MilesBuzz! - Inside Flyer Magazine

Howdy folks,

Need some help here.

I've read the Inside Flyer website - I love it. I'd like to buy a subscription for myself and a couple of other FF's that I know.

Here's question for the gurus:

1 - I fly mostly AA and stay at mostly Hiltons. Secondary (about 5% of my travel) is Delta and Marriot; given this - what 'points offer' should I take when buying the subscriptions?

Thanks in advance,

Pakse

Well, the current thought would be that you should take the SPG points, transfer them to the Qantas program, then redeem AA awards from within the Qantas program.

Howdy,

If I have say, 7500 Qantas points, and say 20000 AA points --> Any way I can combine them to get a 25,000 economy ticket AA award?

Thanks,

Pakse

No, but you can transfer 20K SPG points into 25K AA miles.

[This message has been edited by mktozd (edited 04-08-2002).]

Awesome - if I can redeem SPG points for AA points - I'm home free.

Thanks much, I must have missed this.

Pakse

Pakse - SPG has the following conversions with these airlines.
Keep in mind that if you transfer 20K you get a 5K bonus, so your 20K+5K=25K.
Double that on Qantas!

Airline Conversion Rate
Starpoints to Miles/Points)

Air Canada Aeroplan 1:1
Air FranceSM Frequence Plus 1:1
Air New Zealand Air Points 1:2
Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan 1:1
Alitalia MilleMiglia 1:1
All Nippon Airways ANA Mileage Club 1:1
America West Airlines FlightFund 1:1
American Airlines® AAdvantage 1:1
Asiana Airlines Bonus Club 1:1
British Airways Executive Club 1:1
Cathay Pacific® Asia Miles 1:1
Continental Airlines® OnePass 1:1
Delta Air Lines SkyMiles 1:1
El Al Israel Airlines Frequent Flyer Club No transfer option
Emirates and Sri Lankan Airlines Skywards 1:1
EVA Air Evergreen Club 1:1
Japan Airlines JAL Mileage Bank 2:1
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Flying Dutchman 2:1
LanChile LanPass 1:2
Lufthansa Miles & More No transfer option
Mexicana® Frecuenta 1:1
Northwest Airlines World Perks 1:1
Qantas Airways Frequent Flyer 1:2
Qualiflyer 1:1
Saudi Arabian Airlines Alfursan 1:1
Thai Airways International Royal Orchid Plus 1:1
United Airlines Mileage Plus 1:1
US Airways Dividend Miles 1:1
Virgin Atlantic Airways Flying Club 1:1

so 4 subscriptions equals 10,000 Quantas Miles, which equals 20,000 SPG which equals 25,000 AA?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by LemonThrower:
so 4 subscriptions equals 10,000 Quantas Miles, which equals 20,000 SPG which equals 25,000 AA?</font>

No.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/006701.html



[This message has been edited by cactuspete (edited 04-11-2002).]

Looks like someone has decided to profit from the Inside Flyer promo on Ebay.

Another 500K auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345610140

Just out of pure curiosity - do the airlines monitor sites like ebay for people who sell 'coupons' etc. on a regular basis ?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mvic:
Looks like someone has decided to profit from the Inside Flyer promo on Ebay.

Another 500K auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345610140

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If this is the case, the seller may be on much firmer legal ground.

While you're not allowed to sell your AA miles, I don't think there are any rules against Starwood-to-AAdvantage transfers.

The same seller also has a VIPOW for sale on eBay, so he's not worried about the AA cops.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=chaneytexas

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Pakse:
Awesome - if I can redeem SPG points for AA points - I'm home free.
Thanks much, I must have missed this.
Pakse</font>

HI Pakse-

Since you seem to be interested in domestic (US) coach awards, be aware that (According to the chart at:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/PartnerAwardTables)

20,000 Starpoints= 25,000 AAdvantage miles

20,000 Starpoints= 50,000 Qantas points. According to the chart above, an AA award through Qantas (for between 2001-5400 miles) is 30,000 points in Coach and 45,000 in Business

So, for 20,000 starpoints you can put the points into AAdvantage and fly a coach r/t, or you can fly in AA biz through Qantas and have 5,000 points left over!

Does this math check out?

Are we sure this 500,000 mile auction (just about to end) and another one he has up for 100,000 miles is from this promo. I thought for SPG to mileage transfers had to be done to your own account. Something on the SPG site that says the names on the accounts have to be the same.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DLSIZE:
Are we sure this 500,000 mile auction (just about to end) and another one he has up for 100,000 miles is from this promo. I thought for SPG to mileage transfers had to be done to your own account. Something on the SPG site that says the names on the accounts have to be the same.</font>

I called and confirmed that both the name and address must be identical for a transfer.

Seeing this very generous offer from the Starwood – Inside flyer magazine I explored their website to learn as much as I could. I was surprised to learn that contrary to what I see people saying – the number of airmiles you can gain through this promotion are very limited.
From http://www.starwood.com/preferredguest/starpoints/transfer_ff_checkRoc.html
“Listed below are the frequent flyer programs to which Starwood Preferred Guests can transfer StarpointsSM-up to 99,999 Starpoints per program! (Please note that certain airlines set their own limits, and that the exchange rate varies by airline.) Plus, for every 20,000 Starpoints transferred, Starwood will automatically add another 5,000 Starpoints to the total-making a free flight that much closer.”1

Each airlines has its own limits to the number of miles you can transfer. To see each airline’s rules go to:
http://www.starwood.com/preferredguest/partners/all_partners.html

Quantas, for example, the most valuable option right now has this restriction:
http://www.starwood.com/preferredguest/partners/qantas_airways.html
Qantas Airways
Starwood Preferred Guest members can transfer up to 39,999 Starpoints into Qantas Frequent Flyer points at a 1-to-2 ratio. And for every 20,000 Starpoints transferred, you'll earn 5,000 bonus Starpoints, which will be automatically added to your transfer. There is no minimum point transfer requirement for Platinum members. Gold members have a minimum point transfer of 1,500 Starpoints and Preferred members have a minimum point transfer of 2,500.

So unless I am missing something here, my dreams of flying the BA concord cheap through Quantas will never come to pass. Please email me Nathan_weber30@hotmail.com if you have thouroughly checked this program out and I am indeed missing something ie: there is actually a way to buy a lot of cheap flights.

Hope this was helpful.

Why don't you post this same message in a few more places???

I have been informed the limit is per day, not overall. The website is misleading....