Travel Technology - For all you Verizon Wireless customers, some nice new CDMA phones coming soon

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/27/lg-vx8700-shine-for-verizon-in-the-wild/

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/28/blackberry-cyclone-around-the-corner-for-verizon/

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/27/kyocera-introduces-5-new-handsets-at-ctia/

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/27/lg-intros-vx-8700-lx-570-cdma-clamshells/

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=2134

I spend time in rural areas and my Verizon phone with analog too gets a signal where the tricked out digital only phones cannot. Do any of these recently announced phones include analog capability?

Verizon and "nice phone" don't go together. The GSM world is miles ahead of what is out on CDMA. Shame really...

I thought verizon was still tdma.

Verizon and "nice phone" don't go together.
One of my friends works at Sony Ericsson here at RTP and while camping he pulled out a very beautiful and feature rich phone which got no signal. I pulled out my ugly LG and placed a call, admittedly while buring up the battery using analog.

I think mine was the "nice phone."

One of my friends works at Sony Ericsson here at RTP and while camping he pulled out a very beautiful and feature rich phone which got no signal. I pulled out my ugly LG and placed a call, admittedly while buring up the battery using analog.

I think mine was the "nice phone."

Could simply have been a triband phone on a GSM850 area.

Sure, Verizon does have the edge on signal in the middle of nowhere and the suburbs of hicksville, but for the nice phones you really don't want to be stuck with them.

The new Motorola q q9 is also due out this quarter.

I am a verizon wireless user and i really hate the new LG phones. I personally have the white chocolate phone and it is worthless. THanks for all of the new suggestions guys. :D

I'm a Verizon user because they have the best coverage in the U.S. and CDMA does lots better inside buildings than GSM. However, I hate their phones.

I want:

- a small, light phone with good talk and standby time, that
- supports a Bluetooth headset
- and lets me the Expressnet service (not EVDO) and
- the ability to receive a text message more than 100 characters in length.

I don't want:

- A camera phone (I have a high-quality DSLR for that)
- A video phone (I have a high-quality camcorder for that)
- Stereo Bluetooth and mp3 capability (I have an iPod and QC2s for that)
- Games of any kind (I can amuse myself, thank you)
- Video reception (I can't imagine who uses that or why)

There simply is no such thing. Verizon is hell-bent on selling a bunch of unwanted and useless "value added" services that I will never buy (and my bill is already high enough) and all their phones reflect that.

CDMA does NOT do better on building penetration than GSM. 800mhz signals penetrate buildings better than 1900mhz signals. Dubai uses 900mhz GSM and it will penetrate buildings just as good as Verizon.

CDMA does NOT do better on building penetration than GSM. 800mhz signals penetrate buildings better than 1900mhz signals. Dubai uses 900mhz GSM and it will penetrate buildings just as good as Verizon.GSM in the US is, primarily, on the 1900 MHz band (though 850 was introduced in 2001). CDMA in the US is 900 MHz. The lower the frequency, the better the penetration of solid (and liquid) structures -- it's one of the reasons that submarines use ULF (ultra-low frequency). Perhaps I should have qualified my statement to indicate that, in the US CDMA will do better at penetration than GSM.

I thought verizon was still tdma.

No, AT&T, Cingular, t-mobile were all TDMA. Verizon was never TDMA.

-David

GSM in the US is, primarily, on the 1900 MHz band (though 850 was introduced in 2001). CDMA in the US is 900 MHz. The lower the frequency, the better the penetration of solid (and liquid) structures -- it's one of the reasons that submarines use ULF (ultra-low frequency). Perhaps I should have qualified my statement to indicate that, in the US CDMA will do better at penetration than GSM.

Verizon in most of the US has a significant 800 mHz presence (*NOT* 900 mHz) as Verizon was aggregated froma number of old legacy analog "cellular" carriers (PacBell Mobile in CA, US West New Vector in WA/OR etc). Thus, most of Verizon's current CDMA network is on 800. VZW has purchased a number of 1900 (PCS) licenses, and are building a number of sites in areas where they (a) need more capacity or (b) where they didn't have an 800 mHz license (example would be southern Oregon, such as Medford).

Sprint is mostly on 1900 and is only CDMA.

Mode has essentially nothing to do with building penetration, it's mostly freq. One could make a case that the processing gain of soft handoff would allow CDMA to make calls at a slightly more marginal signal level that when using GSM, though...

RFTraveler... :)

My company uses VZW and it amazes me at how many people have problems with their crappy equipment, even on the more expensive models. I havent had a lot of problems with my Motorola, but still detest the fact that I cant use it when out of the country. Thus the reason I carry a TMobile Dash as well.

Just counting down the days till my Verizon phones will collect dust and that my new phone(s) will keep me in the look around the world!

I use Verizon because of coverage it works best where I am most of the time. What I do not like is that they are CDMA nad not GSM. But I thought I had beat the system while looking at the Verizon Web site under World Phones. I could get a Samsung World Phone from Verizon that worked with both CDMA and GSM Sweet. The phone did not even have a camera which I really liked also. Verizon provided the phone and a SIM card things are looking up. I went to the manual on the phone and it did not have BT (new phone no BT what are they thinking). Since I need BT to communicate with the Hands Free system in my car I had to return the phone. Almost beat the system, but I am able to get a Veriaon Sim card (corporate contract) to use in my unlocked phone when I nned. Yes, I could have gotten one of the world PDA phone but did not want one. I use a phone make calls and receive calls, I do not use a phone for any of the following:
EMAIL
Test Messaging
PDA
Calendar
Camera
Music Player
Video Device
SO I guess no one wants to make a phone for me since I represent lost revenue potential.

I use a phone make calls and receive calls, I do not use a phone for any of the following:
EMAIL
Text Messaging
PDA
Calendar
Camera
Music Player
Video Device
SO I guess no one wants to make a phone for me since I represent lost revenue potential.I'm with you on this, and it's my biggest gripe against Verizon (along with extortionate data charges and high rates).