Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - CX889 JFK to HKG booked as two segments




B-HQC
Nov 16, 06, 2:48 am
What happens?

Supposedly I would have two boarding passes. Is there any problem with them combining the segments into one? I am doing this for mileage reasons.


christep
Nov 16, 06, 2:59 am
If it's booked as two segments and you have two ticket coupons then you should get two Boarding Passes and the miles for the two segments. But if your ticket is one coupon then you're only going to get the miles for the JFK-HKG direct distance and one boarding pass.

Guy Betsy
Nov 16, 06, 4:10 am
You can only have two segments in the same booking class if you have two tickets. If you have one ticket ie RTW ticket with the intention of originally stopping over in YVR, and you decided to go straight through, you have to therefore book it as 2 segments in "A" class. But CX's computer will merge the two segments together as one flight. Check in at NYC will uplift both coupons together and give you only one boarding pass.

If you have two seperate tickets, then you can do the above, OR when you are booked in two booking classes. ie NYC-YVR in "A" class, and YVR-HKG in "D" class.

I was in same situation 2 years ago, and check-in would not give me two boarding passes. Mind you, I was in different seats. So in theory, if you booked different seats in the same booking class, maybe, just maybe....


B-HQC
Nov 16, 06, 4:26 am
You can only have two segments in the same booking class if you have two tickets. If you have one ticket ie RTW ticket with the intention of originally stopping over in YVR, and you decided to go straight through, you have to therefore book it as 2 segments in "A" class. But CX's computer will merge the two segments together as one flight. Check in at NYC will uplift both coupons together and give you only one boarding pass.

That is exactly my intention, I am on a RTW. Given it's only 1000 mi I might as well forget about it, but I am amazed that JFK counter would give you 1 bp given there were two ticket coupons.

christep
Nov 16, 06, 4:37 am
Since you are on a flexible ticket I would make up some excuse about a meeting in YVR which will determine whether I will get the onward flight and only check me in that far. But you would then have to go out and do, effectively, and international transit and pick up the second BP at YVR, and I'm not sure if that is possible.

Dave Marsh
Nov 16, 06, 6:16 am
Actually if you are on a XONEX and ticketed as 2 seperate segments, you will have mileage based on 2 segments as you paid 2 sets of tax and associated fees. They should spit out 2 BPs for you.

B-HQC
Nov 16, 06, 7:22 am
Actually if you are on a XONEX and ticketed as 2 seperate segments, you will have mileage based on 2 segments as you paid 2 sets of tax and associated fees. They should spit out 2 BPs for you.

Exactly. But this is contrary to Mr. Moderator's experience. I wonder how the agent had the discretion to merge two segments on two coupons into one without the passenger's request/permission.

Dave Marsh
Nov 16, 06, 7:29 am
Exactly. But this is contrary to Mr. Moderator's experience. I wonder how the agent had the discretion to merge two segments on two coupons into one without the passenger's request/permission.


Ok for eg. YOu booked JFK-YVR on one day and then YVR-HKG on another. Then ticketed the booking. Then later find out you need to do the whole thing at once.

They wont; refund u the tax etc. and YOu are entitled 2 segments worth of miles, even if they give you 1 BP. Just email MPC after if they stuff aroudn at checkin.,

eutow
Nov 17, 06, 10:09 am
I had a situtation a year or two ago that was very similar to the one that Guy Betsy described: I was on an AONE ticket, and because of a change in plans, didn't need to stop over in YVR. At JFK, my bookings were merged into 1, and I was just given 1 BP. They couldn't give me a separate BP for each sector. I didn't contact MPC to see about getting the additional mileage credited.

Guy Betsy
Nov 18, 06, 3:18 am
The only way to do is to make 2 seperate bookings on 2 PNRs. And preferbly when you do not have checked luggage though this can be negotiated...

PNR 1:
JFK-YVR on say CX889 01DEC (prebook one seat)
YVR-HKG on CX839 7 days later.

PNR 2:
YVR-HKG on CX889 02DEC (prebook another seat different from above)

Once aboard, and after take off.. pretend to rummage through some notes and gasp.. my %#+@@ secretary made a mistake.. and you made were meant to fly onwards. It's ok.. you had just realised that you already hold another booking on SAME flight onwards to HKG that you made yourself..

You tell Purser to advise YVR ground staff to issue you with a new boarding pass from YVR to HKG as you will be going onwards to HKG and not the one 7 days later. And oh, can the Ground crew also make sure your bags does not get pulled at YVR but retagged to HKG.

It *may* work...

Otherwise CX might just reseat the passenger in your original seat at YVR and issue you as ONE BP from NYC . Then there really is nothing else you can do.

Don't say I taught you this... !

daniellam
Nov 18, 06, 5:29 pm
I don't think this will work as JFK-YVR and YVR-HKG (2 seperate segments on CX 889) are not within the minimum connecting time.

tfung
Nov 20, 06, 6:33 pm
I just flew an AGLOB34 last month with JFK-xYVR-HKG ticketed as 2 segments. JFK check-in spit out 2 boarding passes for me, but both coupons were uplifted by the agent. I was given both boarding passes stapled together as one boarding pass, and during boarding, both boarding passes were torn and I was given the 2 small pieces of it back...

ijgordon
Nov 20, 06, 7:04 pm
I just flew an AGLOB34 last month with JFK-xYVR-HKG ticketed as 2 segments. JFK check-in spit out 2 boarding passes for me, but both coupons were uplifted by the agent. I was given both boarding passes stapled together as one boarding pass, and during boarding, both boarding passes were torn and I was given the 2 small pieces of it back...
That's all fine and dandy, but did you get the extra miles?!? :)

tedhl
Apr 25, 09, 10:41 am
sorry to dig out an old thread...just want to see if people have any recent experience about this.

if I have a separate HKG-YVR-HKG and a YVR-JFK-YVR tickets, can I fly all the way HKG-YVR-JFK on the same plane, using HKG-YVR from first ticket and YVR-JFK from second ticket ? or would I then need to go through immigrations/customs at YVR because I'm more like a transit pax between 2 flights, and not a through pax ? or would I just be considered as another pax doing HKG-JFK ?

similarly, on the way back, is this possible ? JFK-YVR-HKG but on 2 tickets ? from what I read about, JFK-YVR-HKG seems possible, they might just combine it ? but what if it's different class ?

any thoughts ? thanks !!

HeathrowGuy
Apr 25, 09, 11:13 am
Bear in mind that if the through trip is on separate tickets, you could be SOL if CX cans the 1-stop service.

tedhl
Apr 25, 09, 11:19 am
yes, understand, thanks for the reminder. but I'm planning for something within the next few weeks, so hopefully they won't be changing / cutting their flights so soon again just after the long announcement last week...

Short hair Francis
Apr 28, 09, 12:10 am
I can confirm for the JFK-YVR-HKG, it's possible for different class. Actually my JFK-YVR was H class, mileage upgrade to U class. YVR-HKG was I class. This was back in December tho. I just show 2 tickets and ask them to tag the bags the whole way. I asked the purser once I boarded the JFK-YVR sector and this info was past along to the next sector purser. If not, you have 1 hr 30 mins to go through YVR, doable without check bags I presume. Very tight if so. Good Luck!

nomoreiphone
Apr 28, 09, 7:19 am
I want to know, whether there is an International Transit point in YVR and whether it is open during the hours of 888/889

I KNOW officially you are suppose to remain the holding pen (for 888 and for 889, it is optional for J and F pax), but there is really nothing stopping you going to the immigration (and if there is an international transit point).

It will be so much better to spend the 1.5 hours in the lounge than in the holding pen with minimal facilities.



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