Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - My first FIRST on CX - which flight?




Fliar
Oct 8, 07, 8:43 pm
I have about 92,000 orphaned miles with Qantas that I'd like to use for a CX flight in F.

Which route would be the best value for points?

My aim is to connect through HKG to use the F lounges and to sample 'real' F service, if possible. I can fly from almost anywhere in Asia to almost anywhere as I can usually tie it in with business or leisure some time.

Thanks!


Capricorn70
Oct 8, 07, 8:56 pm
I'd think you might want to consider a few things:

1) equipment - 747 would be preferable in my book ^ for the intimacy and privacy of the forward cabin

2) flight time - you'd want a long enough flight to sample different meals :-:

3) time of day - an all-night flight where sleeping time takes up most of the flight wouldn't give you as much service from the f/a's as a daytime flight

Have I missed anything? :eek:

Cap70

stratofortress
Oct 8, 07, 9:34 pm
I'd think you might want to consider a few things:

1) equipment - 747 would be preferable in my book ^ for the intimacy and privacy of the forward cabin

2) flight time - you'd want a long enough flight to sample different meals :-:

3) time of day - an all-night flight where sleeping time takes up most of the flight wouldn't give you as much service from the f/a's as a daytime flight

Have I missed anything? :eek:

Cap70

4) Having flown in both the old FC and the new FC, I'd look for a route that would give you a good chance of getting the new First Class.


kchika
Oct 9, 07, 5:41 am
The new F is only on LHR, LAX, YVR and JFK at the moment. Just out of curiousity, how many miles do you need for a CX F award using QF miles?

Fliar
Oct 10, 07, 7:55 pm
Thank you for the replies. Yes, I figured those would be the deciding factors. The trouble is matching that to a specific flight/route.

Any suggestions?

(kchika, mileage obviously differs based on distance flown but my 95K miles gets me up to 4,800 miles in F).

GoldFlyer
Oct 11, 07, 1:28 am
The new F is only on LHR, LAX, YVR and JFK at the moment. Just out of curiousity, how many miles do you need for a CX F award using QF miles?

Where did you get that info from? It's my understanding that only HKG/LHR/HKG is currently offering the new product - and not on all flights.

How many QF points do you have is the more pertinent question. You might have enough points for a HKG/TPE flight or something more substantial.

You can check out where you can go by logging into your QF account and clicking on the "where can I go" button.

Fliar
Oct 11, 07, 4:12 am
How many QF points do you have is the more pertinent question.

As I mentioned in my first post, I have about 92000

You can check out where you can go by logging into your QF account and clicking on the "where can I go" button.

Actually, that only works for Qantas flights afaik.

kchika
Oct 11, 07, 11:23 am
Where did you get that info from? It's my understanding that only HKG/LHR/HKG is currently offering the new product - and not on all flights.
The new product is already on CX888/9 (HKG-YVR-JFK and v.v) daily. From 3rd November, the 77A will operate the nonstop JFK CX840/1. LAX will be offered with new products on CX884/5 towards the end of the year.

For non MPO members, award redemptions on these routes are all very difficult... :(

GoldFlyer
Oct 12, 07, 2:33 am
CX website still shows only 2 ac with 74A and 4 with premium product. Am I missing something here or are CX upgrading certain equipment for different routes as in 74A and 74 premium - upgraded J but same same F and Y?

kchika
Oct 12, 07, 5:22 am
CX website still shows only 2 ac with 74A and 4 with premium product. Am I missing something here or are CX upgrading certain equipment for different routes as in 74A and 74 premium - upgraded J but same same F and Y?
HKF just came back from XMN so that makes 4 a/c fitted with new products - HKT, HOT, HKU and HKF - these are 74As.

There are 4 74Js. They have larger J cabins ("old" J though) and are mainly used on the LAX route.

Fliar
Oct 12, 07, 6:49 am
Although getting the new F would be great, it is not my main concern. As mentioned it will be difficult to get seats as a non MPO member. Also I don't have enough miles for the longer routes.

So, which of the 'longer short' routes (up to 4800 miles) gives the best CX F experience?

Thanks!

kchika
Oct 12, 07, 5:05 pm
So, which of the 'longer short' routes (up to 4800 miles) gives the best CX F experience?

Thanks!
Within 4800 miles, SYD and MEL would give you the longest distance (4592 and 4606 respectively). Next up would be DXB, which is 3677 miles.

GoldFlyer
Oct 12, 07, 5:32 pm
Within 4800 miles, SYD and MEL would give you the longest distance (4592 and 4606 respectively). Next up would be DXB, which is 3677 miles.

Pick carefully if you are selecting SYD or MEL CX use A340's so it might not be to your liking. I hear also that CX will eventually go to 2-class services to AUS so if you are booking your flight a long way out you might be unpleasantly surprised that your F award becomes J.

Fliar
Oct 12, 07, 9:49 pm
Excellent points, GoldFlyer. Any other route you would recommend instead? Maybe SIN-HKG-NRT?

sjohan01
Oct 12, 07, 10:51 pm
Pick carefully if you are selecting SYD or MEL CX use A340's so it might not be to your liking. I hear also that CX will eventually go to 2-class services to AUS so if you are booking your flight a long way out you might be unpleasantly surprised that your F award becomes J.

Good point, was on CX101 from HK to Sydney two days back and had two-class service only.

kchika
Oct 13, 07, 2:25 am
Pick carefully if you are selecting SYD or MEL CX use A340's so it might not be to your liking. I hear also that CX will eventually go to 2-class services to AUS so if you are booking your flight a long way out you might be unpleasantly surprised that your F award becomes J.SYD and MEL use A330s, not A340s. CX111/0 is still 3-class A333 while CX101/0 and CX138/9 has gone A33B with new J and Y.

GoldFlyer
Oct 15, 07, 1:58 am
SYD and MEL use A330s, not A340s. CX111/0 is still 3-class A333 while CX101/0 and CX138/9 has gone A33B with new J and Y.

My bad on the A340 thing but the op still needs to be careful about booking a flight to AUS as they are all tipped to go 2-class eventually. Sad in many respects but...



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