Newsstand - No booze for muslims = no booze for infidels

And I thought the muslims just wanted to assimilate into western culture:

http://www.thestar.com/article/268445

That's a crock of crap. I'm Muslim and I drink like a fish. Yes it's wrong against my religion, but it's MY choice. That reasturant went out of their way to provide halal food to this idiots and now they won't eat because the reasturant serves alcohol?????

Let them starve and die..... and yes I'm a Muslim, but I also beilve in common freaking sense!

simple solution, take the halal off the menu. Send them to McMohomed's

Any reason this racist-baiting thread wasn't closed when the (suspended) OP's other thread was?

Since this thread is still open, here's my 2 ningi's.

As far as I can see, the only issue here is that the student's association won't endorse the facility. BFD! and SO what? That is their right and there is nothing wrong with their stance. I bet the vast majority of the student body that want halal food will still eat there and are extremely grateful that their university has taken a step to make life easier for them.

1. the linked article isnt "racist baiting." whenever ANYONE does stuff like this, its ridiculous.
2. to clarify #1, islam is considered a religion, and is clearly not a race.
3. of course any inflammatory/etc stuff by the OP should be closed, or moved to OMNI, etc. i presume he was suspended for such a reason.

Any reason this racist-baiting thread wasn't closed when the (suspended) OP's other thread was?

I believe talking about other members (as well as false and malicious allegations of "racism") is a TOS violation ;)

A very low post count is usually a good reason to welcome someone to FlyerTalk. Usually.

sd9121
I took the time to read all your posting,a lot of adjectives came to mind but they are not printable.But maybe you did not read books about Islam,you should before insulting another religion.I know that some stupid ignorant fundamatalists are commiting horrible crimes which i as a muslim do not approve and i will love to see them punished to the extreme allowable by law includind the death penalty.I am ashamed that the true Islam was kidnapped by those few murderes,but all religions do have some extrimists between them (remember Salt Lake city) then nobody called Christianity bad names.

Underpressure
I don't think your comment was either funny nor appropriate being an evangelist.I on the other hand have a lot of respect to Jesus,Moses,Abraham,Bhuda and all others.

This has to be a joke! Muslims are not actually REQUIRED to drink alcohol at the restaurant, so why are they complaining? If the logic of their argument is followed through, they can't eat there either because the restaurant serves non-halal food to non-muslims.

The only thing that can be done is that if the muslim community doesn't want to eat there, is there isn't any point serving halal food there.

This has to be a joke! Muslims are not actually REQUIRED to drink alcohol at the restaurant, so why are they complaining? If the logic of their argument is followed through, they can't eat there either because the restaurant serves non-halal food to non-muslims.

There are people in any religion who carry things too far. In Israel, a hotel's restaurant will not be certified as kosher by the country's rabbis if you have to push a button to use their elevators on the Sabbath.

(It is against Jewish law to start a fire on the Sabbath and making an electrical connection, which is done what you push the button, is considered to be making a fire. Instead, the elevators have to work automatically, stopping on each floor from Friday at sundown until Saturday at sundown.)

What does this thread have to do with travel?

This thread appears to have been started on the basis of the usual acceptance for bigotry when directed against "muslims and brown people".

Belittling accurate mentions of racism and other bigotry is a tactic of racists who defend bigotry against "muslims and brown people".

I don't see what this thread was intended to do other than to be used to malign muslims and peddle some kind of "they are taking over the world" paranoia.

For a moment I thought this was OMNI. ;)

Were the Muslim students aware that the restaurant was providing Halal meals for them? Did they know, in advance, that the restaurant would continue to serve alcohol? If so, someone should explain the word 'tolerance' and 'compromise' to those students.

Were the Muslim students aware that the restaurant was providing Halal meals for them? Did they know, in advance, that the restaurant would continue to serve alcohol? If so, someone should explain the word 'tolerance' and 'compromise' to those students.

those words do not exist in their beliefs !!!!

and about as easy to explain as squeezing water out of a rock !!!

I am simply outraged by the poor grammatical skills shown by a restaurant affiliated with a major academic institution! The local geographic formation honoured by the restaurant is not properly known as "the Scarborough Bluff's". :mad:

I still eat at restaurants where alcohol is served but my many of my friends don't which I admire. I just find it too difficult because 90%+ of nice restaurats serve it. The (supposed) reasoning behind not eating at restaurants that serve alcohol is that you are giving money to (and hence supporting) an establishment that gains its income from selling alcohol. I take this to mean places such as bars which I never go to, but others take this to mean all places including grocery stores etc.

Cheers,

That's a crock of crap. I'm Muslim and I drink like a fish. Yes it's wrong against my religion, but it's MY choice. That reasturant went out of their way to provide halal food to this idiots and now they won't eat because the reasturant serves alcohol?????

Let them starve and die..... and yes I'm a Muslim, but I also beilve in common freaking sense!

:rolleyes: Basically you are saying that Muslims should be accomodated in some things but should use 'common sense' in others. If someone believes that he can only eat halal meat and only eat in establishments that don't provide alcohol it is completely acceptable to not eat in a halal place which serves alcohol.

I can give a relevant example. One of my close friends was throwing a party - and he decided to use halal meat so that I would be able to eat it (^) However, he forgot that I don't drink alcohol and cooked with wine. Therefore I couldn't eat it. I can see why some people should say that I should be grateful and just eat it anyway - I was grateful but still couldn't eat it even though he went out of his way to get me halal food.

Cheers,

those words do not exist in their beliefs !!!!

and about as easy to explain as squeezing water out of a rock !!!

I don't agree with you at all. Just like Christians, Jews, etc, not all Muslims are the same as you have your strict religious factions in every religion. If the Muslim group expected the restaurant to abide 100% to their rules, then they might as well open their own restaurant.

I can give a relevant example. One of my close friends was throwing a party - and he decided to use halal meat so that I would be able to eat it (^) However, he forgot that I don't drink alcohol and cooked with wine. Therefore I couldn't eat it. I can see why some people should say that I should be grateful and just eat it anyway - I was grateful but still couldn't eat it even though he went out of his way to get me halal food.

Cheers,

As much as I understand your point, some people might label your action ungrateful, unappreciative,etc. Of course, no one can force you to eat something that goes against your beliefs, but others might see it as your friend going through all that effort for nothing. I'm not criticizing your decision, merely offering another point of view.
It just shows both sides have to be able to tolerate the other.

What does this thread have to do with travel?

This thread appears to have been started on the basis of the usual acceptance for bigotry when directed against "muslims and brown people".

Belittling accurate mentions of racism and other bigotry is a tactic of racists who defend bigotry against "muslims and brown people".

I don't see what this thread was intended to do other than to be used to malign muslims and peddle some kind of "they are taking over the world" paranoia.

You are right. It has nothing to do with travel. The article does nothing to explain why someone might consider food from a restaurant that serves halal food to be non-permissable if that restaurant also serves alcohol. As far as I am concerned there is nothing out of the ordinary or outrageous about the Muslim Student Organization not endorsing this restaurant - its a personal choice and most people don't understand that Islam is all about personal choices.

For a moment I thought this was OMNI. ;)

Well I knew it wasn't Omni :D

As much as I understand your point, some people might label your action ungrateful, unappreciative,etc. Of course, no one can force you to eat something that goes against your beliefs, but others might see it as your friend going through all that effort for nothing. I'm not criticizing your decision, merely offering another point of view.
It just shows both sides have to be able to tolerate the other.

I agree 100% and, in effect, that is what I was trying to say. My decision will come out as ungrateful and unappreciative but IMHO that is not a good enough reason for me to do something I don't believe in.

Cheers,

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As I don't see anything that pertains to earning miles or points (or any travel-related activity for that matter), I'm closing this thread.

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