Las Vegas - The Consolidated "Best Hotel/Best Hotel Room in Vegas" thread

OK, I know there are loads of threads on specific hotels around the place, but msn tells me G-BOAC's offline, so I'll chance my arm.

I'm going with a mate to Vegas for 3 nights in August. He is a mate, tho not in the biblical sense (otherwise Mrs Schofs would have something to say!).

We want to stay in a fab (and ideally famous) hotel in Vegas. Since we're going to spend most of the time gambling, we don't mind sharing a twin room (although a suite would be great).

Any recommendations for an eff-off good well known hotel?

Wynn (http://www.wynnlasvegas.com/index.jsp) is the best there is right now... Bellagio is also worth a punt, and it's well placed on the strip.

What pyeinthesky said. The Wynn, hands down.

I hope you're feeling wealthy though...

I like the Bellagio - high floor and lake view. Good views, the rooms are good (better than the Venetian - which are large, but looking tired - but not as good as the Wynn). Also its fairly central on the strip.

we don't mind sharing a twin room

Speaks volumes about the institution of marriage :) :D

Hi,

I like the Mandalay Bay ( with the sand and the wave pool and lazy river). It also has Moorea , a separate pool are ( for European style bathing ( ie topless apparently)

The room are large and can be good value for money ( the buffet is very good).

Ususally for a few more $ you can stay at THE Hotel ( all rooms are suites) and is very nicely furnished.

Also check out the Las Vegas forum here on FT.

Regards

TBS

Ususally for a few more $ you can stay at THE Hotel

Quite a few more... It's nice but way up North on the strip...

Top of the list would the Skylofts. OK so it is at the MGM but it is in a class of its own. You get a stretched Mayback to/from the airport for free and priority restaurant/show bookings as if you were a high roller. There are 1/2/3 bedroom suites. Good mid-week discounts in the hot summer months (covers August). You get immediate access to the Skyloft concierge once your reservation is in the system. Got prime house seats to see Tom Jones (just slightly beyond the underwear target zone)in August 2 years ago at the MGM Grand. This Easter, they got us front row middle seats to see The Producers at a non-MGM Mirage hotel even. The only difference between this and a high roller service is that you pay for the tickets (but at a regular box office price not premium agency rates). Given the size of the casino (I always get lost in here), there is a good mix of low stake and high stake tables.

There are also fancy but slight more dated 2 bed-room suites at the MGM Grand which are less pricey.

Mirage do a 2 bed-room penthouse suites (free stretched limo to/from the airport included) and so do Bellagios. Mirage is more old world Las Vegas charm. I just love Bellagios and all its restaurants. Table stakes are on the high side in the evening at Bellagios. $10/$25 minimum in the evenings

The Tower at the Wynn have access to a private pool area but the minimum table stakes are high. $15 is as low as it gets in the evening.

If the info on Bidding for Travel is accurate, the Venetian and Bellagio are only 5 star establishments rated by Priceline. If you are staying mid-week and there are no massive conventions in town, its possible to get a winning bid for a suite at a fraction of the hotel's headline rates.

Other recommendations are: The West Wing at MGM Grand and The Hotel at Mandalay Bay.

Moving slightly OT - did you happen to see Louis Theroux's Las Vegas feature earlier in the week. I was a little reticent about watching it, worrying that I might drop my guard or more truthfully, lose my fear in advance of my visit to LAS next month (and consequently losing my shirt and everything else ;)). Anyway, it proved to be a most fascinating insight into the life of the big gamers when they're in town.

The Venetian. :)

Wynn (http://www.wynnlasvegas.com/index.jsp) is the best there is right now... Despite the impressive sweeping bronze reflective exterior of the Wynn, inside the suites look as if they were fitted out by DFS. Tell me please that its more stylish than those images on the hotel website suggest.

And if you are looking for some side entertainment - as previously posted (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=646987) by krug last month:


There is a swingers club in Vegas, apparently :eek:

Club Facts:
The Green Door is the premiere social spot in Las Vegas. The Club was founded in 1998 and has since earned the title of America's Most Unique Social and Health Spa. We provide a clean and safe environment for adults to play.

FT DO anyone? :D

Hmm - maybe you should wait for Mrs Schoffs

I have visited Las Vegas many many many times over the last five years and I would thoroughly recommend Bellagio. Great hotel and location. The fact that I had Patricia Ford as my cocktail waitress just added to the experience :D :D :D

However, as you are going during August (hot, hot, hot!) then perhaps the decent pool at Mandalay Bay (or the upmarket hotel-within-a-hotel there named 'The Hotel') could tempt you a little further south.

For honest (and spot-on) opinions of Las Vegas hotels I would recommend a little time spent on www.cheapovegas.com

I know you'll have a good time.

PS. If you should end up in Olympic Garden, give Gina my regards! ;)

If you've got Amex Plat/Centurion, the FHR for Bellagio can't be beat. I think it was about $140 Bush Pesos (about 10p at current ROE :D). Ok about £70 (which, heck I don't think you can stay in a Travelodge here for that).

Includes room upgrade (generally to a Fountain View), continental brekkie (or approxmatley $15 towards whatever on the menu), and a gift (seems currently to be passes to the fab spa/gym).

Boddingtons here likes VALUE FOR MONEY and the Stratosphere at £29.99 a night is a steal! :D

End of the day, I went to Vegas to gamble, not to stay in my hotel room! A casino is a casino. The roulette tables are all the same whichever hotel you stay at. The less I spent on hotels meant the more I could spend at the tables. The comps are very generous at the Strat. I stayed 4 nights and got comped $380 dollars to spend - far more than what our hotel bill was! Admittedly I was at the roulette table for about 9 hours one afternoon, before I was told to go to bed as I was too drunk :eek:.

I stayed at the MGM too, and the pool area there is heaps good ^

Vegas is a bit like Bangkok. A bed's a bed; a f**ks a f**k :eek:

Seeing as you're insisting on THE BEST, then I'll second whoever has said Wynn's. They all suites!

Quite a few more... It's nice but way up North on the strip...

Actually, it's south.

Wynn is OK, Bellagio is OK, I will agree with Flyclub though and say Venetian. Better restaurant selection, right next door to Wynn if you fancy going there, better casino than either Wynn or Bellagio.

Mandalay Bay, especially THEhotel, also excellent, with easy staggering from RED SQUARE possible.

I find Bellagio and Wynn too far up their own backsides, but hey ho.

Caesars is also nice if you get a new room, but it's confusing as hell and the fact that they signed Celine Dion to a long term contract (even though it's now ending) is very disturbing.

Yeah but Stratosphere is sort of a crap location. Not on the Strip but not Downtown either.

Yeah but Stratosphere is sort of a crap location. Not on the Strip but not Downtown either.

A bed's a bed; a casino's a casino; a f**k's a f**k! ;)

Plus you get a great view of the strip from the tower - which you'll get comp tickets to as hotel guests!

Admittedly, its a hell of a walk to the other end and we were well untruely bolloxed in the summer heat

Admittedly, its a hell of a walk to the other end and we were well untruely bolloxed in the summer heat

It does have one serious plus: it is only a short walk to OG

I vote for the Bellagio, if only because it's ideally placed on the strip. It's famous enough, too. Wynn and Mandalay Bay are probably better but they are not as centrally located on the strip.

Skylofts at MGM Grand do look good, if you can get a good rate. Just checked a couple of websites and the rates are a bit eye-watering.

We want to stay in a fab (and ideally famous) hotel in Vegas. Since we're going to spend most of the time gambling, we don't mind sharing a twin room (although a suite would be great).

Any recommendations for an eff-off good well known hotel?

A curve ball for you.... If it's gambling you want, and a little of the true Las Vegas - how about the Golden Nugget downtown? The best of the downtown hotels, a suite for a good rate and you'll get better odds downtown gambling than on the mighty strip.

If you'd rather have the posh pad, at least take the time to go downtown to gamble!

Have a look at cheapovegas, as already posted. Probably the best, easy comparison of the hotels in town.

Wynn (http://www.wynnlasvegas.com/index.jsp) is the best there is right now.

Yup. ^

it sits atop Mandalay Bay and you are permitted to use all of Mandalay Bay's facilities. You just don't have to put up w/5 million other people. The pool is delightful. Plenty of chaise lounges for all. The evian sprays and service are wonderful. Get a straight up strip view room.
It's a haven of quiet in the midst of craziness. In other words, it's perfect!

I would go for Bellagio - especially in the summer - due to the location. If you want to Casino hop to look around you can walk to all of the centre strip casinos where as Wynn is too far up the strip and you'd have to rely on transport to get you to most places.

OK, I know there are loads of threads on specific hotels around the place, but msn tells me G-BOAC's offline, so I'll chance my arm.

I'm always watching, schofs...

Aladdin was nowt special. I would say Wynn or Bellagio. Oh, and hide your credit and switch cards and only take as much cash as you want to lose. Trust me :)

Wherever you stay, do the Canyon helicopter ride!

... in advance of my visit to LAS next month ...When next month are you there? I will be there from 3 March to 8 March at a conference in Caesars Palace.

When next month are you there? I will be there from 3 March to 8 March at a conference in Caesars Palace.Unfortunately, I won't be arriving in until Tuesday 20th. It would have been great to catch up with you there.

I have a booking at The Hotel at Mandalay Bay on my final night but still searching for deal for the first two nights stay. My midweek visit seems to have coincided with conference season.

I would say Wynn or Bellagio.

Wherever you stay, do the Canyon helicopter ride!

Do also check out the Las Vegas Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=463) for more generic advice.

I would recommend www.wynnlasvegas.com - great pool, superb breakfast buffet, great view whichever side you get, and handy for the Fashion Show Mall opposite. The best bit is the private pool area for resident of the suites only.

Use code AMEX for year round discounts, I recommend an Executive Suite (http://las-vegas-hotels.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviewImages-g45963-d503598-b1513255S-r5799446-Wynn_Las_Vegas-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html) for two, as it has two bathrooms, and you can easily get a very comfy rollway bed for your partner in crime.

This link (http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/nevada/las-vegas/wynn-hotel-suite.php)gives some nice 360 views of the hotel

Despite the impressive sweeping bronze reflective exterior of the Wynn, inside the suites look as if they were fitted out by DFS. Tell me please that its more stylish than those images on the hotel website suggest.

When the Wynn opened, an article (I think LA Times) called the tower 1970's Houston Oil Architecture.

If it's design you are after in LV, then focus on dining, there are some stunning restaurants in the hotels along the strip. The bathouse spa at The Hotel is worth a visit as well.

Despite the impressive sweeping bronze reflective exterior of the Wynn, inside the suites look as if they were fitted out by DFS. Tell me please that its more stylish than those images on the hotel website suggest.

Def more stylish, some great bathrooms of genuinely high quality, and a superb pool area.

Even Singapore_Air would be "impressed"!

I'm always watching, schofs...

Aladdin was nowt special. I would say Wynn or Bellagio. Oh, and hide your credit and switch cards and only take as much cash as you want to lose. Trust me :)

Wherever you stay, do the Canyon helicopter ride!

Aladdin's pretty miserable, but it is SPG so that means I normally stay there to feed my addiction to SPG Plat!

When next month are you there? I will be there from 3 March to 8 March at a conference in Caesars Palace.

You can't go too wrong with the Augustus Tower (http://media.harrahs.com/Photo_Gallery.aspx?regionid=1&hotelid=14&catid=600) at CP; though, YMMV in some of the other towers.

You can't go too wrong with the Augustus Tower (http://media.harrahs.com/Photo_Gallery.aspx?regionid=1&hotelid=14&catid=600) at CP; though, YMMV in some of the other towers.

Yeah I must say I like the look of their spa suites, but for me Wynn is where its at.

Yeah I must say I like the look of their spa suites, but for me Wynn is where its at.

aceman, you are such a wynn whore. :D you really must get over it; didn't anyone tell you CP is where it is at (though, I personally prefer Paris).

We'd thought of Wynn, but when I saw it rated #18 on Tripadviser, I was somewhat concerned.

We'd thought of Wynn, but when I saw it rated #18 on Tripadviser, I was somewhat concerned.

I think rating Vegas hotels is quite difficult, especially since you will often have (and this isn't a justification, just a reality) different experiences for casino and non-casino guests (at the same property).

That being said :
Trip Advisor #4 is the Holiday Inn Express and #6 is The Orleans;
this is followed by #7 Bellagio. No agrument by me that the Four Seasons is #3 and Signature at MGM is #1; but --- Holiday Inn Express and Orleans are not even on the same planet as Wynn (or Bellagio) --- so, I think that you really have to look quite a bit deeper than Trip Advisor rankings, IMHO.

The Orleans is a great hotel for what you pay, also, that rating system isn't for every 4 star 200plus a night hotel on there, there are many different economic classes that visit vegas and each one needs to get rated somehow

JW marriott has the best standard rooms.

if you must be on the strip, the four seasons is the best; followed by the bellagio.

The Orleans is a great hotel for what you pay, also, that rating system isn't for every 4 star 200plus a night hotel on there, there are many different economic classes that visit vegas and each one needs to get rated somehow

I agree, that on one level; The Orleans is an excellent property.

But, referring to the concern about the #18 rating for Wynn; I don't think you can decide on a future stay based on the implication that there might be issues with Wynn based on the numeric ranking (of #18) from tripadvisor.

Sites such as Vegas Tripping (http://www.vegastripping.com/) or cheapo vegas (http://www.cheapovegas.com/index.php) provide much better metrics than tripadvisor, with respect to Vegas hotels.

aceman, you are such a wynn whore. :D

This is because I find that the Wynn cocktail waitresses are the only ones worthy or me expending the considerable charm of my english accent on.

Oh and by the way, have you found anywhere else that does Peking Duck like the Wynn? Just another tick in the box :p

though, I personally prefer Paris

Well you're just a cheap date dude!

I love Tower Suites at the Wynn. Nicest rooms, nice casino, great food.
Skylofts is amazing but it's unfortunately at the MGM Grand. Bellagio is up there too...

Tower Suites at the Wynn is also the only Mobil 5-Star hotel in Las Vegas.

AAA Five-Diamond hotels in 2007 include the entire Wynn property; Bellagio; Four Seasons; Ritz-Carlton Lake Las Vegas (not on the Strip); and Skylofts at MGM Grand.

These two rating systems are much more reliable than rankings at TripAdvisor, which is more a popularity rating than anything else.

No Contest it has to be the WYNN!!! Gwen

aceman, you are such a wynn whore. :D you really must get over it; didn't anyone tell you CP is where it is at (though, I personally prefer Paris).

What do you like specifically about Paris? We usually stay in Augustus at Caesars, but we are trying Paris for the first time in 2 weeks. They already assigned me a host (based on Caesar's activity) that set us up a pretty nice package including Producers tix. My wife wanted to try something different this time.

What do you like specifically about Paris? We usually stay in Augustus at Caesars, but we are trying Paris for the first time in 2 weeks. They already assigned me a host (based on Caesar's activity) that set us up a pretty nice package including Producers tix. My wife wanted to try something different this time.

mostly just size; I really prefer smaller properties -- and the dining options at Paris are very good (Mon Ami Gabi, above average buffet etc. etc.). Also has a nice very uncrowded but large Diamond Lounge with a bar. Excellent Mandara Spa (and fitness); which is also easy to get to from your room. Newly renovated rooms are fine, nothing spectacular, but very adequate. If you can score a nice suite (such as an Imperial, IIRC, you should be very happy) Good dice and 8/5 BP (even at the 25 cent level). Easy access to Bally's since they are connected, so you have an additional casino to play at -- and Paris/Bally's are treated as one casino property with regard to your play (i.e. doesn't count as a separate trip lowering your ADT if you decide to play at both casinos in the same day). Hosts I have dealt with at Paris are very responsive. I really like the fact that I can pop back to my room very quickly, and the property layout is very easy to navigate.

Thanks for the quick reply. My wife and I are looking forward to the more manageable size. I also like the atmosphere the one time we went over there for a few hours. Will do a trip report after we return.

Hi Chaps,

I'm Schofs' mystery travel partner, looks like the Wynn is the best choice! ^

Thanks!

Hi Chaps,

I'm Schofs' mystery travel partner, looks like the Wynn is the best choice! ^

Thanks!

Then again, screw the gambling, get a Skyloft (http://www.skyloftsmgmgrand.com/) at MGM and go to the clubs, then get a table in the clubs, and invite every girl you meet to the party back in your room. You'll have a LOT more fun then dribbling your cash away at the tables. A LOT.

Thanks everyone!

Through Amex I've booked a Parlour Suite at the Wynn, with a free upgrade to the Salon Suite if available on checkin, free lunch, breakfast, and late checkout.

We're flying into LAX, and hiring an Audi S4 convertible to drive to Vegas.

Seriously looking forward to this!!! Thanks again for the advice ^ ^

Then again, screw the gambling, get a Skyloft (http://www.skyloftsmgmgrand.com/) at MGM and go to the clubs, then get a table in the clubs, and invite every girl you meet to the party back in your room. You'll have a LOT more fun then dribbling your cash away at the tables. A LOT.

aceman; I "assume" this is the plan for March :D Please have the champers chilled before I arrive --- a nice Vintage Rose would be fine. :D And send the Maybach to pick me up; since I'll just be slumming it at Paris.

So how is the Signature at the MGM? I've read it is great from Tripadvisor, but I've always thought of the MGM as being sort of blaoted and tired and I would think you are still having to be part of the greater MGM experience, eh? We've always stayed at thehotel@Mandalay Bay and just love it there, but it is really far off at the end and this time I'm sending my parents and I can't picture them wanting to walk that far. And the Signature has a sweet sale going on at the time they want to go, sounds tempting.

Another hotel that receiving glowing reviews on TripAdvisor and has attracted my attention is the Platinum Hotel (http://www.theplatinumhotel.com/), Lounge and Spa. Located one block off the Strip on East Flamingo it would appear to be well positioned for the action. The hotel itself is a non-gaming environment; for the going rate, the condo style suites are very generous (from 900 sq ft)

Just a thought..when you are asleep all the hotels look the same no.@:-)

Just a thought..when you are asleep all the hotels look the same no.@:-)

And some hotels you can't get to sleep in!

Some hotels you would be scared to get in their beds with god knows what crawling around in there with you.

Just a thought..when you are asleep all the hotels look the same no.@:-)

Actually no, the better the hotel the better dreams I have :p.

I haven't stayed at the Platinum but I know exactly where it is. The Platinum is typical of what is going on in Vegas - a condo and hotel in one. As the taxi driver said to me when I was in Vegas last month, look at the cranes that are dotting the Vegas skyline; almost all of them are building facilities like The Platinum. IIRC, he said starting prices at the Platinum are $400k.

Michael:D

Another hotel that receiving glowing reviews on TripAdvisor and has attracted my attention is the Platinum Hotel (http://www.theplatinumhotel.com/), Lounge and Spa. Located one block off the Strip on East Flamingo it would appear to be well positioned for the action. The hotel itself is a non-gaming environment; for the going rate, the condo style suites are very generous (from 900 sq ft)

I've been looking at the Platinum it seems pretty good, along with the Meridian Resort, Westin Casaurina, Southpoint Hotel and Spa and the Holiday Inn Express (South) for August. (30th x 7 days, 2 of us) looking for a large-ish room, with NICE beds.
:eek: :o and the prices at the Wyn etc are:mad: .

All five of us are off to Orlando on the 14th March 07, Virgin PE to our house in Clermont for 26 days. So the Vegas trip is adult only.

Any advice appreciated

Kaz

Boddingtons here likes VALUE FOR MONEY and the Stratosphere at £29.99 a night is a steal! :D

End of the day, I went to Vegas to gamble, not to stay in my hotel room! A casino is a casino. The roulette tables are all the same whichever hotel you stay at. The less I spent on hotels meant the more I could spend at the tables. The comps are very generous at the Strat. I stayed 4 nights and got comped $380 dollars to spend - far more than what our hotel bill was! Admittedly I was at the roulette table for about 9 hours one afternoon, before I was told to go to bed as I was too drunk :eek:.

I stayed at the MGM too, and the pool area there is heaps good ^

Vegas is a bit like Bangkok. A bed's a bed; a f**ks a f**k :eek:

Seeing as you're insisting on THE BEST, then I'll second whoever has said Wynn's. They all suites!


hi,

i have never been to vegas but i will be. i am a hell of a blackjack player , i normally take 30usd and in 15minutes i run to another table with 500usd.
(almost never lost in my life, of course lost if the last player was a dumb player on the table but i am looking for tables where only 1-2 players are playing usually)

anyway, if i could get a credit for free which i could use to play i would play with 300usd instead of the 30usd i normally invest ...

so , is it common in vegas that you get money for free ?? or some credit?

please let me know,

dp

hi,

i have never been to vegas but i will be. i am a hell of a blackjack player , i normally take 30usd and in 15minutes i run to another table with 500usd.
(almost never lost in my life, of course lost if the last player was a dumb player on the table but i am looking for tables where only 1-2 players are playing usually)

anyway, if i could get a credit for free which i could use to play i would play with 300usd instead of the 30usd i normally invest ...

so , is it common in vegas that you get money for free ?? or some credit?

please let me know,


Are you serious ? "almost never lost" --- but, when you do lose the "last player was a dumb player";

my friend, I get very nervous around people who play BJ and tell my they "almost never lose" --- even if you count and play perfectly, you will lose sometimes (and sometimes lose big). Regarding the other players, in the overall picture, they really don't change the outcome. Sometimes the other "dumb" player might take a card that will produce a win for you instead of a loss.

Anyway, if your entire stake is 30usd, and you plan on playing on the strip for less than $25/hand (like $10/hand) you will probably be at a 6/5 BJ table; and that alone --- might just guarantee a loss, but of course, YMMV.

Yes, credit is available at any casino, just fill out the appropriate forms. Yes, you can also get comps (free stuff) at any casino, just play long enough -- and the comps will be calculated on your average bet over the period of play.

hi, i am a hell of a blackjack player...
(almost never lost in my life....

Searching for my grain of salt.....or maybe the whole shaker! ;)

Searching for my grain of salt.....or maybe the whole shaker! ;)

but, kaukau; I know you are a hell of a dice player. :D

Are you serious ? "almost never lost" --- but, when you do lose the "last player was a dumb player";

my friend, I get very nervous around people who play BJ and tell my they "almost never lose" --- even if you count and play perfectly, you will lose sometimes (and sometimes lose big). Regarding the other players, in the overall picture, they really don't change the outcome. Sometimes the other "dumb" player might take a card that will produce a win for you instead of a loss.

Anyway, if your entire stake is 30usd, and you plan on playing on the strip for less than $25/hand (like $10/hand) you will probably be at a 6/5 BJ table; and that alone --- might just guarantee a loss, but of course, YMMV.

Yes, credit is available at any casino, just fill out the appropriate forms. Yes, you can also get comps (free stuff) at any casino, just play long enough -- and the comps will be calculated on your average bet over the period of play.

well, i need only 30USD to make it 300usd in a short time, i have never lost my 30USD if i kept losing that day i might just stop when i have 30usd in chips left.

with the 300 usd i normally i am able to triple it, so i can pay my hotel rooms when i am in a casino city.

about the others players at the table, often there a lot players , so i prefer playing at a table with a max of 3 players , and the guys who are playing alone normally know the standard rules like dont hit on a dealer 6 which some folks clearly dont know.

for me its just a game , doing it quick max. 30mins of playing. normally i play 10 minutes which is enough to earn a dinner at a nice place.

about the other players who might hit a card and make the whole table lose, if i know that the dealer might win, i will hit and bust so the other players on the table can win.

anyway, i read a bit about vegas and it seems that playing one hand with 1000usd might do the trick so i will take 15k this time to play.

cheers dp

but, kaukau; I know you are a hell of a dice player. :D

but you are a baccarat king , so you are the real champ :p

anyway its one month to go, and i was able to get a limo comp from the mandalay :) already as we have 6 suites booked and it was booked through centurion.

cheers dp

I travel to Vegas monthly for work and usually stay at the Renaisance Marriott next to the Conv. Center on Paradise. Its non-gaming, which I prefer. They have great rooms w/ flat screens, a good steakhouse & lounge.

On the strip, I like Mandalay Bay. Great water park, a good assortment of resturaunts and good lounge acts. The Four Seasons is the top 4 floors of Mandalay, but with a seperate entrance. If you get the standard 4 Seasons room, I don't find it much better that Mandalay's rooms.

I've stayed at the Venetian and the rooms were great, but at that time ( not sure now) you had to self park in back and haul your suitcases through the casino and down to check in. Definitely valet if you go.

Saw Spamalot at the Wynn last month. Didn't stay there, but had drinks & dinner. Seemed low key and an older crowd. Nice, but not a lot of action.

we arestaying at the hotel @ Mandalay.

really excited :)

hope it lives up to our expectations.

cheers dp

anyway its one month to go, and i was able to get a limo comp from the mandalay :) already as we have 6 suites booked and it was booked through centurion.

6 Suites booked through Centurion = $$$$$

Limo Comp from Mandalay = $40

I think that Mandalay "might" want to give back a bit more than a limo comp for 6 Suites ;) if not, I might try negotiating a bit with some other properties, 6 suites (paid) is a decent amount of coin, in my book.

6 Suites booked through Centurion = $$$$$
Limo Comp from Mandalay = $40
I think that Mandalay "might" want to give back a bit more than a limo comp for 6 Suites ;) if not, I might try negotiating a bit with some other properties, 6 suites (paid) is a decent amount of coin, in my book.

I think you are missing the posters point. Why anyone who can 10X their money in a short period of time is looking for a comp bewilders me (refer to quote from derpelikan: "well, i need only 30USD to make it 300usd in a short time......."). If I could (consistently) do this I would be looking to buy my own LV strip casino or two. I think me smells a troll.

MisterNice

We've got a Parlour Suite at the Wynn booked for 3 nights in August. Booked through Amex Centurion (although I'm not a member, I am Amex Plat).

Have never been before - is it worth asking the persone that booked at Centurion if they can ask about Comps?

I'm not planning to be a high roller, but we will be playing a fair bit of blackjack :)

We've got a Parlour Suite at the Wynn booked for 3 nights in August. Booked through Amex Centurion (although I'm not a member, I am Amex Plat).

Have never been before - is it worth asking the persone that booked at Centurion if they can ask about Comps?

I'm not planning to be a high roller, but we will be playing a fair bit of blackjack :)

Join the players club @ Wynn upon arrival and always present your card when playing at the tables (I think minimum bet for rating at Wynn is $25/hand) --- at the end of the trip, you can then check w/ a host and see what they will knock off your room rate (or COMP it 100%) and what other items will be comp'ed. Very important, make sure you charge everything to the room; since they can't comp off items that are NOT on the hotel folio.

Hi gang, need some advice here.

Going to vegas w/ a friend who doesn't gamble a ton (as opposed to me) and both him and I perfer a more "relaxing" place to stay.. resort time if you will.

having a casino is important since, well, I want to be able to get down from the elevator, play $50 and then walk and get dinner :)

So I ask those in the know... what would be a good place for a couple of mid 20s people to stay at, heart of the action on the strip and such?

My friends usually stay at the Wynn which is starting to get in the borderline-expensive area since my friend doesn't gamble much and I do.... I could, in theory, get a poker rate w/ my friends who play hours on end, but I'm more tempted to go for a place that's not only relaxing, but just a more fun enviornment.

Looking for a good value, I guess.... please advise.. thanks!

So I ask those in the know... what would be a good place for a couple of mid 20s people to stay at, heart of the action on the strip and such?
......

Looking for a good value, I guess.... please advise.. thanks!

I'd say you want to stay near the center of the strip. The top 3 I'd recommend are:
Paris
Mirage
Flamingo (a bit cheaper)

Bellagio is also an option if your budget permits.

Join the players club @ Wynn upon arrival and always present your card when playing at the tables (I think minimum bet for rating at Wynn is $25/hand) --- at the end of the trip, you can then check w/ a host and see what they will knock off your room rate (or COMP it 100%) and what other items will be comp'ed. Very important, make sure you charge everything to the room; since they can't comp off items that are NOT on the hotel folio.

This may be a silly question, but what is the easiest way to “check with a host”? If you don’t have a dedicated casino host should you/can you call the front desk and just say you want to talk to a casino host?

Last time I was at the Wynn I just walked up to the casino host desk, and they took off all the meals on my folio (which was probably only about $175). The host seemed a bit annoyed that I was bothering him. Normally that desk seems pretty busy, and this was early in the morning, so it was fairly calm. I assume there is another office somewhere in the hotel that a group of hosts is hanging out taking care of these types of requests.

Hi gang, need some advice here.

Going to vegas w/ a friend who doesn't gamble a ton (as opposed to me) and both him and I perfer a more "relaxing" place to stay.. resort time if you will.

having a casino is important since, well, I want to be able to get down from the elevator, play $50 and then walk and get dinner :)

So I ask those in the know... what would be a good place for a couple of mid 20s people to stay at, heart of the action on the strip and such?

My friends usually stay at the Wynn which is starting to get in the borderline-expensive area since my friend doesn't gamble much and I do.... I could, in theory, get a poker rate w/ my friends who play hours on end, but I'm more tempted to go for a place that's not only relaxing, but just a more fun enviornment.

Looking for a good value, I guess.... please advise.. thanks!

If you're going on weekend, consider Monte Carlo or Mirage, right in middle of the strip.

If on weekday, Paris or Caesars, or as another poster said, Bellagio if the there are good rates; Venetian too.

Best place IMO, but not in the heart of the action, is Mandalay Bay, good for the gambler and other things to do for the non-gambler such as the pool and spa. Plenty of restaurants too.

This may be a silly question, but what is the easiest way to “check with a host”? If you don’t have a dedicated casino host should you/can you call the front desk and just say you want to talk to a casino host?

Last time I was at the Wynn I just walked up to the casino host desk, and they took off all the meals on my folio (which was probably only about $175). The host seemed a bit annoyed that I was bothering him. Normally that desk seems pretty busy, and this was early in the morning, so it was fairly calm. I assume there is another office somewhere in the hotel that a group of hosts is hanging out taking care of these types of requests.

You can call from your room and ask to be connected to a host. At the Wynn, you can go to the red card desk and tell them you're checking out. They'll look at your slot points and call a host if your play warrants. That's how I originally got set up with my host there.

6 Suites booked through Centurion = $$$$$

Limo Comp from Mandalay = $40

I think that Mandalay "might" want to give back a bit more than a limo comp for 6 Suites ;) if not, I might try negotiating a bit with some other properties, 6 suites (paid) is a decent amount of coin, in my book.

what else can i ask for to get comped?

we are spending 690- 960 usd per suite.

could only imagine the limo and free blackjack chips, but hotel told me that they cant give me bj chips without having played a single bet....

i dont care about restaurants as we have reservations at tao and other restaurants and trynn or what was the clubs name at the wynn.

if i could free money to gamble that woudl be great.

p.s. anybody in the hotel this week? if any FTer are in vegas pm me. we will be for 4 nights at the mandalay

dp

I think you are missing the posters point. Why anyone who can 10X their money in a short period of time is looking for a comp bewilders me (refer to quote from derpelikan: "well, i need only 30USD to make it 300usd in a short time......."). If I could (consistently) do this I would be looking to buy my own LV strip casino or two. I think me smells a troll.

MisterNice

hi mr nice.

well if i play 30USD, and make 300usd i get my meal free , maybe my entrance and some drinks paid to the club.
so i think i am a good bj player but for me its only to do some bets , but its not important to me.

i think that the moment you starts playing with high hands, your adrenalin starts pumping and you sometimes might make the wrong decision ...
most people get excited with a high hand, and this is the problem when gambling, analysing the situation and not changing your betting habits is in my eyes the key to win against the casino (which is difficult enough for a non-pro)

if i lose 30USD i would say, well 30usd lost who cares. as i am not there to gamble but for shopping , party.

so initally i was hoping to get free bj chips but got told that i have to play an amount of time to get an comp etc.

with free chips it would have been free money without losing anything.
if i have to invest my own 30usd or 100usd there is always a risk that this particular day the dealer gets 5bjs in a row.

but as i have read a lot since my intial posts, i have prepared a lot money to play this time in vegas.

because its vegas , baby :p

dp

Just got back from an excellent time in Vegas. If anyone's interested I've written up a trip report on Schofs' Travels (http://www.schofs.com) for anyone planning a similar trip.

Cheers,
Schofs

I go to Vegas at least once a year. I usually go with a couple long time friends. I want a nice suite in a nice hotel with a good scene (mid-late 20s). Ever since theHOTEL@Mandalay opened, I've stayed there every time.

I'm amazed that so many people are recommending the Wynn. I've had friends stay at the Wynn then meet us at our suite at theHOTEL. Their response was this place makes the Wynn look like a sh*t hole. I have to agree. The rooms in the Wynn are not high end by any means.

I feel that the scene at the Wynn is an older adult crowd. There isn't much going on for people in their 20s and 30s.

I don't like the Wynn.

...a good scene (mid-late 20s).

Hard Rock ^. Check out the pool ;).

I go to Vegas at least once a year. I usually go with a couple long time friends. I want a nice suite in a nice hotel with a good scene (mid-late 20s). Ever since theHOTEL@Mandalay opened, I've stayed there every time.

I'm amazed that so many people are recommending the Wynn. I've had friends stay at the Wynn then meet us at our suite at theHOTEL. Their response was this place makes the Wynn look like a sh*t hole. I have to agree. The rooms in the Wynn are not high end by any means.

I feel that the scene at the Wynn is an older adult crowd. There isn't much going on for people in their 20s and 30s.

I don't like the Wynn.

My fiance and I are 24...and we have no qualms at all with the Wynn. Yes the gambling scene is a bit older...but stay in the Tower Suites and you'll be surprised how many well-to-do people you'll meet on the weekends between 25-35. Also, you can't beat Tryst on Thursday and Saturday nights IMO. It's as good a club as you'll find anywhere right now.

If you're into that overcrowded, kinda confused crowd and feel of theHotel...then by all means enjoy yourselves. While the lobby level and bar areas are very well designed and minimize the noise from elsewhere...you can have the shiny silver, neo-retro rooms all to yourself. I'll stick with the soft, contemporary designs and elegant feel of the Wynn (and especially the Tower Suites) any day. Oh...and the quiet and cleanliness of the north strip is something I'll never trade for the dirt and noise of south strip! :p

(mid-late 20s)....

I'm amazed that so many people are recommending the Wynn. I've had friends stay at the Wynn then meet us at our suite at theHOTEL. Their response was this place makes the Wynn look like a sh*t hole. I have to agree. The rooms in the Wynn are not high end by any means.

...

I don't like the Wynn.

Quick, notify Mobile and AAA to take away Wynn's 5* ratings, they can't have any low end sh*tholes with those ratings!

Wow, you guys sure like the Wynn. I'm heading to Vegas in two weeks. I'll take another look at it while I'm there.

I don't think you can really go wrong with the Wynn. I stayed there a couple of weeks after they opened, and they had a few kinks to work out like a problem with my key, but overall it's the place to be right now. The first night I was there Barry Manilow walked by me and the misses (not a biggie for me as i'm 26), and Barry Greenstein and Daniel Negranu were playing a winner take all $250k heads up match in the poker room. It's the "it" place right now.

It kinda sucks because I've wanted to stay at the Bellagio all this time, but now I keep reading that it's kind of a let down. Shoulda stayed there first.

Quick, notify Mobile and AAA to take away Wynn's 5* ratings, they can't have any low end sh*tholes with those ratings!

Mobil is the ratings company. Mobile is in Alabama.

Wynn's 5-star Mobil rating is only for the Tower Suites, IIRC.

Wynn's regular rooms are still 4-star-plus and better in size, technology, window size (floor to ceiling) and beds than Bellagio's.

Mobil is the ratings company. Mobile is in Alabama.

Wynn's 5-star Mobil rating is only for the Tower Suites, IIRC.

Wynn's regular rooms are still 4-star-plus and better in size, technology, window size (floor to ceiling) and beds than Bellagio's.

Thanks for DenverBrain for correcting my spelling; I knew the grammar police would be along shortly.

I’m assuming the op was referring to the suites since he was making a comparison to the TheHotel, which are all suites. Even referring to the Resort Rooms as sh*tholes, that are not high-end, is a bit inaccurate IMHO.

It is one thing to say the crowd is not your scene, but a calling the whole place a sh*thole??? :rolleyes:

Thanks for DenverBrain for correcting my spelling; I knew the grammar police would be along shortly.No problem, 878! :D :D :D

It is one thing to say the crowd is not your scene, but a calling the whole place a sh*thole??? :rolleyes:

I didn't call the whole place a sh*thole. I just said that when my friends came over from the Wynn, they said theHOTEL made the Wynn look like one. That was their reaction. They were not in a suite. They were in a room that looked like a $89 room at Reno.

I didn't call the whole place a sh*thole. I just said that when my friends came over from the Wynn, they said theHOTEL made the Wynn look like one. That was their reaction. They were not in a suite. They were in a room that looked like a $89 room at Reno.

Having spent time in Reno, that is funny.

There is an alternative explanation for your friend's puzzling comments. They may have been shocked at the minimalist/utilitarian surroundings at theHotel, while they were basking in rich, luxurious appointments at Wynn, and tried to cover their embarrassment for you with a clumsy white lie. ^

One thing overlooked by many people is that while the Tower Suites are 5* rooms...it's not because of the room istelf but more for the amenities (check-in, private pools, concierge, line passes, I could keep going on) afforded to guests of the Tower Suites. The actual standard Tower Suites room is virtually the same room as the Resort Room. The only noticeable differences are additional amenities in the bathroom (wooden scrub brushes, silver handled razors and toothbrushes). The wood is a darker stain as well as the Tower Suites uses a "choclate/cream" rich color scheme where as the resort rooms focus more on bright, soft colors. I've stayed in both rooms...and the functionality of both rooms is virtually the same. The biggest difference is whether you want to be closer to Palazzo or to Encore (aka north or south side of the building).

Having spent time in Reno, that is funny.

There is an alternative explanation for your friend's puzzling comments. They may have been shocked at the minimalist/utilitarian surroundings at theHotel, while they were basking in rich, luxurious appointments at Wynn, and tried to cover their embarrassment for you with a clumsy white lie. ^

They were not in the Suites. They were talking about the lobby of THEhotel, and the suite we were in. I went over to their room at the Wynn. It was a basic room. There was nothing special about it. I have a hard time believing that is 4*.

I haven't been to the Wynn since. I'll take a peek when I head back to Vegas in two weeks. :)

They were not in the Suites. They were talking about the lobby of THEhotel, and the suite we were in. I went over to their room at the Wynn. It was a basic room. There was nothing special about it. I have a hard time believing that is 4*.

I haven't been to the Wynn since. I'll take a peek when I head back to Vegas in two weeks. :)

I’ve stayed at theHotel once and Wynn several times, and I’m at a loss about what you and your buddies are thinking. Were you all really drunk?

I’ll be looking forward to your review/comparison after your upcoming trip as to why the Wynn rooms are equivalent to $89 Reno ****hole rooms.

I could be wrong. I haven't put my foot in the Wynn in two years. I'll give you guys an update on the 22nd. :)

WYNN Hotel

Ok guys, I'm back from my Vegas trip. Wow, this one was amazing. In regards to the hotels. . .

I stayed at THEhotel through Amex FHR. I had a V-suite on the 35th floor facing the strip. There isn't really much of a difference between the normal suites and the V other than the plasma in the bedroom and the iPod dock.
The service at THEhotel was EXCELLENT. I've had a hard on for THEhotel since I stayed at it a couple months after its opening. THEhotel is by no means dated, but it isn't brand new anymore. It's like a car with 15k miles on it -- still in excellent condition, but the new car smell and excitement is gone. The room layout is excellent and a great place to preparty with a few friends. The decor is nice.

Now as a reminder, I had a very bad taste in my mouth about The Wynn. I went over there a few trips ago to visit some friends, and decided to stay the hell away. I decided to go check it out this trip.

I was impressed with the guests in the Wynn. Most people were dressed very well and there was an overall more mature and high class feel to the place. I managed to go up to one of the standard rooms. NOT IMPRESSED. There is absolutely nothing special about their non-suites. I would describe them as disappointing for the cost. The standard room in The Wynn was just a little less than a suite at THEhotel. Unfortunately I was unable to visit any suites in the 5-star tower. I would imagine that they would be nice.

Between the two, I'd take THEhotel over the non-suites at the Wynn in a heart beat. I would not want to stay in the standard rooms at the Wynn even if they were much cheaper. I might check out one of The Wynn's suites on the next visit, but I'm most likeley going to stay at The MGM Skylofts.

Thanks for the follow-up report.

You're still comparing a suite with an entry-level room, so I think there's a bit of apples vs. oranges going on. Of course, that would be trumped by your statement that you can get both for about the same price. Do you mind sharing what you paid for the V-suite?

Thanks for the follow-up report.

You're still comparing a suite with an entry-level room, so I think there's a bit of apples vs. oranges going on. Of course, that would be trumped by your statement that you can get both for about the same price. Do you mind sharing what you paid for the V-suite?

I know that my comparison is flawed. It should be no surprise that the V-suite is much better than a standard room at The Wynn, but they were both around the same price. The Friday/Saturday rate was $360 and included all of the FHR amenities (upgrade to V-suite, $60/day of breakfast/lunch credit, $100 spa credit, 4pm checkout).

The service at THEhotel was EXCELLENT.

Would you be able to expand more on THEhotel. What interactions did you have that made you feel the service was excellent? Any other amenities/facilities that stood out?

We've booked two out of our four nights in Vegas at the Wynn (basic resort room) at $139/night with $75 gaming credit and want to book another two nights somewhere else for some variety. We're thinking about a room at THEhotel using a $99/night offer that we recently received.

Both place are probably a bit overkill for us based on our level of play and our limited usage of most hotel's amenities/facilities but we thought we'd take advantage of some great rates in December.

.......but we thought we'd take advantage of some great rates in December.

^ ^ Attaboy! That's the ticket!!! ^ ^

Personally I feel that if you can find a good rate at the Wynn (and in the coming months that are some days with great rates), it's worth jumping on. While the rooms at the Wynn are nice (the large windows and overall design really do make it seem spacious), I find them a bit out-dated. Not out-dated in the design sense, but rather the electronic blinds, HDTV, TV in bathroom, etc. were all kind of unique when the property first opened, but many hotels are now offering similar amenities. Venetian for example offers all those things (I may be mistaken about the HDTV, but they do at least have two plasmas per room), and if you give up the electronic blinds, TheHotel is great for the cost.

You absolutely can compare a standard room at TheHotel with a standard room at Wynn, and I have to say TheHotel wins hands down. Don't get me wrong, I do like the Wynn, its elegance makes you feel like you're away from typical Vegas. But for a pretty self-sufficient traveler, I've never found the Wynn to offer anything service-wise that isn't offered at TheHotel. Then again, it's all based on your situation. I'm very excited to check out the SkyLofts at MGM one day, though. I think that'll put shame to Wynn, Bellagio, TheHotel, and Four Seasons, hands down.

I think people are splitting hairs...it's obviously a personal preference at the high end of the spectrum... I've stayed at theHotel...it was OK...rooms were nice, the sewage smell in the lobby wasn't so great, the Mandalay Bay casino is not so great... Stayed at Skylofts in a 2BR loft...room was nice, service was good, not great, MGM casino not great... Usually stay at Wynn, love the Tower Suites, like the overall combination of the food, gaming and accomodations...

Just be happy you're on vacation in Vegas and not home working !

Could you elaborate? Be curious to know what you liked about the amenities at Wynn, and what you didn't like about the service at Skylofts? I go to Vegas strictly for the room, don't gamble, and like the get away of having my own little retreat. So our tastes will obviously vary, but I'm frequently torn between what hotel would be my top pick, and like knowing other opinions.

Could you elaborate? Be curious to know what you liked about the amenities at Wynn, and what you didn't like about the service at Skylofts? I go to Vegas strictly for the room, don't gamble, and like the get away of having my own little retreat. So our tastes will obviously vary, but I'm frequently torn between what hotel would be my top pick, and like knowing other opinions.


I think various factors would be at play here. Since you don't gamble, let's look at the rooms. I will compare 1 BR skyloft with Parlour Suite at Wynn. Both rooms are nicely appointed. Skyloft has the Bang & Olufsen electronics which are nice. If you use Amex FHR program, the upgrade to the 2 BR loft is great value. You get free movies. Skyloft decor is fabulous but I did find lots of wear and tear on the last trip. The service is usually quite personalized but can be hit-and-miss (comparing trip to trip). The concierge caused us to miss a Cirque Show as they never brought the tickets over until 5 minutes before the show started. The Maybach transfer is a nice added touch.

Wynn - Tower Suites separate entry and check-in is a great feature as you don't have to go through the throngs of people. Although the decor is different from Skylofts, it is still quite luxurious and comfortable. In summer, the pool is right there and less crowded as there is a separate Tower Suites pool. We have gotten a cabana in the past which is divine ! Service may not be as personalized as Skylofts but also just as helpful. I think Skylofts overpromises and underdelivers.

Restaurants - MGM-I've eaten at the Mansion - unique, albeit expensive special occasion dining. Craftsteak, solid food. Michael Mina restaurants are also good. Wynn - love Wing Lei. Deli is good for lunch. Buffet and Terrace Point Cafe are higher quality than at MGM.

Location - MGM Grand is so big, it takes a while to exit. I don't really like much at the South end of the Strip. Center strip is good for walking around. Wynn - can walk across to Fashion Show Mall (I'm a big shopper, so might not be an advantage for everyone).

Spa - Wynn spa is far nicer than MGM spa. Bellagio spa is really tops in my book though.

So if you want to just relax in your room, Skylofts would be up there. I would definitely stay at Skylofts once if at all possible. Besides, Skylofts and Wynn, we've stayed at Aladdin, Paris, theHotel, Venetian and Bellagio. Wynn is really our Vegas home though.

We usually split our stays between Wynn and either one of Skylofts and Bellagio. Keep in mind that we're in our thirties and value relaxation and pampering over the Paris Hiltonesque party scene so that's why we do the things we do !

Thanks for that detailed report. If only more FTers were more inclined to explain their reasoning, rather than just saying "Property A sucks, property B is better hands down." Having never stayed at the Skylofts (but planning to before the year is out), I can't really comment first-hand, but the reports I've read and the list of what is actually offered seems to far out-weigh any other property. But as you said, if you they don't deliver on their promises, then it may go down a huge notch in my ratings.

I'm in my early 20s, so for me Vegas is about the shopping, dining, and relaxation. Gambling and entertainment are second to me. Having said that, I can see how having Fashion Show right across the street is an added benefit. And the dining accommodations at Wynn far surpass that of MGM, no question. Never been to any of the spas at Wynn, MGM, or Bellagio (been to the Spa Mandalay and the Bathhouse at TheHotel, which I loved!), but I imagine the spas in Wynn and Bellagio are probably lovely. Though, any FHR property that offers a $100 spa credit immediately gets a leg up in my book. Being a college student, I'm willing to go all out on the room, but spending a lot on that obviously dwindles the funds for everything else; the Wynn FHR credit of a free lunch for example would be useless, I could just as happily eat elsewhere for much cheaper, but having a $100 spa credit would be great there. Of course most of the members of this board are NOT "starving" college students (probably wouldn't be so starving if I spent my money on food rather than hotel rooms but hey, that's my problem), so their tastes will likely vary.

The one thing I will say is that the decor between Wynn, Bellagio, and Skylofts varies greatly. I find Wynn overly elegant, and I often compare it to the likes of three department stores; Barneys, Saks, and Neiman Marcus. To me, Barneys is new money (you get all the young and hip people going there), Saks is elegant (you can find a variety of things that are way too fancy, but sometimes find relatively "cool" things), and Neiman Marcus is just old money (very elegant, top-notch upscale). I'd say Skylofts would be Barneys (very modern, lots of technology), Bellagio would be Saks (semi-modern, nice, kind of enjoyable for everyone), and Wynn would be Neimans (very elegant, if a group of college students went in they'd likely get dirty looks from just about everyone). Anyway, that's my speech, thanks for your input, though.

Of course most of the members of this board are NOT "starving" college students (probably wouldn't be so starving if I spent my money on food rather than hotel rooms but hey, that's my problem), so their tastes will likely vary.

Does anyone else have a hard time wrapping "starving college student" and "I stay at Wynn, Bellagio, and Skylofts" into their brain? :D :D :D

Well, you either live off Top Ramen and save your money to stay at Wynn, or you live off Dominos Pizza and (Dominos adds up!) don't get to have a little extra fun. Who says everyone has to have the same college experience? ;)

The one thing I will say is that the decor between Wynn, Bellagio, and Skylofts varies greatly. I find Wynn overly elegant, and I often compare it to the likes of three department stores; Barneys, Saks, and Neiman Marcus.


I like your analogy. As I said, staying at Skylofts once is definitely an experience ! It's just that the novelty does wear off and it turns out it's really more like a Barney's boutique that you have to walk through Walmart to get to...

I lived pretty well when I was a college student too by working part-time and measuring each shift as a new sweater etc. Vegas is definitely the place for trying good hotels. When you're done school, you can start branching out to places like Four Seasons George V ^ !

Well, you either live off Top Ramen and save your money to stay at Wynn, or you live off Dominos Pizza and (Dominos adds up!) don't get to have a little extra fun. Who says everyone has to have the same college experience? ;)

For me, definitely food first, shelter later :D.

Would you be able to expand more on THEhotel. What interactions did you have that made you feel the service was excellent? Any other amenities/facilities that stood out?

We've booked two out of our four nights in Vegas at the Wynn (basic resort room) at $139/night with $75 gaming credit and want to book another two nights somewhere else for some variety. We're thinking about a room at THEhotel using a $99/night offer that we recently received.

Both place are probably a bit overkill for us based on our level of play and our limited usage of most hotel's amenities/facilities but we thought we'd take advantage of some great rates in December.

I arrived at around 1PM by limo. A very helpful bell hop took our luggage and his great attitude started things off well. I went to the check-in where the line was at least ten people long, but it moved VERY quickly. After waiting about two minutes, I was assisted by a young and very attractive hotel clerk. She greeted me with a very pleasant attitude, and immediately recognized that I booked through FHR and thanked me for booking THEhotel with Amex. I had made a few requests through PTS (high floor facing strip), and she acknowledged those without having to ask.

There were three of us staying in the room. She offered with a high floor standard suite with two queens, or a V-suite with a single large king. She offered to have a second roll away bed taken to the room for no charge. I accepted the V-suite with extra bed. She said she found a room, but wanted to see if she could find something better. She went in the back for about a minute, then returned and stated that she had a very nice room for us. It was the top floor corner suite facing the strip (I believe 36th floor?). She had an AMEX FHR envelope with my name on it waiting, and said that since there were three in our party, they gave us extra food credits (FHR normally only includes credit for two). She reminded me about my spa credit, and also gave free passes to The Foundation Room, and some other type of club. She said that our bags would be in our room shortly. She gave her name and said that I can contact her for anything else during my stay.

We shot up to our suite and were pleased. About a minute after we entered, the phone rang and the person wanted to confirm that we were in our room. A couple minutes later, all of our luggage arrived, and a moment after that, our additional bed arrived (which was actually a nice bed). We started to unpack, and the front desk clerk called to ask if we had received everything and if there was anything else we needed. I asked for a bottle of Vodka, and sure enough, 20 minutes later we had one with a few mixers. It never showed up on our bill.

I should note that I of course tipped people along the way, and that sure helps. It was a great stay. We had enough food credit to get both breakfast and lunch each day at the restaurant downstairs.

Overall, an excellent experience.

She had an AMEX FHR envelope with my name on it waiting, and said that since there were three in our party, they gave us extra food credits (FHR normally only includes credit for two).

^^ that was a very nice gesture.

I arrived at around 1PM by limo. <snip>
Overall, an excellent experience.

Thanks for the follow-up; that sounded excellent. One thing I really like is not having to repeat myself and explain everything again in detail when I've supplied key info already (like in my reservation). The bonus is when little details are picked up on without needing to ask, like offering you the second rollaway bed, extra meal vouchers, etc. A follow-up is nice too.

Hmm, will have to see if the wife is game on staying here our other nights.

Thanks for the follow-up; that sounded excellent. One thing I really like is not having to repeat myself and explain everything again in detail when I've supplied key info already (like in my reservation). The bonus is when little details are picked up on without needing to ask, like offering you the second rollaway bed, extra meal vouchers, etc. A follow-up is nice too.

Hmm, will have to see if the wife is game on staying here our other nights.

As great as the stay was I'm still going to check out the Skylofts next time just to mix things up. I'm going to book a 1BR and hope to be upgraded to the 2BR. I've accepted that hotels in Vegas are so damn cheap compared to my usual destinations (NYC) so I might as well spend the extra on the better room.

Totally ironic, isn't it, jgsx? I found it funny that a barely 200sq. ft. room in NYC can run you upward of $500, whereas, on a good day, you can grab a 1400sq. ft Skyloft, complete with butler, for less. One of the things that makes me happy that Vegas is just a quick plane ride away! But then again, NYC is a great place, so many times the cost can be justified.

Thanks for the update regarding TheHotel. Everytime I stay at that property I always have an enjoyable stay. My most recent got me a great rate through FHR, upgrade to V-Suite, $50 breakfast credit (x3 nights = $150 credit), and $100 spa credit. Ended up using the spa credit at Spa Mandalay as The Bathhouse was full, front desk took care of everything. Can't wait for my Skylofts stay, but TheHotel is a property I will return to time and time again ^

It's funny to see THEhotel and the Wynn being compared as I stayed at both properties on my last trip to Vegas two years ago. I have to say they are quite different, to say the least. THEhotel, I felt, catered to a younger crowd, probably the mid-20's to early-30's, looking for hip, yet "upscale" accommodations, similar to the W concept, I guess. However, beyond the "modern" design in the public spaces and the largeness of the "standard" suites, there really isn't much that distinguishes it as a hotel.

The Wynn, on the other hand, seems to cater to a more "sophisticated" crowd, one that has been around the block and has stayed in other "luxury" properties in Vegas and elsewhere. However, I wasn't terribly impressed with the Wynn either. While I thought the room was very well-appointed, and certainly there was a great attention to detail, from the HDTV sets to the bedsheets, I wasn't a huge fan of the colors and general interior design of the room. The view of the "waterfall" and "laser show" at night wasn't exactly thrilling, not when compared to, say, the fountains at the Bellagio. Also when we were there, much of the view was a giant construction site, which isn't necessarily the fault of the hotel, but which impacted our experience nevertheless.

To compare the two properties, one can easily argue that the Wynn has a "nicer" room, but if it's space you're looking for, you definitely do better at THEhotel. It may be because we stayed at the Wynn right after THEhotel that we felt a little cramped and claustrophobic at the Wynn. But I would say the Wynn beats THEhotel is most other aspects, from the casino to the restaurants to the public spaces. The pool, however, is arguably better at THEhotel which really is the Mandalay Bay pool, though the crowd there is more "family" versus "adult" at the Wynn.

Neither hotel I think compares to my favorite hotel in Vegas so far which is the Four Seasons. I remember the signature "Four Seasons Room" quite fondly, with its amazing views and floor-to-ceiling windows, and which in our opinion was better than the one-bedroom suite we put up our parents in. We're staying at the Skylofts next month, however, and we're looking forward to see if we'll have a new favorite hotel in Vegas.

interesting this thread is in vegas forum not lux hotels.

FS with renovation would be interesting. would compete more directly with upcoming MO and Wynn Encore "Tower" (hopefully a sure thing)

pool/room comparison >
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8098527&postcount=37

wynn tower and thehotel are comparable in terms of # of rooms.

thehotel and skylofts are comparable in terms of penthouse overall size/pricing.

Let us not forget, the "best" in Vegas is basically untouchable to regular revenue hotel guests. It just doesn't make economic sense for any Vegas property to offer their best suites and butlers to any paid hotel guests.

You wouldn't consider offering a suite for $5K to $10K per night, when you could hold that suite back for someone who bets $5K to $25K per hand.

And, as we all know, the room is only as good as the overall service --- and there are stellar butlers at all of the top Vegas properties.

Neither hotel I think compares to my favorite hotel in Vegas so far which is the Four Seasons. I remember the signature "Four Seasons Room" quite fondly, with its amazing views and floor-to-ceiling windows, and which in our opinion was better than the one-bedroom suite we put up our parents in. We're staying at the Skylofts next month, however, and we're looking forward to see if we'll have a new favorite hotel in Vegas.

Would this be the same as the 180 degree suite? I hit the FHR upgrade jackpot once and got this room and my gawd was I impressed. Hardly did any gambling as I stayed in the room the whole time.

A thread asking about the best hotel in Vegas and not one mention of The Mansion at MGM Grand?

Realistically though (as in, less than $5k per night), Wynn Tower Suites is the most well-rounded excelling every other hotel in Vegas in nearly every respect. Caesars may have the better spa, but it's a non-masterplanned mess inside. Bellagio may have the better location, but you'll be walking 600 feet from entrance to hotel elevators versus Wynn's 70. THEhotel is a nice suite and that's about it (though I enjoy MIX). Skylofts has the huge room and butlers, but the zoo that is MGM downstairs ruins the experience. The personal service and size of Tower Suites offers an intimacy that no other hotel in Vegas, including the Four Seasons, can touch. I love that I can take the elevator down and sneak into the baccarat salon in total privacy without entering a completely public space or actually go to the pool in swim trunks and a shirt without being seen.

...but the zoo that is MGM downstairs ruins the experience.

This is my pet peeve about MGM too and hardly ever stay there.

Would this be the same as the 180 degree suite? I hit the FHR upgrade jackpot once and got this room and my gawd was I impressed. Hardly did any gambling as I stayed in the room the whole time.

Yes, it's that one exactly! I especially loved the "T-shape" layout of the room, with the large foyer when you walked in, the marble bathroom to the left, and the sizeable walk-in closet on the right. Then you walk straight into that incredible room with the bed on one side, the desk in the middle, and the living area on the other side. For this size of room, I have to say the layout is near perfect. In fact, I prefer it to bigger suites with the living room and bedroom separated by a wall, like the one my parents stayed in, because those suites don't have the amazing 180 degree views.

as mike pointed out mansion is bookable. its priced high to keep bookings low. but still far better value than fantasy suites at palms.

IIRC in luxury hotels forum, FS is the best regarded from a service standpoint, and is the smallest besides the mansion. (skylofts isnt self contained) wynn tower has 55% more rooms than FS.

it will be interesting to see how many rooms a potential wynn encore tower will have.

Yes, it's that one exactly! I especially loved the "T-shape" layout of the room, with the large foyer when you walked in, the marble bathroom to the left, and the sizeable walk-in closet on the right. Then you walk straight into that incredible room with the bed on one side, the desk in the middle, and the living area on the other side. For this size of room, I have to say the layout is near perfect. In fact, I prefer it to bigger suites with the living room and bedroom separated by a wall, like the one my parents stayed in, because those suites don't have the amazing 180 degree views.

^ I had the mirror image of your layout. I agree, it is laid out quite well and the view is worth a million bucks especially at night. The room I got also had a birds-eye view of McCarran so that was a bonus.

http://www.fourseasons.com/lasvegas/guest_rooms_and_suites.html

BTW re 180 Degree Strip View Suite ($4K)

http://www.onekeyworld.com/content71.html
has it and Presidential Suite ($5K), both with connecting room ($?) for $2300

http://www.onekeyworld.com/onekeyworld/pricing.php
$35K for 15 night card (can use at any of their properties)

The one that comps us? :D

Just got back from my first stay at Skylofts. Hands down, best hotel in Las Vegas. I would even go as far as saying best hotel I have ever stayed at ever, and I've stayed in a few. The service was beyond impeccable, and room incredible, and I will be returning there without a doubt. Only problem is that I've spoiled myself, I don't know if I'll be able to go back to regular Vegas again :D

Every hotel can be tops, as long as you know which suite you're wanting to stay in...

Bellagio: Cypress Suites, hands-down, the best suites in the house (other than the ground-level villas). Great layout and perfect placement within the property. A perfect suite for those who love a lot of natural light.

Wynn: I love the Salon Suite. Staying in a Villa next week. Wynn's service is impeccable and the clientele you're surrounded by is top-notch.

SkyLofts: Great concept. Wonderful floor of 51 rooms, but when you leave the floor, it's just insanity. MGM craziness. Not worth it to me to deal with all of that hullabaroo just for a Maybach ride.

THEhotel: I can't believe people are putting this property in with the others listed above. It's looking shabby, needs a remodel and has a VERY small variance of suites/rooms. A 'V-Suite' is nothing more than a corner room with an added chair in the bedroom. It's literally only 20 more sq ft than a regular room. Eh.

Added, it's turning into batchelor/batchelorette party headquarters. Too loud, too tacky and not quite personal enough for me.

Red Rock Resort: Yeah, it's a drive and a real pain in the ..., but they have some IMPECCABLE suites. Unfortunate that it's so far out of town, but if you're wanting to take an off-strip vacation (or get a car service or rental car), this is THE choice.


Sure, i'm a picky guy, but i'm also willing to spend a buck on a good room. I expect nothing but grade-A from properties, especially in such a service-oriented city like Las Vegas.



BN

Bellagio: Cypress Suites, hands-down, the best suites in the house (other than the ground-level villas). Great layout and perfect placement within the property. A perfect suite for those who love a lot of natural light.

I wouldn't even consider those real suites since they have no partitions between living and sleeping areas. Between them and the villas, there are many much better suite options in my opinion including the nearly-as-lavish Presidential and Chairman suites.

Every hotel can be tops, as long as you know which suite you're wanting to stay in...

Bellagio: Cypress Suites, hands-down, the best suites in the house (other than the ground-level villas). Great layout and perfect placement within the property. A perfect suite for those who love a lot of natural light.

Wynn: I love the Salon Suite. Staying in a Villa next week. Wynn's service is impeccable and the clientele you're surrounded by is top-notch.

SkyLofts: Great concept. Wonderful floor of 51 rooms, but when you leave the floor, it's just insanity. MGM craziness. Not worth it to me to deal with all of that hullabaroo just for a Maybach ride.

THEhotel: I can't believe people are putting this property in with the others listed above. It's looking shabby, needs a remodel and has a VERY small variance of suites/rooms. A 'V-Suite' is nothing more than a corner room with an added chair in the bedroom. It's literally only 20 more sq ft than a regular room. Eh.

Added, it's turning into batchelor/batchelorette party headquarters. Too loud, too tacky and not quite personal enough for me.

Red Rock Resort: Yeah, it's a drive and a real pain in the ..., but they have some IMPECCABLE suites. Unfortunate that it's so far out of town, but if you're wanting to take an off-strip vacation (or get a car service or rental car), this is THE choice.


Sure, i'm a picky guy, but i'm also willing to spend a buck on a good room. I expect nothing but grade-A from properties, especially in such a service-oriented city like Las Vegas.



BN

As always, it's all preference. While I think Wynn is probably the most elegant resort on the strip, I simply don't enjoy being surrounded by that super high-end clientele. It might be the fact that I'm young, but I certainly don't like being looked down at as a kid who shouldn't be there. That's why I've always enjoyed TheHotel, although I agree that it was a great kept secret for a while, but is now becoming just a party property. As I previously stated, the Skylofts is my new favorite, decor is top notch (again preference, I really don't like the decor at Wynn at all, it is of course nice just not my taste), but the service made me feel like a king. Will be writing a review on TripAdvisor for anyone interested in hearing more about my stay.

...While I think Wynn is probably the most elegant resort on the strip, I simply don't enjoy being surrounded by that super high-end clientele. It might be the fact that I'm young, but I certainly don't like being looked down at as a kid who shouldn't be there. That's why I've always enjoyed TheHotel...

Huh? I don't see much difference between THEhotel and Wynn in terms of the clientèle. I see well-dressed and polite clientèle at both locations.

M8

...
THEhotel: I can't believe people are putting this property in with the others listed above. It's looking shabby, needs a remodel and has a VERY small variance of suites/rooms. A 'V-Suite' is nothing more than a corner room with an added chair in the bedroom. It's literally only 20 more sq ft than a regular room. Eh.

Added, it's turning into batchelor/batchelorette party headquarters. Too loud, too tacky and not quite personal enough for me.

Red Rock Resort: Yeah, it's a drive and a real pain in the ..., but they have some IMPECCABLE suites. Unfortunate that it's so far out of town, but if you're wanting to take an off-strip vacation (or get a car service or rental car), this is THE choice.


I've stayed at THEhotel several times now, and was only disappointed once when there was a plumbing problem with the whole tower. We were comped the room, as was everyone else. I think it's a fine property, and I have not experienced anything you describe above.

Red Rock has had horrible growing pains. It opened too early and things were not functioning right and I have heard it has not gotten any better. We have stayed at SunCoast several times, which is just down the street, and have found it to be much better.

Cheers,

M8

Huh? I don't see much difference between THEhotel and Wynn in terms of the clientèle. I see well-dressed and polite clientèle at both locations.

M8

I think there's a huge clientele difference between the two properties. TheHotel is much more of a younger, hip crowd. At least from the times I've stayed there, that's the impression I got. Wynn is much more of the business-man type, where dressing nice and elegance is a part of the ambiance. I've just always felt out of place at Wynn, frequently feeling like they don't like "kids" being there (I'm not a kid but dress and look much younger than I probably should), whereas TheHotel seems to welcome that. If I want to walk around in sweat pants and a t-shirt, I feel comfortable doing that at TheHotel. Wynn, I always feel like I need to dress up just to go walk through the property. Kind of like how I seem to never get attention in high-end department stores when I dress down, whereas if I dress up and make an effort to enhance my appearance, I got frequent help and attention. In my own defense, I don't feel the need to dress up to go shopping. Nor should I feel that way about walking through a hotel.

That, of course, is just how I look at things. It's kind of the same mindset that if I had the option of staying at The Mansion or Skylofts for exactly the same price, I think I'd pick the Skylofts. I don't like that elegant, Tuscan feel, which is why I really don't like the decor at Wynn. It just doesn't do much for me. But it works for the thousands of other guests staying there, so all is well.

Wynn is much more of the business-man type, where dressing nice and elegance is a part of the ambiance.

Well, that Wynn ambiance sure goes downhill when I'm there :p. Jeans and t-shirt is what they will get from me.

I'm planning something special for my girlfriend and I and I need advice on a very nice room. I was gonna book through lasvegasinhotels.com, but I am not sure which hotel to book. I was thinking maybe the Wynn, Signature at MGM, or THEHotel at Mandalay Bay. I like the Skylofts at MGM, but they are out of my price range. Anyone stay in any of the above hotel rooms or have any personal experiences with a great hotel room in Las Vegas? Input would be great. Thanks

Welcome to FlyerTalk, tre01us!

The best hotel room in Vegas for us is the one that's comped!

I'm sure others will chime in with additional input. ;)

Have fun on FlyerTalk!

Aloha!

I'm planning something special for my girlfriend and I and I need advice on a very nice room. I was gonna book through lasvegasinhotels.com, but I am not sure which hotel to book. I was thinking maybe the Wynn, Signature at MGM, or THEHotel at Mandalay Bay. I like the Skylofts at MGM, but they are out of my price range. Anyone stay in any of the above hotel rooms or have any personal experiences with a great hotel room in Las Vegas? Input would be great. Thanks

I think all the hotels you mentioned sound great, and I've actually stayed at all of them except for Signature and Skylofts, though I will have the pleasure of staying in a Skyloft in about a week. Despite not having stayed there before, from what I've heard and read, I would say probably go for Signature.

The reason I say that is because it seems you can get a lot more for your buck. For what you would be paying for a junior or one bedroom suite at Signature, you could probably only get a non-suite room at the Wynn, if that. Which would still be really nice, though I found those standard Wynn rooms to be a little cramped for my own tastes. You could probably get a similar sized room for the same price at THEhotel, though the Signature is newer and probably in much better shape.

Still, I think all these properties are good and you couldn't go wrong, really, on whatever you choose. Keep in mind my perspective is on the room only. If you are considering other factors, such as location, view, casino, restaurants, service, etc., then that could alter the recommendations.

Hi tre01us, we're going to need some more info from you particularly what you consider "great." Is it the view you're looking for, or? Will you be going during weekday or weekend (will make a difference in price). Looks like you're shooting for a price range of $300/night, is this about right?

I believe the TheHotel has some specials going on right now..the views are awesome since you are on the southern end of the strip looking north if you get a room facing that direction....Mandalay Bay just completed renovations of their rooms which are nice...

TheHotel

THEdeluxe

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The venetian sent me this

http://www.venetian.com/SUITELFPAC.aspx

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I believe the TheHotel has some specials going on right now..the views are awesome since you are on the southern end of the strip looking north if you get a room facing that direction....

Thanks for the links. Just note that the TheDeluxe room that TheHotel is promoting is not a suite.

As one who has made the BAD mistake of booking through a third party, I beg of you for your own sake, do NOT book through anyone other than the hotel directly unless you have something like AMEX where they'll actually go to bat for you. I've paid for really good rooms through third parties like Travelocity and ended up with **** for a view with no chance of an upgrade, even though the room itself was "as advertised".

Definitely agree with above. Either book through the hotel directly or use a travel service like AMEX FHR, Virtuoso (free), or Five Star Alliance. All of the aforementioned services offer you additional amenities at the same rates that the hotel is giving you. Personally, I like Virtuoso at the Wynn:

- $20 per person breakfast credit at Terrace Pointe Cafe (MUCH better breakfast than the buffet)
- 1 spa pass per day per person ($25 per pass value)
- complimentary 1 level upgrade available at check-in (should be able to secure any night except Saturdays...Fridays can be hard as well). This equates to a standard room --> panoramic view...or a Tower Suites room --> Executive Suite.

Thanks for all the input, it is very much appreciated. I'm gonna start looking more into the Signatures and the Wynn. My main focus is how nice the inside of the room is. I want a comfortable bed as well as she is picky about that:). Having a suite would be nice so it looks like the Signatures are most likely going to be the best value. Anyone actually stay there? If so, how are the beds? Thanks again!

Is this your first trip to Las Vegas?
Bellagio, Caesars and Venetian may be possibilities as well. They are all located in the central part of the strip and may require less walking/cab rides than the properties on the southern end of the strip.

I've stayed at Signature, Wynn and will be at TheHotel next week. I didn't particularly like Wynn as it was too much a GIGANTIC VEGAS HOTEL. We had a suite in the Towers section, and it was ok, but a bit too glam-like for our tastes. We also had a suite at Signature and preferred it as it was off from the main part of MGM and a bit more modern. Here are some pics of our room at Signature:
http://www1.snapfish.com/share/p=321121197464826372/l=323541401/g=6397609/otsc=S
YE/otsi=SALB

Thanks for all the input, it is very much appreciated. I'm gonna start looking more into the Signatures and the Wynn. My main focus is how nice the inside of the room is. I want a comfortable bed as well as she is picky about that:). Having a suite would be nice so it looks like the Signatures are most likely going to be the best value. Anyone actually stay there? If so, how are the beds? Thanks again!

The bed at the Wynn is ^^^!!! The 3 times I've stayed there this year...I find myself never wanting to get out of bed and go gamble...and I LOVE playing blackjack. I'm sorry that I can't speak for the other properties but the Wynn bed is something they're known for...and for good reason! :)

I've stayed at Signature, Wynn and will be at TheHotel next week. I didn't particularly like Wynn as it was too much a GIGANTIC VEGAS HOTEL. We had a suite in the Towers section, and it was ok, but a bit too glam-like for our tastes.

:confused::confused::confused:

Wynn is the one mega resort that doesn't have that feel IMO...especially if you're in the Tower Suites. If you stay in Tower Suites, from the moment you pull in, check in, and head to your room...you never come near seeing the casino floor...nor do you hear it. That's another thing I enjoy at the Wynn...the casino noise (ie slot noise) is the softest of any property and gives it a much more relaxed, classy feel IMO. Nothing at all like B or Venetian.

While Sig is nice (visited a friend staying there...never stayed myself)...you're still going back to the cluster and chaos that is MGM Grand and that's a big turnoff for me.

:confused::confused::confused:

Wynn is the one mega resort that doesn't have that feel IMO...especially if you're in the Tower Suites. If you stay in Tower Suites, from the moment you pull in, check in, and head to your room...you never come near seeing the casino floor...nor do you hear it.

How did you acomplish that? When we arrived at Wynn, we used the Self Parking lot right off the Strip. You exit that garage by the poker rooms/high priced car dealership etc, then have to walk through the casino, past the regular hotel check in to get to the Towers area. (BTW-- we NEVER do Valet parking)

How did you acomplish that? When we arrived at Wynn, we used the Self Parking lot right off the Strip. You exit that garage by the poker rooms/high priced car dealership etc, then have to walk through the casino, past the regular hotel check in to get to the Towers area. (BTW-- we NEVER do Valet parking)

I never take a car in Vegas. Always have somebody pick me up at the airport...thus I arrive at the South Tower entrance (Tower Suites entrance) and go about my merry way. It's quite an enjoyable experience! :)

By that theory, you could accomplish the same at TheHotel. I usually take a taxi from the airport, and I am dropped off at the valet entrance for TheHotel. From here, I can check-in and head to my room without ever going anywhere near the casino. ^

It's amazing reading this forum how many people seem to want to go to Vegas, but avoid people, large hotels and casinos. :confused:

What else is going on in Vegas that I'm missing? The whole place is built around gigantic hotels and casinos, packed with people. If I didn't want that, I'd go somewhere else entirely; it's not like this city is the cultural capital of the world or something.

It's amazing reading this forum how many people seem to want to go to Vegas, but avoid people, large hotels and casinos. :confused:

What else is going on in Vegas that I'm missing? The whole place is built around gigantic hotels and casinos, packed with people. If I didn't want that, I'd go somewhere else entirely; it's not like this city is the cultural capital of the world or something.

Some people go for the shopping, food, spas, art (to a lesser extent) and golf. Vegas is also at the top of the country in those areas as well.

Vegas is the mecca for entertainment, restaurants, shopping, etc. I personally don't gamble, but Vegas is the one place where I can go and accomplish a spa experience, great shopping, dining, and live entertainment all within a few miles. Not to mention some of the best rooms in the world! Nothing wrong with the casino every now and then, but it is nice to have the option of going to a hotel where I don't have to be surrounded by smoke and constant clanging noises.

but Vegas is the one place where I can go and accomplish a spa experience, great shopping, dining, and live entertainment all within a few miles.

:confused: how 'bout New York City :D:D

I think Vegas offers the most options as well as reasonable room rates. NYC is just out of this world. Looking for two nights in June and it is outrageous.

I think Vegas offers the most options as well as reasonable room rates. NYC is just out of this world. Looking for two nights in June and it is outrageous.

Define outrageous; a Skyloft on a hot weekend (Friday/Saturday night) is comparable (in price) to an Orient Designer Suite at the St. Regis (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/stregis/property/rooms/room_class_detail.html?propertyID=81&roomClassId=83100050). [but, you get a better view at the St. Regis]

Actually, if "paying" for rooms in Vegas --- there are many that find a Friday/Saturday night in Vegas to be just as outrageous. Thank goodness for comps :D

and think of all the miles and points ;) --- tons of point earning Sheratons, Hiltons, and Hyatts to choose from in NYC. :D

Define outrageous; a Skyloft on a hot weekend (Friday/Saturday night) is comparable (in price) to an Orient Designer Suite at the St. Regis (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/stregis/property/rooms/room_class_detail.html?propertyID=81&roomClassId=83100050). [but, you get a better view at the St. Regis]


Well, outrageous to me is $300 and up for a regular Hilton-type room, yeah I know that is the norm in NYC, but when it's out of my own pocket :td: :).

I actually did look at St. Regis, and should stress "looked". Wow, a dime for a standard room is not outrageous but out of this world.

Actually, if "paying" for rooms in Vegas --- there are many that find a Friday/Saturday night in Vegas to be just as outrageous. Thank goodness for comps :D


Yeah, I guess I'm a bit spoiled ;).

and think of all the miles and points ;) --- tons of point earning Sheratons, Hiltons, and Hyatts to choose from in NYC. :D

Got plenty of points and redemption is outrageous too. 120K for Waldorf, ugh, and it's not even for the Tower.

How did you acomplish that? When we arrived at Wynn, we used the Self Parking lot right off the Strip. You exit that garage by the poker rooms/high priced car dealership etc, then have to walk through the casino, past the regular hotel check in to get to the Towers area. (BTW-- we NEVER do Valet parking)I don't do valet parking in LA where I live -- but I have never had a problem at any Vegas Strip hotel. If you're staying in the Wynn Tower Suites and you arrive by foot, taxi, limo, or valet you're there -- no walk through the casino, no walk, period. Even if you park in the self park garage, you have a really minimal (< 200 yds) walk to get to the Tower Suites (check your bags with the bellhop at the TS entrance, and then park). No, you do not have to walk past the "regular hotel check in" to get from the self park garage to the Tower Suite front desk, if you do then you are lost. Also, make sure you use the private TS entrance on Spring Mtn Rd, don't go to the main entrance or you will have to walk through the casino. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't all TS guests get free+tip limo rides from LAS?

Somehow I knew someone was going to say NYC, but in my mind, Vegas is a much better value than NY. I went to NYC last month, stayed at the Hyatt at Grand Central Station, and paid, with tax, almost $500 per night. No special weekend, just a regular night. Standard hotel room, nothing special. A week later, went to Vegas and paid LESS than $500, with tax, for a Skylofts stay, and was upgraded to a 2br. Not to mention a $100 spa credit, and free breakfasts. As a New Yorker myself, who now resides on the east coast, I still pick the dining options in Vegas over NYC, as well as entertainment.

Got plenty of points and redemption is outrageous too. 120K for Waldorf, ugh, and it's not even for the Tower.

I agree with that. The HH redemption restriction at the Waldorf-Towers is crazy. The W-Towers is the only property we stay at in NYC; since our corporate rate is very good, and they have been very "nice" with room upgrades (in advance). I've always had good experiences at the Towers, but personally feel the W-Astoria is too inconsistent.

Don't forget to research priceline -- sometimes, you can be quite lucky in NYC with 4* properties.

[sorry, in advance, for the NYC off topic posting]

:confused: how 'bout New York City :D:D

At this time of the year, I'd venture to guess that Vegas is a tad bit warmer then NYC ;)

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* $25 activity credit towards dining, entertainment or spa services
* Two complimentary cocktails at The Signature Lounge

Actually, if "paying" for rooms in Vegas --- there are many that find a Friday/Saturday night in Vegas to be just as outrageous. Thank goodness for comps
Of course, unless you're an advantage player (which I'm guessing that even here few, if any, are), the only reason you're getting those "free" things is because the math says you're going to lose 3-5 times as much as the cost of the "freebies." ;)

(Unless you're playing tables at Harrahs, where they expect you to lose about 20 times more than you'll be comped.)

Somehow I knew someone was going to say NYC, but in my mind, Vegas is a much better value than NY. I went to NYC last month, stayed at the Hyatt at Grand Central Station, and paid, with tax, almost $500 per night. No special weekend, just a regular night. Standard hotel room, nothing special. A week later, went to Vegas and paid LESS than $500, with tax, for a Skylofts stay, and was upgraded to a 2br. Not to mention a $100 spa credit, and free breakfasts. As a New Yorker myself, who now resides on the east coast, I still pick the dining options in Vegas over NYC, as well as entertainment.
Seems like you both got an especially high rate at the Hyatt and an especially low rate for the Skylofts. Not exactly an equal comparison.

As for the dining in Vegas, that tends to be way overpriced, IMO. Price inflation there is pretty "impressive", especially when it comes to wine. Sure there are lots of options, but you're certainly paying plenty for the convenience.


In any event, I'm optimistic about all of the development in Vegas bringing down prices across the board. Within three years 25% more hotel rooms will be online (along with more of everything else), while the number of visitors is only growing at about 1%. Combined with the extra competition from Macau and Atlantic City (assuming the proposed projects happen), things will start looking even better for the customer soon. ^

....the only reason you're getting those "free" things is because the math says you're going to lose 3-5 times as much as the cost of the "freebies." ;)

(Unless you're playing tables at Harrahs, where they expect you to lose about 20 times more than you'll be comped.)

Mmmmmm.......that's not how it works, though that may be your experience.

Comps are based on average wager x time spent wagering. The "math says" your expected loss is the house edge: ~1.5% of your total bets at BJ, for instance. Not 3-5, nor 20 times the value of the comps. Nor any other calculation. But that's a different thread, already much discussed.

Please pardon the pedantry - and the alliteration - but as a once a month visitor to LV, I must assert that while the house edge is virtually inescapable over the long term, comps can bring that house edge to a zero or even slightly net positive player expectation with smart, controlled, shrewd and sober wagering and strategy.

To stay on topic, as I posted earlier in this thread, the best hotel room in LV for us is the one that's comped for our level of play.

Comps are based on average wager x time spent wagering. The "math says" your expected loss is the house edge: ~1.5% of your total bets at BJ, for instance. Not 3-5, nor 20 times the value of the comps. Nor any other calculation. But that's a different thread, already much discussed.
You have part of the formula right, but you're missing the rest. Casinos don't comp you back 100% of your expected loss.

Here's how it works: the house multiplies your total action by the house edge (or its estimation of the house edge on the average player for the game in question), resulting in your "theoretical," which is your expected loss / the house's expected win.

Casinos then are typically willing to comp you back 20-33% of your theoretical. (In other words, i.e. working in the other direction, your expected loss is roughly 3-5 times the value of the comps you get.)

IME, Harrahs, for table game players, gives a tiny fraction of what other casinos comp, however (10% of what MGM Mirage gives in my one empirical test).

Please pardon the pedantry - and the alliteration - but as a once a month visitor to LV, I must assert that while the house edge is virtually inescapable over the long term, comps can bring that house edge to a zero or even slightly net positive player expectation with smart, controlled, shrewd and sober wagering and strategy.
I agree that this is possible, which is why I said, "unless you're an advantage player ..." in the post you responded to.

But I also know how people (mis)value things. Take the FlyerTalker who claims to have "saved" $10,000 by using miles for a long-haul first class ticket, which is justification for having spent thousands on mileage runs or what have you. He was never willing to spend $10,000 on the ticket in the first place (since he would have flown discount economy otherwise), so that's not the real value of the ticket to him.

Similarly in Vegas, someone may get a comped room that had a rack rate of $800, but really they were only willing to spend $200. Yet they treat it like they "saved" $800 per night for the three nights they were there, thereby justifying a much higher level of gambing (and expected losses) than is rationally supported by the fact that they were really only saving $600 for the whole trip thanks to the comped room, not $2,400.

NYC is just out of this world. Looking for two nights in June and it is outrageous.NYC suggestions for value >

starwood
- st regis spg50/award or paid through virtuoso for upgrade at booking
- four points chelsea paid/award

luxury
- trump (with amex FHR, last i looked FHR was $495 and BAR was $700)
- ritz carlton battery park

other
- boutiques, check out tablethotels.com for example

So glad I don't gamble or drink! Saves me plenty of money that I can use toward a hotel room and shopping ^

You have part of the formula right, but you're missing the rest........

Exactly. But there's two parts to the story: cashback and comps. While the formula is applied rigidly to cashback, there is alot of leeway in what a friendly suit will comp you! We give our business to casinos who are generous with RFB comps.....the cashback formula is pretty ubiquitous.
Comps can often equal or exceed real losses. Cashback will almost never.

So glad I don't gamble or drink! Saves me plenty of money that I can use toward a hotel room and shopping ^

Ooooh, but when that craps table starts hemorrhaging money.........:D

Lists Bellagio as the number one in Vegas. Number 2 (in total score) was Four Seasons and number 3 was Wynn Resort. Signature and Skylofts not even mentioned nor was The Hotel at MB.

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You have part of the formula right, but you're missing the rest........

Exactly. But there's two parts to the story: cashback and comps. While the formula is applied rigidly to cashback, there is alot of leeway in what a friendly suit will comp you! We give our business to casinos who are generous with RFB comps.....the cashback formula is pretty ubiquitous.
Comps can often equal or exceed real losses. Cashback will almost never.

The same formula is used for both cashback and comps, but with different comp percentages. Both are based on the casino's theoretical win - when your host checks his computer, it tells him precisely how much in comps you have "earned" - that is, the amount of your theoretical loss he can give back to you in comps. Of course, at most properties they have some discretion as to what they'll give.

The same formula is used for both cashback and comps, but with different comp percentages.....

OK, lets see where we're at: We both know the formulae and agree on the facts, but you think it's a bad deal for suckers and I think it's a great deal for the savvy gambler?

Here's where I'm driving: As I stated: "The best hotel room in Las Vegas is the one I'm comped". Now once a month I go to Downtown Las Vegas for 4 nights Sun - Thurs; 4 nights comped. Rooms are cheap, Downtown, anyway: $50 or less a night, average. So they're comping me $200 right off the bat, every month. By the standard formula, that translates into $50,000 - $70,000 dollars in play: yes/no? Suffice it to say I don't come anywhere near grinding that amount month after month. So my point is that phat comps do not have to come at the expense of tremendous losses, nor high rolling, which is the point I am trying to make in response to what I think was your point that "they want you to lose 3 to 5 to even 20 times what they comp you", or some such assertion. Yes/No?

Anyway, suffice it to say, that in my experience, the combination of staying and gambling Downtown, weeknights, not weekends, and staying at the same property time after time, and cultivating relationships with suits who stay on the job at that property, along with strategy to maximize or even exagerrate greatly the amount of wagering for which I am credited, leads to comps that greatly exceed the amount one would calculate using the industry standard formula.

(Ever have a pit boss say "Hey, Doppy: I'm putting you down for twice your average bet. wink. Don't say nuthin', OK. wink!" ? I have!)

That's all part of the fun of finding the best hotel room in Vegas!

NYC suggestions for value >

starwood
- st regis spg50/award or paid through virtuoso for upgrade at booking
- four points chelsea paid/award

luxury
- trump (with amex FHR, last i looked FHR was $495 and BAR was $700)
- ritz carlton battery park

other
- boutiques, check out tablethotels.com for example

Thanks :)

OK, lets see where we're at: We both know the formulae and agree on the facts, but you think it's a bad deal for suckers and I think it's a great deal for the savvy gambler?
I think we agree on both of those points - I'd say that most people fall into the former category, but people in the latter can make a pretty good deal out of it if they know how. Do you not agree that "suckers" who don't know what they're doing aren't making a profit on the comp system? If they were, people wouldn't be clamoring to build all of these casinos.

People in the former category are basically getting about 20-33% of their expected loss back, which, like I said above, means that for every $100 room they get comped, they were expected (though obviously individual results will vary) to lose somewhere between $300 and $500.

Anyway, suffice it to say, that in my experience, the combination of staying and gambling Downtown, weeknights, not weekends, and staying at the same property time after time, and cultivating relationships with suits who stay on the job at that property, along with strategy to maximize or even exagerrate greatly the amount of wagering for which I am credited, leads to comps that greatly exceed the amount one would calculate using the industry standard formula.
Again, I would put this under the category of advantage play. I have no doubt that it's possible and I have certainly played the game. But primarily I was noting above that the average player isn't doing this.

(Ever have a pit boss say "Hey, Doppy: I'm putting you down for twice your average bet. wink. Don't say nuthin', OK. wink!" ? I have!)
No, I've never had anyone say that, but I've had them do it with good frequency. ;)

Unfortunately, the days of this may be limited, with electronic tracking systems; I understand that Wynn is using RFID in his chips to measure precisely what each player puts into action.

I think we agree on both of those points....

Excellent! Mission accomplished! Now, if we've shared information with fellow FTers to raise their level of return on their investment when they visit LV, then we've made a positive contribution to FlyerTalk!

Good luck, aloha, and A hui hou!

...I understand that Wynn is using RFID in his chips to measure precisely what each player puts into action.

The first two times I played BJ at Wynn I left with winnings. Not once were my wagers entered into the system. When I left the second time, the pit boss went to remove me from the system and said "oh you got us again." I guess it works pretty well.

Unfortunately, the days of this may be limited, with electronic tracking systems; I understand that Wynn is using RFID in his chips to measure precisely what each player puts into action.

Not so sure about that. When I played there a few weeks ago...my average bet was somewhere around $30-40 each time I played. The first time I was rated at $50 and the next time at $65. I had VERY few bets each time that were at $50 or higher. The pit boss still has some discretion in your rating! ;)

Ooooh, but when that craps table starts hemorrhaging money.........:D

How do you administer anti-coagulant to a craps table?

Unfortunately, the days of this may be limited, with electronic tracking systems; I understand that Wynn is using RFID in his chips to measure precisely what each player puts into action.


I understand how RFID works but cannot see how it would work in tracking punters action.

How do you administer anti-coagulant to a craps table?

Add Hawaiians!

Seven out.

No No an anti-coagulant will make the bleeding more severe ie more haemoraging

No No an anti-coagulant will make the bleeding more severe ie more haemoraging

Oh, right, right right. Gotcha. My bad.

Mmmmmmm....."How to apply anti-coagulant to a craps table and encourage the hemorrhaging of money."

The holy grail of craps players.

Dr. backgammon_king prescribes finding a table with a bunch of Hawaiians. Hawaiians can throw dem bones!

Dr. backgammon_king prescribes finding a table with a bunch of Hawaiians. Hawaiians can throw dem bones!

Did they get good at throwing bones when they were cannibals?

Did they get good at throwing bones when they were cannibals?

Nah, not cannibals: Warriors!

"Trow da bones, brah; give him one crack in da coconut!" :D

Not so sure about that. When I played there a few weeks ago...my average bet was somewhere around $30-40 each time I played. The first time I was rated at $50 and the next time at $65. I had VERY few bets each time that were at $50 or higher. The pit boss still has some discretion in your rating! ;)
Interesting. I read that they were going to use RFID to identify which chips were yours, allowing the computer to exactly and automatically track your play. I wonder if they ran into problems or decided not to implement it.

Interesting. I read that they were going to use RFID to identify which chips were yours, allowing the computer to exactly and automatically track your play. I wonder if they ran into problems or decided not to implement it.

I still prefer the night pit bosses at Paris...a good conversation with a fellow Texan goes a LOOOOOOOONG way. I think he realizes that their comp system for table players isn't as good as other places so he does a good job taking care of those of us that play above above a green chip. I'll play between $50-100/hand and always seem to be rated at $100+...and I seem to do pretty well at Paris (unlike at Wynn where I just can't win :( )

Interesting. I read that they were going to use RFID to identify which chips were yours, allowing the computer to exactly and automatically track your play. I wonder if they ran into problems or decided not to implement it.

They only use RFID in the high denomination chips. And, while they do track these chips in play at the table, it's more of a security measure - checking for counterfeits and tracking who has the chips.

They only use RFID in the high denomination chips. And, while they do track these chips in play at the table, it's more of a security measure - checking for counterfeits and tracking who has the chips.
Ah, I see. I recall reading that they were going to use it for player tracking.

I came across this (old) article that claims the Hard Rock is/was planning to use if for player tracking:

Take the Hard Rock Hotel. In addition to monitoring wagers, the casino
plans to use its new RFID system to "rate players"--monitor gamblers to
reward them with free rooms, meals and other perks based on how much and
how often they wager. As the technology advances, RFID could also help
track how well they play. The casinos generally reserve the most enticing
rewards for their most "valuable" players--those that bet and lose the
most--to keep them coming back.

At the moment, these incentive programs are somewhat limited, because the
process of rating players is so labor-intensive. Casinos employ special
staff to observe the tables and take note (by hand) of how much players bet
and how well they play--typically focusing on high-stakes players. In
addition, such ratings are often inaccurate. As a result, casinos overshoot
the perks they lavish on players by 20 to 30 percent.

RFID could change that by giving casinos a more accurate and efficient
tool to rate players and by allowing them to enlist more table-game players
to participate in incentive or "comp" programs. Such programs are roughly
the equivalent of an airline's frequent flyer program or a grocery chain's
loyalty card, encouraging repeat business.

http://osdir.com/ml/encryption.general/2005-02/msg00123.html

They only use RFID in the high denomination chips. And, while they do track these chips in play at the table, it's more of a security measure - checking for counterfeits and tracking who has the chips.

Short of implanting a chip in a player it would be difficult to track who has the chips. Certainly they could say where on the floor the chip or chips are. They could check how many chips have left the premises. Also in this type of RFID the range is a problem so when you see liitle radar stations springing up you know its on.

Now a passable scheme would be if the players card had a RFID and when $1000 chips are purchased the card and chip pile could be read together but then as chips are lost and won the person holding the chip would change certainly more so for lower level chips. Also a player would have to have their card on them at all times while playing.

It would be hardly be workable for $5 and $25 chips. They profess that it would increase number of rated players but this does not sound feasible.

I will quietly mull over possibilities as this is off the top of my head.

Wynn uses RFID for checks (chips) $25 and over, you can tell by the little dot above the dollar amount. When you cash out, the cashier places all your checks on a black glass segment of the counter to be scanned. The main reason for RFID is not to track players (although this could be done) but to deter internal theft. The checks are scanned when they leave the cashier's cage and the table they are issued to is recorded. Cash out big enough and they will ask what table you were at. Then they will match your story to that of the check (to the computer record of which table the check was issued to).

Short of implanting a chip in a player it would be difficult to track who has the chips.

My understanding is that when large denomination chips (like $1000 or $5000 chips) are issued, one can link the ID for each chip to the person (say, through their players card) who was issued the chips. Say, for example, someone takes out a marker for a large amount. If someone else were to cash in one of those chips, then the casino may suspect the person was giving out interest free loans to friends or some other monkey business.

I must confess that I haven't played very much at the Wynn in the last year or two, so I don't have any real world experience with what they're doing.

Re: the Hard Rock - I play quite a bit there, and am almost certain they aren't using RFID on the main floor for their chips. Of course, the highest denomination chip I play with is a black chip, so I may be missing something. Their high roller pit, the Peacock Lounge, may make use of the RFID chips. The thing about the Hard Rock is that they issue new chips fairly often, and they tend to become collector's items. I don't know how often they issue collectible chips above $25, but I would think that they wouldn't want to invest too much in the technology if the chips are just going to sit behind a display case.

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I'll be taking my wife and two daughters (4 & 5) to Las Vegas for a weekend in February or March to see O.

I have top status and many points with Hilton, PC, Hilton, and Hyatt and it would be nice to use them. Arrive on a Friday morning and leave on a Sunday afternoon.

What would be the best hotel between these for a weekend stay?

A hotel with a pool for the kids would be great. We will have a car so we don't have to stay right on the strip but it would be nice too.

Thanks & Happy Holidays!

Planet Hollywood (SPG) on the strip would be my choice.

Since the kids are so young, you may want to consider something like Excaliber. I would think that 4 & 5 year olds might enjoy it. (Although the place is rather worn)...
Whichever hotel you choose, please do some research first. Finding one with a pool open at that time of year will be difficult.
Also...unless your kids are very mature for their age, "O" might be a bit much from a comprehension standpoint. I think that an 8-10 year old might enjoy the show...but 4 seems rather young.
In any case, have a good time.

A suite property would give you more space (the kids could sleep in the 'living room' while Mom and Dad occupy the bedroom, and they'd have a separate TV). Since you have HH points, if one of the Embassy Suites properties on Paradise Road (near the strip) has availability, you might consider ES. Here, you'd also have the advantage of free cooked-to-order breakfast (plus, sometimes they run Sponge Bob promotions). :)

Also Hyatt Place - a nice big 42" plasma TV for those morning cartoons :)

You didn't specify Marriott, but if you do have Rewards points, another possibility would be one of the Residence Inn properties near (but not on) the Strip - an advantage here is breakfast, plus a fridge and microwave in case the kids want popcorn or cold drinks.

Also...unless your kids are very mature for their age, "O" might be a bit much from a comprehension standpoint. I think that an 8-10 year old might enjoy the show...but 4 seems rather young.

Actually, "Children under the age of five are not permitted into the "O" Theatre."
http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/CirqueDuSoleil/en/showstickets/o/O-tickets.htm

Time for plan B.

Thanks everyone.... On the "O" age limit....

Now what were you thinking :) Plunking down $300 for the best seats. The kids will have a sitter at the hotel. Time for my wife and I to have an enjoyable evening out.

I just saw the thread on the Hyatt going in. If its really on the strip I may have to increase my frequency in LV now that I'm living in gloomy Portland. Great city but those winters can get to me.

Sounds like I'll look into the HP & Planet Hollywood based on my points/status unless someone has some advise for very good treatment at a top quality hotel for cheap or for PC/Hyatt/Hilton/SPG points.

Las Vegas is the one place I totally ignore hotel loyalty. I've never stayed at any of the big chains there, and I'm a member of all of them.

thanks for the feedback. Which of the others would be the best for a family of 4 (kids 4&5) with a heated pool and rates in the $200 per night?

My wife doesn't like spending money on weekend trips :eek:


Las Vegas is the one place I totally ignore hotel loyalty. I've never stayed at any of the big chains there, and I'm a member of all of them.

Las Vegas is the one place I totally ignore hotel loyalty. I've never stayed at any of the big chains there, and I'm a member of all of them.

^^^^ Most excellent advice. Too many good properties in good locations to even consider most of the loyalty programs, with perhaps, Planet Ho (SPG) being the exception.

edit to add:

You might want to check out the Planet Ho Master Thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=696338) in the Starwood Forum.

I'm going to a huge trade show in Vegas in September (MinExpo).

The last time I attended this show I stayed at the Monte Carlo and planned on walking across the street to catch the monorail to the convention center; only to find it was out of service. I ended up on the crowded bus every day. I don't want to drive to the convention center, and the Hilton is already showing no availability; any one have any recommendations for something close just in case the monorail is down again?

Next closest is the Renaissance Las Vegas. Just across the street are the Courtyard and the Residence Inn. There is a Marriott Suites about 3 blocks away. That's about it for quality lodging at or near the Convention Center.

Wynn has a shuttle to the back end of its property (which is across the street from the Convention Center)

Is proximity to the LV convention center the only criteria for your hotel choice?

There's also an Embassy Suites about three blocks south of the Renaissance, on the same main road (Paradise). A link to a Google Map is below:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=3600+Paradise+Road+las+Vegas,+NV&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.646818,59.414063&ie=UTF8&ll=36.125414,-115.153949&spn=0.007869,0.014505&t=h&z=16&om=1

If you want to be on the Strip, Bally's is a decent choice - pretty convenient to the monorail (which usually runs...) and fairly nice (and big) rooms.

Hi. Visiting LV from UK Feb 08 to celebrate my wife's 40th birthday. At present we have a Bungalow King Suite at the MGM booked, directly from their website at a cost of $115 a night which seemed a bargain. Anyone got any opinions on these rooms? What are they like? Anyone know of any better rooms with similar good deals (I don't mind paying a bit more if the deals worth it). Thanks!

Hi. Visiting LV from UK Feb 08 to celebrate my wife's 40th birthday. At present we have a Bungalow King Suite at the MGM booked, directly from their website at a cost of $115 a night which seemed a bargain. Anyone got any opinions on these rooms? What are they like? Anyone know of any better rooms with similar good deals (I don't mind paying a bit more if the deals worth it). Thanks!
Bungalow suites are fine, but aside from the size, there's nothing special about the room. Suites at this level (including Spa suites, which are basically the same, except with a Jacuzzi) have been discussed a bit on a few different threads here, so you might want to run a search. The pictures of the suites on MGM's Web site are pretty accurate - what you see is what you get.

For a special occasion, you may might want to look elsewhere (read this thread for ideas). Other places are going to cost you more, but will be more "special" - even in a regular room at some hotels.

Best hotel -- Wynn
Best non-suite room -- Wynn Resort (or Panoramic)
Best suite amenities/service in a non-suite room -- Wynn Tower Suites

Anyone suggest which hotel for my stay in May?

Would stay at TheHotel or Mandalay for the pool but there is a computer geek convention on there (25000 people) so rates are high-ish and I am imagining the pool might not be as good.

So looking for a hotel with a decent pool (sun and decent atmosphere for 20-30 year olds) on the strip, (don't like the Hard Rock and want to be close to clubs at night without the need for taxis).

Currently have reservations at Wynn, Bellagio and MGM just as insurance and leaning towards the MGM as the Wynn might be too stuffy and the Bellagio too couplesy, plus might have a night in the skylofts.

Are there other hotels which might suit us (2 guys 25-30) better? Any new pool developments for this year?

Thanks

Anyone suggest which hotel for my stay in May?

Would stay at TheHotel or Mandalay for the pool but there is a computer geek convention on there (25000 people) so rates are high-ish and I am imagining the pool might not be as good.

So looking for a hotel with a decent pool (sun and decent atmosphere for 20-30 year olds) on the strip, (don't like the Hard Rock and want to be close to clubs at night without the need for taxis).

Currently have reservations at Wynn, Bellagio and MGM just as insurance and leaning towards the MGM as the Wynn might be too stuffy and the Bellagio too couplesy, plus might have a night in the skylofts.

Are there other hotels which might suit us (2 guys 25-30) better? Any new pool developments for this year?

Thanks

Planet Hollywood's demographics have probably changed enough to suit you. They have two pools that are pretty reasonable.

TI also seems to be a pretty good singles hangout around the pool.

I'm in my 20's and I stay at the Four Seasons or the Wynn. Wynn has the better location. SkyLOFTS are great but, can be $1-2K/night on a weekend. In terms of a pool I really like Bare Pool at the Mirage (exclusive, no kids, great service and nice scenery). I've heard good things about TAO Beach but it is more crowded. Expect high minimums if your a bunch of guys and want a cabanna. I don't recall what admission is of you don't have a cabanna.

Keep checking rates for the 2 MB properties, as your date approaches, they will most likely drop (despite the large convention).

As far as your other 3 choices go, if money is not an issue, I would go with Wynn. It is luxurious, not stuffy, and will definitely have younger people (though not as many as MB). I think Bellagio is too crowded with tourists (not hotel guests, gawking tourists) while Wynn is more serene and exclusive.


Anyone suggest which hotel for my stay in May?

Would stay at TheHotel or Mandalay for the pool but there is a computer geek convention on there (25000 people) so rates are high-ish and I am imagining the pool might not be as good.

So looking for a hotel with a decent pool (sun and decent atmosphere for 20-30 year olds) on the strip, (don't like the Hard Rock and want to be close to clubs at night without the need for taxis).

Currently have reservations at Wynn, Bellagio and MGM just as insurance and leaning towards the MGM as the Wynn might be too stuffy and the Bellagio too couplesy, plus might have a night in the skylofts.

Are there other hotels which might suit us (2 guys 25-30) better? Any new pool developments for this year?

Thanks

Whats the upgrade fee for the tower suites.

Keep checking rates for the 2 MB properties, as your date approaches, they will most likely drop (despite the large convention).



Exactly that has happened. Now booked at TheHotel through Amex FHR for all 4 nights. Although the skylofts are now at a very tempting rate even for the Friday and Saturday night. Sunday is only $510.

Does anyone have any comments on the 1500XB Suites at Mandalay Bay (https://reservations.mgmmirage.com/roomInfo.aspx?pid=mbh&code=1756&show=floorplan)?

I just booked for 3 weeknights in July for $350/night, which seemed pretty good considering the size of the suite and the fact that it would be split between two couples. (Of course, it is low season).

$350 was the normal website price. I tried calling VIP Services to see if they had a better casino rate (I'm not a big player by any means, but we did get two nights at THEhotel comped upon checkout last year based on our play), but was told that upfront casino host reservations could not guarantee the suite type, which wouldn't work for us since we wanted to be sure to get the two-bedroom suite. (Although I'm sure if I were a whale rather than a guppy they would have been able to guarantee the suite type!!!). Probably something will be knocked off the rate again this year when I check out based on our play, but it would have been nice to have some sort of up front incentive.

Just stayed at the Mandalay Bay and loved it. Had a strip view room on the 20th floor, though I'd booked a cheaper room without a view. Could see all the way to the Stratosphere. $399 for Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

Everybody was really decent. Had spa passes and everything was clean and new. The pool is top notch - the best in Vegas I think. I've now stayed at Circus Circus (in my younger, poorer years), Luxor, Caesar's, Flamingo, and New York, New York. Mandalay Bay was by far the best of those. I even like the coconutty smell. I may do TheHotel next time - walked in the entryway and really liked the vibe.

I will also try the Venetian, Wynn and Bellagio. I like those hotels, but the clientele seems a bit older and more stuffy. It's hard to find a balance between them and the hordes of screaming bachelorette parties that dominate Saturday night in Vegas.

If you like golf, I definitely recommend eating lunch at the Country Club at the Wynn. Great view of the $500 per rounders (surprisingly varied skills on display). Beautiful course.


Also saw the Signature rooms - they're really nice with a real kitchen and everything but a 15 minute (no lie) walk from the front of the MGM Grand.

I will also try the Venetian, Wynn and Bellagio. I like those hotels, but the clientele seems a bit older and more stuffy.


Hey! :eek:

I think I just got called stuffy!! :p

Hey! :eek:

I think I just got called stuffy!! :p

Go with it hlburi - embrace your Inner Stuffy Person!

Being 24...making a decent 5 figure income (and no trust fund to fall back on) I've never felt the Wynn was stuffy in the 3 times I've stayed and played there. Plus...the eye candy is pretty good if you get a BJ table near Tryst! :)

Being 24...making a decent 5 figure income (and no trust fund to fall back on) I've never felt the Wynn was stuffy in the 3 times I've stayed and played there. Plus...the eye candy is pretty good if you get a BJ table near Tryst! :)

I agree,

You'd be hard pressed to find a stuffy casino property in the United States.

BTW, mctrees02 --- I don't think I've recently seen reference to a "decent 5 figure income" --

Now, I know that $10,000 is not so decent --- so, what is decent? $99,000 ? :p:p:p

......BTW, mctrees02 --- I don't think I've recently seen reference to a "decent 5 figure income" --.......

Darn: you beat me to it, bk!

"5 figure income" LOL!

Reminds me of Austin Powers when Dr. Evil time travels into the present from 1967 and threatens to hold the entire earth hostage for a ransom of "ONE MILLION DOLLARS!"

(Please: no disrespect, mctrees02. Honest. Seriously. It's just that the term is "Six figure income"..........and we have a weird sense of humor.

See you in Vegas in 10 days!

I want to stay for five nights in December. Which hotel would you guys recommend me?


Luxor Hotel and Casino
Monte Carlo Resort & Casino
TI - Treasure Island Hotel and Casino
New York New York Hotel & Casino
Doubletree Club Las Vegas Airport (Hilton Diamond Member)
MGM Grand Hotel and Casino
Hilton Grand Vacations Club on the Las Vegas Strip (Hilton Diamond Member)
Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Hilton Grand Vacations Club at the Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Paris Las Vegas
The Westin Casuarina Las Vegas Hotel, Casino & Spa (Starwood Gold member)
Caesars Palace
Bellagio


I want to have some luxury/a unique experience AND get most out of my money (that would speak for the Hilton's).

Any advice appreciated ^

I want to stay for five nights in December. Which hotel would you guys recommend me?

You mention a "unique" experience --- well.... you can stay in an off-strip Hilton'ish non-casino property anywhere.

My vote, stay on the strip. Now, if you advise your daily room budget --- you'll be able to easily narrow down your choices.

IMO, forget about the miles and points when in The Vegas; though, if you must --- Planet Ho (SPG) is probably your best bet (with regard to point affiliated hotels).

You mention a "unique" experience --- well.... you can stay in an off-strip Hilton'ish non-casino property anywhere.

My vote, stay on the strip. Now, if you advise your daily room budget --- you'll be able to easily narrow down your choices.

IMO, forget about the miles and points when in The Vegas; though, if you must --- Planet Ho (SPG) is probably your best bet (with regard to point affiliated hotels).

The budget does not matter so much. I can basically chose from any hotel from my above list. However, the first one is the cheapest, etc.

Regarding the Planet Hollywood: I stayed there a few weeks ago and I was very much disapointed. I did not get anything but a so-called resort room for my gold status :td: Location, on the other hand, was perfect ^

So, with this additional information, which hotel from my list would you recomand me?

I want to stay for five nights in December. Which hotel would you guys recommend me?


Luxor Hotel and Casino
Monte Carlo Resort & Casino
TI - Treasure Island Hotel and Casino
New York New York Hotel & Casino
Doubletree Club Las Vegas Airport (Hilton Diamond Member)
MGM Grand Hotel and Casino
Hilton Grand Vacations Club on the Las Vegas Strip (Hilton Diamond Member)
Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Hilton Grand Vacations Club at the Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Paris Las Vegas
The Westin Casuarina Las Vegas Hotel, Casino & Spa (Starwood Gold member)
Caesars Palace
Bellagio


I want to have some luxury/a unique experience AND get most out of my money (that would speak for the Hilton's).

Any advice appreciated ^

PS: The The Signature at MGM Grand would also be within my budget.

So, with this additional information, which hotel from my list would you recommend for me?

Per your list, and for regular rooms (not suites) :

Caesars Palace - Deluxe Augustus Tower or Premium Palace Tower Room
Bellagio - Tower Deluxe King

But, quite frankly, you should probably add Wynn and Venetian to your list. ;)

I want to stay for five nights in December. Which hotel would you guys recommend me?


Luxor Hotel and Casino
Monte Carlo Resort & Casino
TI - Treasure Island Hotel and Casino
New York New York Hotel & Casino
Doubletree Club Las Vegas Airport (Hilton Diamond Member)
MGM Grand Hotel and Casino
Hilton Grand Vacations Club on the Las Vegas Strip (Hilton Diamond Member)
Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Hilton Grand Vacations Club at the Las Vegas Hilton (Hilton Diamond Member)
Paris Las Vegas
The Westin Casuarina Las Vegas Hotel, Casino & Spa (Starwood Gold member)
Caesars Palace
Bellagio


I want to have some luxury/a unique experience AND get most out of my money (that would speak for the Hilton's).

Any advice appreciated ^

What about Palazzo? Otherwise, the only true luxury experience on your list is Bellagio. And I agree with BK, Wynn should definitely be on your short list.

The budget does not matter so much. I can basically chose from any hotel from my above list. However, the first one is the cheapest, etc.

Regarding the Planet Hollywood: I stayed there a few weeks ago and I was very much disapointed. I did not get anything but a so-called resort room for my gold status :td: Location, on the other hand, was perfect ^

So, with this additional information, which hotel from my list would you recomand me?

Your hotel list is a wide range. Let me add to the list :). Have you considered Four Seasons? December rates, if you're going on a weekday or even some of the weekends are quite reasonable and matches that of the properties toward the bottom of your list. I stayed there four days this past December just to relax.

FS from $185 (3rd nt free) in Aug/Sept, $195 in Dec
seem to recall Virtuoso discount as well

FS from $185 (3rd nt free) in Aug/Sept, $195 in Dec
seem to recall Virtuoso discount as well

I called my Virtuoso agent for my FS stay last December and there was no difference between their rates and FS online rates. Or maybe the agent was pulling a fast one.

Hopefully a good place for this question ...

Mum is going to be in Vegas for three nights in October, starting on a Saturday night. She is primarily going to Vegas to trip to the Grand Canyon, but is also taking the opportunity to see Circ du Soleil (sp?). Vegas is about her final destination on a three-month, once-in-a-lifetime, round-the-world trip. Because of the show she wants to stay at the Bellagio, but at US$299 per night for an entry level room at a property that doesn't seem to have the best reviews lately here on FT, and because she's pretty much a novice traveller, I wonder that she could get better value for money somewhere else. i.e. Either pay less than $299 for the same quality, or pay $299 for something better.

We're in New Zealand. She's staying at a few Holiday Inns elsewhere on her travels so maybe she should sign-up to Priority Club and pick an IC branded hotel, otherwise any NZ AirPoints affiliated brand would help. If she doesn't stay at the Bellagio she'll need to be able to walk there to the show one night. Eating easily and not too expensively wherever she does stay would be great. I don't think gambling will be too much of an attraction for her (but who knows? :p) Comfort, safety, and customer service that might go a little further than normal for a novice, non-high roller traveller, could also be high on the list.

So, with that background, any alternatives to the Bellagio I could point her at?

Hopefully a good place for this question ...

Mum is going to be in Vegas for three nights in October, starting on a Saturday night. She is primarily going to Vegas to trip to the Grand Canyon, but is also taking the opportunity to see Circ du Soleil (sp?). Vegas is about her final destination on a three-month, once-in-a-lifetime, round-the-world trip. Because of the show she wants to stay at the Bellagio, but at US$299 per night for an entry level room at a property that doesn't seem to have the best reviews lately here on FT, and because she's pretty much a novice traveller, I wonder that she could get better value for money somewhere else. i.e. Either pay less than $299 for the same quality, or pay $299 for something better.

We're in New Zealand. She's staying at a few Holiday Inns elsewhere on her travels so maybe she should sign-up to Priority Club and pick an IC branded hotel, otherwise any NZ AirPoints affiliated brand would help. If she doesn't stay at the Bellagio she'll need to be able to walk there to the show one night. Eating easily and not too expensively wherever she does stay would be great. I don't think gambling will be too much of an attraction for her (but who knows? :p) Comfort, safety, and customer service that might go a little further than normal for a novice, non-high roller traveller, could also be high on the list.

So, with that background, any alternatives to the Bellagio I could point her at?

There are no IC partner hotels near Bellagio. Hotels within walking distance near Bellagio which may have better rates include Monte Carlo to the south, Planet Hollywood, Paris and Bally's across Las Vegas Blvd to the east. You can also try Caesars Palace north of Bellagio. As for customer service for a non-high roller, have her sign up for a players card at any or all properties and just have fun, it might just be very worthwhile :).

Hopefully a good place for this question ...

Mum is going to be in Vegas for three nights in October, starting on a Saturday night. She is primarily going to Vegas to trip to the Grand Canyon, but is also taking the opportunity to see Circ du Soleil (sp?). Vegas is about her final destination on a three-month, once-in-a-lifetime, round-the-world trip. Because of the show she wants to stay at the Bellagio, but at US$299 per night for an entry level room at a property that doesn't seem to have the best reviews lately here on FT, and because she's pretty much a novice traveller, I wonder that she could get better value for money somewhere else. i.e. Either pay less than $299 for the same quality, or pay $299 for something better.

We're in New Zealand. She's staying at a few Holiday Inns elsewhere on her travels so maybe she should sign-up to Priority Club and pick an IC branded hotel, otherwise any NZ AirPoints affiliated brand would help. If she doesn't stay at the Bellagio she'll need to be able to walk there to the show one night. Eating easily and not too expensively wherever she does stay would be great. I don't think gambling will be too much of an attraction for her (but who knows? :p) Comfort, safety, and customer service that might go a little further than normal for a novice, non-high roller traveller, could also be high on the list.

So, with that background, any alternatives to the Bellagio I could point her at?

No real attraction for gambling, close to Bellagio, inexpensive room and food, treated well for a novice...that's Bill's Gamblin' Hall you're looking for. It's a small property with about 200 rooms diagonally across the intersection from Bellagio. Easy walk up and over the escalators above the street.

http://www.billslasvegas.com