Star Alliance - *A Lounges in the USA that aren't UA or US

If I understand correctly, a US or UA *G should be able to use lounges of other star alliance partners in the US, even if they're flying domestically. I tried coming up with a list of lounges that might be used in this way:

ORD - LX, SK
EWR - LH, SK
JFK - LH, LX
SFO - SQ
LAX - AC, NZ, NH
HNL - NZ
BOS - LH
ATL - LH

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch. But more importantly, I'd like to know which of these lounges are useful in practice. For example, the LH and LX lounges at JFK aren't useful because they're in terminals on the other side of the airport -- you'd need to leave and reenter security, and it's not clear you'd even be allowed to do that. A more interesting example might be at SFO where there's a bus between terminals, but I don't know if they'd let you ride over to terminal G just to use the lounge. I'm also of the understanding the SQ lounge in SFO is only open a relatively limited set of hours.

So, for folks in the know:
(1) Which ones am I missing?
(2) How accessible are these?
(3) When are they open?

Also please correct any errors I've made.

Thanks!

The LH lounge at JFK is in T1 landside, no security required.

Most *A lounges that are not UA/US are only open during/around the time the carrier's flight departs. You are usually allowed in with a *A BP of the same day and a *G card if you are allowed in the same concourse. TSA usually makes no exceptions.

At LAX only AC, NZ (both in T2) and interim lounges (first & business in TBIT). Once built there will be *A first and business lounges in TBIT.

If I understand correctly, a US or UA *G should be able to use lounges of other star alliance partners in the US, even if they're flying domestically.

Not quite:
Also, if you present your Gold Preferred membership card and same-day International tickets, you can access over 600 Star Alliance lounges (including US Airways Clubs) around the world. Travel within North America and the Caribbean is excluded.
link is here (http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/dividendmiles/preferred/gold.aspx).
And from United:
Star Alliance lounges
When traveling internationally on any Star Alliance member airline, present your same-day international ticket and your Premier Executive card, and you may relax in any Star Alliance lounge.
Link is here (http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1165,00.html)

Still, it is nice to know of the various *Gold lounge options in the US.

Sorry, I was working based on:
United Airlines' Premier Executive and Premier Executive 1K customer and US Airways' Chairman Preferred and Gold Preferred customers have access to U.S. domestic United Red Carpet Club and US Airways Club locations only when they present a ticket or boarding pass for a same-day international flight.
Found on *A.com Lounges Page (http://www.staralliance.com/en/travellers/benefits/lounges.html).

Does anyone know if you can get in in practice?

SEA: SK (South Satelite - open late afternoons from around 1500)
EWR: SK & LH (terminal B, around gate 60 I believe - open afteroons and evenings )
ORD: SK (terminal 5 - close to gate 15 - open evenings)

Actually, this is a useful thread--but only for those of us who are travelling Domestic USA flights AND have a non-UA/US *G card (e.g., my Gold BD card allows me access to UA lounges when flying MSP-ORD).
Thanks--it's a great idea!
Other than the LH JFK lounge, are there any others that are Landside?
Thanks!

Actually, this is a useful thread--but only for those of us who are travelling Domestic USA flights AND have a non-UA/US *G card

:confused: If you have non UA/US *G then you can access any *A lounge (including UA/US) in your terminal for same day departure.

:confused: If you have non UA/US *G then you can access any *A lounge (including UA/US) in your terminal for same day departure.

Only if you are flying international the same day:

Star Alliance lounges
When traveling on qualifying international itineraries on any Star Alliance member, present your same-day international ticket and your 1K card, and you may relax in any Star Alliance lounge.

Look for the "Star Alliance Gold" sign outside eligible lounges.

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1169,00.html

Star Alliance™ Status
As a Star Alliance Gold member, you're eligible for benefits and unique recognition across all 18 participating Star Alliance airlines and US Airways.

Also, if you present your Gold Preferred membership card and same-day International tickets, you can access over 600 Star Alliance lounges (including US Airways Clubs) around the world. Travel within North America and the Caribbean is excluded.

http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/dividendmiles/preferred/gold.aspx

Since it is pretty easy to become UA/US*G their 'clubs' would get pretty crowded and they could not really sell the 300$ RCC/club memberships :)

Only if you are flying international the same day

The same day international requirement is only for UA*G or US*G.

For other *G, when flying *A in USA they can access any *G lounge, regardless of whether it is operated by UA, US or other airline, and regardless of whether flights are domestic or international.

I'm still unclear why the OP and others are trying to make a distinction between UA/US operated lounges and other *G lounges in US.

I'm still unclear why the OP and others are trying to make a distinction between UA/US operated lounges and other *G lounges in US.

Because as UA/US*Gs they also want to visit lounges while travelling domestic and non UA/US lounges would be interesting?

The SFO SQ lounge by bus drops out, as you have to show your international boarding pass before being allowed to board for the ride over to the intl. terminal.

According to the LH website there appears to be some sort of LH lounge at DFW. It's named as a "contract lounge" but it also says it's "used exclusively by LH" and includes a "Miles & More printer" and "German magazines and newspapers". Sounds pretty officially Lufthansa to me. Can anyone confirm?

http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/uk/info_and_services/at_the_airport/lounges?l=en&nodeid=1679562

Airport Dallas/Fort Worth - International
Location Terminal B opposite gate B36
Name Airport Lounge (used exclusively by LH)
Opening hours 12.00-16.00

Lounge features:
Restrooms Showers Relaxing room Meeting room Office units Copy machine Fax machine Miles & More printer Credit card phone Free local phone calls PC with internet access Dataports for laptops W-LAN facilities TV Local magazines and newspapers International magazines and newspapers German magazines and newspapers

DTW - LH lounge in the same terminal as Northwest (sorry...I've only been there once and don't rememeber details)

The major problem with accessing most non-USA carrier STARGold lounges when flying domestically within the USA is that these are not located in the same terminals as the domestic carrier you are flying. This means TSA is unlikely to permit you past security to get into the lounges. Or as others have noted, these lounges are only open a few hours prior to international departures. At LAX, you won't be able to access the AC or NZ lounges unless you are flying from T2, not to mention it is a long haul over to the UA or US terminals/gates. At ORD, these are in the International T5 terminal, pretty far, and a monorail ride from where US, AC or UA have their gates. Same with LH's lounge at JFK even if it is airside, UA and US have terminals on the other side of the airport. Same at BOS while the trek is a bit less at EWR.

Basically, if you have a spare 35K BIS miles, put them on ACs Aeroplan and use your AC*G card to get into all RCC and US Clubs domestically.

I'm 1P on UA and am using my AC Elite card to access the RCC when I need to rebook, reroute etc etc, even when it says 1P on the BP. Never been questioned, not even a second look.

If you fly alot within Canada on AC metal, it can be especially worth it as the AC status will get you better treatment IMHO.

just my 2c

gbsfo

Looking for clarification here...

"TSA is unlikely to permit you past security"....

Do you mean "will not"? Is this "policy"?

I'm looking to access the NZ lounge at LAX ( using *Gold status) ... so I can spend time with a buddy flying NZ that night....then head back to the RCC to wait for my (later) UA transpac.......

Can do? Or not......?

Without a boarding pass you'll need one of the T2 airlines to provide a gate pass (unless you've just flown in to T2 on a domestic or Canadian flight thus can remain airside without clearing immigration).

Thanks KF!!!! :)

We'll be flying in from PHX on UA....

I'll go to the NZ check in with my friend (he'll have to call in for his boarding pass if normal experience applies!) and ask at that point.... no biggie if it's a "No can do"... but I'd rather spend a few hours:

a. With my friend.. and

(No surprise here I'm sure...)

b. In the NZ lounge! :D

DTW:

There is a beautiful but very small LH SEN-Lounge in DTW. There is a LH Business-Lounge too, but I’m always in the SEN-Lounge

I tried to access the US airways lounge land-side at LAS recently with my BD *G flying on Ted, and was refused entry.... it's clearly sign posted as a *G lounge

I tried to access the US airways lounge land-side at LAS recently with my BD *G flying on Ted, and was refused entry.... it's clearly sign posted as a *G lounge

Uh-oh.....I'm beginning to get worried now! I'm BD*G and flying LAS-SAN next month. Booked through US but flight operated by Mesa (which I gather is :(). I was hoping to get family in this lounge. What reason was given for refusal of entry?

I'm still unclear why the OP and others are trying to make a distinction between UA/US operated lounges and other *G lounges in US.
Because lounges operated by US airlines within *A generally suck. Most other *A carriers offer free food, free booze and are generally much nicer. The CO lounges are probably the nicest of the US carriers IMHO.