MilesBuzz! - Here's the new enhancement, Delta-style - I Hope the Industry Doesn't Follow!




leiterk
Dec 26, 02, 4:25 pm
This seems like a Continental-like "enhancement". It looks like a duck, it talks like a duck, but call it an "enhancement". Since United backed off on the $100 change fee for standby and other airlines had to swallow the news and follow, what Delta is doing is trying to get more money out of the situation and take away the flexibility.

Release Follows:

Delta Air Lines Introduces Industry-Leading New Product $25 Fee to Confirm on Different Flight

ATLANTA, Dec. 26, 2002 -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gifAL) today announced that it will offer an industry-leading new product, giving customers flexibility and certainty in changing their travel plans, effective Mar. 1, 2003.

Delta will offer customers traveling on most restricted fares the opportunity to confirm travel for different flights, including connecting flights, on the same day of their originally ticketed flight. Customers may request to be confirmed on a different flight, within three hours of that flight’s departure, by paying a $25 fee if seats are available. For customers traveling on connecting itineraries, Delta will confirm both the originating as well as the connecting flights for a total of $25, if seats are available on all flights. The $25 fee will be waived for SkyMiles Platinum and Gold Medallion® members.

With the introduction of this new product, Delta will no longer offer customers an option to standby for earlier or later flights. "Our new product offers excellent value to customers traveling on connecting itineraries. Today, these customers have to stand by for each separate flight leg without knowing if seats are available at a connecting airport," said Harlan Bennett, Delta’s vice president - revenue management. "These benefits are particularly important to our customers because Delta carries more passengers traveling via connections than any other carrier.

"Delta’s program gives customers the flexibility to make confirmed changes on a different flight, rather than traveling on a standby basis with its inconveniences and uncertainties," Bennett said. "We will give our customers a simpler boarding process at the gate, leading to a more efficient and on-time operation and a better travel experience."

The new policy is effective for tickets purchased on or after Sept. 5, 2002, for travel beginning Mar. 1, 2003, and applies for travel in the 50 United States and Canada on Delta, Delta Express and Delta Connection®. Customers can confirm their new flights when using the more than 440 self-service kiosks located at 81 cites where Delta flies, by calling Reservation Sales or through Delta Direct phone banks at select airports. For changes more than three hours before the flight requested, Delta will continue to offer customers the opportunity to confirm on that flight by paying a $100 fee ($50 for Delta Express), plus any applicable fare difference.


This seems like a Continental-like "enhancement". It seems like a duck, it talks like a duck, but call it an "enhancement". Since United backed off on the $100 change fee for standby and other airlines had to swallow the news and follow, what Delta is doing is trying to get more money out of the situation and take away the flexibility.


xyzzy
Dec 26, 02, 4:47 pm
Maybe they hired a marketroid from CO?

I suspect that at $100 they had few takers. We KNOW they had a lot of backlash!

At $25 they'll probably take in more money overall. I can't blame them for doing this -- at least the cost to the customer is more reasonable. It's still nickle and diming folks, though. I expect the rest of the pack to follow.

TxLobo
Dec 26, 02, 4:48 pm
Sounds good to me EXCEPT it is limited to the 3 hours before your scheduled flt.....

This is hardly an enhancement, wait until they make it effective for the whole day. Personally I would pay $25 for a confirmed seat, but will not pay #100.

The simple reason is $25 and under I don't have to document the expense.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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Bourne
Dec 26, 02, 4:49 pm
Now we're talking http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

It is a positive move and most airlines should match it.

+ive
..Makes it more affordable to standby compated to $100 fees
..You technically do not have to standby and hope a seat is available. $25 gives you a confirmed seat.
..Top/Mid level elites do not pay the $25 fees.

-ive
I cannot see any negatives. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

JerryFF
Dec 26, 02, 5:38 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Bourne:

I cannot see any negatives. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>

I can -

1) What if desired flight is more than 3 hours from originally scheduled flight? No confirmation for $25 and no possibility of standby.

2) What if desired flights are full? No confirmation for $25 and no possibility of standby.

Sydneyjb
Dec 26, 02, 5:44 pm
If the flight is within the three hour window of your scheduled flight and you are now connecting instead, you will probably arrive at your destination latter than if you were to fly non stop ?

xyzzy
Dec 26, 02, 6:51 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Sydneyjb:
If the flight is within the three hour window of your scheduled flight and you are now connecting instead, you will probably arrive at your destination latter than if you were to fly non stop ?</font>

I don't think they'll let you change your destination or connecting city. There's nothing there to indicate that they will. I think you can change only the flight times.

The point about connections is that if you are going from A to B and B to C that if you got an earlier A to B flight that you could still end up waiting at B for your original flight to C. Now they say that they will confirm you the whole way through on an earlier B to C connection (if available).

I've had airlines do this for me for free in the past. I don't see how this is an enhancement in any non-CO way.

[This message has been edited by xyzzy (edited 12-26-2002).]

snake
Dec 26, 02, 8:19 pm
Hey guys, the term enhancement® is a registered trademark of the Continental OnePass Program. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

Bidkat
Dec 26, 02, 9:55 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Bourne:
It is a positive move and most airlines should match it.
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I agree.

A confirmed itinerary change is _MUCH_ better than standby, and certainly worth a pittancely $25 (no doubt it'll rise). And for elites, it's (sensibly) waived. This will have the effect of putting cash in Delta's hands that goes direct to the bottom line, while at the same time reducing CSR time with irate customers as not too many people will raise a huge stink over a small fee.

Only complaint: three hours is not enough of a window. Not nearly enough. Why not extend it to the entire calendar day?

CPRich
Dec 26, 02, 10:07 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JerryFF:
I can -

1) What if desired flight is more than 3 hours from originally scheduled flight? No confirmation for $25 and no possibility of standby.</font>


Perhaps I am missing something, but..

I see no restriction that says the desired flight must be within 3 hrs of the original flight. In fact, the blurb specifically says "same day". 3 hrs relates to how long in advance of the new flight you can confirm. I.e. I am on a 5pm flight but the day's events get cancelled. I can *confirm* a seat on the noon flight as early as 9am. Not go to the airport and wait until 11:50 to see if seats are open - *confirm* a seat 3 hrs ahead.

$25 for the administrative efforts seems reasonable to me, and waiving it for elites seems to be a benefit to frequent customers.

Perhaps I'm de-sensitized by the continued assault by USAir (they just unveiled their 'enhanced' $100 standby charge), but this seems fair and reasonable to me.

JerryFF
Dec 26, 02, 10:51 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CPRich:

Perhaps I am missing something, but..

I see no restriction that says the desired flight must be within 3 hrs of the original flight.
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If your reading of this is correct, then my post is completely in error and I take it back. Thanks for pointing out my misinterpretation. That's much better than what I thought.

Moderator2
Dec 27, 02, 1:01 am
While this is an important story that might change other airlines' policies, it doesn't belong in "MilesBuzz". Please follow it in "Travel"Buzz.

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