My most humblest apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere. I did a search and found nothing.
Has anyone encountered problems with the 1,500/2,000 bonus points at selected properties posting to your account? I had two recent Hyatt stays in the Chicago area and, in neither case, did the 2.000 bonus points post without a call to Hyatt. That means I'm 0-for-2. Note, I waited two weekss before calling.
Hyatt quickly added the bonus points. They told me that it is the responsibilty of someone at the property to note/request these bonus points and that sometimes they are busy and forget.
First, it is open to every GP member and doesn't require registration (unlike UA 1,500 miles, which, BTW, posted w/o problem). So why does it rely upon property input? Second, since when is the fact that a property is too busy an excuse?
The latter points are just me ranting, but has anyone had posting issues?
TravelGuy1965
Jul 24, 06, 5:57 pm
Often times they don't post. There are threads on this and the general advice is to ensure they are listed on your receipt at checkout. If they are they should post.
Pushing this with Hyatt might do more harm than good.
For instance; what if you forgot to sign-up for a promo at reservation? If Hyatt fixed thier systems and cracked down then you might not have a way to get these. As it is today Hyatt happily adds promotion points when you call them. Given this, I'm quite pleased with the status quo.
My most humblest apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere. I did a search and found nothing.
Has anyone encountered problems with the 1,500/2,000 bonus points at selected properties posting to your account? I had two recent Hyatt stays in the Chicago area and, in neither case, did the 2.000 bonus points post without a call to Hyatt. That means I'm 0-for-2. Note, I waited two weekss before calling.
Hyatt quickly added the bonus points. They told me that it is the responsibilty of someone at the property to note/request these bonus points and that sometimes they are busy and forget.
First, it is open to every GP member and doesn't require registration (unlike UA 1,500 miles, which, BTW, posted w/o problem). So why does it rely upon property input? Second, since when is the fact that a property is too busy an excuse?
The latter points are just me ranting, but has anyone had posting issues?
Bondiboy
Jul 24, 06, 6:21 pm
First, it is open to every GP member and doesn't require registration (unlike UA 1,500 miles, which, BTW, posted w/o problem). So why does it rely upon property input? Second, since when is the fact that a property is too busy an excuse?
In THEORY, the bonus points should be requested at the same time as your reservation and if you do this, then the bonus will appear on your written confirmation.
These bonuses are not well understood by the average fron desk staffer, so it is best that you confirm them at the time of check-in and check-out.
As previously said, don't make a fuss with Hyatt or they may decide to enforce the "rules"
I think that Hyatt's view is that the objective of a PROMOTION is to cause you stay at a given property. Hyatt tend to be on the relaxed side in insisting that you "pre-register"
mmgm
Jul 24, 06, 6:47 pm
Many properties slide an updated bill under the door the morning of checkout. If you don't see the bonus listed in the bonus section you can call the front desk and ask them to add the bonus. Then you can still use the TV checkout if you want.
peteropny
Jul 24, 06, 6:57 pm
I usually try to remind the front desk to input the bonus codes (G1,G2 etc) at check-in and verify that its in the Bonus section on the uppper right portion of the folio and if it doesn't show up remind them again at check-out.
kevino
Jul 24, 06, 8:44 pm
"First, it is open to every GP member and doesn't require registration (unlike UA 1,500 miles, which, BTW, posted w/o problem). So why does it rely upon property input?"
The large majority of guests don't know about the bonuses. So, Hyatt saves a lot of points and money by not doing it automatically. Ask any desk clerk who has been around 5-10 years what percent of guests ask for a particular G1, G2, or G3 bonus and the answers you get will vary from 5% to 40%. A lot of guests don't even have a Gold passport account! And during Faster Free Night promos, a lot of guests don't pay with a MasterCard.
gregorygrady
Jul 24, 06, 10:16 pm
And during Faster Free Night promos, a lot of guests don't pay with a MasterCard.
:eek: Ahhhhhh, say it ain't so!!!! You're killing me here!!!!
TravelGuy1965
Jul 25, 06, 12:11 am
If it was all automatic it may not be as effective from an ROI perspective. As you eluded, it does cost money. Indirect or directly. The purpose of promotions is to increase return for the company. Same as marketing.
So as a business why sign every one up? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Its like coupons. Those who value the saving will take advatage of it and if its significant enough will result in thier business. Perhaps even longer term.
But for those who don't think its worth the time to cut the coupons, or stay on top of promotions, they may just buy or stay due to the value in the product itself.
By leaving it in the current manner it enables those who value the points with more than they would likely get if everyone received them automatically.
So it works well with me in the current system.
"First, it is open to every GP member and doesn't require registration (unlike UA 1,500 miles, which, BTW, posted w/o problem). So why does it rely upon property input?"
The large majority of guests don't know about the bonuses. So, Hyatt saves a lot of points and money by not doing it automatically. Ask any desk clerk who has been around 5-10 years what percent of guests ask for a particular G1, G2, or G3 bonus and the answers you get will vary from 5% to 40%. A lot of guests don't even have a Gold passport account! And during Faster Free Night promos, a lot of guests don't pay with a MasterCard.
wth
Jul 25, 06, 6:22 pm
First of all, thanks to all for the replies. However, either I seem to be missing something or I look at this differently than most of you do.
For perspective, I am relatively new to GP (four stays since 3/06), but have been HH Diamond and SPG Platinum for several years, so I'm not new to hotel programs. And, as a Marketing professional, I understand that hotel programs factor promotional cost/returns on a projected "slippage" factor.
First, I appreciate that Hyatt does not seem to require registration for most promotions. While I understand why programs do this, it still cheeses me. having said that, I expect that if I check in with an active GP account, I expect the promotional bonus to be awarded automatically. I don't feel I should have to note G1/2/3 at time of reservation, check-in or check out.
Second, there have been a couple of references to scanning the bill for bonuses. I have reviewed both of my invoices and do not see any section that specifically states points earned let alone bonuses. All I see is a line that states "Your account (GP number) will be credited for all eligible charges.". In one case, the receipt did not even list my acct. #, but base points were awarded in a timely manner. Am I missing something here?
Finally, there were several comments that suggested that "pushing this with Hyatt would do more harm than good", or "don't make a fuss with Hyatt or they may decide to enforce the rules", or that people are happy with the status quo. I'm unclear here. I fail to see anything in the GP Bonus Points T&C that require me to do anything other than provide my GP #, request GP points and pay a "qualified rate" as defined. The underlying suggestion is that I may rock the boat. How? Again, what am I missing here?
The one thing that seems abundantly clear to me re. Hyatt's GP program. thus far, is that the only way to earn enough points for meaningful redemption is to spend an inordinate number of nights at Hyatt and/or maximize the promotional bonus points.
kevino
Jul 25, 06, 6:53 pm
Most Hyatt receipts (especially in the U.S.) have a bonus category in the upper right above your account number. Your G1, G2, or G3 bonus and 1W (Diamond amenity) needs to show there for it to post to your account without having to call Gold Passport.
You can also earn 1k points per $100 currently by buying Hyatt gift cards.
wth
Jul 30, 06, 9:39 am
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Finally, there were several comments that suggested that "pushing this with Hyatt would do more harm than good", or "don't make a fuss with Hyatt or they may decide to enforce the rules", or that people are happy with the status quo. I'm unclear here. I fail to see anything in the GP Bonus Points T&C that require me to do anything other than provide my GP #, request GP points and pay a "qualified rate" as defined. The underlying suggestion is that I may rock the boat. How? Again, what am I missing here?
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Thanks on the bonus section info on the invoice; I now see it. Overlooked it because it is separate from GP credit refernce and the acct. below was my credit card acct. not my GP acct.
I'm still waiting to understand the above, quoted part. I am following the rules and Hyatt is not crediting me. Again, what is the risk of raising this with Hyatt. Because I can assure you that, if it happens again, I will complain vigourously and seek point compensation for my having to follow up. Basically, Im doing what is asked of me. Hyatt is the one dropping the ball here.
Brendan
Jul 30, 06, 10:33 am
Wth, the official Hyatt T&Cs say that one must request the promo code before or during the stay, but Hyatt CS has not enforced this. The reps will add the bonuses retroactively when we call to say that we forgot. TG1965 & Bondiboy are concerned that they may start making us prove that we did request certain bonuses properly in the first place.
OTOH, if a certain bonus is supposed 2B automatic for everyone, I, like U, see no risk in being more assertive.
wth
Aug 2, 06, 6:07 pm
Wth, the official Hyatt T&Cs say that one must request the promo code before or during the stay, but Hyatt CS has not enforced this. The reps will add the bonuses retroactively when we call to say that we forgot. TG1965 & Bondiboy are concerned that they may start making us prove that we did request certain bonuses properly in the first place.
OTOH, if a certain bonus is supposed 2B automatic for everyone, I, like U, see no risk in being more assertive.
I appreciate your response and your POV given how you understand the T&C. And, I would agree except....... I read (and just reread) the T&C for the bonus promotions (copied below) and see nothing that even remotely suggests that I need to request the promotion code. Am I still missing something?
Gold Passport Bonus Points
Guest must choose Gold Passport points for their stay and pay an eligible rate. Only one bonus may be redeemed per member, per room, per stay. Please allow 6-8 weeks after stay for bonus points to be credited to account. Offer is subject to the normal Terms and Conditions of the Gold Passport program.
azepine00
Aug 2, 06, 6:26 pm
When you click on "book" link from GP offers page the appropriate code will be automatically entered.
I treat this as an "offer" (as in Hyatt offers bonus and you can accept by clicking the link or by requesting it in person or you can refuse it). :)
Seriously, there is no need to force bonuses on guests :D