OK, there is no such award... AFAIK ;-) Still, I'm wondering what the FT-ers would deem reasonable for such a redemption oppurtunity. Are you more willing to go for the award if bundled with a charity event appearance?
-sp
SanDiego1K
Sep 27, 03, 9:18 pm
Check out this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/007602.html) for some additional musing about the Hilton sisters.
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attorney28
Sep 27, 03, 9:48 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by solarprobe:
OK, there is no such award... AFAIK ;-) Still, I'm wondering what the FT-ers would deem reasonable for such a redemption oppurtunity. Are you more willing to go for the award if bundled with a charity event appearance?
-sp</font>
Depends on what's included with the dinner...
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andrzej
Sep 28, 03, 2:58 am
I believe Brian Urlacher of the Chicago Bears used his points just recently in Las Vegas for a date with Paris. I don't think he had enough points for a double dip http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
attorney28
Sep 28, 03, 3:20 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by andrzej:
I believe Brian Urlacher of the Chicago Bears used his points just recently in Las Vegas for a date with Paris. I don't think he had enough points for a double dip http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>
One of the funniest posts I have read on this board http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif.
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chexfan
Sep 28, 03, 6:50 pm
New HHonors Award: Dinner with Nicky and Paris
I already inquired with HHonors:
It's the 2nd letter (http://www.miketown.com/random/letters/)! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
hfly
Sep 28, 03, 9:21 pm
on second thought....
[This message has been edited by hfly (edited 09-28-2003).]
I guess it had to happen ( like Dilbert on airport security)
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TBS
Shareholder
Jun 9, 04, 5:51 pm
There appears to be a summer TV series on FOX featuring the Paris Hilton starting tonight. Is this another reality series set behind the scenes of a hotel?
flyinbob
Jun 9, 04, 6:15 pm
There appears to be a summer TV series on FOX featuring the Paris Hilton starting tonight. Is this another reality series set behind the scenes of a hotel?
Earth to Shareholder. Exactly how long were you stranded on that island?
pitsheel
Jun 9, 04, 6:24 pm
with 12k+ posts, you need to get out more!
UpgradeMe
Jun 9, 04, 6:53 pm
with 12k+ posts, you need to get out more!
Or at least turn on your tv more often.
flyinbob
Jun 9, 04, 7:06 pm
I assume Shareholder just forgot to put in the smileys!
PersonalCareChemist
Jun 10, 04, 8:35 am
I just received a new "Member Rewards" booklet. I did not see Paris Hilton listed under Hotel Rewards. I checked Entertainment Rewards and saw nothing there either. Must have been an obmission made at the printers.
sassamanlaw
Jun 10, 04, 10:08 am
I just received a new "Member Rewards" booklet. I did not see Paris Hilton listed under Hotel Rewards.
DARN! Must be a Diamond level only reward. :p
Counsellor
Jun 10, 04, 12:55 pm
Or at least turn on your tv more often.
or start reading your spam. :D
QF WP
Jun 11, 04, 8:10 pm
Earth to Shareholder. Exactly how long were you stranded on that island?
Well, I wouldn't call a visit to Australia (considering that he obviously made it back in one piece) being stranded...give the guy a break!
Was great to meet you Shareholder...
PHL
Jun 11, 04, 9:30 pm
There appears to be a summer TV series on FOX featuring the Paris Hilton starting tonight. Is this another reality series set behind the scenes of a hotel?
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you somehow missed and/or didn't hear about the *first* reality series she and best friend Nicole Richie(Lionel's daughter) were in. It was called "The Simple Life" and aired from December through February sometime. Huge ratings. Put two rich Beverly Hills girls to work in a one horse town in the middle of Arkansas and tape their every move. It was mildly entertaining, but the ratings were huge.
Now they return for "The Simple Life II" where they travel the country in an RV. Paris could barely drive the manual-transmission 1970's pickup truck in the last series. I can't wait to see this one....
On a separate note, I had the <mis>fortune of encountering her in the Waldorf=Astoria lobby late one night a few months ago (early one morning, actually). It was just me, her and some young punk hanging all over her (she wasn't stopping him). They had gotten in from a nice night of drinking and she somehow didn't have a key to her pre-arranged suite and was obnoxiously begging the desk clerk for it. She also didn't want to take him to the residence, because of course mom and dad wouldn't approve.
I was at the stand next to her getting my own key and turned to watch the spectacle she was creating (really for just me and the 2 people working the desk at this late hour). She glanced over my way and I burst out laughing at her. I don't think she liked it.....
MisterNice
Jun 12, 04, 9:04 am
.......Now they return for "The Simple Life II" where they travel the country in an RV. Paris could barely drive the manual-transmission 1970's pickup truck in the last series. I can't wait to see this one....
On a separate note, I had the <mis>fortune of encountering her in the Waldorf=Astoria lobby late one night a few months ago (early one morning, actually). It was just me, her and some young punk hanging all over her (she wasn't stopping him). They had gotten in from a nice night of drinking and she somehow didn't have a key to her pre-arranged suite and was obnoxiously begging the desk clerk for it. She also didn't want to take him to the residence, because of course mom and dad wouldn't approve.
I was at the stand next to her getting my own key and turned to watch the spectacle she was creating (really for just me and the 2 people working the desk at this late hour). She glanced over my way and I burst out laughing at her. I don't think she liked it.....
I was flipping the tv channels yesterday and up comes Nicole describing the upcoming RV series. I started re-flipping after about 20 seconds of her airy fluff description. I too saw Paris and Nicole (and 2 other very skinny bony-n-tipsy females) in Chicago Hilton last year. Clad in micro-dresses with fashionable mega-buck purses no larger than 2"x3". No nearby pawing guys maybe because two big burly security types were 8 ft in back of the animated loud female quartet. They stared every onlooker down including me.
MisterNice
Rut Dog
Apr 3, 05, 11:32 pm
I know this is off topic, but only slightly, as she comes up quite a bit in quips here.
I had no idea how much she has modified herself.
Nose Job Detail (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/paris_hilton_rhino.htm)
Overview of total makeover (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/005276.html)
Pyg
Apr 4, 05, 12:43 am
I know this is off topic, but only slightly, as she comes up quite a bit in quips here.
I had no idea how much she has modified herself.
Nose Job Detail (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/paris_hilton_rhino.htm)
Overview of total makeover (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/005276.html)
Wow... she actually used to be cute. Now she's just skanky.
Super Larry
May 25, 05, 10:36 am
That's hot!!
http://www.carlsjr.com/ontv
hreamer
May 25, 05, 10:41 am
I'm out!!!
elliscm
May 25, 05, 12:01 pm
I think it is disgusting. She said on some entertainment show that she doesn't eat them (obviously) but her dog is a big fan.
Anything to sell more burgers...
Baze
May 25, 05, 12:12 pm
And this has what to do with Hilton Honors and the hotel chain? This should be in Omni. And my opinion, I don't find the add sexy at all but I also don't find it offensive. And Carl's Jr. 6 dollar burgers suck.
Super Larry
May 25, 05, 12:58 pm
And this has what to do with Hilton Honors and the hotel chain? This should be in Omni. And my opinion, I don't find the add sexy at all but I also don't find it offensive. And Carl's Jr. 6 dollar burgers suck.
Since she's likely to own Hilton one day, it could be related to Hilton. However, you might be right, could also be OMNI..
SAT Lawyer
May 25, 05, 1:15 pm
And this has what to do with Hilton Honors and the hotel chain? This should be in Omni.
It is in OMNI. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435944&highlight=paris)
This thread should be closed here.
flyinbob
May 25, 05, 1:18 pm
The ad accomplished exactly what it was meant to accomplish. It got scads of free publicity for Carls without having to be aired even once. It is the best known ad of the day without Carls paying a dime to show it. Like the talentless artist who paints religious images in excrement to create publicity for himself, Carls has relied on the old adage "No one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the people." And yes, Carls has bland and crappy food, so I guess Ms. Hilton fits right in.
Don't move this thread to Omni. Burn it and bury it.
dream7
May 25, 05, 1:53 pm
Since she's likely to own Hilton one day, it could be related to Hilton.
Hilton Hotels Corp (HLT) is now a publicly traded company, so Paris is not likely to "own" Hilton. She may inherit many shares, but is unlikely to participate in the management of Hilton Hotels.
Baze
May 25, 05, 1:55 pm
Hilton Hotels Corp (HLT) is now a publicly traded company, so Paris is not likely to "own" Hilton. She may inherit many shares, but is unlikely to participate in the management of Hilton Hotels.
Especially since half the time when she makes the news she is not even staying at a Hilton but some other brand.
Yes, please close this.
da_guy
May 25, 05, 1:56 pm
What is so offensive about the ad? She's washing a car in a skimpy outfit and then eats a burger. I have seen this many times on a Sunday afternoon in my neighborhood...hot girl, short shorts, tight t-shirt washing her car, big deal.
As for her not eating Carl's...you think Rosie O'Donnel shops at Kmart? You think Celine Dion drives a Chrysler mini-van? You think Micahel Jordan wears only Hanes underwear?
Super Larry
May 25, 05, 2:40 pm
I think it is disgusting. She said on some entertainment show that she doesn't eat them (obviously) but her dog is a big fan.
Anything to sell more burgers...
We have the choice between a clown and Paris Hilton to sell burgers... ;)
Baze
May 25, 05, 3:33 pm
We have the choice between a clown and Paris Hilton to sell burgers... ;)
Let's see. If I had to choose a chain on that alone I have the following choices:
A Clown - McDonalds
A Clown head - Jack in the box
A Chihuahua - Taco bell
Pipi Longstocking - Wendy's
Paris Hilton - Carl's Jr.
I know where I would choose. How about you? But if I have to choose on taste, it is none of the above.
annerj
May 25, 05, 3:48 pm
What is so offensive about the ad? She's washing a car in a skimpy outfit and then eats a burger. I have seen this many times on a Sunday afternoon in my neighborhood...hot girl, short shorts, tight t-shirt washing her car, big deal.
Any homes for sell in your area? I'M MOVING IN!!!! :p
JDiver
May 25, 05, 3:55 pm
And this relates to Hilton / HHonors HOW?
I can only hope someone will haul this out with the trash... or move it to OMNI. :rolleyes:
Super Larry
May 25, 05, 4:30 pm
Since so many people are puritans, sensitive, vegetarians or just don't have a sense of humour ;) I kindly ask a moderator to close this thread, as it's so out of line and so outrageous and so, and so... :rolleyes:
Abidjan
May 25, 05, 4:59 pm
Good one! ^
CAL PHL FLYER
Sep 7, 06, 5:22 pm
@:-) With Paris Hilton`s Arrest in LosAngeles Today for Drunk Driving..I wonder if this will have any negative effect on the "Hilton Family" name..Would this Hotel name want to be associated with someone like Paris?..I wonder if it has a negative impact on business..I have actually at times booked Marriott because i didnt want my $$$ going to this family. :eek:
Uniter
Sep 7, 06, 5:58 pm
In a word ... no.
TrinaLC
Sep 7, 06, 6:27 pm
I opened this thread expecting to find a traveller who had a problem with the Paris, France Hilton, and was going to post some snarky comment about Paris Hilton! Guess not ... :D
NJUPINTHEAIR
Sep 7, 06, 6:36 pm
@:-) With Paris Hilton`s Arrest in LosAngeles Today for Drunk Driving..I wonder if this will have any negative effect on the "Hilton Family" name..Would this Hotel name want to be associated with someone like Paris?..I wonder if it has a negative impact on business..I have actually at times booked Marriott because i didnt want my $$$ going to this family. :eek:
And, I just read in one post that someone will not stay at a Marriott because -- essentially in their words -- they don't want their money going to support a cult. :rolleyes:
Of course, there are many hard working people in both of these chains that have no connections whatsoever to the families that derive benefit from these hotels and I think that a decision of that kind is quite hurtful to these people, regardless of what one thinks of the families involved.
FWIW, by the way and just my 2 cents, I neither support your stated decision re Hilton, nor the characterization related above about Marriott.
badjuju
Sep 7, 06, 6:58 pm
I thought the family no longer had any ties to the hotel.
bitburgr
Sep 7, 06, 7:04 pm
If her reputation and antics didn't already turn you off to the brand, I'm not sure why this incident would make any difference.
MIKESILV
Sep 7, 06, 7:05 pm
Its seems pretty unbelievable but this topic has actually turned upon the board before :rolleyes:
The reasoning put forward is just about as valid as not eating Bush Baked beans or boycotting the New Orleans Saints who has a running back named Bush just because one dislikes George Bush :D
mike
BamaVol
Sep 7, 06, 7:05 pm
As long as she's not partying in an adjacent room, why would I have a problem?
kingalien
Sep 7, 06, 7:51 pm
as long as she is not trying to sing, I don't care what she does. :p
BearX220
Sep 7, 06, 7:54 pm
If being associated with Paris' hard-core pornographic Internet video didn't hurt the Hilton brand, this sure won't.
francophile
Sep 7, 06, 8:16 pm
If anything, Paris's wild lifestyle should spice up the stodgy Hilton Hotels brand.
In fact, Hilton Hotels should think of ways to exploit Paris. For example, every Hilton hotel should have a suite named after Paris, The Paris Suite. These suites come with video recorder with its lens shooting right toward the bed.
NJUPINTHEAIR
Sep 7, 06, 8:26 pm
All these comments are great!!
This may turn into one of those great hillarious threads!
Keep 'em coming! ^
pinniped
Sep 7, 06, 8:30 pm
As long as she's not partying in an adjacent room, why would I have a problem?
The worst possible room to get (no status, on a Priceline rate) - room adjacent to Paris Hilton's party.
The best possible room to get (uber-Diamond, full rack rate) - room adjacent to Paris Hilton's party, with an unlocked connecting door. :p ^
holtju2
Sep 7, 06, 8:35 pm
If anything, Paris's wild lifestyle should spice up the stodgy Hilton Hotels brand.
In fact, Hilton Hotels should think of ways to exploit Paris. For example, every Hilton hotel should have a suite named after Paris, The Paris Suite. These suites come with video recorder with its lens shooting right toward the bed.
I believe too that it rather spices up the rather dull Hilton brand.
They could market “Paris” experience with margaritas and some IN-N-OUT burgers.
trader61
Sep 7, 06, 8:58 pm
The best possible room to get (uber-Diamond, full rack rate) - room adjacent to Paris Hilton's party, with an unlocked connecting door. :p ^
Hmmm, first time I ever heard full rack and Paris Hilton mentioned in a single sentence.
JAGMAP
Sep 7, 06, 9:01 pm
And as long as she doesn't turn my room into a zoo replete with animas (bear cubs, etc.) like she did in that one episode.
fromYXU
Sep 7, 06, 9:45 pm
Why is this even a topic of discussion?!?!
This type of disturbing anoying interest in people who have nothing but contempt for normal behavior only encourages them. The world is their playgroung and we get to watch them play.
Jeeves
Sep 8, 06, 12:47 am
Another thread that wasn't anything I thought it would be.
It's a public company with many, many shareholders. Most business travelers aren't going to link her antics with the people who run the local Hilton Garden Inn.
What scares me more is the fact that her popularity increases with every new notorious event. It's more of a reflection of how twisted our society has become.
KathyWdrf
Sep 8, 06, 2:10 am
To Paris Hilton's activities -- <YAWN>
To this thread -- <YAWN> <YAWN>
Karter
Sep 8, 06, 8:35 am
I would guess that if you asked someone five years ago, "Family Feud"-style, to name a hotel chain, the responses could be Holiday Inn, Marriott, Hilton, Best Western, etc. in any order. Now I would say with certainty that the number one answer would be Hilton. That's down to Paris more than anything else.
sm2
Sep 8, 06, 8:36 am
Hmmm, first time I ever heard full rack and Paris Hilton mentioned in a single sentence.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Fraser
Sep 8, 06, 11:49 am
To Paris Hilton's activities -- <YAWN>
To this thread -- <YAWN> <YAWN>
^ ^
PMMMColonel
Sep 8, 06, 11:54 am
Her grandfather is Chairman while not the CEO he does go to the office a few days a week.
I thought the family no longer had any ties to the hotel.
mikey1003
Sep 8, 06, 11:57 am
To Paris Hilton's activities -- <YAWN>
To this thread -- <YAWN> <YAWN>
LOL
I agree....As long as I dont have to sleep with her, I'll stay at Hilton
Cheap Elite
Sep 8, 06, 12:14 pm
LOL
I agree....As long as I dont have to sleep with her, I'll stay at Hilton
I just threw up in my mouth a lil bit....based on the thought of sleeping with Paris Hilton :( :eek: :(
crhptic
Sep 8, 06, 1:32 pm
I believe too that it rather spices up the rather dull Hilton brand.
They could market “Paris” experience with margaritas and some IN-N-OUT burgers.
I guess everyone else missed the superb double-entendre here :) ^ :D
Or maybe they're just too civilized to acknowledge it? :o
Cheap Elite
Sep 8, 06, 1:51 pm
I guess everyone else missed the superb double-entendre here :) ^ :D
Or maybe they're just too civilized to acknowledge it? :o
No, I got it.....I just chose to ignore it, just like I ignore Paris -I'm famous for no apparent reason - Hilton.
ILuvParis
Sep 8, 06, 11:57 pm
No, I got it.....I just chose to ignore it, just like I ignore Paris -I'm famous for no apparent reason - Hilton.
You've already ignored her twice on this thread alone! :D
pgppetch
Sep 9, 06, 12:03 am
If anything, Paris's wild lifestyle should spice up the stodgy Hilton Hotels brand.
In fact, Hilton Hotels should think of ways to exploit Paris. For example, every Hilton hotel should have a suite named after Paris, The Paris Suite. These suites come with video recorder with its lens shooting right toward the bed.
And mirrors on the ceiling over the bed and 3 speed vibrating bedframe, maybe toiletries featuring items scented with that cheap new Paris Hilton fragrance?
The Paris Hilton Suite could be a big hit with a certain segment of the market.
crhptic
Sep 9, 06, 11:18 am
And mirrors on the ceiling over the bed and 3 speed vibrating bedframe, maybe toiletries featuring items scented with that cheap new Paris Hilton fragrance?
The Paris Hilton Suite could be a big hit with a certain segment of the market.
It's too bad Hilton doesn't have a Days Inn-esque brand in their portfolio. I think that would be the perfect home for it.
diamondman2006
Sep 9, 06, 11:32 am
I opened this thread expecting to find a traveller who had a problem with the Paris, France Hilton, and was going to post some snarky comment about Paris Hilton! Guess not ... :D
Me too, Doh!! ;)
francophile
Sep 9, 06, 10:48 pm
It's too bad Hilton doesn't have a Days Inn-esque brand in their portfolio. I think that would be the perfect home for it.
I thought that Hampton Inns compete with Days Inn.
crhptic
Sep 10, 06, 12:04 am
I thought that Hampton Inns compete with Days Inn.
Hampton Inns, which is Hilton's lowest-end brand, is roughly on par with Wingate Inns, which is Cendant's highest-end brand. The lower-end Cendant brands, including Days Inn, Ramada, Knights Inn, Travelodge, Super 8, and Howard Johnson, have absolutely no analogue in the Hilton system.
Not to stray too far off-topic, but it seems amazing and somewhat redundant that the same franchisor has 6 different hotel brands, all of which provide the same low-grade lodging and have no distinct brand identity other than being cheap.
guy999
Sep 10, 06, 12:37 am
If her reputation and antics didn't already turn you off to the brand, I'm not sure why this incident would make any difference.
I think the adage all publicity is good publicity is what they're going for here although I don't think people put together the Hilton hotel chain and picking a hotel with Paris Hilton's antics
badjuju
Sep 13, 06, 2:02 pm
When I started travelling, I loved Hilton hotels - doubletrees, etc. But over the past few years, the media have done a good job of forcing that slag down our throats that the thought of me staying at that chain makes me want to gag.
Hopefully, this trauma ends soon :(
b1513
Sep 13, 06, 2:59 pm
@:-) With Paris Hilton`s Arrest in LosAngeles Today for Drunk Driving..I wonder if this will have any negative effect on the "Hilton Family" name..
Don't scare me. I'm staying at the Paris Hilton next month. Glad you're only talking about the *other* Paris Hilton.
Bobi
Jeeves
Sep 13, 06, 10:54 pm
I don't understand why this thread is drifting down to some unknown direction. It's just rambling along and eating up server space. It should be put to rest.
ILuvParis
Sep 14, 06, 8:12 am
When I started travelling, I loved Hilton hotels - doubletrees, etc. But over the past few years, the media have done a good job of forcing that slag down our throats that the thought of me staying at that chain makes me want to gag.
Hopefully, this trauma ends soon :(
Surely you exaggerate. I don't recall ever once giving a thought to Paris Hilton when booking a reservation or staying at a Hilton family hotel. Only, e.g., on a thread like this, when the term "Paris Hilton" is used, is there sometimes a bit of confusion about whether people are discussing the Hilton Paris or Paris Hilton. Perhaps this is part of the reason, a few years ago, that the company began putting "Hilton" in front of the city on the names of their hotels.
ocApple
Jun 7, 07, 6:31 pm
Surprise, surprise - Paris got out of jail http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19091578/
I've been staying at Hilton Hotels my entire life and just don't think i can do it anymore.
It really bothers me that part of each dollar I spend there adds to this useless celebutante's inheritance. Or helps her enabling mother ("I can't believe this! And after all the money we spent") buy new jewelery or a Bentley.
The girl drove drunk, was pulled over three times, signed papers acknowledging that she had a suspended license and still did it! And then she pulls this "medical" issue so she leaves jail and spends 40 days partying in her mansion? What kind of punishment is that?!!! :mad:
Does anyone else find the Hilton family so vile that they are tempted to stop staying at Hiltons?
erenner
Jun 7, 07, 7:29 pm
good - that way if you were going to stay in a hotel I will be in then I am more likely to get the upgrade :)
at only 5% ownership by the founding family I dont care much. I am more interested in my comfort than what some bimbo does.
E
MIKESILV
Jun 7, 07, 8:12 pm
There are some silly posts sometimes on these board and then there are some that just defy any characterization :rolleyes:
mike
rkt10
Jun 7, 07, 8:33 pm
I agree with the OP. It's a matter of principle. Even if it's a nickel, I don't want her to benefit.
R.
CommittedLurker
Jun 7, 07, 8:48 pm
I would stop staying at Hiltons if I had a better alternative. I don't see one, so I won't stop just yet.
Having said that, the family is a disgrace, in my opinion.
Sthurston
Jun 7, 07, 10:11 pm
This post gets me if we try to make decisions on every purchase based on ownership, contributions to a political party, corporate responsibility or based on a companies record be it environmental or social you will never buy anything!
BF263533
Jun 7, 07, 10:33 pm
I think that she should change her last name to "Motel 6."
ocApple
Jun 7, 07, 11:28 pm
I think that she should change her last name to "Motel 6."
That's the perfect solution! Good call BF263533!
ILuvParis
Jun 7, 07, 11:54 pm
Maybe you should boycott the LA County Sheriff. Isn't that who let her out?
Jeeves
Jun 8, 07, 12:01 am
Like others, I find this to be silly. Time for me to change the channel.
lucky9876coins
Jun 8, 07, 5:58 am
I think that she should change her last name to "Motel 6."
That's hot.:p
Shareholder
Jun 8, 07, 10:55 am
For almost two years now I have had no paid stays at Hiltons. I have used all but a few hundred of my remaining stash of HHonors points over that period, but not booked a single revenue room. I went from an HHonors Gold for much of two decades accumulating several hundred thousands points, down to silver and then to a basic blue. Then a few months ago an email notice arrived advising that if I had no activity in my account by the end of May, I would be dropped...which I now have been.
Not only have I been an HHonors member since the program started, but I was also an inaugural member of the great HILTON CLUB that was operated by the Hilton International group (out of London) and the VISTA CLUB...both benefit programs for regular guests at Hilton International properties around the world. I was treated very well on my travels through the 70s and early 80s while those programs existed, and for that reason always tried to book HILTONS around the world. Those programs got shut down and folded into HHonors, and I appreciated the free breakfasts and pretty good executive/club level upgrades. And at one time, before the rampant increase in award prices, pretty good value for award stays. (I still have a couple of those bonus points certs HHonors Golds used to get to use with redemptions over 100K.)
Sitting on my book shelf is a copy of the rather inspirational book, BE MY GUEST, by Conrad himself...the story of his creation of this great hotel group, the ups and downs, the decision after conquering the world's cities with drinkable running water to retreat to the USA and sell off the international properties to the aforementioned Hilton International. Like Bill Marriott, Conrad was building a major hospitality empire in a post WWII world where the USA was finally emerging onto the world scene from its earlier isolation. He was also a man of religious convictions that guided him in his business dealings.
So how Conrad Hilton must be turning in his grave to witness the spectacle that his son's family is presenting to the world, and rebranding a once respected name in the psyche of the planet. Now, the word HILTON is not a respective business brand, but a name of mochery of the very ethos of hard work and selflessness that the patriarch of the family believed in.
So with the acendancy of a certain tramp, and the irrresponsibility of her parents, scions of this great American corporate success story, I made my decision to abandon the HILTON brand. It won't mean much to their bottom line, which looks healthier than ever. But at least I can feel I'm not contributing to the decline of American values...
Shareholder
Jun 8, 07, 10:56 am
This post gets me if we try to make decisions on every purchase based on ownership, contributions to a political party, corporate responsibility or based on a companies record be it environmental or social you will never buy anything!
Maybe Al Sharpton should publish a list of "acceptable" products?
MIKESILV
Jun 8, 07, 11:53 am
Maybe Al Sharpton should publish a list of "acceptable" products?
What we might consider "acceptible" is less of the OMNI type moralizing of dubious import being rammed down our throats.:rolleyes:
Really who in their right mind cares about Paris Hilton or any Hilton family member for that matter?
Rationalization = morals:rolleyes:
mike
craz
Jun 8, 07, 2:33 pm
Paris was sentenced by the Judge to go back to Jail, and serve out her Sentence. It gets better instead of the 23 days reduced sentence, He ruled she has to serve the entire 45 days she was originally sentenced to
SkiAdcock
Jun 8, 07, 5:20 pm
I don't make my hotel stay decisions based on pseudo-celebs & their lives. YVMV.
Cheers.
SEAUAKID
Jun 8, 07, 5:51 pm
I encourage you to stop shopping at Wal-Mart, too. Now THAT family is disgusting! Makes Paris Hilton look like Betty Homemaker.
IAHtraveler
Jun 8, 07, 10:20 pm
As I sit here on the 2nd of four weekends in Hilton hotels this month, I wondered if there was a thread of how bad Paris was making this brand look. I love the Hilton brand of hotels but have a hard time lately staying here knowing she benefits from every night I spend here... but unfortunately they're the only respectable hotel in all of the towns I frequent.
Points Scrounger
Jun 8, 07, 10:25 pm
I don't make my hotel stay decisions based on pseudo-celebs & their lives. YVMV.
Cheers.
Agreed
NBSPGMEMBER
Jun 8, 07, 10:34 pm
Paris Hilton is no better or worse than many other celebrity, give the girl a break.
omegadeal
Jun 9, 07, 1:07 am
I really don't think its fair - the treatment she's being given. She should have been sentenced just like the rest of us. I demand she spend 5 days in the Hampton Dulles airport ;)
Lauriebugg
Jun 9, 07, 7:53 am
omegadeal - I've never stayed there, but I'm thinking since you posted that it could quite possibly make her scream and cry the same. ;)
I'm starting to feel sorry for Paris (as before I just didn't care). It sure seems her "celebrity" has gotten her more time for the crime, but who knows for sure with all the media distortion.
And as far as not staying at Hiltons because of Paris benefiting... this is business 101 people.
pinniped
Jun 9, 07, 8:36 am
Hampton Inns, which is Hilton's lowest-end brand, is roughly on par with Wingate Inns, which is Cendant's highest-end brand. The lower-end Cendant brands, including Days Inn, Ramada, Knights Inn, Travelodge, Super 8, and Howard Johnson, have absolutely no analogue in the Hilton system.
Not to stray too far off-topic, but it seems amazing and somewhat redundant that the same franchisor has 6 different hotel brands, all of which provide the same low-grade lodging and have no distinct brand identity other than being cheap.
Ooohhh...I'll go off-topic with you there... I mean, it's a Paris Hilton thread. Anything I can do to help this thread become more interesting.
Do people really differentiate between these brands? I mean, do people really think "I'm a Days Inn guy...I try not to associate with those lowbrow Travelodge people."
Over on the Slickdeals board, there is a thread that has developed into its own little subforum - how to play the Triprewards Guarantee to score free rooms at the above brands. OK, so these people get free hotels rooms. But then they actually have to stay at a Knights Inn or whatever. :eek: Uhhhh....no thanks...I'll go Mr. Moneybags here and pay my $70 for the Hampton Inn (assuming I'm roadtripping to a place where these brands exist).
I don't get it. It seems like they would be better off blowing up 75% of those brands and focus on about 2 - a Baymont-type brand that roughly competes in the Hampton category and a Travelodge-type brand that covers the barebones roadside motel category.
I know there's some history with the Ramada and HoJo brands - I guess at one point in history they featured nice hotels. Side trivia: I seem to recall using Marriott Marquis(?) points to stay at a Ramada Inn outside of San Francisco in the early years of hotel rewards programs. For its era, it was an okay hotel - probably 2.5 stars by today's standards.
Fredd
Jun 9, 07, 8:44 am
I know there's some history with the Ramada and HoJo brands - I guess at one point in history they featured nice hotels.
After an ugly stay at one in MIA some years back, I've made a personal vow never again to patronize a motel with "Ho" in its name.
JDiver
Jun 9, 07, 9:39 am
If they still had the Doubletree Club Miami they could have sentenced her to that - but IMO the CEO would be better. Fortunately, that dungheap has been demolished.
As to Paris, you'd think there was no other news in the world - but then, that's the media. But, I do some work with law enforcement, so here's the deal: most in Paris Hilton's situation get 10% of the sentence in time served - for 15 days, the average is about 2.7 days, so she was actually treated like anyone else (for once in her life.) L A Sheriff Lee Bacca has stated that as well, and made a statement she had some medically related problems. It would appear the judge has undermined the Sheriff's authority in this instance, and Paris Hilton is now in a secure medical facility undergoing evaluation (whilst her attorneys are trying to figure how to get her back home, and on a weekend at that.)
How does any of this affect my choice of Hilton family properties, (or my personal life for that mater?) Not one whit, because she is as important to me as a flyspeck on the glass of the Hilton San Francisco Executive Lounge - when I am in Tokyo at the Conrad, even as it appears the media could not exist without her. :rolleyes: :p
LH738
Jun 10, 07, 10:45 am
Don't scare me. I'm staying at the Paris Hilton next month. Glad you're only talking about the *other* Paris Hilton.
Bobi
Fingers crossed that you'll receive an upgrade at Hilton Paris as Paris Hilton hasn't scored one now.
DCBob
Jun 10, 07, 1:16 pm
Does anyone else find the Hilton family so vile that they are tempted to stop staying at Hiltons?
No, but I find several in the Marriott family vile enough to stop staying at Marriotts. But I wouldn't do that because that would be silly, not to mention beyond idiotic: making a business decision based on the personal behavior or beliefs of a minor stockholder. On a side note, I find it interesting that Paris Hilton stayed at the Sheraton on the Park instead of the Hilton Sydney on her last trip to Australia in 2006. I guess she does have taste after all. :p
Rambuster
Jun 10, 07, 1:52 pm
Who is Paris Hilton ?
JDiver
Jun 10, 07, 2:15 pm
Someone presently confined to the Awful Tower, I believe...
Who is Paris Hilton ?
Rambuster
Jun 10, 07, 3:03 pm
The bar staff at the Hilton DUS recently told me that after Paris' stay there her suite was "totally trashed". All the staff on duty had a peek after she left. Smashed up furniture everywhere. She also seems to have been quite a "difficult" guest.... I wonder if they asked her to return back soon when she left ? ;)
derpelikan
Jun 10, 07, 8:59 pm
No, but I find several in the Marriott family vile enough to stop staying at Marriotts. But I wouldn't do that because that would be silly, not to mention beyond idiotic: making a business decision based on the personal behavior or beliefs of a minor stockholder. On a side note, I find it interesting that Paris Hilton stayed at the Sheraton on the Park instead of the Hilton Sydney on her last trip to Australia in 2006. I guess she does have taste after all. :p
maybe she is working on her platinum status with starwood so she can enjoy a suite from time to time :p
ITravelForWork
Jun 10, 07, 9:06 pm
I've spoken to many Hilton Family GMs that loathe when Ms. Paris comes to their properties. There are many other (primarily at franchised properties) that have told me they will refuse accomodate her if she ever shows up on their doorsteps. They all stated that they rather deal with any backlash from the decision than deal with her.
As an aside, how many here think Conrad is rolling over in his grave at seeing how the Hilton name is being "tarnished"????
freeupgrade
Jun 11, 07, 6:38 am
I've spoken to many Hilton Family GMs that loathe when Ms. Paris comes to their properties. There are many other (primarily at franchised properties) that have told me they will refuse accomodate her if she ever shows up on their doorsteps. They all stated that they rather deal with any backlash from the decision than deal with her.
As an aside, how many here think Conrad is rolling over in his grave at seeing how the Hilton name is being "tarnished"????
May he rest in peace, I was thinking the same thing - Conrad HIlton must literally be tossing in his grave.
Paris and her mother are nothing but a disgrace to the family name.
jragosta
Jun 11, 07, 8:40 am
I've spoken to many Hilton Family GMs that loathe when Ms. Paris comes to their properties. There are many other (primarily at franchised properties) that have told me they will refuse accomodate her if she ever shows up on their doorsteps. They all stated that they rather deal with any backlash from the decision than deal with her.
Sorry, but I find this very, very hard to believe.
uva185
Jun 11, 07, 12:37 pm
Over on the Slickdeals board, there is a thread that has developed into its own little subforum - how to play the Triprewards Guarantee to score free rooms at the above brands. OK, so these people get free hotels rooms. But then they actually have to stay at a Knights Inn or whatever. :eek: Uhhhh....no thanks...I'll go Mr. Moneybags here and pay my $70 for the Hampton Inn (assuming I'm roadtripping to a place where these brands exist).
What I don't get is if you really want a free night that bad just stay at a Hampton Inn and complain that you were not satisfied and get your stay comped. I have never done this but they push that satisfaction gaurenteed so much I would think it would be pretty easy.
jragosta
Jun 11, 07, 12:51 pm
What I don't get is if you really want a free night that bad just stay at a Hampton Inn and complain that you were not satisfied and get your stay comped. I have never done this but they push that satisfaction gaurenteed so much I would think it would be pretty easy.
Assuming that you have no morals, this might work - until they flag your record and no longer accept your reservations, that is.
I applaud the grandfather's move. It could not have happened to a nicer girl.
MIKESILV
Jul 30, 07, 7:59 am
I really dont care one way or the other. But pray tell what is the relevance of posting this here? :rolleyes:
mike
fromYXU
Jul 30, 07, 8:03 am
OMNI?
Who cares? Not relevant to HH.
TTT103
Jul 30, 07, 8:11 am
Lighten up!
If you read the article, you will note that Hilton is not leaving any money to his family. He is donating all of it to his charity after the Blackstone deal closes. Although not relevant HHonors, it is nonetheless an interesting Hilton tidbit.
atxtraveler
Jul 30, 07, 8:18 am
I guess she will just have to make another video to get that 60M back.
jwlowry
Sep 12, 07, 8:56 pm
I arrived at a Hilton property a few months back, and it was bustling with staff cleaning carpet, painting walls, polishing brass, dusting light fixtures, etc. I asked what was up as I got my key, and my front desk friend said she had no idea. However, I was asked twice if I would care for a different room. :confused:
When I arrived in my usual exec floor room, there was a very unusual (and large) fruit basket and bottle of wine waiting for me. :D ^ Along with these unexpected amenities, there was a very cryptic note asking that, if there was anything, anything at all, that the staff could do to make my stay more comfortable to please let the GM know. Personally. The letter when on to practically beg us to contact the GM, if there was any problem, before contacting the corporate offices and also offered me yet again the opportunity to change rooms. :confused: :confused:
As it turned out, everyone that was staying on the top three floors of the hotel on a particular night that week were offered these amenities. The reason? Paris was scheduled to stay in one of the top floor suites on that night, and the management was terrified that she was going to honk off their regulars with her antics.
Interestingly, I don't think she showed up at all that week (if she did, I didn't see or hear her). Something about a run-in with the law in LA. :D
JDiver
Sep 12, 07, 9:05 pm
She did have a rather captive audience, didn't she? ;)
Interesting experience! OTOH, you benefited without having to take the lashes (having her in the connecting room next door would be a PITA!)
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Interestingly, I don't think she showed up at all that week (if she did, I didn't see or hear her). Something about a run-in with the law in LA. :D