Practical Travel Safety Issues - AG Gonzales: US to study UK anti-terror laws




exerda
Aug 15, 06, 2:52 pm
As if they hadn't trampled upon the Constitution enough already with warrentless wiretaps, etc.:WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 — Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales on Monday ordered a side-by-side review of American and British counterterrorism laws as a first step toward determining whether further changes in American law are warranted.

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Newly revised British counterterrorism laws, for instance, allow the authorities to hold a suspect for 28 days without charges, where American law generally requires that a suspect held in the civilian court system be charged or released within 48 hours.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in appearances on the Sunday morning news programs that he thought bringing American laws more closely into line with Britain’s, particularly regarding the detention of terror suspects without charges, could help deter threats at home.NY Times Story (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/washington/15detain.html?_r=1&oref=login)

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wierdo
Aug 15, 06, 2:57 pm
:rolleyes:

It'll be a cold day in hell before Gonzales has anything to do with making our country safer for anything but fascists.

FliesWay2Much
Aug 15, 06, 3:01 pm
At the risk of sending this into OMNI-land, I would like to note that I seem to recall that a certain 2004 presidential candidate was roundly criticized and ridiculed for stating that he would study laws of other countries for applicability here (don't quite remember the context but it was something like that).

I further recall that it was prominent members of the party to which the Hon. Mr. Gonzales belongs who did the criticizing.

... and we wonder why only 40% of us vote?


GUWonder
Aug 15, 06, 3:08 pm
No surprise. Nothing like a few months before elections, as long as there is an opportune excuse to roll it out and get Congresspersons to either vote for it or get voted out for being "weak on security".

Superguy
Aug 15, 06, 3:42 pm
So what's next? China's laws banning criticism of the government? North Korea's laws not supporting and loving Dear Leader?

I'm sure we can take laws from the "safest" regimes in the world and apply them at home! :rolleyes: :mad: :td:

bnarayan1511
Aug 15, 06, 3:44 pm
So what's next? China's laws banning criticism of the government? North Korea's laws not supporting and loving Dear Leader?

I'm sure we can take laws from the "safest" regimes in the world and apply them at home! :rolleyes: :mad: :td:

Wonder if we can go down this slope far enough that someday, someone will have to come "liberate" us? :mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

ziobacio
Aug 15, 06, 3:59 pm
This may be headed for Omni-ville, but...

What really strikes me about all this is that it most certainly is *not* partisan, or at least should not be. No one, from Libertarians on the right to Socialists on the left, should happily or willingly accept the destruction of the rule of law. When dissent is labeled as treason, when objections are considered aiding the enemy, when all the executive branch agencies can act without oversight by Congress or the courts, we are all in big trouble.

Yaatri
Aug 15, 06, 4:03 pm
As if they hadn't trampled upon the Constitution enough already with warrentless wiretaps, etc.:NY Times Story (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/washington/15detain.html?_r=1&oref=login)

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Right on. Gonzales can teach the British a thing or too or a dozen in how to trample upon civil rights.

Flaflyer
Aug 15, 06, 4:11 pm
"Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in appearances on the Sunday morning news programs that he thought bringing American laws more closely into line with Britain’s,"


George, really sorry bout that wasted winter at Valley Forge. Seems like you and your friends wasted your time with that little war and constitution and BILL OF RIGHTS. Unwanted in hindsight. Waste of paper.

Seems like 216 years later the children would be safer if we had just left ourself under the Crowns rule.

Sorry Tom J. Sorry Ben F. Our new leaders say the British Laws are better. We stole this place from King George III, perhaps our King George I wants to give it back. :mad:

Superguy
Aug 15, 06, 7:18 pm
As if they hadn't trampled upon the Constitution enough already with warrentless wiretaps,

Here's something Bush would love:

Constitution Toilet Paper (http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i9885)



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