cases); carrying luggage would be a pain. But for those on a tight budget the MR would be convenient.If the MR were extended to the airport I'm sure some of the hotels with stops would build check-in facilities near the MR station since it would result in many more guests arriving at the hotel via MR.
ediddy
Jan 12, 08, 9:18 am
They're about to default on the bonds as well. What a waste of $650M. Only good thing is no public money was spent. Hopefully this will be a lesson to other cities that just because you build it, they will not ride it.
biggestbopper
Jan 12, 08, 9:27 am
IMHO, the lesson may be, don't let big business decide on the routing of public transit.
Too bad the monorail wasn't placed a little closer to where people want to go.
DenverBrian
Jan 12, 08, 6:22 pm
The only real mass transit solution that might work in LV would be a subway directly under the Strip. Amazingly, Las Vegas might be the one modern city that could afford such a project - a little more vigorish from the casino owners and voila!
ediddy
Jan 12, 08, 8:35 pm
Why is it /people assume LV has all this money to burn? Nevada is in deep doo-doo right now financially, with budget cuts coming and big ones at that. The housing crash has slashed tax revenues significantly and unemployment is at the worst level since 2001. Last thing needed is another mass transit boondoggle.
Casinos didn't build the casino, they know better than making such an unwise investment.
Las Vegas doesn't need a subway. Tourists won't use it and locals have no need for it. Las Vegas is not your typical city where people live in the suburbs and work downtown. People live all over and work all over. A subway system would be useless unless it consisted of 5 or 6 lines criss crossing the city. And even then when it's 115, unless the subway is next to your house, nobody will walk more than 2 minutes to or from a station.
DenverBrian
Jan 12, 08, 11:12 pm
Why is it /people assume LV has all this money to burn? Nevada is in deep doo-doo right now financially, with budget cuts coming and big ones at that. The housing crash has slashed tax revenues significantly and unemployment is at the worst level since 2001. Last thing needed is another mass transit boondoggle.
Casinos didn't build the casino, they know better than making such an unwise investment.
Las Vegas doesn't need a subway. Tourists won't use it and locals have no need for it. Las Vegas is not your typical city where people live in the suburbs and work downtown. People live all over and work all over. A subway system would be useless unless it consisted of 5 or 6 lines criss crossing the city. And even then when it's 115, unless the subway is next to your house, nobody will walk more than 2 minutes to or from a station.
Remain calm. It was a bit of hyperbole.
Besides, if LV's in a crisis, what are all those cranes doing building City Center...and Trump Tower...and Encore...and Fountainbleau? Methinks there will be a couple of jobs to be had there.
Not really a subway...more of a glorified bus, as far as I can tell.
ediddy
Jan 13, 08, 12:47 pm
Remain calm. It was a bit of hyperbole.
Besides, if LV's in a crisis, what are all those cranes doing building City Center...and Trump Tower...and Encore...and Fountainbleau? Methinks there will be a couple of jobs to be had there.
Think what you will. I'm telling you how it is. Actually I'm only relaying information that is already there. The state is in a recession right now. The 2000s economy was based on 2 things. Gaming and building houses. The build, buy, flip houses game is over and with it is the free flowing money and tax revenues. Gaming is hanging on barely and will decline subtantially as the rest of the country enters recession.
The Empire State Building was built at the height of the depression. And then sat empty for 15 years.
By Alexandra Berzon - Las Vegas Sun
12/31/07
LAS VEGAS – The winner of the latest installment of the reality TV show “The Apprentice,” Stefanie Schaeffer, is facing a challenge that surpasses anything made for television.
Schaeffer, a former attorney, was recently installed as marketing director overseeing sales for Donald Trump’s Vegas condo and hotel, set to soon open its first 64-story, 1,282-unit luxury tower – complete with a marble-filled lobby, plasma screens inside the bathroom mirrors, valets with white gloves and a golden glass exterior. But real estate agents say timing couldn’t be worse.
High-rise luxury condo prices are way down in Las Vegas, reflecting local and national housing trends. The boom times of the past few years, when developers flamboyantly announced one high-rise project after another and talked of Las Vegas as the next Manhattan, ended with a thud this year. Local observers say that as Trump pushes to close on units, a reckoning may come for the new concept of luxury Vegas high-rises.
Beckles
Jan 15, 08, 10:01 am
They're about to default on the bonds as well. What a waste of $650M. Only good thing is no public money was spent. Hopefully this will be a lesson to other cities that just because you build it, they will not ride it.Defaulting on the bonds is probably the best thing that could happen, maybe then someone would buy the assets for pennies on the dollar and can make it work with reasonable fares.
Not really a subway...more of a glorified bus, as far as I can tell.When I lived in Charlotte, NC they were looking at this and it basically cost half as much as light rail to build dedicated bus lanes with rail like stations and rail like speed, yet the citizens didn't want it. Your typical middle class family does not have an issue with riding a train to work every day, but don't dare ask them to ride a bus!
gomike
Jan 16, 08, 11:06 am
What I would like to see happen is have the strip closed to all traffic and used only for walking and put a free train/monorail in the middle of the strip that starts at the airport and ends at the convention center, i would also like to see the current MR extended to the airport which would give people going to the convention center a quicker ride than the one down the middle of the strip.
Paolo01
Jan 16, 08, 11:48 pm
What I would like to see happen is have the strip closed to all traffic and used only for walking and put a free train/monorail in the middle of the strip that starts at the airport and ends at the convention center, i would also like to see the current MR extended to the airport which would give people going to the convention center a quicker ride than the one down the middle of the strip.
Big ^^ to closing off the strip to traffic outside of pedestrian and a dedicated mass transit line.
Will NEVER happen. (though I hope it does)
As for the current Monorail heading to the airport, I THINK that there are far too many issues involved to ever see this happen. For one the taxi owners union seems to have a lock on routes and such of conveyance in and around the city.
I wish I knew the history of how and why the MR was built how it was. I am sure that would make a fascinating case study.
kingalien
Jan 17, 08, 10:13 am
Big ^^ to closing off the strip to traffic outside of pedestrian and a dedicated mass transit line.
Never will happen ;).
I wish I knew the history of how and why the MR was built how it was. I am sure that would make a fascinating case study.
Big ideas, lots of money; poor planning and execution. Oh, lest we forget that ultimately the casinos don't want anyone to have easy access to leave their property.
gomike
Jan 18, 08, 3:05 am
Never will happen ;).
That is probably what they were saying about Fremont street many years ago.