Air New Zealand Air Points - Use two different FF numbers (one for status, one for miles accrual)?
Vunder31
May 15, 07, 11:02 pm
I'm SK *G and want to use that status so that I can reserve seats in the "premier" section in Economy.
SK only gives 25% miles for the fare classes I'm booking (a mix of W, T, H and V), so I want to put the miles on UA instead.
Can I use one FF account for status and another account for mileage accrual?
How do I set it up? When booking online I can enter separate FF numbers for the UA and NZ segments, but how can I get both the SK and UA FF numbers "active" (one for status, one for miles) for every segment? Call NZ and ask them to fix it once I've made the booking?
Another question: A couple of my flights are booked in H class. The NZ reservation website says that I will not get any miles for those flights, but both the SK and UA FF websites say that I will get 100% miles for NZ flights in H class. So will I get 100% miles or no miles when I try to put it on the UA FF account?
nz_crew
May 15, 07, 11:07 pm
Yes, you can do so. Enter your UA number when booking, and then call NZ's 24 hour number (I think in the USA it's 800-262-1234) and ask to have your SK number entered as an 'FQTR' entry. (The UA number is an 'FQTV' entry).
Once the FQTR number is in the booking, you'll be able to get seats assigned in the reserved sections.
FQTR is a little used and little documented entry, so you may need to ask for a supervisor.
Kiwi Flyer
May 15, 07, 11:17 pm
Yup NZ are pretty good at having the 2 fields (although, nzcrew, I thought they were FQTS and FQTV).
H is reasonably high economy booking class (eg crediting to Airpoints it is full economy (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/airnz_earn_accrual.htm)), not sure why you'd think it isn't mileage earning.
Vunder31
May 15, 07, 11:26 pm
H is reasonably high economy booking class (eg crediting to Airpoints it is full economy (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/airnz_earn_accrual.htm)), not sure why you'd think it isn't mileage earning.
Yeah, it's full eceonomy on both SK and UA too, so that's why it's a little strange that I wouldn't get any miles.
The international multicity website says "No Frequent Flyer Accrual" by the flight choice on the "Flight Availability" page and when I go one step further and check the fare rules for that flight, it says "01 BK CODE - H -"
Maybe a different NZ booking engine would give a different result regarding the booking codes, but doubt that the regular booking engine can handle my RDU-CLT-LAX-AKL--CHC-SYD--MEL-AKL-RAR-NAN-LAX-PHX-RDU route :)
And thanks to both of you for the quick answers :)
Kiwi Flyer
May 15, 07, 11:32 pm
It isn't a flight operated by a non-mileage earning airline by any chance? What is the route?
nz_crew
May 15, 07, 11:33 pm
My apologies, KiwiFlyer is correct - FQTR is redemption ticket, FQTS is status indicator.
Don't ask them to enter an FQTR field or they'll get REALLY confused! ;)
Vunder31
May 15, 07, 11:36 pm
It isn't a flight operated by a non-mileage earning airline by any chance? What is the route?
RAR-NAN (NZ 47)
(Clicking on the "No FF Accrual" link by the flight number gives the following popup: "No Frequent Flyer accruals
This fare does not accrue Airpoints Dollars™ or any other frequent flyer program miles/points.")
It's not a big deal (only 1500 miles), just thought it was a little strange.
sjefenole
May 15, 07, 11:39 pm
Hmm, would this work on Northwest as well?
I have status on KL that upgrades me to First with availability, but need to unorphan my SU account with one segment.
Is it industry wide standard or only NZ?
Yeah, it's full eceonomy on both SK and UA too, so that's why it's a little strange that I wouldn't get any miles.
The international multicity website says "No Frequent Flyer Accrual" by the flight choice on the "Flight Availability" page and when I go one step further and check the fare rules for that flight, it says "01 BK CODE - H -"I have seen this happen when part of the itinerary will be booked in a non-mileage earning class.
e.g. you book wlg-akl-syd, with wlg-akl in G class, it shows the whole itinerary as non-mileage earning even though the akl-syd is in, say H.... that may be what's happening here? The booking engines are kinda weird in that regard.
Kiwi Flyer
May 16, 07, 12:02 am
yeah I think it is a glitch. RAR-NAN is NZ operated flight, not codeshare.