South - NEWS: Barrow County Georgia Eyed as Site for Second Atlanta Airport




The Juiceman
Aug 11, 07, 11:43 pm
From the 8/12/07 edition of the Athens Banner/Herald:

Airport council revived
Group created in '89 to find area site for flights
By Blake Aued | Staff Writer | Story updated at 11:55 PM on Sunday, August 12, 2007

Sparked by Atlanta's need for a second airport, business and government leaders are reviving a long-dormant commission to try to bring a regional airport to Northeast Georgia - and Barrow County is the early favorite to host it.

Surviving members of the Northeast Georgia Surface and Air Transportation Commission, created by the state legislature in 1989, will hold their first meeting in 15 years Aug. 23 and ask officials from 13 counties and eight cities to appoint new members. The reconstituted group then will seek state and federal funding for studies and scout sites for a 20- or 24-gate airport that could offer flights to 20 to 40 cities and draw passengers from the north Atlanta suburbs to the South Carolina line.

As it did in the early 1990s, though, advocates of a regional airport will face a tough task convincing skeptical politicians, under pressure from voters who fear noise and traffic, that building such an airport is a good idea.

A regional airport would make flying more convenient for Athenians who now travel two hours to Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport in Atlanta or to Greenville, S.C., Athens-Clarke Mayor Heidi Davison said, but she immediately ruled out expanding Athens-Ben Epps Airport or building a new airport in Clarke County. There's not enough open land around the 400-acre airport, and residents would never accept it, she said.

"I just don't see that happening, given the multitude of barriers in place to put an airport in Athens," Davison said.

"They're not desirable," she said. "Nobody wants to live next to an airport, and I can't blame them."

A 10,000-acre tract off Interstate 85 in Jackson County was one of three sites the original transportation commission touted, along with 10,000 acres the city of Atlanta owns in Dawson County and an expansion of Gwinnett County's Briscoe Field.

"I must have gotten 500 letters" opposing the airport, Jim Dove, director of the Northeast Georgia Regional Development Center, recalled.

One of the opponents was Jackson County Commission Chairwoman Pat Bell, who helped fight efforts to bring an airport to the I-85 site before she was elected to office.

"We had a lot of citizens who opposed that airport," Bell said. "I believe in citizen input, and I'd have to listen to my folks on that."

Barrow County Commission Chairman Doug Garrison, though, said he is open to talks about expanding his county's airport, a 450-acre facility that soon will extend one of its two runways to 7,000 feet, long enough for medium-sized jets to land and take off fully loaded. Barrow County officials long have pushed to make the former Winder-Barrow Airport the pre-eminent one in the area, even renaming it Northeast Georgia Regional Airport in 2005. And there is enough undeveloped land between the airport and Georgia Highway 316 to expand it even farther, Garrison said.

"The potential is there if the support is there," he said.

Members of the transportation commission have no specific site in mind, nor have they ruled any out, Vice Chairman E.H. Culpepper said.

"All we're doing is starting a dialog," he said.

Talk of a regional airport started up again after Delta Air Lines exited bankruptcy recently and Atlanta received a $1 million federal grant to study an overflow airport for Hartsfield, one of the busiest in the country. So far, officials have mentioned Macon, Chattanooga, Tenn., Dawson County and 10,000 acres Atlanta owns in Paulding County as potential sites. A call to Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin's office was not returned.

Each site has its drawbacks, though, according to University of Georgia economist Jeff Humphreys, who wrote a study in 1992 naming the I-85 corridor east of Atlanta as the best place for a second Atlanta airport.

Chattanooga is 100 miles away from Atlanta and many of the jobs and dollars associated with an airport would go to Tennessee rather than Georgia if it's built there. Residential growth is quickly swallowing up land around the Paulding County site. The Dawson County site was dropped because the terrain is difficult to build on, according to Culpepper. And Macon is on the wrong side of Atlanta to serve passengers from the city's populous northern suburbs.

The original transportation commission had the power to condemn land and issue bonds, and consisted of representatives from Banks, Barrow, Clarke, Elbert, Greene, Hall, Jackson, Madison, Morgan, Oconee, Oglethorpe, Stephens and Walton counties, and the cities of Athens, Commerce, Elberton, Gainesville, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Winder.

It stopped meeting in 1992, after the Federal Aviation Administration awarded Georgia a $1.8 million grant for a statewide feasibility study, rather than one focused on Northeast Georgia, Culpepper said. The second airport was never built because Hartsfield added a fifth runway and increased its capacity.

A sixth runway at Hartsfield is unlikely, so now is the time to start the 10- or 20-year process of planning and building a new airport, Humphreys said.

"The overall message is the same, but the timing has changed," he said. "In other words, there's still a need for a second airport, the need is just not as great."

Humphreys' original study said a regional airport would create more than 47,000 jobs and bring $2.6 billion in 1990 dollars to the region, figures he said now are long out of date.


Published in the Athens Banner-Herald on 081207


gj83
Sep 15, 07, 8:46 pm
All my family lives in Gwinnett County and it would be nice to not have to fight downtown Atlanta traffic to get to Hartsfield-Jackson, but at the same time, what city is not currently served by ATL? Who would this airport be for? Southwest and jetBlue?

fly4funsea
Sep 23, 07, 3:01 am
Couldn't Dl or Air Tran move some flights to the new airport to relieve congestion in Atlanta? Maybe make the smaller airport a commuter run for the east coast and some of the other southern states and have ATL be the main airport for point to points? Hope that made sense :p Keep in mind I've only flown throw ATL once and that was this last July.


NorcrossFlyer
Sep 26, 07, 8:47 pm
The Athens airport is THE greatest airport. I worked there for US Airways when I was at UGA.

The airport has (had?) 4-5 flights a day to Charlotte, which is only 45 minutes away. From there you could get anywhere else you needed to go. Typically, flights only cost $30 more than a comparable fare out of ATL (This was almost 10 years ago, so things might have changed). What you got in exchange for $30 was free parking, a 50 ft walk from the parking lot to the "terminal" and no more than 10 people in line at "Security".

I would often work the night shift and I loved freaking people out. I was the ONLY person working in the airport. I would bring in the plane, unload the bags, unload the passangers, then assist the passengers with lost bags, etc. People would freak when they figured out I was the only person in the entire airport.

Since I now live in GwinnCo, I would LOVE to see a new airport on the north side of town. If this deal doesn't pan out, the City of Atlanta owns property in Dawson County that was purchased decades ago for the purpose of building another airport. Anyone know the status on that?

ninerfan
Sep 26, 07, 9:04 pm
I live in Barrow county and I don't see it happenin any time soon. Barrow county doesn't have anywhere near the infrasructure in place to support even a small commercial airport.

The county seat, Winder has a population of maybe 15000 and is really a very rural town. The highway that runs from Atlanta to Athens (GA 316) is already taxed during most hours of the day. The highway isnt even limited access, there are traffic lights every few miles.

This is still a pretty rural area and I pesonally don't think we will see anything for at least 10-15 years if ever

rwsatl
Sep 27, 07, 8:31 am
The highway that runs from Atlanta to Athens (GA 316) is already taxed during most hours of the day. The highway isnt even limited access, there are traffic lights every few miles.

This may have been one of the dumbest things GADOT ever did (and that my friend is saying something!). Anyone who travels thru that area could have told them 15yrs ago that that new highway should be constructed as limited access. Then just a few yrs after its completion GADOT figured this out. I think after the new interchange between GA 316 and I 85 is completed they will start work on retrofitting GA 316 completly to limited access. What a glorious waste of time and tax payer $$$$$ :mad:.

Tripodxxl
Sep 27, 07, 9:45 pm
I grew up in Atlanta, and fly there about 10 times a year and am fascianated that no one ever discusses the US Air Flight to Athens, I follow the industry closely, but I mean no one EVER discusses that flight. I have considered it a few times, but is usually expensive and requires a change at CLT. I would think that the population growth in Gwinnett would encourage more US Air flights to other destinations at the very least.

It also suprises me that other airlines don't see Athens as a great opportunity.

Macon is in a similar situation because of the population growth South of ATL.

woody125
Oct 3, 07, 5:09 pm
I grew up in Atlanta, and fly there about 10 times a year and am fascianated that no one ever discusses the US Air Flight to Athens, I follow the industry closely, but I mean no one EVER discusses that flight. I have considered it a few times, but is usually expensive and requires a change at CLT. I would think that the population growth in Gwinnett would encourage more US Air flights to other destinations at the very least.

It also suprises me that other airlines don't see Athens as a great opportunity.

Macon is in a similar situation because of the population growth South of ATL.

I've mentioned it a number of times but there is a big old BUT!

I live in Monroe which is closer to AHN than ATL but the mere fact that it is US Air keeps me from ever/even/under any circumstances considering it. An ATL to AHN run on a 50 seater though would be more than fine with me.

In this (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8504716#post8504716) post there is talk about Wings Air flying in early 2008 from Briscoe to Hartsfield. I am all for that.



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