JetBlue TrueBlue - Neeleman finally slows E190 capacity growth
jetBlue has announced that it has slowed its E190 deliveries from 18 per year to 10 per year thru 2010; some of the deferred orders will be delivered 2011 thru 2014:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/061204/109769.html
As a B6 shareholder, this is very good news for me - and further evidence that B6 tried to grow far too fast. Controlled growth is always better than out-of-control, PeoplExpress-style growth.
JetBlueFA
Dec 4, 06, 4:40 pm
The company knew it was growing too fast, as was evident by last years loss. We already slowed 320 growth and we knew it was only a matter of time before the 190 deliveries where slowed as well. Many at the company are glad to see the reduction!
prhs1989
Dec 4, 06, 7:10 pm
The company knew it was growing too fast, as was evident by last years loss. We already slowed 320 growth and we knew it was only a matter of time before the 190 deliveries where slowed as well. Many at the company are glad to see the reduction!
In your opinion, do you think the fleet reduction had more to do with:
1) Last year's loss
2) Full Capacity at JFK
3) Combination of the both.
I think that it is good that they slowed down their growth. It is good to know that there are no egos to overcome in the upper management.
prhs1989
Dec 4, 06, 7:10 pm
The company knew it was growing too fast, as was evident by last years loss. We already slowed 320 growth and we knew it was only a matter of time before the 190 deliveries where slowed as well. Many at the company are glad to see the reduction!
In your opinion, do you think the fleet reduction had more to do with:
1) Last year's loss
2) Full Capacity at JFK
3) Combination of the both.
I think that it is good that they slowed down their growth. It is good to know that there are no egos to overcome in the upper management.
IMHO, it's a big mistake to let any other US airline get its hands on those E190s. JetBlue should sell A320s as needed to keep its monopoly on E190 service. The E190s will generate high yields and clean the clocks of carriers offering only RJs on thin routes.
JetBlue's advantage with the E190 vs. RJs depends critically on its control of the E190 production pipeline. Giving up that advantage was a serious mistake. Just my opinion.
JetBlueFA
Dec 5, 06, 4:43 pm
The only other carrier currently operating the 190s is Air Canada. We haven't given up that many production slots so not to many new airlines can get their hands on the plane.
I think it was a combination of the loss and the lack of space in JFK that lead to the reduction in the 190 deliveries. BOS will continue to grow as we have plenty of space here to accomidate expansion, especially with Continential, Midwest, and Cape Air moving out in the near future.
BOS will continue to grow as we have plenty of space here to accomidate expansion, especially with Continential, Midwest, and Cape Air moving out in the near future.
What do you mean -- are Continental & Midwest changing terminals, or leaving BOS?
What do you mean -- are Continental & Midwest changing terminals, or leaving BOS?
Explain something to me, please? :confused:
subwaybill
Dec 5, 06, 10:31 pm
What do you mean -- are Continental & Midwest changing terminals, or leaving BOS?
I went back to read the Press Release from 5/3/2005 when JetBlue first moved to Terminal C at Logan. JetBlue gets one new gate in Terminal C, Pier C every 6 months through 2009, eventually using 11 gates. I think there are only 11 gates there, so Continental and Midwest eventually need to move.
JetBlueFA
Dec 6, 06, 7:58 am
Correct Continential, Midwest, and Cape Air will be eventually forced to move to the other Pier or another terminal. Cape Air may end up staying if the code share deal they want goes through. We will eventually be the sole operator out of that Pier.
dieuwer2
Dec 6, 06, 11:34 am
Correct Continential, Midwest, and Cape Air will be eventually forced to move to the other Pier or another terminal. Cape Air may end up staying if the code share deal they want goes through. We will eventually be the sole operator out of that Pier.
What about terminal branding? Is there any interest in naming terminals? If terminal C eventually is occupied by B6 only, you could rename it "Terminal Blue" or something. :)
marlborobell
Dec 6, 06, 3:26 pm
What about terminal branding? Is there any interest in naming terminals? If terminal C eventually is occupied by B6 only, you could rename it "Terminal Blue" or something. :)
That's unlikely. Terminal C has three piers -- one for B6, one for UA, and a small one for Airtran. (That's a slight oversimplification, but close enough.) I don't see UA or Airtran letting B6 do that.
(Airtran's pier was formerly called Terminal D, but it was always really part of C. Now it's official.)
The only thing is that unless I misremember, the CO part of terminal C is behind a different security check from the B6 part, and there's no connection behind security -- are Massport fixing that like they did for AA/AE? (It seems like it would be harder given that there's a food court in the way, but maybe a connection could be made at a lower level beneath the food court.)
JetBlueFA
Dec 6, 06, 6:07 pm
AirTran is suppose to be moving out of that hole that was called the D Terminal and up to the main ticketing level and start using gates on UA's pier. Terminal E is going to be renamed Terminal D here in the very near future as well.
There are gates that inbetween Terminal B and Terminal C along the walkway connecting the 2 but i don't think anybody uses them during the day as frequently there is a jetBlue spare or an American spare parked at the gates. Continential uses 1 gate across from gate 28, i can't remember the gate number as i never look. I'm not positive if Continential uses the other gates or not as I'm hardley there enough to look but they may. I really don't see a reason to as they rarely have more than 1 aircraft there except for the early morning departures.