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ZbadhabitZ
Dec 9, 07, 7:18 pm
Hi all! I'm headed to Vegas in about two weeks, and wanted to get some input on clubs. I'm not a huge club person, but going with a few others who are celebrating their 21st, and was looking for advice on where to go. The only clubs I know of are ones like Pure, LAX, Tryst, and Tao (just places I've read about in magazines). For a younger group, best recommendations? Plan to use AMEX concierge to see if we can get on a guest-list, I'm not one for waiting in lines/paying a cover/doing table service. Thanks!


baccarat_king
Dec 9, 07, 7:36 pm
Plan to use AMEX concierge to see if we can get on a guest-list, I'm not one for waiting in lines/paying a cover/doing table service. Thanks!

Unless you are an attractive chick (for lack of a better term) --- or will have many attractive and well dressed ladies with your party --- you better plan on parting with some skrilla if you desire to enter any hot club right away. ;) IMO, Amex Concierge and guest list for a bunch of guys --- will be of minimal assistance, of course, YMMV. :D

I've never had any issues --- and I never had to use any concierge service --- but, I do know how to tip properly; and am often in the company of those who also know how to make sure things go very smoothly. :D

BTW, I really like LAX. ^

busy
Dec 10, 07, 12:28 am
Unless your at the Four Seasons or Skylofts you are going to have trouble with a list of guys. You may want to break your party up into groups of two and ask your hotel conceirge to help if your at one of the nicer hotels. Bottle service is typically one per four ppl but that get expensive. Tryst is my favorite club. LAX is cool but at any of the Pure group clubs you will want a table. Ive had fun without a table at Tryst and Tao is OK without one if you can get in they require one girl for every guy in your group.


ZbadhabitZ
Dec 10, 07, 12:31 am
Thanks for the info. I do plan to be with a group of young ladies, so that part shouldn't be an issue. I'm actually curious to know, have you ever had any experience using a concierge at all with Vegas clubs? I'd have to be under the impression if I used a PLAT or CENT concierge, regardless of who I was with, I wouldn't straight be turned away from the door. I imagine I'd be put in touch with a contact, right? Like I said, not a club person, so it's good for future reference. Thanks!

busy
Dec 10, 07, 1:10 pm
High end hotel ie FSHR or Skylofts will work AMEX might get you on a guest list which has 200 other "VIPs" in it. The Four Seasons will give you a hosts cell phone and get you in. In all seriousness if you tell the door your on the list via your platinum card they are not going to care. Entrance to clubs is based on true vip status (big player/celebrity/big spender), then casino guest AND equally guests referred by hotels that have good concierge (the high end hotels send alot of high spending tables). If you want VIP treatment and you need to probably get a table and its better to let a good concierge set it up for you.

ZbadhabitZ
Dec 10, 07, 7:53 pm
Thanks for the info, busy. Appreciate the insight. Now, are you basing this off of personal experience, or just logic? Obviously Skylofts/FS/or any host will likely be able to allow easy access to any club. But have you ever used a Platinum or Centurion concierge from AMEX to gain entry? I have to imagine CENT concierges would have just as much pull as any host or concierge. PLAT might not be at the top of the chain, but they should still have some pull.

At this point I ask simply out of reference, I got my answer to the question and I'm happy. For future posters, this might serve as a valuable resource.

opus17
Dec 10, 07, 11:22 pm
Thanks for the info, busy. Appreciate the insight. Now, are you basing this off of personal experience, or just logic? Obviously Skylofts/FS/or any host will likely be able to allow easy access to any club. But have you ever used a Platinum or Centurion concierge from AMEX to gain entry? I have to imagine CENT concierges would have just as much pull as any host or concierge. PLAT might not be at the top of the chain, but they should still have some pull.

At this point I ask simply out of reference, I got my answer to the question and I'm happy. For future posters, this might serve as a valuable resource.

No one in Las Vegas has as much pull as Benjamin Franklin.

jcherney
Dec 10, 07, 11:35 pm
If you have an Amex Plat card, use it. My son did so for one of the busiest celeb weekends in Vegas-the VMA awards weekend. The Plat concierge gave him the cell phone numbers of the club host. He was with all guys (6) except for 1 girl (it was her 21st birthday also). Got into LAX, Tryst, and Body English without any problems at all and had a great time. I joined them at Tryst for an hour or so just to see the place. It's really quite a sight.

busy
Dec 11, 07, 12:39 am
A host is definately going to expect a tip for that. I've not used my AMEX concierge for this. In my experience both the Skylofts and FS have come through though Skylofts are better as there is no guest list at Tryst on Sat. but there host walked us in and send a tip was not necessary (very suprised). The Wynn's own concierge were not able to do that (VIP could help of course if you were qualified). In my opinion the clubs for the most part are not very impressed by your Platinum card given most of the people sitting at there tables are using one to pay there $1000++ tabs. It seems that some may have had a good contact but, where are you staying if I can ask.

ZbadhabitZ
Dec 11, 07, 9:22 am
Again, appreciate the information to all. Will be staying at TheHotel. Wanted to do Skylofts, but for the few nights I'm going to be there, it would have just cost way too much, which pains me to say as I absolutely love the Skylofts. Was considering Wynn, but it doesn't come with the $100 spa credit like TheHotel does, and frankly I would much rather have a massage than a free lunch. Agree with your statement that most clubs wouldn't be impressed with a PLAT card, but more the fact that most PLAT card members probably wouldn't call their concierge to try to gain access. And those who do, likely would be given a contact so the bouncer out front really wouldn't know whether you had a contact inside because of a hotel concierge, AMEX concierge, etc. That's just my take. Kind of the same with a CENT card, just flashing one isn't going to get you far (will probably get you further than the PLAT card), but making the call to a concierge might get a name and phone number. Either way, I'll report back to keep you all updated on my progress, I'm sure I'm not the only one who will have this question in the future.

baccarat_king
Dec 11, 07, 11:02 am
No one in Las Vegas has as much pull as Benjamin Franklin.

^^ or to quote Mayweather :

I don't need no f'in black card --- cash gets the job done.

I'm not one for waiting in lines/paying a cover/doing table service.

ZbadhabitZ nothing personal, but, visiting these clubs is basically a $$$ drain. It is not meant to be fiscally reasonable. ;) The cover charge, et al, is the least of your worries --- with regard to $$$ -- unless, you plan on entering the club and not having anything to drink.

I often say that visiting a club is much worse than gambling with regard to $$$$ --- since there is no possible expectation of actually ending up with the same or more money.

I think if you go with the expectation of blowing $$$ for "an experience" you will come away happy. If you are worried about the $$$ --- then that would probably take away from the experience, and I would strongly suggest you find another venue of entertainment. If you are a group of more than 4, bottle service would probably be the best way to enjoy any of the clubs (especially, if you plan on all having at least 2-4 drinks each) Just my 2 cents. :D

ZbadhabitZ
Dec 11, 07, 1:22 pm
Thanks, bacarrat_king. Truth be told, I don't drink alcohol. So actually, the club is not going to be a $ drain for me. Usually I only attend clubs for work reasons, and in those cases I go in with people I work with and am taken care of without having to pay any covers or pay people off to get in. Since I'm headed out just with friends, I don't have that luxury, as I don't know any Vegas club people. I'll report back on my successes, but appreciate all the help given here.

aceman
Dec 20, 07, 1:08 am
Basically I wouldnt waste your time with messing around with concierge lines etc, they mean nothing in Vegas, unless you're a centurion holder booking a table and pointing out that you're going to be buying 20 bottles of cristal.

If you're not one for waiting in line or table service, take $50 from everyone in your group walk to the front and bribe the guy, or you'll rather rapidly discover you are one for waiting in line.

Weekend do Tao/Pure/LAX.

ZbadhabitZ
Dec 20, 07, 1:48 pm
As an update, just got back from Vegas. Decided on doing Tryst and Pure. Called AMEX concierge, who with no problem had me put on guest-list at Pure and was unable to do guest-list at Tryst (it was literally like an hour before I was to arrive, so no surprise. They said that Tryst doesn't do guestlists, which turned out to be false because when I arrived the bouncer asked if I was on the guestlist). Anyway, neither club really had any line at all, so the whole guestlist thing ended up being pointless. Never ended up having to pay cover at either club, Tryst was kind of deserted and doing a retro night, which seemed to have brought out a number of more adult guests. Beautiful club, though. Headed to Pure which also had no wait (bouncers were so much nicer at Pure), told the bouncer I was on the guestlist hoping it would get me a little extra attention but he told me not to worry so there was no wait anyway. Very much enjoyed this club. As I previously posted, don't drink alcohol so the whole night I spent a total of $20, $7 of which was on a bottle of water and the other $13 was a tip to the bartender who let me skip the line to order.

Very fun, and will definitely like to try the concierge thing out again on a more crowded night to see if they are successful. And by the way, aceman, what did you mean that concierge lines mean nothing in Vegas? How could that be the case given if you're put on a guestlist somewhere? Thanks to all!

aceman
Dec 20, 07, 3:54 pm
because if you go any other week then this/last week which are the slowest in vegas you'll find 5000 other people who are also on the guest list pushing and elbowing each other out of the way in front of the club trying to get in, making the whole thing rather pointless -and as you said, they didnt even know there was a list for Tryst. Try going to Pure/LAX during march madness/spring break/st patricks day weekend and you'll see what I mean.

Great result overall though.

ZbadhabitZ
Dec 20, 07, 5:10 pm
because if you go any other week then this/last week which are the slowest in vegas you'll find 5000 other people who are also on the guest list pushing and elbowing each other out of the way in front of the club trying to get in, making the whole thing rather pointless -and as you said, they didnt even know there was a list for Tryst. Try going to Pure/LAX during march madness/spring break/st patricks day weekend and you'll see what I mean.

Great result overall though.

Gotcha, thanks for that heads up. Will keep that in mind if I do go to Vegas on a busier night. A previous poster had mentioned that when they called Amex, they were given a contact name/number to call once they arrived at the club, whom they contacted upon their arrival and were escorted in. This wasn't mentioned to me but if I do know I'm going on a busier night, I might push the issue to have something like that done.

By the way, what's the deal with those "VIP" cards that people are handing out on the strip? Why couldn't I just grab one of those and head straight to the front of the line, and not even pay cover?

ediddy
Dec 20, 07, 9:34 pm
No one in Las Vegas has as much pull as Benjamin Franklin.

Ding Ding Ding!

That or if you are a guy, find 2 really good looking women and it's as good.



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