Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners) - New- Miles do not expire now even with foreign LH credit cards

Now, even with an non-German LH credit card, miles do not expire. See here:

http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/programm/member_and_credit_cards?l=en&nodeid=1920330&ctest=96807496701

"From now on, you enjoy another benefit: your award miles, which are currently on your Miles & More account and those you will earn in the future remain valid for an unlimted period of time and will no longer expire. Miles will remain valid for an unlimited period provided that you make a miles-related purchase at least once a month and have held a Miles & More credit card for at least three months. Your miles will have unlimited validity with effect from September 30, 2007.

Cards from the following countries/banks included: Austria, Greece - Piraeus Bank, United Kingdom - MBNA Europe, Italy - Unicredit Clarima Banca, Japan - UFJ Nicos, Croatia, Netherlands - Paysquare, Poland - Citibank, Portugal - CGD, Russia - ZAO Citibank, Switzerland, Turkey -DenizBank, Hungary - MKB Bank"

Thanks for the ...kool news jkoul:p

BofA and the US card doesn't participate, as expected :rolleyes:

Also Diners, wow ^

This does come with a few conditions, however:



Your award miles will not expire after 36 months, but will remain valid for an unlimited time if you meet the following conditions:

You are a Miles & More Credit Card holder for at least 3 months, and
Each month you need to have minimum 1 purchase with the
Miles & More Credit Card (incl. partner card) which is eligible for miles - First time, the mileage decay defers as of September 30, 2007

None of your award miles will expire - it doesn't matter if you earned/will earn them with flights, purchases or specials offered by other Miles & More partners
Expired miles cannot be reactivated by using the Miles & More Credit Card.
Reversion to mileage expiration: If one of the above conditions is not met, the mileage expiry is reactivated. The reversion will be announced in your Miles & More account statement and will become effective as of the following quarter. Award miles that were exempted from expiration and/or would have normally expired during this time will remain valid until then.
Mileage expiry will be suspended under the above mentioned conditions for the following Miles & More Credit Cards: (...)



The German card is not listed, so either just having the card will keep your miles safe, or this feature was removed during the enhancement.

HTB.

The German card is not listed, so either just having the card will keep your miles safe, or this feature was removed during the enhancement.


I would not worry about the German cards, because it clearly says in the title "Miles & More credit cards abroad", while being on the German website.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the thread title is still quite misleading, because this feature doesn't seem to pertain to all foreign LH credit cards.

The USA Miles & More credit card does not appear on the list offering this benefit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the thread title is still quite misleading, because this feature doesn't seem to pertain to all foreign LH credit cards.

The USA Miles & More credit card does not appear on the list offering this benefit.

Why? I don't see the word "all" in the thread title. :confused:
If my math is correct, the non-expiration feature now works in 14 of 15 countries where M&M offers CCs.

Or was the title changed between your and my post? Nah, that's unlikely, only 2 minutes time difference...

Why? I don't see the word "all" in the thread title. :confused:

Ditto. Both the title and the OP are carefully worded.

Why? I don't see the word "all" in the thread title. :confused:
Or was the title changed between your and my post? Nah, that's unlikely, only 2 minutes time difference...

In common English usage, the absence of "all" does not mean that limitation is intended. Normally, "all" is inferred in the absence of a modifier like "some" or "European" or "certain". This is why in advertising there is fine print or the use of the words 'selected', etc. to modify this inference of "all".

Title never had the word "all" in it :)

It is unfortunately though true that the US credit cards do not yet have the benefit of non-expiration. Our US based friends nevertheless, do have other perks... :)

In common English usage

Thanks for the clarification.
Unfortunately, we don't use common English in this very forum. ;) Ask szg for details.
Anyhow, andre1970 already put the fine print in post#2. :)

Our US based friends nevertheless, do have other perks... :)
The most important of which being 1.3622 (right now) miles per € spent :o

In common English usage, the absence of "all" does not mean that limitation is intended. Normally, "all" is inferred in the absence of a modifier like "some" or "European" or "certain". This is why in advertising there is fine print or the use of the words 'selected', etc. to modify this inference of "all".
But here we love precision;)!

After all, judging from the terseness/dryness of the OP (which I like, BTW), allow me to cast my doubts as to whether jkoul is genuinely passioned about finally landing that ad-blurb writer job...

In common English usage, the absence of "all" does not mean that limitation is intended. Normally, "all" is inferred..
Whilst we are in semantics-obsession mode, shouldn't the purists among us orbit around the use of "foreign" :p? As anything foreign in FT common English means non-US.

By this added level of bean-counting, the OP's title returns to correctness - as the statement now holds for non-US and hence foreign cards - and every representative of the FT lingua pura committee can exult again.
As we see, all we lack here is an augmented degree of finickiness :D .

The most important of which being 1.3622 (right now) miles per € spent :o

I can do better: 1.675 miles per Euro spent :p

HTB.

I can do better: 1.675 miles per Euro spent :p

HTB.
But if I convert my SPG AMEX points into M&L I get 1.7027 miles per Euro spent :p:p

But if I convert my SPG AMEX points into M&L I get 1.7027 miles per Euro spent :p:p

And if I fill up my car in the U.S. and use my UA credit card, I get 2.70 miles per EUR spent! :p