Travel Technology - Magicjack

Just came across this magicjack (http://www.magicjack.com/site/index.html) on the BBC website.

Anyone used or has knowledge of it?

Looks like an intersting approach to IP telephony. Of course, if they run like Packet8 and then go out of business you're in trouble. I'd consider moving my Vonage over to this and just leaving it plugged in to my server in the closet.

If you don't have a computer that you leave on then this is a bad idea. If you have a small handset that you travel with and would rather use that than a softphone this isn't a terrible idea, though I can't imagine traveling with a handset.

Nifty technology though.

Packet8 never went out of business, perhaps you are thinking of Sunrocket?

I have MJ and think its great. The price is $40 for the first year $20 each additional. I suggest everyone purchase one.

I have MJ and think its great. The price is $40 for the first year $20 each additional. I suggest everyone purchase one.

Gomike, do you use it for local or international calls? Is the reception very good?

I think I'll give this a try, definately worth the $40.

magicjack has been around long enough, a lot of the sunrocket refugees went to magicjack after the shutdown of sunrocket.

I went with the free net2phone offer, it has been solid since the switch over. I might try the magicjack just for travel though.

I picked up one the first day that they went on sale and at the time you could only pick from a few area codes, one of them was 206.

They have since started offering 415 numbers, and they don't have a way to change your current one, so it was just easier to buy another one, so I actually have two.

I wouldn't say they are completely bulletproof, but 95% of the time they work great and work behind most standard home firewalls without problem.

All domestic calls are free and incoming is free, unlimited. Free voice mail, too.

It is basically a small (size of a zippo) that plugs into your USB and looks like a USB stick to your computer and runs a little app on the stick to control it.

A very cool thing is that the unit has an RJ11 jack on it, so you can plug in your regular home phone to it and just use it with your existing home phone if you aren't into goofy headsets.

If you are on the road you can toggle to use a USB headset instead of the RJ11 jack. In hotels I've used the hotel's phone on it as well as a nice Plantronics USB wireless headset, both work great.

Overall, a total bargain for $40, not sure how long the company is going to be around, but even for six months, it works good enough to be worth it.

The manager application has a phone book that you can put in all your common numbers and it follows the unit, so you don't have to keep a separate phone directory. Bummer that you can't import phone numbers into it from a comma-delimited file or something.

Another note - they ship fast, when you order one on Monday, you will have it by the end of the week. It comes in one of those hang-packs you would see at Walmart or something that are nearly hermetically sealed in plastic and require the sharpest of scissors to open.

It looks designed to be sold at a retail store because it is bought then registered and configured online, you don't get your number until after you install it on your computer.

A little late to the thread, but I took Magicjack for a spin and posted my review (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/traveltechtalk/2008/03/12/magicjack-a-must-have-for-travelers/) on the blog.

A little late to the thread, but I took Magicjack for a spin and posted my review (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/traveltechtalk/2008/03/12/magicjack-a-must-have-for-travelers/) on the blog.

I am amazed how well magicJack works. Per ScottC's review I pulled the trigger and ordered it last Friday and received it yesterday. It works perfectly except for an occasional echo, I love it. I tried using it to fax a few Excel spreadsheets and they came out perfect. I don't have a land line so this gadget has got to be one of the best purchases I have made. I highly recommend it as well. ^

Just noticed that Magicjack has included Irish 076 numbers in its mobile category. 076 prefixes are non-geographic and are classed as a local call so the cost should be 0.02.
It is probable some other countries number sets are also misclassified.

A little late to the thread, but I took Magicjack for a spin and posted my review (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/traveltechtalk/2008/03/12/magicjack-a-must-have-for-travelers/) on the blog.That's a very helpful and complete review, Scott. I've also pulled the plug and ordered one today.

Thanks!

In Japan right now and have been using one all week, sometimes with a headset, sometimes plugging in the RJ11 jack from the hotel phone into it just so you have a "normal" phone to use.

So, I've had one (now two) since the beginning. I find that the outbound calls work almost all the time, about the 95% I mentioned earlier in the thread.

Inbound, however, is total hit-or-miss for me. My local phone number one has only worked a few times since I've had it, right now it isn't working, for example. I can make outbound calls fine, but inbound just go to the voice mail.

I contacted support before and they said that it is probably a firewall issue, which I suppose could be true, I haven't tested it to know for sure and since I use it pretty much for just outgoing calls, no big deal.

Another thing about the MJ is that when calling the US you have a nice US looking caller-id number that people can recognize, unlike Skype.

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Another thing about the MJ is that when calling the US you have a nice US looking caller-id number that people can recognize, unlike Skype.

Not only that; you also get good inbound caller ID, include CID on the phone jack port of the adapter.

I'm guessing that the inbound issue might be related to firewalls, or even latency issues.

We've had one for about six months. Sound quality is good, and it works well when travelling. ^

Tempting, but I am very happy with my vonage right now. I got it all configured, and never had any issues with incoming and outgoing calls.

Tomorrow is the last day to jump on the free 30-day trial offer. ^

One sale a day has it today for $29.99 with a year of service (plus $6 shipping)

And they extended the free trial a few more days.

http://www.1saleaday.com/

OK I bought 2.
This will work great for our place in Mexico, and also another one I can use in Colorado

Groan...

I'd love to use this on my Asus eee but it looks like it's not compatible with Linux.

Interesting rant on the EULA terms here (http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/04/14/magicjacks-eula-says.html). That could be enough to dissuade me, not that I was likely to sign up anyways.

I am using MJ as a back up to my Onesuite.com voip and its been good except for the occasional hiccups but overall its okay.

So far I like the quality of Majic jack- my only negative is that it is another piece of stuff that I have to take with me on a trip.

As a secondary phone, I think it is a great deal. I'm just not sure if can replace your main number. The USB devices seem to not be as reliable (IMHO) as the hardware based ATAs.

Finally got around to installing it. I've got to say, I'm pretty impressed -- voice quality is great both to and from the MagicJack. I also like the idea of being able to take this thing with me internationally and being able to receive calls from the States that are billed as local for the caller. I'm even considering picking up some of these for our friends in China to use to call us (and so we can call them).

Has anyone ever tried this with a fax machine (or a fax modem)?

Finally got around to installing it. I've got to say, I'm pretty impressed -- voice quality is great both to and from the MagicJack. I also like the idea of being able to take this thing with me internationally and being able to receive calls from the States that are billed as local for the caller. I'm even considering picking up some of these for our friends in China to use to call us (and so we can call them).

Has anyone ever tried this with a fax machine (or a fax modem)?

I purchased MagicJack specifically for faxing and the results were spotty using a multi-function Brother MCF-7200 fax machine. Sometimes it would work perfectly faxing to a local number. Some long distance faxes seem to get "garbled". Voice quality is good although there is a bit of a lag and echo. All in all it is a good value for those who don't have a land line. Single page faxes seem to work OK, but multiple pages and spreadsheets are not dependable. That's my experience in the last 60 days. I like the product and concept, but I can't use it for reliable faxing.

From MagicJack FAQ:
"We do not officially support using faxing with magicJack.
Please try the following steps to use magicJack with your fax (contact your fax vendor for details):
Turn off error correction on your fax machine or program
Set the fax machine or program to use the slowest speed available
Increase the speed, checking at each speed that faxes work "

As for the "last day" offer that they show on their website. There is no such thing as they update the day to today's date. Check back tomorrow and you'll see that they use that to entice you to "buy now". As far as I can see, there's really no hurry.

(Hurry, Free Trial Offer not available in stores and only available here until Saturday, June 14, 2008. Only 20,000 magicJacks are still available for this Free Trial Offer!)

I am a bit concerned about the privacy and advertising issue that many people have mentioned in the EULA. Since I'm already on Skype and it works fine, I don't think I'm going to switch. And they don't offer Canadian numbers either.

I am a bit concerned about the privacy and advertising issue that many people have mentioned in the EULA. Since I'm already on Skype and it works fine, I don't think I'm going to switch. And they don't offer Canadian numbers either.I read the EULA carefully. Apparently, the "data" collected is in the form of a cookie and is used only to determine the ads that you're shown within the MagicJack user interface. This is no different than what Google does or, for that matter, those supermarket discount cards that use the information to print targeted coupons with the receipt. As MagicJack is, by it's very nature, "opt in," the use is disclosed and, in my mind, de minimus, and the "consideration" for disclosure is far more than significant (free phone service) than that offered by, for example, Google, I have no problem with it at all.

I read the EULA carefully. Apparently, the "data" collected is in the form of a cookie and is used only to determine the ads that you're shown within the MagicJack user interface. This is no different than what Google does or, for that matter, those supermarket discount cards that use the information to print targeted coupons with the receipt. As MagicJack is, by it's very nature, "opt in," the use is disclosed and, in my mind, de minimus, and the "consideration" for disclosure is far more than significant (free phone service) than that offered by, for example, Google, I have no problem with it at all.

I think they may have changed their EULA somewhat. According to this posting at BoingBoing (http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/04/14/magicjacks-eula-says.html), it certainly doesn't make me feel that great about them. I am still skeptical and especially if they start changing their EULA without notice. I have no proof so it's all innuendo.

But heck, it seems people are giving away passwords for a chocolate bar, so it's not suprising how much we value our privacy. ;)

I think they may have changed their EULA somewhat. According to this posting at BoingBoing (http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/04/14/magicjacks-eula-says.html), it certainly doesn't make me feel that great about them. I am still skeptical and especially if they start changing their EULA without notice. I have no proof so it's all innuendo.

But heck, it seems people are giving away passwords for a chocolate bar, so it's not suprising how much we value our privacy. ;)All I can say is that the minimal amount of information disclosed and the way it is used (automated analysis to target ads within the MagicJack software) is, at least for me, a reasonable exchange for a service that lets me, for example, make telephone calls back to the U.S. from overseas for free. If, for example, MagicJack tracked all my calls, used reverse look-up to compile a list of "contact" and then sold this information to third-parties without restriction I'd be significantly more concerned.

The key is "informed consent." I believe that MagicJack obtains that and is sufficiently clear about how it uses the collected information.

I now am really much more impressed with MagicJack. I called my friend who just flew to Halifax, Nova Scotia and the reception was perfect. No echo or lag time at all. This gadget really rocks! It's a keeper for sure. One of the best gadgets I have ever come across in a long time. The more I use it, the more I recommended it.^

And now a fax went through just perfect !

We just received ours last week. Its awesome. Perfect clarity and great function.

We are in the Carribean next month. I can keep up with orders and clients very economically now.

I am thrilled with it.

Well based on the advice I was given in the thread I started about a home VPN, I ordered Magicjack and now have it installed. (anyone want my number ;) )

Overall I like it, set-up was quick and easy and the phone clarity is better than my cell.

I plugged it into my docking station hoping it would work when the notebook wasn't in it, nope - gotta be docked for it to work. Didn't realize it needed the softphone option. Oh well, I will set it up on my desktop.

One thing I do find annoying with it is whenever I make a call, the softphone jumps up and in front of whatever I am doing. It is annoying to be surfing por... newspapers and have this get in the way. What is a girl to do? Any ideas?

Well based on the advice I was given in the thread I started about a home VPN, I ordered Magicjack and now have it installed. (anyone want my number ;) )

Overall I like it, set-up was quick and easy and the phone clarity is better than my cell.

I plugged it into my docking station hoping it would work when the notebook wasn't in it, nope - gotta be docked for it to work. Didn't realize it needed the softphone option. Oh well, I will set it up on my desktop.

One thing I do find annoying with it is whenever I make a call, the softphone jumps up and in front of whatever I am doing. It is annoying to be surfing por... newspapers and have this get in the way. What is a girl to do? Any ideas?Go over to The Unofficial Magicjack Forum (http://unofficialmagicjack.forum2u.org/) and do a search. You'll find a number of solutions (involving user-written software) that will block the pop-up.

Go over to The Unofficial Magicjack Forum (http://unofficialmagicjack.forum2u.org/) and do a search. You'll find a number of solutions (involving user-written software) that will block the pop-up.

Thanks I just went over and registered. Another forum to remember to check :rolleyes:

Ok, I just ordered one of these. I thought for the price it really couldnt be so bad. I really only use my vonage for cheap calls to Thailand for my wife and if this works out the we will just continue to use it and drop vonage as I have a pc in the house that is running all the time anyway so I just put the magicjack in that and run the rj11 cable to my house phone "network" like I did with my vonage and so far cant tell the difference.

It also will be easier to travel with and I would say for anybody that travels outside the US this would be a nice thing to travel with.

I'd prefer hard phones rather than usb based voip devices. You need a computer for this, but this would be handy if you bring your laptop along with you and you have good internet connection.

So what is the advantage over a simple softphone?

So what is the advantage over a simple softphone?

You can connect physical PSTN phones and get caller ID support

It's cheap - in fact, if you crunch the numbers, it can even be cheaper than Skype for unlimited US calls

You can connect physical PSTN phones and get caller ID supportNot sure why I would want to connect an adapter and a PSTN phone to my computer when I can simply connect a headset? I use sipgate in Europe for my calls (using X-Lite) and they support caller ID and have free local numbers in Germany, Austria and the UK.

It's cheap - in fact, if you crunch the numbers, it can even be cheaper than Skype for unlimited US callsBut only for one year, right? Aren't there several SIP offers that give free calls.

I'm not really convinced... I prefer a nice SIP solution that works on my IP phone at home, as well as working as a softphone when I'm on the road.

Not sure why I would want to connect an adapter and a PSTN phone to my computer when I can simply connect a headset? I use sipgate in Europe for my calls (using X-Lite) and they support caller ID and have free local numbers in Germany, Austria and the UK.

But only for one year, right? Aren't there several SIP offers that give free calls.

I'm not really convinced... I prefer a nice SIP solution that works on my IP phone at home, as well as working as a softphone when I'm on the road.

That's fine, so it's clearly not a product you are interested in.

Many people prefer to make calls using a normal phone and don't like the hassle of having to use their PC to call. Or some hookup a cordless phone.

That's fine, so it's clearly not a product you are interested in.

Many people prefer to make calls using a normal phone and don't like the hassle of having to use their PC to call. Or some hookup a cordless phone.I am one of those, but then I prefer not having to switch on my computer in the first place. If it is on, I actually prefer a headset because you have both hands free to type.

So, essentially this is an ATA that connects to a computer, and probably a specific software that does part of the work?

I am one of those, but then I prefer not having to switch on my computer in the first place. If it is on, I actually prefer a headset because you have both hands free to type.

So, essentially this is an ATA that connects to a computer, and probably a specific software that does part of the work?

Yes, they have the client actually preinstalled on the ATA. It does support calling with a headset using it fully as a softphone.

Not sure why I would want to connect an adapter and a PSTN phone to my computer when I can simply connect a headset?That's what I do when I travel. For the one I have at home, I use a PSTN phone (soon to be a cordless phone system w/answering machine)

But only for one year, right? Aren't there several SIP offers that give free calls.After the first year, it's $20/year for dial-out service.

Hey Everyone,

I've been using magicJack since March and it's been a decent bargain and good alternative to the legacy phone company. Haven't had a chance to use it on the road yet, but it works good on both my home computer and work laptop.

I really like the service, but the pop-up window (or "SoftPhone") get pretty annoying at times. We've got MagicJack is installed on the home computer, so whenever the phone rings, the pop-up window bumps you off the program/web-page your looking at.

Being a programmer, I made a small utility that blocks the pop-up window when I don't want to see it. MagicJack is fully functionally, just not in my way anymore.

It's freeware and available on CNET Download.com:
http://www.download.com/MagicBlock/3000-2349_4-10838528.html?cdlPid=10843178

or can be found on Google by searching for "MagicBlock"

Hope this helps other folks who've ran into this annoyance too.
:)
All The Best,
Jeff

I'm sure some here have used this in hotels. I'll be traveling through Asia in a couple weeks, staying mostly at SPG properties. Do you think they'll block the ports that this thing uses?

I'm sure some here have used this in hotels. I'll be traveling through Asia in a couple weeks, staying mostly at SPG properties. Do you think they'll block the ports that this thing uses?

I havent noticed this in the past at any of the hotels I have stayed at in Asia but I have a relatively small sampling. Depending on the hotels the internet speed/latency could be your biggest problem.

Have been using MJ for my long distance calls but have retained land line phone as the number has been the same for 30+years. Will be in Berlin and Nice next month and am considering bringing my laptop and MJ so I can call home. Do I need to bring a converter and plug for my laptop? Am staying at Marriotts with wifi and business centers. I doubt if I can plug my MJ into their business center computers but will I be able to use their phones with MJ. Should I buy a headset phone setup? I need to call back to the U.S. frequently. I am a techno beginnner so forgive my ignorance. Thanks

Have been using MJ for my long distance calls but have retained land line phone as the number has been the same for 30+years. Will be in Berlin and Nice next month and am considering bringing my laptop and MJ so I can call home. Do I need to bring a converter and plug for my laptop? Am staying at Marriotts with wifi and business centers. I doubt if I can plug my MJ into their business center computers but will I be able to use their phones with MJ. Should I buy a headset phone setup? I need to call back to the U.S. frequently. I am a techno beginnner so forgive my ignorance. Thanks

The telephones in Germany don't have the same connection as we do in North America - you will need to bring a phone OR a headset.

Thanks for the feedback.

Quick question - can you hook up just a handset to the MJ and not an entire phone?

What I mean is use the software to do the dialing but use something like a hotel phone handset to do the calling. I have a mediocre Bluetooth setup going but don't want to rely on it. Unfortunately, I don't have a phone handset to test this out on - I'm cordless only at home.

Thanks for the feedback.

Quick question - can you hook up just a handset to the MJ and not an entire phone?

What I mean is use the software to do the dialing but use something like a hotel phone handset to do the calling. I have a mediocre Bluetooth setup going but don't want to rely on it. Unfortunately, I don't have a phone handset to test this out on - I'm cordless only at home.

Nope, it has to be a regular PSTN phone.

The telephones in Germany don't have the same connection as we do in North America - you will need to bring a phone OR a headset.

Not entirely true. There are plenty of phones in Germany and the rest of Europe that use the same RJ-11 connectors as in the US, but most public locations (like a hotel) still often use the dedicated phone jacks issued by the phone company.

But by far the biggest issue with hotel phones isn't the jack, it's the fact that they are PBX phones that won't work on a regular device (like Magicjack).

Nope, it has to be a regular PSTN phone.

Hey Scott, thanks for your response. Just to confirm, I mean using just the actual handset, not the entire phone. I understand that a hotel PBX wouldn't work, but I was considering just using the actual disconnected handset. Not sure if I was clear in my original question. Even a hotel handset only won't work?

Cheers, thanks again.

Hey Scott, thanks for your response. Just to confirm, I mean using just the actual handset, not the entire phone. I understand that a hotel PBX wouldn't work, but I was considering just using the actual disconnected handset. Not sure if I was clear in my original question. Even a hotel handset only won't work?

Cheers, thanks again.

Nope, a handset won't work either. Just for fun, I tested it a moment ago on my own magicjack, and indeed; it does not work.

Nope, a handset won't work either. Just for fun, I tested it a moment ago on my own magicjack, and indeed; it does not work.

Thanks, appreciate that. Looks like I'll be swinging by the office to pick up a normal Voip type headset.

Given the reviews in this thread, I went ahead and ordered a MJ last week. I got it quickly (I bypassed all the upsells for "expedite" shipping, 2 years, etc), but haven't gotten it to install correctly yet. I've tried two different USB plugs on my Dell desktop. I have a cordless phone hooked up to it, and get dial tone, and it will let me dial via the phone, but it doesn't connect.

I never even get any type of installation notice, or no popup for dialing or anything. Never any chance to select a number, either.

I glanced at PTravel's recommended other forum, but didn't see anything specific, but haven't waded through the hundreds of pages there. I just thought I'd ask quick, to see if anyone else had this same problem when installing.

I am using Firefox 3.x, Zonealarm (Security setting at medium), and my PC-Cillin security software expired a month ago. I'm running XP.

Nope, a handset won't work either. Just for fun, I tested it a moment ago on my own magicjack, and indeed; it does not work.

ScottC I am going to be traveling quite a bit next month. Do you have any recommendations on a small travel size PSTN phone that would work with my magicjack?
TIA

Given the reviews in this thread, I went ahead and ordered a MJ last week. I got it quickly (I bypassed all the upsells for "expedite" shipping, 2 years, etc), but haven't gotten it to install correctly yet. I've tried two different USB plugs on my Dell desktop. I have a cordless phone hooked up to it, and get dial tone, and it will let me dial via the phone, but it doesn't connect.

I never even get any type of installation notice, or no popup for dialing or anything. Never any chance to select a number, either.

I glanced at PTravel's recommended other forum, but didn't see anything specific, but haven't waded through the hundreds of pages there. I just thought I'd ask quick, to see if anyone else had this same problem when installing.

I am using Firefox 3.x, Zonealarm (Security setting at medium), and my PC-Cillin security software expired a month ago. I'm running XP.

Dial-tone is provided by the MagicJack. If you get dial tone, that means the MagicJack is working. If it doesn't connect, most likely it is a problem with your firewall. I'm not a big fan of Zone Alarm. However, I'd start by disabling it and seeing if you can connect. If so, you'll probably have to open up a port.

ScottC I am going to be traveling quite a bit next month. Do you have any recommendations on a small travel size PSTN phone that would work with my magicjack?
TIARather than carry a phone, why not use a small headset, i.e. microphone and earpiece?

Rather than carry a phone, why not use a small headset, i.e. microphone and earpiece?

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pick up a headset tomorrow. I was just curious if their was a neat little phone that would also be compatible. I really only use magicjack for faxing at home, but on the road it would be great to use the screen keypad and a headset.

Dial-tone is provided by the MagicJack. If you get dial tone, that means the MagicJack is working. If it doesn't connect, most likely it is a problem with your firewall. I'm not a big fan of Zone Alarm. However, I'd start by disabling it and seeing if you can connect. If so, you'll probably have to open up a port.

I'll give that a try later on. Thanks for the suggestions.

I am a bit leery about MJ. Don't see this as a sub to landlines. at best this is a second line. If the power fails, MJ is screwed. On top of this, MJ is tagged to a computer with an internet connection.

I seriously don't want to leave my PC/laptop turned on 24/7 so I can use my phone.

For the time being, I will stick with the onesuite/cell combo while on the road (will buy a sim card as needed) and leave my landline as is.

I am a bit leery about MJ. Don't see this as a sub to landlines. at best this is a second line. If the power fails, MJ is screwed. On top of this, MJ is tagged to a computer with an internet connection.My MJ works well enough to be my primary phone, except that directory assistance isn't particularly good. As for power, all my phones are wireless, so I'd be screwed if the power failed anyway. I keep my MJ and the computer that it's on on a UPS, so power failures aren't as much of a concern.

I seriously don't want to leave my PC/laptop turned on 24/7 so I can use my phone. I have a thin client for this purpose. It uses about 30 watts (and does a lot of other things in addition to being an MJ server).

You don't have to give up your traditional land line. I will, however, be cutting it down to the minimum service as I do virtually all my calling on the MJ.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pick up a headset tomorrow. I was just curious if their was a neat little phone that would also be compatible. I really only use magicjack for faxing at home, but on the road it would be great to use the screen keypad and a headset.A lot of people seem to like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Deluxe-mini-flip-phone-corded-good-for-MAGICJACK-NEW_W0QQitemZ120298562463QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3313QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I picked one up on eBay. It works, but just barely and the build quality is really poor, as is the sound quality. I have a wired headset that I use, but I can also use my bluetooth headset, which is really rather nice as it lets me walk around without being tied to the laptop. By the way, it's possible to install the MJ software so that you don't need the physical MJ if you're just going to use a headset. Instructions are here (http://unofficialmagicjack.forum2u.org/easy-way-to-use-magicjack-without-usb-dongle-t2640.html). I've tried it an it works great.

Not entirely true. There are plenty of phones in Germany and the rest of Europe that use the same RJ-11 connectors as in the US, but most public locations (like a hotel) still often use the dedicated phone jacks issued by the phone company.

But by far the biggest issue with hotel phones isn't the jack, it's the fact that they are PBX phones that won't work on a regular device (like Magicjack).

I didn't know that - you learn something everyday!

Well, I did a couple of things, I disabled Zone Alarm, plus I plugged it into another USB port. One, or both of these things worked, as it's set up now.

I have a USB phone that I use with Skype. This will work with MJ too, I assume?

Thanks go out to PT, and everyone else who has put good info in this thread. The quality with Skype was driving me crazy, especially trying to get voice mails off my normal phone, and checking balances on the phone for my bank.

Well, I did a couple of things, I disabled Zone Alarm, plus I plugged it into another USB port. One, or both of these things worked, as it's set up now. Congratulations! ^

I have a USB phone that I use with Skype. This will work with MJ too, I assume? Nope -- at least, not easily. MagicJack works with regular wired-line phones. If your USB phone shows up in DeviceManager as an audio device, you may be able to configure your audio to use it as the primary sound and recording device, in which case MagicJack can use it (set it to "headset" in the menu). Otherwise, you have to hack the SIP code which requires technical skill way beyond anything I can do.

Thanks go out to PT, and everyone else who has put good info in this thread. The quality with Skype was driving me crazy, especially trying to get voice mails off my normal phone, and checking balances on the phone for my bank.To get the best quality out of the MagicJack, it's a good idea to turn off QOS on your computer and router and use one of these (http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=36&FamID=80&ProdID=216) (Linksys has a similar product). It will improve any VOIP product (probably Skype, too). I've got one on my home system and it makes a big difference.

Well, I did a couple of things, I disabled Zone Alarm, plus I plugged it into another USB port. One, or both of these things worked, as it's set up now.
If ZoneAlarm was causing the problem, you may want to try to grant access to MJ program, other than disabling ZA. ZA may not be the best firewall, but I would hate to disable it when browsing.

I recall when I install a new program, my ZoneAlarm will deny the internet access for that program by default. I have to get into Program Control/ Programs, then adjust the "X" (red-cross) icon, or "?" icon, to the green checker. See if it would fix the problem with ZA running.

Found a small little phone on ebay. It is the size of a cell phone. We will try it out in Sept when we travel to europe with MJ. And my MJ works great from here in Illinois. And I do get a dial tone with the phone.

If ZoneAlarm was causing the problem, you may want to try to grant access to MJ program, other than disabling ZA. ZA may not be the best firewall, but I would hate to disable it when browsing.

I recall when I install a new program, my ZoneAlarm will deny the internet access for that program by default. I have to get into Program Control/ Programs, then adjust the "X" (red-cross) icon, or "?" icon, to the green checker. See if it would fix the problem with ZA running.

I only disabled it when doing the original install, where I selected the number and such. I rebooted computer, and it worked with Zonealarm at that point. I never got a "Magicjack is trying to access the internet" or such security messages previous to that.

Found a small little phone on ebay. It is the size of a cell phone. We will try it out in Sept when we travel to europe with MJ. And my MJ works great from here in Illinois. And I do get a dial tone with the phone.

Is this the flip phone that PT mentioned?

Here is something that might be interesting for MJ users:

http://shop2.frys.com/product/5595020?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

This machine will still need memory, an HDD and a CPU, but you should be able to get the entire rig setup for under $150. It is small, quiet and the perfect kind of machine for a MJ server. Of course, at the same time you could turn it into a nice NAS :)

Here is something that might be interesting for MJ users:

http://shop2.frys.com/product/5595020?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

This machine will still need memory, an HDD and a CPU, but you should be able to get the entire rig setup for under $150. It is small, quiet and the perfect kind of machine for a MJ server. Of course, at the same time you could turn it into a nice NAS :)This is interesting, but it won't work for an MJ -- it's Linux box. Of course, if you have an old copy of XP sitting around it would work. I had to search to find out the specs. Here the key specs:

Processor: Intel Celeron 430 (1.8GHz)
Memory: 512KB
Storage: 80GB hard drive
Optical Drives: None
Monitor: None
Graphics: Integrated Intel GMA 950
Operating System: Foresight Linux

Additional specifications:

Form Factor: Small Form Factor
Processor Interface: Socket 775
Processors Supported: Intel Core 2 Duo
Intel Celeron D 4XX
Intel Pentium Dual Core
Front Side Bus: 533MHz FSB
800MHz FSB
1066MHz FSB
1333MHz FSB
Northbridge: Intel 945GC
Southbridge: Intel ICH7
Number of Slots: 2
Number of Pins: 240-Pin
Maximum Memory Supported: 2GB
Memory Supported: Dual Channel Supported
DDR2 533
DDR2 667
Max. Memory Supported Per Slot: 1GB
Channels: 6-Channel
Audio Chipset: Realtek ALC662
Video Chipset: Intel GMA 950
Video Memory: 224MB Share Memory
Rending Ability: Dynamic Video Memory Technology (DVMT) 3.0
Supported Devices: 2
Hard Drive Types: ATA/100
USB Version: 2.0
USB Data Transfer Rates: 480Mbps
LAN Type: 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit
Port Type: RJ-45
PS/2 Keyboard Connectors: 1
PS/2 Mouse Connectors: 1
Serial Communication Ports: 1
Parallel Ports: 1
USB Ports: 4
LAN Ports: 1
Audio Out Jacks: 1
Line In Jacks: 1
Microphone Jacks: 1
IDE Headers: 1
Serial ATA Headers: 2
VGA Ports: 1
PCI Slots: 1 - PCI
Length: 11.00 in. (28.0 cm)
Width: 7.50 in. (19.05 cm)
Height: 6.700 in. (17.0 cm)
Total Output Power: 100 Watts

It has the capability of being expanded to 2 gigabytes and, of course, with 4 USB ports, you plug in USB drives and other devices. It doesn't make a good NAS, however, because of the 480 mbps limitation of the USB 2.0 ports, though that wouldn't be an issue if you can replace the internal drive. It's nice that it has a gigabit NIC, though. Also, note the power draw -- 100 watts, as configured, which is 3 times more than a true thin client.

I think the bottom line for this device is this: if you want what is essentially a Linux thin client, this thing is quite a bargain, even without the rebate. If you're trying to match the capabilities of, for example, a t5730 (which is an XPe-based thin client from HP), you'll wind up with a considerably more powerful machine (that uses more power) for less than the cost of a new t5730, even after buying an OEM copy of XP and expanding the memory beyond 512k (the t5730 comes with 512k or 1 gig of RAM). However, if you're looking for a MagicJack server that can also serve (simultaneously) as a NAS, ftp server, VNC server/portal, etc., you're probably better off with a used t5720 from eBay.

Still, for $49 after rebate I'm tempted to pick up one of these things if for no other reason than to have a little Linux box to play with -- with about $50 for a couple of gig of RAM, this could be a fun machine to play with.

This is interesting, but it won't work for an MJ -- it's Linux box. Of course, if you have an old copy of XP sitting around it would work. I had to search to find out the specs. Here the key specs:


Not sure where you found that, but it's not the specs for the machine I posted.

The K45 I posted is just a regular desktop machine, and is designed to run XP or Vista. There is no Linux installed on it, as it's a BAREBONE that comes without a drive, CPU or memory...

Not sure where you found that, but it's not the specs for the machine I posted. I looked it up on a number of websites, as the specs were, to put it charitably, not readily available. Every box I looked at that had specs was Linux.

The K45 I posted is just a regular desktop machine, and is designed to run XP or Vista. There is no Linux installed on it, as it's a BAREBONE that comes without a drive, CPU or memory...It will run XP or Vista, but it doesn't come with it. Linux is pre-installed. If you have an extra copy of XP or Vista sitting around, that's fine, but if you have to buy a license, your adding between $200 and 400 to the cost, depending on which OS you buy. At that point, it's no longer a good deal at all.

It will run XP or Vista, but it doesn't come with it. Linux is pre-installed.

No it IS NOT. Please stop saying that :D

The machine does not come with ANY OS, as is normal with any barebone machine. There isn't even a drive in it, so it's impossible to deliver with an OS :D

The specs are not hard to find at all, they are on www.shuttle.com:

http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/Models/K45.html

I'm not even sure where you found that it comes with Linux, as all the sites I checked (including big ones like newegg.com) list it as the barebone it is.


As for XP or Vista; anyone who'll dabble in building a barebone will usually have a license of either lying around. It's not for the amateur, but for about $150 for the machine, a gig of memory, a decent CPU and a basic drive, it's a great deal for a very low power consuming machine.

Also; $200-$400 for XP or Vista is only for people who don't know where to find deals :D

Even the worst of deals out there will get you a Vista license for under $90, but smart shoppers can find Vista Ultimate for under $70 if they look hard enough.

Ah, I see what you did; you googled it, and found some of the pre-configured versions of this machine, but that was not what was on sale at Fry's... Shuttle has those listed here:

http://us.shuttle.com/kpc/index.htm

No it IS NOT. Please stop saying that :D

The machine does not come with ANY OS, as is normal with any barebone machine. There isn't even a drive in it, so it's impossible to deliver with an OS :D

The specs are not hard to find at all, they are on www.shuttle.com:

http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/Models/K45.htmlOkay, I'll take your word for it. The specs that I printed above were cut-and-paste from one of the retailers.

I'm not even sure where you found that it comes with Linux, as all the sites I checked (including big ones like newegg.com) list it as the barebone it is.Most of the ones that I saw described it as "bare bones" but provided no specs at all.

As for XP or Vista; anyone who'll dabble in building a barebone will usually have a license of either lying around. It's not for the amateur, but for about $150 for the machine, a gig of memory, a decent CPU and a basic drive, it's a great deal for a very low power consuming machine.

Also; $200-$400 for XP or Vista is only for people who don't know where to find deals :DThat's very true, but someone who is asking, "what do I need to run a MagicJack?" probably won't know where to look. ;)

Also, I'll admit to holding a major bias for thin clients. I started with one t5720 to run the MagicJack. Now I'm up to four, and I'm constantly watching eBay for deals. These things are fun!

Ah, I see what you did; you googled it, and found some of the pre-configured versions of this machine, but that was not what was on sale at Fry's... Shuttle has those listed here:

http://us.shuttle.com/kpc/index.htmAh, okay. You're right, I'm wrong -- I concede. :) I thought it odd, though, that Frys, which is usually pretty good about providing specs, had nothing on this machine.

After much thought I brought my mj and a small phone to Berlin and guess what it was easy to use! I even tried the phone in my hotel with success. Staying at a US based hotel chain. Just using the hotel wi fi and using the phone and voila, I am talking back home! ^

Weve had magicjack for also about 6 mo's.
In fact at first we thought it was great so we bought 2! The reality is, the technology is severely lacking. If you run into a glitch they will only have a chat line to help you. I have personally spent 16 total hours on chat trying to reset the mj# that suddenly quit working. Unly because I was in Europe and they disconnected me from my family.
Then I had another magicjack sent to me and suprise suprise, the same thing happened mysteriously quit working!
Another 2 full days on chat, for the same reason to no avail!
Save yourselves countless hours online trying to repair a product that they will not repair no matter how hard you devote yoursellf to it.
Nice idea, but just save yourself the grief and the money, do yourself a favor, there are far more reliable means of comunication, and far less frustrating, trust us on this.

Nice idea, but just save yourself the grief and the money, do yourself a favor, there are far more reliable means of comunication, and far less frustrating, trust us on this.

Thing is, I've had mine for ages, and it has been 100% rock solid. There are always going to be bad experiences with any product, but my personal experience has been nothing short of fantastic with Magicjack.

Thing is, I've had mine for ages, and it has been 100% rock solid. There are always going to be bad experiences with any product, but my personal experience has been nothing short of fantastic with Magicjack.That's been my experience, as well. I've been running three -- one on my laptop for travel, one at home and one at the office, and they've all been great. Particularly useful has been the one on my laptop. There's a nice hack available that lets you run the softphone without the physical magicJack. I just plug in a small headphone and can make calls on my laptop anywhere in the world.

There's a nice hack available that lets you run the softphone without the physical magicJack. I just plug in a small headphone and can make calls on my laptop anywhere in the world.How would you contrast this with making a Skype-Out call from your laptop?

How would you contrast this with making a Skype-Out call from your laptop?
I've tried Skype, though I haven't used it in a couple of years. They're both softphones, though, of course, you have to pay for Skype by the minute if you're dialing to a telephone.

The magicJack interface is far more "phone like" than Skype, has a hold button (and there's music on a hold), voice mail (automatically forwarded to email), etc.

The magicJack audio quality is, IMHO, far superior to Skype. With Skype I had continual problems with delays, echoes, etc. MagicJack sounds better than my landline phone.

On the other hand, though the magicJack interface is simpler, getting it to work well takes a little bit of work. For example, performance improves with the TJ echo canceling software, which takes some ingenuity to find. QOS settings, both for the local computer and the LAN make a big difference. I've found using a hardware-based QOS prioritizer helps, as well. Finally, magicJack support is just terrible -- imagine the worst of an Indian help desk confined to internet chat.

How would you contrast this with making a Skype-Out call from your laptop?

I've tried Skype, though I haven't used it in a couple of years. They're both softphones, though, of course, you have to pay for Skype by the minute if you're dialing to a telephone.

The magicJack interface is far more "phone like" than Skype, has a hold button (and there's music on a hold), voice mail (automatically forwarded to email), etc.

The magicJack audio quality is, IMHO, far superior to Skype. With Skype I had continual problems with delays, echoes, etc. MagicJack sounds better than my landline phone.

On the other hand, though the magicJack interface is simpler, getting it to work well takes a little bit of work. For example, performance improves with the TJ echo canceling software, which takes some ingenuity to find. QOS settings, both for the local computer and the LAN make a big difference. I've found using a hardware-based QOS prioritizer helps, as well. Finally, magicJack support is just terrible -- imagine the worst of an Indian help desk confined to internet chat.


That is what I am trying to figure out. I have Skype on everything basically and use it a lot. I use it for conference calls on a USB speakerphone almost daily. Likewise I use it for most of my calls from my office from either the speaker or a handset and at home from my notebook and when traveling from the same. I also just use the built in speaker and microphone on my Mac notebooks and it works fine. I dont notice any quality issues 90% of the time, and when I do, I call back. I have a Skype Pro account so it is $3 a month and I have unlimited calls.

Is there any advantage of Magic Jack over Skype? Thanks.

That is what I am trying to figure out. I have Skype on everything basically and use it a lot. I use it for conference calls on a USB speakerphone almost daily. Likewise I use it for most of my calls from my office from either the speaker or a handset and at home from my notebook and when traveling from the same. I also just use the built in speaker and microphone on my Mac notebooks and it works fine. I dont notice any quality issues 90% of the time, and when I do, I call back. I have a Skype Pro account so it is $3 a month and I have unlimited calls.

Is there any advantage of Magic Jack over Skype? Thanks.It's a matter of personal opinion, I think.

MagicJack will do everything you've described, though there is a specific hack to use MagicJack as a softphone without having to have the dongle. However, if you don't mind plugging in the dongle, you don't have to bother with the hack. It works fine with the built-in microphone and speaker of laptops (which, I think, includes Macs).

The cost is probably comparable.

I find the quality of the MJ to be superior to Skype, and also find I have fewer problems. With everything tuned up nicely, 99.9% of my calls are problem free.

MJ offers one primary advantage over Skype: you can use it with any landline phone. My MJ at home is connected to a standard DECT 6.0 wireless landline phone (from AT&T). This lets me use it anywhere in the house on the four extensions. It supports Caller ID. You can use MJ with any kind of traditional phone hardware-- you don't need a USB phone, etc.

I've heard differing reports on the ability to use the MJ to send faxes. I haven't tried it yet.

I once ran the numbers and Magicjack is slightly cheaper on a yearly basis than Skype. After the first year it become MUCH cheaper than Skype (if you have Skype In and the Skype pro subscription).

I'm convinced that a lot of the reports about MJ being bad are posted by the competition, including some of the brand new users in this thread. Even on my blog I see folks from all over the world (mainly eastern Europe) claiming they have MJ and warning people how "bad" it is.

I own one as a travel tool, not as my main line. I generally like it, but I have some complaints about call forwarding to Canada. I have a Canadian mobile and leave my Magic Jack parked to call forwarding to Canada when it is not in use. It pulls a fast busy half the time.

I once ran the numbers and Magicjack is slightly cheaper on a yearly basis than Skype. After the first year it become MUCH cheaper than Skype (if you have Skype In and the Skype pro subscription).
Does this analysis include the cost of power? Given your general interest in technology, my assumption is that you probably HAD a PC already turned on inside your house 24 X 7 X 365, before buying the MJ. But I don't. My interest is in eliminating my home phone line, but if I have to keep a PC turned on all the time, that must be part of the math.

Does this analysis include the cost of power? Given your general interest in technology, my assumption is that you probably HAD a PC already turned on inside your house 24 X 7 X 365, before buying the MJ. But I don't. My interest is in eliminating my home phone line, but if I have to keep a PC turned on all the time, that must be part of the math.

No, it doesn't include the cost of a PC 24/7, but to be honest, I never calculated the cost of MJ for a real landline replacement, the way I see it, it's more a replacement for Skype or a Vonage softphone for travelers. As much as I like MJ, I don't think I'd ever replace my home VOIP service with it.

I've found t far better than Vonage, Lingo and Skype, all of which I have used and dumped in the past.

I just received a MJ that I purchased for my older sister who is on a limited budget.

The set up was so fast I accidently called my home at 11 PM last night and woke up the wife.

The quality is just fine, normal telephone.

Set up was an absolute breeze.

and you can not beat the prices.

Well I ordered 2 of these a couple days ago - one for me when I travel, and one to send to my brother who's just been deployed to S. Korea so we can keep in touch without going broke. Will report back with the results we get!

I'm an expat in London, and all my family is in the US. Most of them have unlimited cell phone calls. In my flat, I have a wireless two phone system I got at Curry's for £20. I have a local Denver phone number that rings in my flat. It is awesome! My kids can call a local US number, and it is cheap for me. My wife can call the states and talk for as long as she wants. (We had $1200 cell phone bills during our first three months here) I have had zero problems in the 4 months I've had the unit. The only issue that I have is that the computer it's connected to needs to be rebooted every couple of days, and it takes about 5 minutes for the MJ unit to start up. Not really a big deal.

I'm an expat in London, and all my family is in the US. Most of them have unlimited cell phone calls. In my flat, I have a wireless two phone system I got at Curry's for £20. I have a local Denver phone number that rings in my flat. It is awesome! My kids can call a local US number, and it is cheap for me. My wife can call the states and talk for as long as she wants. (We had $1200 cell phone bills during our first three months here) I have had zero problems in the 4 months I've had the unit. The only issue that I have is that the computer it's connected to needs to be rebooted every couple of days, and it takes about 5 minutes for the MJ unit to start up. Not really a big deal.Redbeard, you might want to investigate a thin client as the computer to run your phone system. They're ultra reliable, use very little power, and are completely silent -- no fans or moving disk drives.

Redbeard, you might want to investigate a thin client as the computer to run your phone system. They're ultra reliable, use very little power, and are completely silent -- no fans or moving disk drives.

What exactly is a thin client in todays world? Im a bit confused about how you are using the term here. Thanks.

A thin client is a PC which runs a stripped down version of Windows (usually running one program). It doesn't have a harddrive, CD drive or other moving components. The device has less heat (meaning no fan or a notebook style one) and is usually designed to run 24/7. Leave it in a closet with a copy of Windows Remote Desktop or Real VNC running on it as well so that you can access it through your home network, but by and large just ignore it.

What exactly is a thin client in todays world? Im a bit confused about how you are using the term here. Thanks.

www.thinclientforum.com

Well, here I am in Beijing, and I've been making a bunch of calls back to the U.S. today. MagicJack works brilliantly! The calls go through first time, every time, and the voice quality is great -- as good or better than landlines. The delay is minimal -- again, about the same as landlines -- and, with the TJ echo reduction system, there are no problems with echoes.

It appears the MJ is very nice but does it require I tote a wired style telephone etc around? I converse fine almost all of the time with my Thinkpad (w/ built in mic and loudspeakers) and skype at slightly over 2.1 cents/min all in (my total bill is about $30/yr). What other stuff do I gain with MJ other than no one can hear the incoming words other than me.

MisterNice

It appears the MJ is very nice but does it require I tote a wired style telephone etc around? I converse fine almost all of the time with my Thinkpad (w/ built in mic and loudspeakers) and skype at slightly over 2.1 cents/min all in (my total bill is about $30/yr). What other stuff do I gain with MJ other than no one can hear the incoming words other than me.

MisterNiceIt's not necessary to use a telephone at all. You can use it with the mike and speakers on your laptop. There's even a hack so that you don't need the physical MagicJack at all.

It's not necessary to use a telephone at all. You can use it with the mike and speakers on your laptop. There's even a hack so that you don't need the physical MagicJack at all.

Can you point me to the hack? That would be so much better than having to cart the device around.

Cheers

Can you point me to the hack? That would be so much better than having to cart the device around.

Cheershttp://www.magicjacksupport.com/easy-way-to-use-magicjack-without-usb-dongle-t2640.html

I believe you'll have to register to view it.

http://www.magicjacksupport.com/easy-way-to-use-magicjack-without-usb-dongle-t2640.html

I believe you'll have to register to view it.

Fantastic!

Thanks

www.thinclientforum.com


Thanks for the link. Very interesting.


It's not necessary to use a telephone at all. You can use it with the mike and speakers on your laptop. There's even a hack so that you don't need the physical MagicJack at all.

Im not sure about this. I am running it on Intel Macs. On the Mac side, I cant find a way to switch to a microphone. I have to plug in a phone. If I go into a VM Ware virtual XP window I can use a USB microphone with Magic Jack. Is there a way to use a microphone while using the Mac OS? Thanks.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting.There's a wealth of MagicJack information on that site though, sometimes, the level of discussion isn't . . . um . . . up to FT standards. ;)

Im not sure about this. I am running it on Intel Macs. On the Mac side, I cant find a way to switch to a microphone. I have to plug in a phone. If I go into a VM Ware virtual XP window I can use a USB microphone with Magic Jack. Is there a way to use a microphone while using the Mac OS? Thanks.Ah, Macs. Can't help you there. It works fine on my Sony Vaio laptop (running Vista) with either a USB or plug-in microphone. It's in the Menu under Volume/Headset Control.

Hi

I guess I have been asleep about Magicjack and have been using onesuite for a few years ,

Anyway I was thinking of getting a netbbook soon and was wondering how Magicjack worked with it,

Does a netbook have enough processing power ?
out of 5 bars signal strength , how much do you need for magicjack to work ?

I would only be using this for outgoing calls , or if I am traveling overseas ,
I will keep my regular home landline,

please let me know how it has worked for you

thanks

Rally

Hi

I guess I have been asleep about Magicjack and have been using onesuite for a few years ,

Anyway I was thinking of getting a netbbook soon and was wondering how Magicjack worked with it,

Does a netbook have enough processing power ?
out of 5 bars signal strength , how much do you need for magicjack to work ?

I would only be using this for outgoing calls , or if I am traveling overseas ,
I will keep my regular home landline,

please let me know how it has worked for you

thanks

Rally
Most netbooks will happily play 720p HD video - running a voip call is no problem to them at all. I haven't used Magicjack specifically but regularly use my Aspire One for Skype voice / video calls and it barely registers on the CPU load meter.

Redbeard, you might want to investigate a thin client as the computer to run your phone system. They're ultra reliable, use very little power, and are completely silent -- no fans or moving disk drives.I'm leaning in that direction. I've finally got the Slingbox working, so I need a computer client to sit next to my TV and stream my US programs to my UK TV. ^

Instead of messing with a thin client, try looking at some of the new mini desktop machines based off Netbook CPU/chipsets:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032

After adding a drive and some memory, you end up under $200, but have the added bonus of buying a "real" PC with extremely low power usage.

No, it doesn't include the cost of a PC 24/7, but to be honest, I never calculated the cost of MJ for a real landline replacement, the way I see it, it's more a replacement for Skype or a Vonage softphone for travelers. As much as I like MJ, I don't think I'd ever replace my home VOIP service with it.

Probably a wise move if you require reliability.

My friend was touting his magicjack much as we see here until it simply stopped working. He contacted the company, even offered to buy a replacement unit if the hardware was busted, but received no response.

Probably a wise move if you require reliability.

My friend was touting his magicjack much as we see here until it simply stopped working. He contacted the company, even offered to buy a replacement unit if the hardware was busted, but received no response.
MJ customer support is notoriously poor, but there are ways around it. I've recently moved to what will be a temporary residence (6 mos to 1 year). I am using the MJ as my sole phone service and haven't had any problems.

MJ customer support is notoriously poor, but there are ways around it.

Please do tell more.

Please do tell more.If you go over to here: http://www.magicjacksupport.com you'll be able to find email addresses for other folks at MJ, as well as live phone numbers.

I am not really sure what people expect for $20,

if it works in the USA making long distance calls it will pay back pretty quick , even at my 2 cents a minute that one-suite charges,

If it works good overseas calling back to the USA it will pay for itself in a day or 2

you also get a USA phone number and voice mail,.....

Would I cancel my local phone ? NO WAY !
But I would not cancel it with Skype or any of the other VOIP deals either.

Would I consider Magicjack the last phone set-up I will use ?
I doubt that too, who knows whats around the corner !

Rally

If you go over to here: http://www.magicjacksupport.com you'll be able to find email addresses for other folks at MJ, as well as live phone numbers.

Thanks. I have been browsing that site, however did not see that info. Will have to go back if will need csr. Thanks

I am not really sure what people expect for $20,

if it works in the USA making long distance calls it will pay back pretty quick , even at my 2 cents a minute that one-suite charges,

If it works good overseas calling back to the USA it will pay for itself in a day or 2

you also get a USA phone number and voice mail,.....

Would I cancel my local phone ? NO WAY !
But I would not cancel it with Skype or any of the other VOIP deals either.

Would I consider Magicjack the last phone set-up I will use ?
I doubt that too, who knows whats around the corner !

Rally

Some people just keep running after every dollar.

MJ in my eyes is a alt option
When I'm traveling I have my mobile but also my MJ or some other VOIP to keep the costs down. If someone needs to call me, they can always get me on my mobile. But I do have the more affordable route.
I got Vonage in my Polish address and so far after 4 year never had a problem. That IS my landline there.
In the USA I also got a VOIP over Comcast as a landline. Neither place has a hard line landline anymore.

Anyone using a VOIP adapter like a Linksys or a DLINK instead of a PC? I found a utility that gives all of the SIP info but not sure which device would be best. I have my old Vonage device but has no utility to edit the SIP info.

I just ordered mine today. I hope it works out ok.

If I want to use MJ only with phone that is plugged in, can I have the MJ plugged into a PC without affecting the PC audio settings (I'm using the PC as a media center among other things)? Thanks.

I once ran the numbers and Magicjack is slightly cheaper on a yearly basis than Skype. After the first year it become MUCH cheaper than Skype (if you have Skype In and the Skype pro subscription).

I'm convinced that a lot of the reports about MJ being bad are posted by the competition, including some of the brand new users in this thread. Even on my blog I see folks from all over the world (mainly eastern Europe) claiming they have MJ and warning people how "bad" it is.

I just got done trying to debug a busted MJ for someone, and I think my time/experience here as well as knowledge of VoIP might dissuade you from reaching that same conclusion when I say that the Magicjack sucks large rocks thru a small straw.

Or their support does, anyway.

I've sent the person back on their way with a linksys travel router and PAP2 combination they had that's worked for years.

If I want to use MJ only with phone that is plugged in, can I have the MJ plugged into a PC without affecting the PC audio settings (I'm using the PC as a media center among other things)? Thanks.I believe so -- you can set MagicJack to use specific audio hardware.

I just got done trying to debug a busted MJ for someone, and I think my time/experience here as well as knowledge of VoIP might dissuade you from reaching that same conclusion when I say that the Magicjack sucks large rocks thru a small straw.

Or their support does, anyway.

I've sent the person back on their way with a linksys travel router and PAP2 combination they had that's worked for years.MagicJack support is an oxymoron. However, I've been using multiple MJs for the last year or so. One provides my only telephone service at home, another provides a private line here in my office, and the third travels with me around the world. I've have only minimal issues, slightly more than when I had traditional land-line service, and I think the product is terrific.

I'm six months into using my MJ with no issues.

I'm six months into using my MJ with no issues.

Nothing but good results with MJ as my only home service for almost a year.

I travel extensively with my MJ. I'm in Australia right now.

To me it's a thing of beauty. I can talk to my husband every day and makes my long road trips so much more bearable.

Just got mine yesterday. Pretty clear quality. Will update in a few weeks.

using mine this week, Bangkok to a USA T-mobile phones works better than my friend landline in Califoria,

for close to free its a deal for calling to friends back home ,
but I would not use it for an important business call, way to many dropped packets.

Rally

using mine this week, Bangkok to a USA T-mobile phones works better than my friend landline in Califoria,

for close to free its a deal for calling to friends back home ,
but I would not use it for an important business call, way to many dropped packets.

Rally

Yep, I think the latency to the server it connects to causes some choppy calls. I was in BKK a couple of weeks ago and had a very good internet connection but still the call quality was a bit choppy. I agree that I would not want to do a lot of biz calls on it but fine for free calls to friends etc. I also have wifi calling for my tmobile phone and that worked much better.

Do you guys just plug the hotel phone into the MJ when you're on the road? Does this work or are you bringing a compact landline phone with you?

Do you guys just plug the hotel phone into the MJ when you're on the road? Does this work or are you bringing a compact landline phone with you?If the phones are digital (and most hotel phones are), they won't work with MagicJack. MJ can be used with a plug-in phone, or with the laptop's sound system. I use mine with a small mike-and-ear piece combo.

Do you guys just plug the hotel phone into the MJ when you're on the road? Does this work or are you bringing a compact landline phone with you?

The last hotel I was at had a fax machine which I had no use for and used that because it had a handset. Also, the phones in a lot of the BKK hotels will work fine plugged into the magicjack otherwise I just use the softphone.

MJ can be used with a plug-in phone, or with the laptop's sound system. I use mine with a small mike-and-ear piece combo.

What if my laptop has bluetooth, can I use a BT headset with the MJ? And when you say it can use the laptop's sound system do you just shout at it :) ?

What if my laptop has bluetooth, can I use a BT headset with the MJ? And when you say it can use the laptop's sound system do you just shout at it :) ?
Shouting is unnecessary. If your laptop has a built-in mike, you can use that. Otherwise, plug one in. The MJ will work fine on a laptop with a Bluetooth headset.

I carry a USB microphone with me. Sometimes I need record meetings, so it serves more than one purpose.

The Logitech mic does a great job, is cheap, but is a little big. If you'd like something more compact look into the Blue Snowflake Mic.

Okay, I have had my MJ for almost a year and use it mainly for long distance during the day or when traveling abroad. I am not a techie so if anyone who uses a MJ with a headset could advise me as what to purchase, I would be appreciative. When we travel out of the country I have been bringing a small princess phone in my laptop case. It has worked as we just returned from Mexico and where our cell phones did not work or at least would only roam($$$) and was able to call my friends, family and office. It would sure be easier just to carry a headset. I am using a Toshiba laptop about 4 years old when traveling. Thanks

Finally got one and am very happy with it. We will be canceling home phone & using this as the # for vendors, etc. Only downside was not being able to keep #.

Do you guys just plug the hotel phone into the MJ when you're on the road? Does this work or are you bringing a compact landline phone with you?

this was the first trip that I used it and I just brought a cheap wallmart phone ,
its a little bigger than you would want to carry with you,

I will look for a smaller phone for the next time....

Rally

using mine this week, Bangkok to a USA T-mobile phones works better than my friend landline in Califoria,...
I used mine this past month in Thailand as well and was quite pleased with the results. Worked fine just using my netbook's microphone and speakers.

I've been using MagicJack as my sole landline service at home for a few months, now, and I've been very happy with it. However, it's really proven itself recently.

Mrs. PTravel has had to go to China because her father is very ill. I gave her my little Asus Aspire One and a MagicJack to take with her (I can't get her to take her regular laptop -- she thinks it's too big and heavy). We've been calling each other twice a day for the last two weeks or so using the MagicJacks, and it's worked out great. The calls are free (or, more accurately, included within the $20/year charge). As far as MagicJack is concerned hers in China is simply local to mine -- I dial area code and 7 digit number and it rings in her hotel room. The same in reverse -- she just dials my area code and 7-digit number and the call comes to my home. Voice quality is great -- the limiting factor is the cheap earphone and microphone I gave her. If she had a better headset/mike combination, or used a regular phone with the MagicJack, as I do at home, call quality is as good as any land line.

As I recently posted in another thread, mine worked great as well on a trip last month to SE Asia. I only used my Asus EEE 1000HE's built-in microphone and speakers, and the person on the other end said I sounded fine. I know that some people have reported having problems with the MagicJack, but thus far my experience has been terrific.

The calls are free (or, more accurately, included within the $20/year charge).Don't forget the cost of in-room Internet service. Interesting that there's no blocking of MJ in China, I thought I read someone that they block Skype, maybe they'll snag MJ if it gets a foothold in their market.

Don't forget the cost of in-room Internet service. Interesting that there's no blocking of MJ in China, I thought I read someone that they block Skype, maybe they'll snag MJ if it gets a foothold in their market.
Internet is free at Mrs. PTravel's hotel and, in any event, when I travel I always buy internet access.

I don't know about Skype, but I've used MagicJack sporadically in China before (once or twice in Shanghai) -- no blocking.

Lots of people use Skype in China.

Late December of 2008 I spoke to a client that stated that she was on a Magicjack phone line and that she was quite pleased with it. Then she told me that she had just signed up for 5 years for $50. I was impressed.

So I finaly bought a Magicjack, got a decent local number, and got it working pretty good after a few tuneups to the volume settings. Not a bad solution for providing a second line for use while working from home 2 days each week.

BTW, my cost was $31 delivered through ebay. The first year of service is included.

Magicjack seems to be offering 5 years for $60.

Does the 5 year for $50 plan ever get offered anymore? Or is the $60 offer as good as it gets now?

There is a good unofficial Magicjack forum here:

http://magicjacksupport.com/

Also dslreports.com (voip section) has an active Magicjack subgroup. If you don't get the answer here, you might want to try there.

A little late to the thread, but I took Magicjack for a spin and posted my review (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/traveltechtalk/2008/03/12/magicjack-a-must-have-for-travelers/) on the blog.

A friend of mine raved to me about MagicJack this weekend, and that in addition to your review makes me want to buy it - it's been a year and half since your review; do you have any reservations, or have any other products come out since then that excel Magic Jack?

A friend of mine raved to me about MagicJack this weekend, and that in addition to your review makes me want to buy it - it's been a year and half since your review; do you have any reservations, or have any other products come out since then that excel Magic Jack?

The only complaint I hear is that their customer service stinks. When I need my MagicJack, it works fine, but I'm also not using it 24/7 as my primary home phone service.

The only complaint I hear is that their customer service stinks. When I need my MagicJack, it works fine, but I'm also not using it 24/7 as my primary home phone service.

I use my landline rarely - probably once per month - and the bill is coming to $60+ per month. !! So while I want to keep the number, I am unwilling to continue shelling out that kind of money, not if Magic Jack works this well, for about $4 per month. :) ^

The only complaint I hear is that their customer service stinks. When I need my MagicJack, it works fine, but I'm also not using it 24/7 as my primary home phone service.I have four MJs, two of which are in continuous use, 24/7, as primary phone service. They've been working great for more than a year and a half. However, when you say "customer service stinks," you are being very politely and understating the case by half. Just assume there is no customer service -- picture an Indian Call Center accessible only by on-line chat.

Anyone ever done conference calling with MJ? Any difficulties?Limitations?

I got back from a trip to Brazil and used MagicJack:

1) Attached to suppliers personal laptop, plugged a cheapir phone and it worked just fine.

2) Went to hotel, used agents laptop and HOTEL room phone...and worked perfectly.

Dad lives in India and has a magicjack so we have an ELP number in India.

Great technology...wonder how long it will last.

I now have two of them, and use them ofte and rarely have any difficulties, I just renewed the first one, and got the 5 year 59.99 deal, so we are talking about a dollar a month, it really cannot be beat, looking at some forums I am flabbergasted at some of the service expectations some have of MJ.

Anyone ever done conference calling with MJ? Any difficulties?Limitations?

MJ blocks some 3rd party free conference calling numbers. There are lots of web postings about it. Some examples:

http://rickyspears.com/blog/2009/08/magicjack-hijacks-my-free-conference-calls-to-218-339-2500/
http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2009/09/02/16566/