TalkBoard Topics - Proposal: New Forum for Finnair PLUS

Since Finnair is getting bigger and bigger player for Asian routes I think it's time for Finnair to get their own forum in FT.

In the latest news it was told that AY is also the third biggest feeder for Asian traffic inside Europe.

There has also been a lot of discussion in SAS Eurobonus forum about Finnair as an OT discussions.

Please consider making Finnair Plus an own forum!

Rgrds,
Q400

There has also been an fair amount of discussion about AY on BA as well.

Q400, I have a predisposition towards giving national flag carriers their own forum, but I have to have some reason to believe that there will be at least a cadre of posters who will utilize that forum. If there isn't, it will not have a chance of survival.

I have to wonder if Finland, with a population of only 5.2 million people (even less than Israel!), has that cadre on FlyerTalk. I am especially concerned because of the Finns that I have known, all studied Swedish as their second language, not English.

I will support your request on TalkBoard if 25 FTers post in this thread saying both of the following:

a. They are members of Finnair Plus.
b. They will be regular posters on a new forum.

I want to make clear two things, however. The first is that I am only 1 of the 9 TB members and I can in no way guarantee that if this happens it will convince any of the other members. The second is that I may support it even without these 25 posters but I would have to be shown some additional reasons indicating that the forum is viable.

I have to wonder if Finland, with a population of only 5.2 million people (even less than Israel!), has that cadre on FlyerTalk. I am especially concerned because of the Finns that I have known, all studied Swedish as their second language, not English.

Actually majority of the Finns start studying English on the third grade of the comprehensive school. As a Finn I don't no anyone not speaking English except some people over 60.

Some of the ads made in Finland for Finnish market are in English not to mention that all the English programs have subtitles in TV/movies (no dubbing).

I shall advertise this thread in SAS Eurobonus/ Other European Airline... forums. Hope you other guys can help to spread the word too!

Let's see what we can come up with.

I would find it more important that all AY threads in the SK and BA forums are moved to the Other European Frequent Flyer Programs forum. For example, I am mildly interested in AY, but do not monitor the BA or SK forums (as I never thought that AY would be discussed there). Instead, I am subscribed to the Other European Frequent Flyer Programs forum so it seems like I am missing out on AY news.

In the Other European Frequent Flyer Programs, it seems like there is more discussion about AZ and IB than about AY - so in some sense it would be strange to have a forum for AY but not for AZ and IB.

SmilingBoy.

in some sense it would be strange to have a forum for AY but not for AZ and IB.


SmilingBoy, you are behind the times. As of yesterday, AZ has its own forum.

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I have been posting on AY and promise to continue to do so wherever it is discussed :) I am a member of Finnair Plus (currently basic member, but have been Silver on times).

Q400,

I will support your request on TalkBoard if 25 FTers post in this thread saying both of the following:

a. They are members of Finnair Plus.
b. They will be regular posters on a new forum.
.

a) yes
b) yes

I guess would fulfill the criteria as well, got an AY Plus tier card (somehow omitted from the profile) and might post some insights from my friend in AY management.

That's four. Let's get 21 more of you and then, not only will I be convinced, I will at least have something to take before TalkBoard.

In the meantime, try to dig out some more arguments as well. A large number of threads about Finnair which are currently being misposted, would be good.

SmilingBoy, you are behind the times. As of yesterday, AZ has its own forum.Oops! Stay away from FT for a weekend and then that...

Count me as someone who will ask a few questions on Finnair sometime when I have enough Eurostar points to transfer to SN to redeem on AY. :p

SmilingBoy.

... I will support your request on TalkBoard if 25 FTers post in this thread saying both of the following:

a. They are members of Finnair Plus.
b. They will be regular posters on a new forum..I can answer "yes" on both counts, but I don't think membership in Finnair Plus should be a prerequisite.

I fly several segments annually on AY but post mileage to AA. I don't think that excludes me from having an interest in anything AY-related.

I can answer "yes" on both counts, but I don't think membership in Finnair Plus should be a prerequisite.

I fly several segments annually on AY but post mileage to AA. I don't think that excludes me from having an interest in anything AY-related.

Of course you might have an interest in thing related to AY. I would never support this forum if I thought that only those who are Finnair Plus members would post on it.

But keep in mind that, firstly, all forums are dedicated to FF programs and that explains why I would want at to see at least 25 members of the program in favor of it. Secondly, it will be those who are Finnair Plus members who will be the heart of the forum -- and have the knowledge to answer the questions that non-members will ask.

a) Finnair Silver
b) I will post :)

a) Finnair Silver
b) Will post regularly

Cheers,
T.

I've only recently joined, so this is my first post, BUT as a Finnair Platinum member would be interested in seeing an AY forum and will contribute!

member and would post

It is good to see Finnair Plus members saying they will be active posters in the forum, if it is established. Again, I repeat my promise that if 25 FTers say they are Finnair frequent flyers who will be using the forum, I will recommend that TalkBoard give you the forum.

However, I want to remind you of two other things I said:


I am only 1 of the 9 TB members and I can in no way guarantee that if this happens it will convince any of the other members.

In the meantime, try to dig out some more arguments as well. A large number of threads about Finnair which are currently being misposted, would be good.

During the recent debate about establishing an Alitalia Forum alex0683de made the below post. It was very effective in showing TalkBoard that AZ threads were being started, in serious numbers, but that they were not getting the kind of attention that they would in an Alitalia Forum.

If one of you does this kind of research regarding Finnair, and posts it here, I believe that TalkBoard will give it heavy weight in making its decision.


OK, I just did another search for "Alitalia" and went through the 500 threads the search function returned (that seems to be the maximum, this search took me back to mid-January 2007.

So in the last 6 months, there have been 48 threads started that were solely about Alitalia. There were also a number of threads (roughly 20) that were about Alitalia and something else, but would have been on-topic in an Alitalia forum if it existed.

Of the 48 threads that were solely Alitalia, 41 were in the Other European FFPs forum.

The six of the other seven were to be found in the SkyTeam,TravelBuzz! and Newsstand forums. These would have been better suited to the Other European FFPs or an Alitalia forum. All of these threads had comparatively few responses.

The last of these seven threads was in the India forum - a question about Alitalia at BOM. This thread went unanswered.


The one thing all threads I found had in common was that they were usually very short, without the sort of detailed answers you get on other forums dedicated to a particular airline. To me, this suggests that a lot of threads are dropping off the radar rather quickly and that they were not seen in time by the resident experts.


Based on this search, I can see that there definitely is an interest in discussing Alitalia, and get the impression that the discussion of Alitalia may be hampered by the current set-up.

By the way, I have the list of threads available for anyone who wants to look at it. PM me, I'll send it to you.

What qualifies one as regular? I usually only lurk in all fora here anyway, but do post occasionally if I have something to say. However, I do think I would post at AY forum regularly by my own standards :D So:

1) yes
2) yes

Though, despite being AY+ meber for almost 10 years, I nowadays post everything to AA... It's a more general grey area here, I think, which forum to post in case of airlines with pretty bad FF programmes, but interesting product otherwise... I think most AY-related posts at BA forum have actually had some connection to EC. I mean, one can be frequen flyer with AY but not necessarily member of they FF programme. :)

Below are some statistics indicating interest in Finnair:

Threads with the word "Finnair" in the title last six months:
42 threads, 356 posts, 22000+ views

Threads with the word Finnair appearing in the posts in last six months:
269

Posts with the word Finnair in the text in last six months:
477

Compared to some airlines (such as e.g. Varig) that have their own forums, the numbers compare favorably.

A few bit more fuzzy numbers (these are sample-based estimates; not exact but should be close):

More than 200 people have posted on Finnair in the past 6 months, and more than 50 of these multiple times. Furthermore, as this thread already has shown, there are quite a few lurkers that could be drawn out if there was a Finnair forum.

Given Finnair's continued growth and especially its importance in traffic to the Far East, there is likely to be increasing interest in Finnair. Also, as already pointed out, a dedicated Finnair forum would make it more likely to have direct Finnair participation and that would give us a better means of communicating to and influencing Finnair for the common good.

Cheers,
Thalassa

Thanks Thalassa for the research - I was just about to do it myself.

Glad to see already so many have been interested for establishing this forum! ^

Well, as if I didn't have other things to do, I collected the threads from past 6 months with word 'Finnair' in the title:



Thread
Thread Starter *** Last Post ***
Replies *** Views *** Forum

Finnair PLUS forumproposed to FT (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705586)
Q400 started Yesterday *** Today 12:02 pm by NoWindowSeat ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=705586) ***
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Proposal: NewForum for Finnair PLUS (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705540)
Q400 started Yesterday *** Today 11:30 am by Q400 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=705540) ***
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OT: FT Forum forFinnair PLUS (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705582)
Q400 started Yesterday *** Yesterday 4:16 pm by Q400 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=705582) ***
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OT: Good dealsfrom Finnair ex-ARN/GOT (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673654)( 1 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673654)2 ("http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673654&page=2&highlight=finnair))
AHO started Mar 21, 07 *** Jun 18, 07 11:34 am by Q400 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=673654) ***
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Finnair Jclass? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680185)
sinner7 started Apr 8, 07 *** Jun 16, 07 3:52 pm by OH-LGG ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=680185) ***
20 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=680185"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***1,417 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Aerlingus, Finnairintra-europe=painful? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703280)
JohnAx started Jun 12, 07 *** Jun 16, 07 2:21 am by JohnAx ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=703280) ***
6 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=703280"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***309 *** oneworld (forumdisplay.php?f=411"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


AppropriateComplaint Process for Finnair (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703148)
neil_g63 started Jun 12, 07 *** Jun 13, 07 6:56 am by neil_g63 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=703148) ***
6 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=703148"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***276 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Today Only Gbp249Mumbai On Finnair (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702552)
clansey1973 started Jun 10, 07 *** Jun 11, 07 8:01 pm by nomad1974 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=702552) ***
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Finnair toMumbai (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=698616)
shocka started May 30, 07 *** Jun 9, 07 10:41 pm by AJLondon ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=698616) ***
8 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=698616"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***531 *** oneworld (forumdisplay.php?f=411"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair gets their1st new A340 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699371)
norse_aztec started Jun 1, 07 *** Jun 1, 07 10:11 pm by tsastor ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=699371) ***
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An era is over:Finnair sells their last two MD11s (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=693601)(1 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=693601)2 ("http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=693601&page=2&highlight=finnair))
tommy777 started May 16, 07 *** May 31, 07 10:18 pm by tommy777 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=693601) ***
49 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=693601"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***2,037 *** SASEuroBonus (forumdisplay.php?f=499"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair fare codesfor redemption on AAdvantage. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=697752)
chris78cpr started May 28, 07 *** May 28, 07 1:48 pm by chris78cpr ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=697752) ***
2 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=697752"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***132 *** AmericanAAdvantage (forumdisplay.php?f=445"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair (AY)Business Class (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=657169)
anabolism started Feb 7, 07 *** May 26, 07 10:58 am by NoWindowSeat ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=657169) ***
10 ("misc.php?do=whoposted&t=657169) ***862 *** oneworld (forumdisplay.php?f=411"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair Z class -what is it? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=693215)
wanaflyforless started May 15, 07 *** May 20, 07 4:57 pm by LJie ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=693215) ***
3 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=693215"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***289 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair MD11Business Seats (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=683826)
semajoz1 started Apr 18, 07 *** May 20, 07 4:52 pm by LJie ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=683826) ***
7 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=683826"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***656 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Any new Finnair Jexperiences? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694026)
tinkybelle started May 17, 07 *** May 18, 07 7:26 pm by NoWindowSeat ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=694026) ***
4 ("misc.php?do=whoposted&t=694026) ***312 *** oneworld (forumdisplay.php?f=411"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


HEL-MAN-HEL inFinnair Y and C (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=691011)
Thalassa started May 8, 07 *** May 14, 07 7:47 pm by number_6 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=691011) ***
5 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=691011"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***317 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


OT: Finnair Q1'07results are out - +6MEUR (-10MEUR) (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=689632)
Q400 started May 4, 07 *** May 12, 07 1:30 am by SuperFlyBoy ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=689632) ***
31 ("misc.php?do=whoposted&t=689632) ***1,001 *** SASEuroBonus (forumdisplay.php?f=499"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair PClass? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690226)
Oneworldboy started May 6, 07 *** May 8, 07 1:26 pm by ricktoronto ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=690226) ***
7 ("misc.php?do=whoposted&t=690226) ***370 *** AmericanAAdvantage (forumdisplay.php?f=445"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Calling Finnairexperts: Seating charts and seat selection? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690706)
aktchi started May 8, 07 *** May 8, 07 1:51 am by obscure2k ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=690706) ***
7 (misc.php?do=whoposted&t=690706"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single) ***346 *** Other EuropeanFrequent Flyer Programs (forumdisplay.php?f=469"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Your Finnair tips,advice, warnings... (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=684316)
AA-flyer-90 started Apr 19, 07 *** May 7, 07 3:10 pm by LH747FTL ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=684316) ***
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Mildly OT: FinnairA321 business exit row seats (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=686354)
frankvb started Apr 25, 07 *** Apr 26, 07 12:20 pm by Smirnoff ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=686354) ***
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Consolidation inScandinavian LCC - Norwegian to acquire FlyNordic from Finnair (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=685946)
Point_Chaser started Apr 24, 07 *** Apr 25, 07 2:14 pm by Nonstop ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=685946) ***
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Has Finnair givenop-ups to an AA EXP? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=684295)
AA-flyer-90 started Apr 19, 07 *** Apr 20, 07 4:06 am by skye1 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=684295) ***
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Flying Blue pointswith Finnair? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=677546)
arcetrax started Mar 31, 07 *** Apr 1, 07 2:16 pm by frankvb ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=677546) ***
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Does EXP card giveme access to the Finnair Lounge at ARN? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=677012)
whirledtraveler started Mar 30, 07 *** Apr 1, 07 4:59 am by tom911 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=677012) ***
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Finnair buys moreWB Airbuses - retires MD-11's earlier (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668773)
tsastor started Mar 8, 07 *** Mar 16, 07 2:56 pm by JuPe ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=668773) ***
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Finnair Plus: Highmileage requirements for elite levels! (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=670059)
Guy Betsy started Mar 12, 07 *** Mar 13, 07 12:13 pm by tsastor ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=670059) ***
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Finnair: shorthaulBusiness class seats? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583403)
nordic started Jul 26, 06 *** Mar 12, 07 11:44 am by JuPe ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=583403) ***
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Finnair LaunchesFlights To Kuala Lumpur (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544651)
harri started Apr 5, 06 *** Mar 12, 07 9:44 am by OH-LGG ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=544651) ***
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Finnair to stopbaggage interlining with competitors (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=665961)
jarinzfin started Mar 1, 07 *** Mar 1, 07 4:55 pm by nordic ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=665961) ***
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Transfer TimeFinnair to American Eagle at JFK? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664888)
GB started Feb 26, 07 *** Feb 27, 07 1:36 am by flymeAAway ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=664888) ***
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New Lie Flatbusiness class at Finnair (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662088)
ly787 started Feb 19, 07 *** Feb 25, 07 2:03 pm by NoWindowSeat ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=662088) ***
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1-FL Groupproposes its CEO for Finnair board (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664024)
Rejuvenated started Feb 24, 07 *** Feb 24, 07 4:16 am by Rejuvenated ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=664024) ***
0 ("misc.php?do=whoposted&t=664024) ***67 *** Newsstand (forumdisplay.php?f=178"color: blue *** text-decoration: underline *** text-underline: single)


Finnair ZClass (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625027)
platboy started Nov 15, 06 *** Feb 13, 07 6:13 am by skye1 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=625027) ***
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Finnair todiscontinue flying to Singapore as of 15MAY07? (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=653555)
Norway_Asia started Jan 29, 07 *** Jan 29, 07 12:10 pm by harri ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=653555) ***
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Finnair to reduceseat pitch on Airbus aircraft (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=649986)
ORD Finn started Jan 20, 07 *** Jan 29, 07 3:53 am by ecuatorianaDC10 ("member.php?find=lastposter&t=649986) ***
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Finnair BonusMiles for OLCI and More (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651215)
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I am a Finnair Plus member and will definetly post ^

Count me in, AY Silver and generally quite interested about all things related to (air) travel!

-o

Although a rather new member, would still really be interested to read (and post) on AY topics through a dedicated forum. As mentioned above, currently a lot of AY topics are hidden behind SK & BA and thus can be hard to find.

- I am a Finnair Plus member (Basic)
- I would post on topics where have something additional to say

Yes to both questions. Will definitely take an active part in the discussions.

Already fourteen members in favour. Additionally, Helsinki Flyer, Jupe, Smirnoff and FlyingFinn have promised to post, see this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705586). That's eighteen altogether.

As it happens there are good AY fares from Australia/NZ which attracts interest of some FTers who are based in this part of the world. While AY still has intra-asia tag legs, these are good ways to earn status quickly in some programs.

Further, AY (and HEL) is seen as a viable alternative for OW FTers who dislike travelling through LHR. For a small airline, there is thus a reasonable amount of discussion on various OW airline forums, as well as on the OW alliance forum. Having an AY forum would, I think, help centralise the information to make it easier to find, and generate further discussion than the currently fragmented approach.

Having an AY forum would, I think, help centralise the information to make it easier to find, and generate further discussion than the currently fragmented approach.

Kiwi Flyer, that is my reason for favoring having forums for national flag carriers. Even somebody who is flying DL or CO into TLV is going to get more information about the airport by asking on the El Al Forum than he would elsewhere.

Key, however, to this is being assured that there will be a cadre of regular posters on that forum who will be available to answer his questions. That is why I would like to see at least 25 FTers who say they will form that cadre.

I'm not a member of the Finnair program, but I live in Finland and fly AY a few times a year (crediting to AA). I would definitely participate in such a forum.

As mentioned above, AY attracts a good deal of commentary over on the BA board, much of which I feel is very well considered and valuable to those who regularly fly or are considering flying this airline. It is a shame to see information of this calibre scattered across three boards. I would certainly support a proposal to bring this knowledge together in a single forum.

To add, as AY is a member of oneworld, its catchment spans far broader than Northern Europe.

As much as I appreciate Dovster's reasoning for criteria for a new forum, I don't understand how it would hurt to try a Finnair Plus forum. Of course I would like to see 25 members in favour. Even though it seems that there are not many megaposters among us, a new forum could create more posts. If we can tolerate a forum for Sun Air AIRewards (last post in August 2001) in the Discontinued Programs/Partners area, surely a Finnair PLUS forum should be given a chance.

Nordic, as I have posted repeatedly, there are no cut and dried criteria for establishing a new forum. Each TalkBoard member is elected to use his own judgment in determining what he will support and what he will not.

I don't want to characterize any particular TalkBoard member, but as might be expected some have very strict requirements as to what they will accept; others are quite loose about it and still others are in the middle. I consider myself to be among those who are loose, especially when it comes to national flag carriers.

For all of that, there is nobody on TalkBoard who will vote for a forum which he doesn't feel has any chance of success. All that winds up doing is burying posts without any real opportunity to be answered.

I didn't ask for the 25 members for the Alitalia Forum because I felt that the flag carrier of a country that size, which gets so much tourism, would be guaranteed the cadre needed to make the forum feasible. Early results certainly indicate that there are enough FTers posting on it to make the forum a success.

Israel, which like Finland is a tiny country, was a much more "iffy" proposition. Yes, it gets quite a bit of tourism but the occasional visitor is not enough to keep the El Al forum active. Fortunately, it turned out that it did have this cadre (and I would say that there are roughly 25 members who post there regularly).

If we get the 25 members for Finnair Plus, I will feel that the forum has a chance to be successful and will recommend it to TalkBoard. I won't even begin to guess how other TB members will feel about it, although I would say that Pteropous's and Thalassa's posts may well gather additional support for this proposal.

Already fourteen members in favour. Additionally, Helsinki Flyer, Jupe, Smirnoff and FlyingFinn have promised to post, see this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705586). That's eighteen altogether.

Just to make it explicit and at one place, I'm replying here as well.

a. I am a member of AY Plus, which is my most active FFP program nowadays (too lazy to update the profile :))
b. I definitely would be a regular poster on such a forum if it existed.

Sorry I missed this thread completely.

AY Plus member and will be posting, but I also welcome all other FTers if we get our own Forum (especially all OW partners).

1. Yes (well haven't posted anything there in years,AA for first 125k points and the Asiamiles for the rest of the year)
2. YES

flying hkg-hel this sunday with AY also, it's been almost a year since the last time I flew their MD11's

It would be great to have a forum for Finnair Plus. I give my vote for that. And I'm member of Finnair Plus and I will post to.

I'm a OW/QF member with strong interest in AY and would definitely post.

btw, KiwiFlyer, AY does have good offers from Oz, but I have never seen any fares from NZ. As we fly AKL-HEL fairly often, I'd love to know where you've found them!

1) AA Plat, but living in Finland and fly Finnair on a regular basis
2) Will post

hi,

i am a finnair plus basic member - since AY started regular scheduled flights from my home airport NUE AY a few weeks ago finnair plus got more interesting for me.
therefore i would support the finnair plus forum creation and contribute posts in the forum.

cheers
CHris

AY Plus Gold and I will post.

I'm an avid OW passenger. :) Have not yet flown Finnair but would certainly like to add AY to my list.

My question is this:

Where is everyone who is an AY member currently posting?

I'm an avid OW passenger. :) Have not yet flown Finnair but would certainly like to add AY to my list.

My question is this:

Where is everyone who is an AY member currently posting?

It depends on what we are posting on ;)

I fly mostly Finnair and BA -- therefore I follow and post on the BA and Other European Airlines forum. There are occasional AY thread on the SAS forum so I follow that one, as well. The Scandinavia forum is another place that I follow, as is the Travel Security forum. Other regional fora as per where I plan to travel or which areas I am interested on or know about.

An AY only forum would be great as then I could simply subscribe to that forum and easily see at least the bulk of AY related stuff.;)

Cheers,
T.

Thank you.

Let me revise my question slightly...

Where are AY proponents currently posting their AY-related info/questions/etc?

Where are AY proponents currently posting their AY-related info/questions/etc?

From what I can see they are spread out between Other European, SASEurobonus, OneWorld, BA, and a few other airline forums.

(This is the same mess we had with Alitalia. Those threads were on Other European, SkyTeam, Delta, and FlyingBlue.)

Q400,

I will support your request on TalkBoard if 25 FTers post in this thread saying both of the following:

a. They are members of Finnair Plus.
b. They will be regular posters on a new forum.
.

a) Yes

b)Yes

I'm a member of AY, although collecting miles on my AAdvantage card. I will post in the AY forum if I have anything constructive to say/add, and I probably will since I know quite a few people working on AY and travel with them about once a month.

As I said more than once in this thread I am only one out of nine TalkBoard members and I can in no way speak for any of the others, nor can I predict how they will view this matter, but I just opened a discussion on the private TalkBoard Forum with the following post:

I won't deny that I was skeptical when it was first requested, but proponents of a Finnair Plus Forum have convinced me that it is not only workable, but needed.

For a national flag carrier to be workable, IMHO, it needs a cadre of about 25 posters who will not only trade information among themselves but also be available to supply answers to other FTers who will only visit that forum from time to time. A very good example of this is how the El Al Forum has worked.

For it to be necessary, it should be shown that at present, people really don't know where to post threads about that carrier.

In posts # 20 and 22 of the TalkBoard Topics thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705540) asking for the forum, two of the members have not only shown that Finnair has been the subject of a good number of threads but that they are located all over the place -- in the Other European, SASEurobonus, OneWorld, BA, and a few other airline forums.

They have convinced me of the validity of their request and I feel it is one which TalkBoard should discuss and approve.

How do the rest of you feel about this?

Good news! I would like already thank you all helping to get Finnair Plus on FT. Let's hope the other TalkBoard members will concur Dovster. ^

OT:
Today Finnair announced another expansion: they'll start to fly Seoul next year with their new A340-300s!

I have to wonder if Finland, with a population of only 5.2 million people (even less than Israel!), has that cadre on FlyerTalk. I am especially concerned because of the Finns that I have known, all studied Swedish as their second language, not English. New Zealand has a population of 4 million (plus 300,000 or more of us living in Australia) and Air NZ has its own forum. Air NZ & Finnair are some what similar being part of a major alliance, at the end of track as far as air routes go, as well as being the flag carrier and major airline of the country.

Good news! I would like already thank you all helping to get Finnair Plus on FT. Let's hope the other TalkBoard members will concur Dovster. ^

Although the formation of a Finnair PLUS forum is still in the discussion phase and has not reached the voting stage, I am generally in favor of it.

Thanks to the many folks who have weighed in thus far and we look forward to hearing any other opinions or concerns, pro or con.

Cholula is absolutely correct. In fact, if you re-read what I posted you will see that I have not yet made a motion to establish this forum. If I see from the preliminary discussions on the private TB forum that it has no chance at all of being passed, I will not try to force TB to vote on it just for the sake of having a vote.

Obviously, I hope that there will be enough support from other TB members to make it worthwhile to bring this to a vote. Even then, however, passage would not be guaranteed -- merely possible.

Right now, before a motion has been made, is actually the best time for everyone to give their opinions both pro and con. I think that all TB members read TalkBoard Topics and this would allow them to see how you feel before any of us has cast his/her ballot. Remember that voting is open for two weeks (unless all 9 members vote earlier) but that members can vote as soon as the poll appears if they so desire. Once a TB member has voted, he is not allowed to change his position no matter how effective any new arguments may be.

Right now, 5 of the first 7 threads in "Other European Frequent Flyer Programs" are related to Finnair or HEL (all started either yesterday or today). Just another point about the kind of traffic an AY forum could generate :) .

Count me in as a regular poster on the future Finnair-forum. I´d be happy to see such a place. The SAS forum has become a sort of regular hangout for many of us Finns as well. It does help that there´s an OT-lounge thread as many times I don´t have that much stricty on-topic stuff to write. :p

Oh, and to those two questions: yes and yes.

p.s. Right now at the SK-ARN lounge waiting for a few more hours to get back to HEL.

I have only lurked (I usually only look for information I really need, since the Other European Frequent Flyer Programs forum is such a mess of uninteresting things), but having a dedicated forum would probably change that.

So,

a) Yes
b) Yes

I have made the following motion on the TalkBoard private forum:

TalkBoard approves the creation of a forum for Finnair and the discussion of its frequent flyer program.

As I did this only a few minutes ago, it has not yet been seconded, and I can not make any predictions as to whether it will get a second or, if it does, whether it will be passed.

I have made the following motion on the TalkBoard private forum:

TalkBoard approves the creation of a forum for Finnair and the discussion of its frequent flyer program.

As I did this only a few minutes ago, it has not yet been seconded, and I can not make any predictions as to whether it will get a second or, if it does, whether it will be passed.

I seconded it several hours ago and it's now being voted upon by the TalkBoard.

Not a member of Finnair + as I take the miles to BA, am resident in Finland for approx 3 months per year and would appreciate a dedicated AY forum as we do fly regularily with them.

Santa

a) yes, but post all flights to BAEC
b) yes

I do fly Finnair a lot (return trip to Helsinki on average every 3 weeks) but would never gain Emerald with Finnair Plus, even if I posted all my oneworld flights there. Therefore the miles and TPs go to BAEC.

yes
yes

Shouldn't a new thread be opened for this now that voting is in progress?

In any case, I think that the usefulness of a Finnair forum has been clearly demonstrated in this thread. Not only are there a substantial amount of existing threads related to AY disseminated in various forums and therefore difficult to locate; it is also apparent that many FTers (especially newer ones) are not currently posting or contributing AY-related threads, but would do so in a Finnair forum.

i am a Finnair Plus member, and a Finn, and would like to see a Finnair forum. i travel to Finland at least once a year to see my family and this forum would be a valuable resource for me.

I would love to see the Finnair Plus forum created as well ^