Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners) - Sub-€2000 flexible D fares IST- EZE/SCL!




graraps
Dec 5, 07, 10:08 am
Near enough fully flexible (free cxl/chg, unltd free stopovers without HIP check, no min stay, 12 mths max), LH has by far the best biz fare from Europe to Chile and one of the best to EZE.
That's a saving of about €5000 compared to flexible German fares. :eek:
LX offers an even cheaper (around €1500!), but not as flexible, "companion" fare to SCL. Can't remember any carriers ever offering anything as low on this ultra-longhaul route.
If anyone needs a quick MR, you know what to do. :D


whiskey_sk
Dec 5, 07, 11:04 am
Near enough fully flexible (free cxl/chg, unltd free stopovers without HIP check, no min stay, 12 mths max), LH has by far the best biz fare from Europe to Chile and one of the best to EZE.
That's a saving of about €5000 compared to flexible German fares. :eek:
LX offers an even cheaper (around €1500!), but not as flexible, "companion" fare to SCL. Can't remember any carriers ever offering anything as low on this ultra-longhaul route.
If anyone needs a quick MR, you know what to do. :D

and where did you find that? Are you sure it is IST and not BEY?

CubaLibre
Dec 5, 07, 11:06 am
where can I book it?


yapak2
Dec 5, 07, 11:19 am
Near enough fully flexible (free cxl/chg, unltd free stopovers without HIP check, no min stay, 12 mths max), LH has by far the best biz fare from Europe to Chile and one of the best to EZE.
That's a saving of about €5000 compared to flexible German fares. :eek:
LX offers an even cheaper (around €1500!), but not as flexible, "companion" fare to SCL. Can't remember any carriers ever offering anything as low on this ultra-longhaul route.
If anyone needs a quick MR, you know what to do. :D

graraps, what travel period are you referring to? I just checked fares in a GDS and nothing like that came up for IST... for reference here are a few screenshots from ATH, BEY, TUN and TIP to SCL, all cheaper, at least for departures Jan 12th, which is what I checked.

LH ISTSCL.AT 12JAN08 MPM 10033
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
7 ZFFBTR Z‡R 2700.00 ---- 3/3 -/12M AT02
8 DFFATR D‡R 3650.00 ---- - -/12M AT02
9 DFFOTR D‡O 2008.00 ---- - -/ - AT02
10 YR Y‡R 7696.00 ---- - -/12M AT03‡
ATHSCL
8 ZFFBGG Z‡R 2050.00 ---- - -/12M AT02
9 DFFAGG D‡R 3450.00 ---- - -/12M AT02
10 DFFOGG D‡O 1898.00 ---- - -/12M AT02
LH BEYSCL.AT 12JAN08 MPM 10640
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
5 ZRFBLB Z‡R 1561.00 ---- -/3 2/ 4M AT01
6 ZRFALB Z‡R 2240.00 ---- -/3 2/ 6M AT01
7 ZRFAOWLB Z‡O 1222.00 ---- -/3 -/ - AT01
8 DFFLB D‡R 2987.00 ---- - -/12M AT01
9 YR Y‡R 5376.00 ---- - -/12M AT02
LH TUNSCL.AT 12JAN08 MPM 8934
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
6 ZFFTN Z‡R 2047.00 ---- - -/ 6M AT01
7 DFFTN D‡R 3231.00 ---- - -/ AT01
8 CFFTN C‡R 4567.00 ---- - -/ AT01
9 CFFOWTN C‡O 3654.00 ---- - -/ AT01‡
LH TIPSCL.AT 12JAN08 MPM 9288
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG

4 ZFFLY Z‡R 1434.00 ---- - -/ AT01
5 ZFFOLY Z‡O 797.00 ---- - -/ - AT01

Happy flying,
yapak2

graraps
Dec 5, 07, 11:26 am
Found on Zuji.
Fare rules here:

Fare details for DFFATR


BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS

FLEXIBLE BUSINESS FARE FROM TURKEY TO SOUTH AMERICA APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM TURKEY TO SOUTH AMERICA. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST JUDGEMENT. OTHER CONDITIONS PASSENGER EXPENSES ARE NOT PERMITTED.



ELIGIBILITY

NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



DAY/TIME

NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



SEASONALITY

NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



FLIGHT APPLICATION

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1 ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.



ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING

CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.



MINIMUM STAY

NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



MAXIMUM STAY

TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. IF DESIRED RETURN FLIGHT CANNOT BE BOOKED AS DATE IS OUTSIDE SYSTEM BOOKING RANGE OF 360 DAYS IN ADVANCE AN ALTERNATIVE FLIGHT MUST BE BOOKED FOR TICKET ISSUANCE.ANY LATER REBOOKING TO DESIRED DATE -WITHIN MAXIMUM VALIDITY- IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF PERMITTED BY FARE NOTE AND REQUIRES REBOOKING FEE IF APPLICABLE.



STOPOVERS

UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.



TRANSFERS

3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 2 PERMITTED IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION 1 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. OR - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 3 PERMITTED IN GERMANY IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.



COMBINATIONS

ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN SEGMENT. -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY C-/D-/Z- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATL. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY C-/D-/J- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER OS/SK IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATL. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY C-/D-/Z- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER LH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATL.



BLACKOUT DATES

NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.



SURCHARGES

THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN COLOMBIA/MEXICO/COSTA RICA/ GUATEMALA/HONDURAS/NICARAGUA/PANAMA/EL SALVADOR/BELIZE/ ARGENTINA/PERU/URUGUAY. FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 107.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN COLOMBIA/ MEXICO/ COSTA RICA/ GUATEMALA/ HONDURAS/ NICARAGUA/ PANAMA/ EL SALVADOR/ BELIZE/ ARGENTINA/ PERU/ URUGUAY.



ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL

IF 1ST COMPANION PSGR. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY AN ADULT PSGR. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. IF 1ST COMPANION MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY AN ADULT. --------------------------------------- NOTE- ANY OTHER ADULT COMPANION NOT PERMITTED.FBC IN TICKET MUST BE ISSUED WITH FTE-CP.



TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01APR06.



SALES RESTRICTIONS

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01APR06.



PENALTIES

CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. REFUND THE FARE PAID LESS THE APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE FOR THE SECTOR ALREADY TRAVELLED. --------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED FEES AND TAXES PERMITTED. --------------------- CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CHANGES PERMITTED FOR UPGRADE. -------- CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY. -------- REBOOKING/REISSUE/UPGRADE/MOC ISSUANCE MUST BE MADE IN ONE TRANSACTION BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED PROVIDED ALL FARE CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIED WITH INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE CONDITION. -------- UPGRADE PERMITTED TO ANY HIGHER APPLICABLE FARE PROVIDED ALL FARE CONDITIONS INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE ARE COMPLIED WITH. AFTER DEPARTURE CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CHANGES PERMITTED FOR UPGRADE. -------- CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY. -------- REBOOKING/REISSUE/UPGRADE/MCO ISSUANCE MUST BE MADE IN ONE TRANSACTION BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED PROVIDED ALL FARE CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIED WITH EXCEPT. IN CASE OF REBOOKING ADVANCE PURCHASE CONDITION CAN BE IGNORED. -------- UPGRADE PERMITTED TO ANY HIGHER APPLICABLE FARE PROVIDED ALL FARE CONDITIONS EXCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE ARE COMPLIED WITH.



HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS

NOTE - HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINTS MAY BE IGNORED .



TICKET ENDORSEMENTS

THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - CHG BA FOC/ CNX BA FOC - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. TICKET MUST BE SHOW BY THE USE OF AN INSERT OR STICKER THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND SUBJECT TO SPECIAL CONDITIONS.



CHILDREN DISCOUNTS

NO DISCOUNTS FOR CHILDREN/INFANTS.



TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS

NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.



AGENT DISCOUNTS

NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.



ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS

1ST CMP/COMPANION PSGR - THE FARE WAS CALCULATED AS 50 PERCENT OF THE ADT PSGR TYPE ROUND-TRIP DFFATR FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR.



MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

NO PROVISIONS APPLY.



FARE BY RULE

NOT APPLICABLE.



GROUPS

NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.



TOURS

NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.



VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY

NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.



DEPOSITS

NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.



NEGOTIATED FARES

NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE


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graraps
Dec 5, 07, 11:27 am
And this is the LX fare IST-SCL

Fare details for DDUOCNTR


BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS

BUSINESS CLASS COMPANION FARES BETWEEN TURKEY AND SOUTH AMERICA. APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN TURKEY AND AREA 1. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THESE FARES SHALL APPLY ONLY WHEN TICKETS ARE PURCHASED AT SUCH FARES PRIOR TO DEPARTURE. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST JUDGEMENT. OTHER CONDITIONS FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/ IS NOT VALID IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/.



ELIGIBILITY

VALID FOR ADULT WITH COMPANION PSGR.



DAY/TIME

NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



SEASONALITY

NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



FLIGHT APPLICATION

NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING

NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE . THE MORE RESTICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES. MANUALLY ENTERED TICKET NUMBERS MUST ALWAYS BE IN SSR ITEM OR ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT GDS SPECIFICATIONS.



MINIMUM STAY

NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



MAXIMUM STAY

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.



STOPOVERS

NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.



TRANSFERS

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED.



COMBINATIONS

END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/ CIRCLE TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE OF THE SAME FARE TYPE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATL. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY C-/D-/Z- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER LH IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.



BLACKOUT DATES

NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.



SURCHARGES

NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL

MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY A COMPANION PSGR IN -CP TYPE FARE CLASS.



TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01APR07.



SALES RESTRICTIONS

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01MAR07.



PENALTIES

CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED.



HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS

THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.



TICKET ENDORSEMENTS

TICKET ENDORSEMENT NOT REQUIRED.



CHILDREN DISCOUNTS

CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO DISCOUNT. OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO DISCOUNT. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - NO DISCOUNT.



TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS

NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO DISCOUNTS APPLY.



AGENT DISCOUNTS

NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO DISCOUNTS APPLY.



ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS

NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.



MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL.



FARE BY RULE

NOT APPLICABLE.



GROUPS

NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.



TOURS

NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.



VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY

NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.



DEPOSITS

NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.



NEGOTIATED FARES

NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

graraps
Dec 5, 07, 11:30 am
LX IST-SCL : SGD 3351
LH IST-SCL : SGD 3893
LH IST-EZE : SGD 3733

(these are net fares before taxes/surcharges/fees)

CubaLibre
Dec 5, 07, 1:49 pm
I dont get a flight:
We cannot process your request.

We have received an unexpected response. Please resubmit your search and try again.

szg
Dec 5, 07, 2:26 pm
LX IST-SCL : SGD 3351
LH IST-SCL : SGD 3893
LH IST-EZE : SGD 3733

(these are net fares before taxes/surcharges/fees)

Could you please tell me, on which dates you will get this prices ?

graraps
Dec 5, 07, 10:07 pm
Could you please tell me, on which dates you will get this prices ?

can't seem to be able to find availability on any dates...strange since these rules must correspond to something. :D

MichaelFFM
Dec 6, 07, 2:54 pm
Hmmm... think, I just found the issue with that fare ;)


Found on Zuji.
Fare rules here:
....


VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01APR06.

SALES RESTRICTIONS

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01APR06.

.....



and

And this is the LX fare IST-SCL

....

TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01APR07.
....


Cheers,

Michael

sentom
Dec 6, 07, 5:23 pm
Hmmm... think, I just found the issue with that fare.

well it is after april 1st 2006 so where exactly is the problem?

graraps
Dec 6, 07, 10:07 pm
well it is after april 1st 2006 so where exactly is the problem?

I believe MichaelFFM is saying that the key part is not the year. :D

andre1970
Dec 6, 07, 10:33 pm
Hmmm... think, I just found the issue with that fare ;)
:D^

MichaelFFM

Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: LH:SEN++
:D:D^^



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