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keepreosellinas
Sep 22, 07, 1:30 pm
I had an intuition that it would be extended today. Some interesting stuff.
OAK-FLL is being dropped.
JFK-CLT/RDU/RIC/CMH/PIT all lose one frquency and go down to 3x.
IAD-LGB loses a frequency and goes down to 3x.
OAK-FLL is being dropped.
JFK-CLT/RDU/RIC/CMH/PIT all lose one frquency and go down to 3x.
IAD-LGB loses a frequency and goes down to 3x.
Seat13c
Sep 22, 07, 1:43 pm
I had an intuition that it would be extended today. Some interesting stuff.
OAK-FLL is being dropped.
JFK-CLT/RDU/RIC/CMH/PIT all lose one frquency and go down to 3x.
IAD-LGB loses a frequency and goes down to 3x.
In a way, I'm suprised OAK-FLL was around for this long. I just didn't imagine that was a route that's in high demand. Nevertheless, I'm wondering if these schedule cuts have anything to do with October's "big announcement?" :D:eek::D
OAK-FLL is being dropped.
JFK-CLT/RDU/RIC/CMH/PIT all lose one frquency and go down to 3x.
IAD-LGB loses a frequency and goes down to 3x.
In a way, I'm suprised OAK-FLL was around for this long. I just didn't imagine that was a route that's in high demand. Nevertheless, I'm wondering if these schedule cuts have anything to do with October's "big announcement?" :D:eek::D
keepreosellinas
Sep 22, 07, 2:48 pm
Well, rumor has it that FLL-SFO is one route slated for launch fairly soon. Maybe that has to do with FLL-OAK being slashed.
And yes, this schedule extension certainly helps us figure out what "big announcement" will occur in October. With one frequency being cut on JFK-CMH/RIC/CLT/RDU, BUF-BOS, and IAD-LGB, JetBlue is going to have some flying to make up for if it wants to keep its fleet utilization high. Methinks that the E190s operating those routes are poised to go to the West.
And yes, this schedule extension certainly helps us figure out what "big announcement" will occur in October. With one frequency being cut on JFK-CMH/RIC/CLT/RDU, BUF-BOS, and IAD-LGB, JetBlue is going to have some flying to make up for if it wants to keep its fleet utilization high. Methinks that the E190s operating those routes are poised to go to the West.
Seat13c
Sep 22, 07, 3:14 pm
Well, rumor has it that FLL-SFO is one route slated for launch fairly soon. Maybe that has to do with FLL-OAK being slashed.
And yes, this schedule extension certainly helps us figure out what "big announcement" will occur in October. With one frequency being cut on JFK-CMH/RIC/CLT/RDU, BUF-BOS, and IAD-LGB, JetBlue is going to have some flying to make up for if it wants to keep its fleet utilization high. Methinks that the E190s operating those routes are poised to go to the West.
I'm guessing it will be either the E190's are going west or MCO is a major hub for B6...if not both. As far any other rumors go, especially some of the ones that were referrenced on a.net, I'd say there's a 97.5% it is not going to happen. But that's just my 2 cents.
And yes, this schedule extension certainly helps us figure out what "big announcement" will occur in October. With one frequency being cut on JFK-CMH/RIC/CLT/RDU, BUF-BOS, and IAD-LGB, JetBlue is going to have some flying to make up for if it wants to keep its fleet utilization high. Methinks that the E190s operating those routes are poised to go to the West.
I'm guessing it will be either the E190's are going west or MCO is a major hub for B6...if not both. As far any other rumors go, especially some of the ones that were referrenced on a.net, I'd say there's a 97.5% it is not going to happen. But that's just my 2 cents.
jetBlueNYFL
Sep 22, 07, 4:02 pm
Interesting finds. I really hope they add FLL-LAS, even if its 1x. I think it would do great, even with DL and US on the route.
MAH4546
Sep 23, 07, 10:52 pm
In a way, I'm suprised OAK-FLL was around for this long. I just didn't imagine that was a route that's in high demand. Nevertheless, I'm wondering if these schedule cuts have anything to do with October's "big announcement?" :D:eek::D
There is plenty of demand between Ft. Lauderdale and Oakland (and jetBlue's 85%+ loads on the route show it). These connect the secondary airports of two of the country's largest cities.
FLL-SFO will replace it.
There is plenty of demand between Ft. Lauderdale and Oakland (and jetBlue's 85%+ loads on the route show it). These connect the secondary airports of two of the country's largest cities.
FLL-SFO will replace it.
JetBlueFA
Sep 24, 07, 8:34 am
A lot of the west coast cities see winter reductions from us as we redeploy the 320s to the north-south flying because of the high demand from the snow birds heading to Florida for the winter.
Seat13c
Sep 24, 07, 9:25 am
There is plenty of demand between Ft. Lauderdale and Oakland (and jetBlue's 85%+ loads on the route show it). These connect the secondary airports of two of the country's largest cities.
FLL-SFO will replace it.
I didn't realise the demand was that high. If the route is holding 85+% cap, why move it from OAK to SFO?
FLL-SFO will replace it.
I didn't realise the demand was that high. If the route is holding 85+% cap, why move it from OAK to SFO?
MAH4546
Sep 24, 07, 10:59 am
I didn't realise the demand was that high. If the route is holding 85+% cap, why move it from OAK to SFO?
1,529 people fly between South Florida and San Francisco, making it one of the country's 100 most traveled air corridors. Oakland-Ft. Lauderdale, in itself, sees 306 passengers a day. You are going to likely see a shift in focus from Oakland to San Francisco.
1,529 people fly between South Florida and San Francisco, making it one of the country's 100 most traveled air corridors. Oakland-Ft. Lauderdale, in itself, sees 306 passengers a day. You are going to likely see a shift in focus from Oakland to San Francisco.
LoneStarMike
Sep 25, 07, 9:49 pm
There is plenty of demand between Ft. Lauderdale and Oakland (and jetBlue's 85%+ loads on the route show it).
How are you figuring jetBlue to be filling 85% of it's seats on this route?
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
How are you figuring jetBlue to be filling 85% of it's seats on this route?
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
MAH4546
Sep 26, 07, 4:20 am
How are you figuring jetBlue to be filling 85% of it's seats on this route?
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
They get a very good amount of connecting pax to/from LGB, notably those who wanted to leave Long Beach in the evening to arrive in FLL at night.
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
They get a very good amount of connecting pax to/from LGB, notably those who wanted to leave Long Beach in the evening to arrive in FLL at night.
Seat13c
Sep 26, 07, 8:55 am
How are you figuring jetBlue to be filling 85% of it's seats on this route?
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
Mike- you might be onto something. That's was what I was hearing also.
I've looked at the latest 3 quarters on DOT's Consumer Airfare report (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm) and I'm unable to come up with anything near an 85% load factor for B6 on the OAK-FLL city-pair. Maybe I'm figuring it wrong?
Q3 2006 - an average of 282.60 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.44% or about 179 passengers per day (80 each way) 80 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 53.3% of available seats filled.
Q4 2006 - an average of 306.30 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 63.34% or about 194 passengers per day (97 each way) 97 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 64.7% of available seats filled.
Q1 2007 - an average of 330.44 passengers per day traveled between the two airports. B6's share was 66.03% or about 218 passengers per day (109 each way) 109 passengers in each direction divided by 150 seats on the plane comes out to about 72.66% of available seats filled.
Are additional seats being filled by folks flying from OAK to FLL to connect to somewhere else? It doesn't seem like FLL would be a logical connection point from someone flying from OAK, but maybe I'm wrong.
What am I missing here?
Mike
Mike- you might be onto something. That's was what I was hearing also.