borya
Nov 15, 06, 5:18 am
Somethink like lgb-dsm-bdl or somethink simular? using their smaler plane?
JetBlue TrueBlue - i wonder will jet blue ever have 1 stop flights to smaler markets?
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bakerm16899
Nov 15, 06, 7:47 am
The problem with any flights involving LGB is there is a cap on takeoffs from LGB each day. This number is currently 41 total takeoffs each day.
JetBlue currently utilizes the A320 on every flight that leaves LGB, and most of the destinations are either transcon, or high capacity routes OAK or LAS.
If they were to begin flying to a destination with a lower capacity, which would involve the E190, then they would be sacrificing one of their existing A320 takeoffs.
These takeoffs are at a premium, and the A320 offers the best chance for maximum revenue, with the finite number of takeoffs.
This also explains why the ORD-LGB route is strictly on A320s, but the JFK-ORD may involve E190s.
Hope this helps.
JetBlue currently utilizes the A320 on every flight that leaves LGB, and most of the destinations are either transcon, or high capacity routes OAK or LAS.
If they were to begin flying to a destination with a lower capacity, which would involve the E190, then they would be sacrificing one of their existing A320 takeoffs.
These takeoffs are at a premium, and the A320 offers the best chance for maximum revenue, with the finite number of takeoffs.
This also explains why the ORD-LGB route is strictly on A320s, but the JFK-ORD may involve E190s.
Hope this helps.
JetBlueFA
Nov 15, 06, 1:44 pm
I don't think you will see us in smaller markets too soon. I think that the company is still going after highly touristy destinations and those routes with high vacationing traffic. AUA, CUN, AUS (mainly because of Dell), Lesser extent ORD
CO FF
Nov 16, 06, 3:39 pm
Smaller than ROC & BTV? Not likely...
adambisi
Nov 16, 06, 4:10 pm
Smaller than ROC & BTV? Not likely...
DSM and BDL are bigger than BTV and another off the top of my head - PVM. I think DSM-JFK wouldn't be a bad idea. You will never see DSM-BDL from jet blue.
DSM and BDL are bigger than BTV and another off the top of my head - PVM. I think DSM-JFK wouldn't be a bad idea. You will never see DSM-BDL from jet blue.
GWU ESIA STUDENT
Nov 17, 06, 11:44 am
Somethink like lgb-dsm-bdl or somethink simular? using their smaler plane?
In the degregulated environment with RJs very few airlines operate routes like that anymore. The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is UA's IAD-PHX-TUS route with an A320 or A319.
In the degregulated environment with RJs very few airlines operate routes like that anymore. The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is UA's IAD-PHX-TUS route with an A320 or A319.
LoneStarMike
Jan 1, 07, 9:41 am
I don't think you will see us in smaller markets too soon. I think that the company is still going after highly touristy destinations and those routes with high vacationing traffic. AUA, CUN, AUS (mainly because of Dell), Lesser extent ORD
I think American Eagle is the only one currently offering AUS-RDU service (twice daily on Embraer RJ-135's with no first class)
Since B6 already flies RDU-BOS and AUS-BOS. I wonder if something like AUS-RDU-BOS would work? It would connect three high-tech cities, give AUS nonstop service to RDU and provide a second daily (one-stop) frequency in the AUS-BOS market.
It could be B6's East Coast version of AA's AUS-SJC "nerd bird" flights and with better service than AA's RJ's to RDU, it would make those flights seem like "turd-birds" in comparison.
Mike
I think American Eagle is the only one currently offering AUS-RDU service (twice daily on Embraer RJ-135's with no first class)
Since B6 already flies RDU-BOS and AUS-BOS. I wonder if something like AUS-RDU-BOS would work? It would connect three high-tech cities, give AUS nonstop service to RDU and provide a second daily (one-stop) frequency in the AUS-BOS market.
It could be B6's East Coast version of AA's AUS-SJC "nerd bird" flights and with better service than AA's RJ's to RDU, it would make those flights seem like "turd-birds" in comparison.
Mike
sbm12
Jan 4, 07, 10:31 am
The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is UA's IAD-PHX-TUS route
DL: ATL-ROC-SYR
DL: ATL-ROC-SYR
BearX220
Jan 4, 07, 11:40 am
Hub/spoke networks and flocks of RJs have pretty much killed mainline tag ops. In the old days there were all kinds of interesting mainline tags (TWA flew a 767 SEA-PDX-SEA until the late '90s, and flew BDL-PWM-BDL too), but today people are trained to expect nonstop shots right to hubs.
Larrude
Jan 4, 07, 11:45 am
Smaller than ROC & BTV? Not likely...
Big difference between the metro populations of BTV and ROC. Accodrding to Wikipedia, Burlington metro area population is approximately 203,000 while Rochester metro is a little over 1,000,000
ROC also draws passengers from the Finger Lakes area and for some destinations from Syracuse.
BTW, interesting that except for some flights to Canada, there are no international destinations served directly from any upstate NY airport.
Big difference between the metro populations of BTV and ROC. Accodrding to Wikipedia, Burlington metro area population is approximately 203,000 while Rochester metro is a little over 1,000,000
ROC also draws passengers from the Finger Lakes area and for some destinations from Syracuse.
BTW, interesting that except for some flights to Canada, there are no international destinations served directly from any upstate NY airport.
sulsk
Jan 4, 07, 12:57 pm
Big difference between the metro populations of BTV and ROC. Accodrding to Wikipedia, Burlington metro area population is approximately 203,000 while Rochester metro is a little over 1,000,000
ROC also draws passengers from the Finger Lakes area and for some destinations from Syracuse.
BTW, interesting that except for some flights to Canada, there are no international destinations served directly from any upstate NY airport.
Why is it suprising? There is not enough demand from upstate NY to have non-stops to international destinations. It's as simple as that. It's so easy to take a short flight to NYC, I don't see any need to have any ROC-SJU or SYR-SDQ flights ever.
ROC also draws passengers from the Finger Lakes area and for some destinations from Syracuse.
BTW, interesting that except for some flights to Canada, there are no international destinations served directly from any upstate NY airport.
Why is it suprising? There is not enough demand from upstate NY to have non-stops to international destinations. It's as simple as that. It's so easy to take a short flight to NYC, I don't see any need to have any ROC-SJU or SYR-SDQ flights ever.
Larrude
Jan 4, 07, 1:24 pm
Why is it suprising? There is not enough demand from upstate NY to have non-stops to international destinations. It's as simple as that. It's so easy to take a short flight to NYC, I don't see any need to have any ROC-SJU or SYR-SDQ flights ever.
Actually, I believe there would be a huge market - a lot of western NY actually drive to Toronto rather than the short flight to NYC. There are direct flights to London via Cleveland. Both Toronto and Cleveland are easily within driving distance of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. Considering that the entire upstate NY population is over 7 million people, there certainly would be enough demand.
As far as flying to NYC to connect, except for JetBlue which does not interline, there are lousy connections to international flights to Europe.
Actually, I believe there would be a huge market - a lot of western NY actually drive to Toronto rather than the short flight to NYC. There are direct flights to London via Cleveland. Both Toronto and Cleveland are easily within driving distance of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. Considering that the entire upstate NY population is over 7 million people, there certainly would be enough demand.
As far as flying to NYC to connect, except for JetBlue which does not interline, there are lousy connections to international flights to Europe.